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IGT for Sunday, 8/28. Mets at Giants

OlerudOwned Aug 28 2005 03:36 PM

Boring day for me, so I'll throw this out here now New York Mets 1. Jose Reyes, SS 2. Miguel Cairo, 1B 3. Carlos Beltran, CF 4. David Wright, 3B 5. Chris Woodward, LF 6. Victor Diaz, RF 7. Ramon Castro, C 8. Kazuo Matsui, 2B 9. Kris Benson, P =orange]San Francisco Giants 1. Randy Winn, CF 2. Omar Vizquel, SS 3. J.T. Snow, 1B 4. Moises Alou, LF 5. Ray Durham, 2B 6. Pedro Feliz, 3B 7. Todd Linden, RF 8. Mike Matheny, C 9. Noah Lowry, P Some notes: -Kris Benson was bombed in his last outing, allowing 6 runs while only retiring 2 batters vs. Washington -Lowry, on the other hand, "has won his last four starts, allowing just two runs in 31 1/3 innings". (To quote ESPN.com) -Giants traded bench OF Michael Tucker to Philly for a minor leauger.

Diamond Dad Aug 28 2005 03:38 PM

Woodward and Kaz? Interesting combo

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 03:40 PM

What's this I hear about us being undefeated recently when Kase starts the IGT? I'm getting fun goofy mic-checks from the internet feed.

TheOldMole Aug 28 2005 03:42 PM

That's really the starting lineup?

KC Aug 28 2005 03:44 PM

Earth to Willie, we're in a wild-card race.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 03:49 PM

Anybody who can tune into mlb.tv, do. They're getting goofy.

Frayed Knot Aug 28 2005 03:50 PM

Looks like all the leftys are getting the day off vs Lowry ... so much for Cliffy's vow to play all the remaining games in the season (well, I guess he didn't claim that he'd start all of them).

Diamond Dad Aug 28 2005 03:54 PM Piazza

Ed Coleman says Piazza will not be coming off the DL on Thursday, when he is eligible

KC Aug 28 2005 04:02 PM

>>>(well, I guess he didn't claim that he'd start all of them)<<< I was really hoping for some bang-pow into McCovey Cove. Maybe in a pinch hitting role later in the evening.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 04:03 PM

Clueless Clown report continues. I've heard them pre-record about three seperate attempted intros. Seaver sounds like he's been partaking. O'Brien is singing and doing Vin Scully imitations.

OlerudOwned Aug 28 2005 04:10 PM

Reyes hurt, Reyes hurt, dammmmit

KC Aug 28 2005 04:13 PM

Easy OO, let's see if he comes out to play dee.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 04:22 PM

He looks comfortable enough on D to suggest he's not really hurt. Didn't make the play, however.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 28 2005 04:23 PM

Whew! Despite loading the bases, Benson gets out of the first inning unschathed.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 04:24 PM

KC wrote: Earth to Willie, we're in a wild-card race. ya know, i cant say I understand why managers today rest players at times i think they are needed most. Floyd may have been playin sluggish but he's one of our best producers. And baseball aint like basketball or football. Players can rejuvinate while on the field. I mean, how would you feel if you were Benson? One of the two cannons (Wright being the other)is on the shelf. Kool, we got out of that shaky 1st.

Bret Sabermetric Aug 28 2005 04:28 PM

Wright singles on a pitch low and away. You've got to wonder why anyone pitches him anywhere other than tight, the way he hits to RF.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 04:32 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote: Wright singles on a pitch low and away. You've got to wonder why anyone pitches him anywhere other than tight, the way he hits to RF. when he's hot he still fights off the tight pitch to right. I love watchin him hit. Diaz flys DEEEEEEP to right.

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 04:36 PM

Castro walks. This is a disgusting lineup. 'Course, you gots to rest your guys once in a while. It would help if Beltran could hit.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 04:39 PM

Elster88 wrote: Castro walks. This is a disgusting lineup. 'Course, you gots to rest your guys once in a while. It would help if Beltran could hit. Maybe thats Willies strategy. Floyd out does make Beltrans need to hit more urgent, and Beltran would know that.

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 04:45 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 28 2005 04:46 PM

I don't see the Mets scoring unless Wright hits one out or unless Reyes triples and scores on an out. Namely, the only ways that they scored yesterday or Friday. EDIT: I'm Fat Mo!! I'm hitting McDonald's tonight!!!!

Zvon Aug 28 2005 04:45 PM

Shit, and I just noticed Jacobs aint in. (now Im here 100%) Willie says going back to NY 6-1 would be huge, but he dont play his best hand......... How 'tired' can Jacobs be? I hope Woody or Cairo step up and shut me up and make me the fool for bitchin.

MFS62 Aug 28 2005 04:46 PM

Beltran has been playing like he doesn't even know what day it is. Maybe that concussion was worse than we thought. Later

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 04:47 PM

Kris Benson, warning track power. Maybe if his name wasn't Kristin he could hit one out. ______________________ This post was made under the posting designation 171) Mo Vaughn

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 04:50 PM

Cairo gets a "hit". _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 171)Mo Vaughn

Zvon Aug 28 2005 04:53 PM

Elster88 wrote: I don't see the Mets scoring unless Wright hits one out or unless Reyes triples and scores on an out. Namely, the only ways that they scored yesterday or Friday. EDIT: I'm Fat Mo!! I'm hitting McDonald's tonight!!!! Diaz could pop one. Beltran could become unzombiefied and launch one. That was an agressive swing by Beltran (the one he Kd on) Nice to see him tryin to catch up to a pitch instead of simply looking 'cool' while wiffin. Im Bethke. Guess its White Castle for me.....

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 04:55 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 28 2005 04:56 PM

Diaz charging a sinking liner does alright. Not a lost cause yet. Five pitch thoid for Benson.

Bret Sabermetric Aug 28 2005 04:56 PM

Diaz ran a pretty direct route to that last fly ball, no?

OlerudOwned Aug 28 2005 04:56 PM

Beltran whiffs. He was either a really big flash in a really big pan, or he has from that collision/

Nymr83 Aug 28 2005 04:59 PM

fuck, wright hurt his foot too. today's lineup is bullshit, bad job willie.

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 04:59 PM

Wright pops up and screams an expletive. _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 171) Mo Vaughn

OlerudOwned Aug 28 2005 05:01 PM

Vizquel cant handle a hot shot off Woody's bat, so Woodward has the Mets second hit

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 05:12 PM

Replay of the Bonds strikeout from 2000. Nice. _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 171) Mo Vaughn

Frayed Knot Aug 28 2005 05:15 PM

"today's lineup is bullshit, bad job willie" Jeez, is Willie allowed to rest any regulars? He's sitting one reg - or two if we've decided that a 5-day callup is now cast in stone, both of which are LHBs against a LHP. Other than that it's your standard cast of characters.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 28 2005 05:18 PM

="Elster88"] I'm Fat Mo!! I'm hitting McDonald's tonight!!!! Not the Carnegie Deli?

ScarletKnight41 Aug 28 2005 05:20 PM

Elster88 wrote: Wright pops up and screams an expletive. No he didn't! He doesn't know those kinds of words! (Is he ok?)

Zvon Aug 28 2005 05:23 PM

="Frayed Knot"]"today's lineup is bullshit, bad job willie" Jeez, is Willie allowed to rest any regulars? He's sitting one reg - or two if we've decided that a 5-day callup is now cast in stone, both of which are LHBs against a LHP. Other than that it's your standard cast of characters. point taken. And the last half of this next road swing we play teams that are tuff to beat. Gotta get that rest in somewhere. Its just that I hate when I detect a defeatest attitude, like Willies thinkin "well, Ill take a 5-2 trip and its all i could have asked, so Ill rest em now and see if the backups can get me that 6th for a 6-1 that would be really alot to expect". I think on this road trip we go for the throat cuz we can get rollin off that for awhile. But there will be tuffer dayz ahead, this i know.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 05:25 PM

they had that lead runner hung out to dry! well, we got one. That guy on 2nd better not score

ScarletKnight41 Aug 28 2005 05:25 PM

Especially since tomorrow's an off day. Let them rest on the cross country plane ride if they need rest. OE - Responding to Werewolf's point about going for the jugular TODAY!!!!

Zvon Aug 28 2005 05:26 PM

NICE CATCH BELTRAN. save a run and Matsuis honor (with me)

Nymr83 Aug 28 2005 05:26 PM

tommorow is an offday, why rest a starter today? wtf was that matsucki?? tag the lead runner! nice catch by beltran to stop boneheaded infield defense from costing us a run.

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 05:26 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 28 2005 05:27 PM

Good thing Beltran wasn't positioned on the warning track like he usually is. Nice diving catch on a half bloop-half line drive. And wouldn't you know it, he's leading off the next inning. _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 171) Mo Vaughn

Frayed Knot Aug 28 2005 05:27 PM

Heads-up play by Benson ... gets followed by a dumb (heads-down?) play by Matsui ... gets bailed out by a nice play by Beltran.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 05:28 PM

and Carlos leads off with a double. I like :D

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 05:29 PM

Alou looked pretty terrible on that, running back to the track. It lands for a double. Apparently, Alou is all beat up. _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 171) Mo Vaughn

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 05:29 PM

That was a ducky louble. Alou seemed to pull up.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 05:30 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: Heads-up play by Benson ... gets followed by a dumb (heads-down?) play by Matsui ... gets bailed out by a nice play by Beltran. ........and thats baseball,buddy. lol

Frayed Knot Aug 28 2005 05:30 PM

Alou hasn't been a good fielder since the first time we had a George Bush as President.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 05:31 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 28 2005 05:32 PM

Edgy DC wrote: That was a ducky louble. Alou seemed to pull up. he seemed to be running everywhere cept right to the ball. good 4 us. Wright moves beltran over. heads up running by Carlos.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 05:32 PM

]like Willies thinkin "well, Ill take a 5-2 trip and its all i could have asked, so Ill rest em now and see if the backups can get me that 6th for a 6-1 that would be really alot to expect" Pregame reports have Willie saying, for what it's worth, the exact opposite.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 05:34 PM

Edgy DC wrote: ]like Willies thinkin "well, Ill take a 5-2 trip and its all i could have asked, so Ill rest em now and see if the backups can get me that 6th for a 6-1 that would be really alot to expect" Pregame reports have Willie saying, for what it's worth, the exact opposite. i heard that. thats why im confused. What he says and what hes thinkin, id like them to sync up.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 05:35 PM

that low inside curve lowrys throwin is a bitch. We need someone to rip that down the 3rd base line.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 05:37 PM

Woodie is staying alive, but fouling off a lot of balls.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 05:37 PM

YES hahahahahaha and thats baseball too. how bout that.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 05:37 PM

Wow! What a way to go ahead.

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 05:38 PM

Elster88 wrote: I don't see the Mets scoring unless Wright hits one out or unless Reyes triples and scores on an out. Namely, the only ways that they scored yesterday or Friday. I guess a strikeout with a passed ball is a possibility. I guess I'll take the run, but that's embarrassing. _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 171) Mo Vaughn

OlerudOwned Aug 28 2005 05:38 PM

Woodward hacks at a ball in the dirt for strike three. Except the ball bounced into the stands, Woody to first, Beltran scores, and we have the first lead of the game. 1-0

Zvon Aug 28 2005 05:38 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Woodie is staying alive, but fouling off a lot of balls. yep. he gets points just 4 that atbat. makin him throw 11 pitches and put too much stuff on that last one that went wild. So Woody does make a difference. 1-0 Mets. Diaz keeps it goin with a single.

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 05:39 PM

Zvon wrote: thats why im confused. What he says and what hes thinkin, id like them to sync up. I think it's pretty simple. He wants to win, but he has to rest his players, as someone said above.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 05:39 PM

Diaz has been battling Lowry away all day. Good job.

Frayed Knot Aug 28 2005 05:39 PM

"Let them rest on the cross country plane ride if they need rest. " And we all know how relaxing cross-country travel can be! Point is, that unless and until this whole thing all falls apart on us, we could look at any game from here on out and say that it's not the time to rest a regular. It's our main lefty bat sitting against a tough lefty and takes advantage of the off-day to get the double day-off (ye olde Bobby V. strategy) and gear up for the stretch run. It all reminds me about the complaints at Benitez picking the wrong day to blow saves. In all that time I never heard what the criteria were for a good time to blow one.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 05:41 PM

Elster88 wrote: I guess I'll take the run, but that's embarrassing. actually thats the kinda play that makes for a legendary type of baseball tale. Dont be embarrassed. It was the giants who screwed up. hehe

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 05:41 PM

I typed passed ball but, for posterity, it was a wild pitch. _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 171) Mo Vaughn

OlerudOwned Aug 28 2005 05:45 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: It's our main lefty bat sitting against a tough lefty and takes advantage of the off-day to get the double day-off (ye olde Bobby V. strategy) and gear up for the stretch run. Hey, if it means Cliff is rested+ for the series with Philly, I'll take it.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 05:46 PM

For more posterity, Matsui was robbed of a single, perhaps by Diaz not getting down to second quickly as much as by a nice play by Vizquel.

Nymr83 Aug 28 2005 05:48 PM

]It all reminds me about the complaints at Benitez picking the wrong day to blow saves. In all that time I never heard what the criteria were for a good time to blow one. against milwaukee in may is ok. against the braves twice in a week in september or against the yankees in the world series is not ok. Diaz didn't hustle to 2B last inning. Snow just tied it. 4th homer of the year geez.

Bret Sabermetric Aug 28 2005 05:49 PM

The guy in the J.T.Snow jersey ties it up at 1.

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 05:50 PM

Zvon wrote: ="Elster88"] I guess I'll take the run, but that's embarrassing. actually thats the kinda play that makes for a legendary type of baseball tale. Dont be embarrassed. It was the giants who screwed up. hehe I know all that. It's just pathetic how we scored. Beltran's double should've been caught, and he scores on a strikeout. Ugly. _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 171) Mo Vaughn

Zvon Aug 28 2005 05:55 PM

="Frayed Knot"]"Let them rest on the cross country plane ride if they need rest. " And we all know how relaxing cross-country travel can be! Point is, that unless and until this whole thing all falls apart on us, we could look at any game from here on out and say that it's not the time to rest a regular. It's our main lefty bat sitting against a tough lefty and takes advantage of the off-day to get the double day-off (ye olde Bobby V. strategy) and gear up for the stretch run. It all reminds me about the complaints at Benitez picking the wrong day to blow saves. In all that time I never heard what the criteria were for a good time to blow one. Very well put. Im sold on Floyds off day. And i guess the lefty aspect applies to Jacobs. But please dont remind me of benetez and his trials and tribs. Sometimes I look back on those days , dealing with Looper now, and wonder which of the 2 has blown bigger should win games. I never felt as down on benetez as i do on Loop. And id ride benetez pretty bad.Cuz Loop just seems so one demensional. CRAP! JT Shnot smacks one out and ties it. Dagnabbitt. SHIT! another giant 4 bagger!, and we are down 3-1. Woodward deeked me out there. I thought it was playable. Cripes, things can turn just like that.

Frayed Knot Aug 28 2005 05:56 PM

"against milwaukee in may is ok" No it wasn't (not according to fans at the time) but that's a whole seperate can o' worms for another day. Not that he was going to catch it anyway - but Woodward def lost that ball, probably in the sun.

TheOldMole Aug 28 2005 06:01 PM

Benson gone, and not happy.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 06:18 PM

nice throw by Diaz, but a tad late. 4-1. bell dont keep em in check. We did have that guy picked off, and I could sense the team deflating when it went against em. Like how the bench wasnt screamin runnergoin! to castro on that steal. Everyone just stopped dong their part for a minute there.

OlerudOwned Aug 28 2005 06:19 PM

In more exciting baseball news, Hawaii comes back in the bottom of the 6th to tie the LLWS at 6-6. Game going to extras.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 06:19 PM

Today would be a really nice day for a blown save by Armando Benitez.

Bret Sabermetric Aug 28 2005 06:20 PM

Winn looks like a ballplayer, except for that lame stance.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 06:23 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Today would be a really nice day for a blown save by Armando Benitez. lmao hellzyea it would be.

OlerudOwned Aug 28 2005 06:26 PM

Hawaii's catcher hits a walk off home run to lead off the bottom of the 7th inning. Your LLWS Champs.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 06:28 PM

="OlerudOwned"]In more exciting baseball news, Hawaii comes back in the bottom of the 6th to tie the LLWS at 6-6. Game going to extras. I know this probly aint approriet here but this is that catch i was talkin about the other night. pretty awsum. Lottsa great plays in those games.

KC Aug 28 2005 06:29 PM

I mean really, can Beltran be any more mediocre? This isn't the time or the place, but I'm starting to get a little impatient and worried about the next six years.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 06:35 PM

KC wrote: I mean really, can Beltran be any more mediocre? This isn't the time or the place, but I'm starting to get a little impatient and worried about the next six years. Im the opposite. i think he'll pan out over 6 yrs. i just think his transitional period should end now, this series and he should show his ability. He looks like he's doin everything a lil more slowly and diliberatly. Like hes makin sure he stays within himself. And thats fine, but time for him to pull his head out of that turtle shell and look around.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 06:37 PM

Castro shouldn't be batting.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 06:40 PM

of course, benitez looks untouchable, layin it right on that outside black of the plate. You think the Mets shocked themselves flat after that offensive explosion vs the Dbacks? I would think theyd be all animated but the last few they looked, or seemed, so flat. Kaz keeps it alive..................

Zvon Aug 28 2005 06:42 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Castro shouldn't be batting. and Anderson shouldnt even joke by showin bunt.

KC Aug 28 2005 06:44 PM

>>>Im the opposite. i think he'll pan out over 6 yrs. i just think his transitional period should end now, this series and he should show his ability.<<< So this is the end to the mediocrity? He's got my digestion tract all messed up. And if anyone posts that he had a double who wasn't actually watching ... watch out. Anyway it's over, Mets lose the last two.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 06:45 PM

Really, going all righthanded against the lefty gave them four pinch hitters available from the left side. It made no sense to let Castro bat. I've got no problem with showing bunt or actually bunting.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 06:48 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 28 2005 06:49 PM

ahhhhhhhhhh. he tried to adjust to that off speed but popped it. Great pitch choice there by Benitez, the bastard. i hear ya about castro. Its what i mean by defeatest when we dont see Floyd or Jacobs in that spot PH'n. Why not play the % there? Cuz you feel like 5-2 is good nuff? okay, ill shutup. Well, big series vs the phils, and its time to focus on that.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 06:48 PM

These guys are bitching and soft-core cussing about JT Snow and the Giants media guy. O'Brien doing mock opera.

Elster88 Aug 28 2005 06:54 PM

Zvon wrote: ="KC"]I mean really, can Beltran be any more mediocre? This isn't the time or the place, but I'm starting to get a little impatient and worried about the next six years. Im the opposite. i think he'll pan out over 6 yrs. i just think his transitional period should end now, this series and he should show his ability. He looks like he's doin everything a lil more slowly and diliberatly. Like hes makin sure he stays within himself. And thats fine, but time for him to pull his head out of that turtle shell and look around. I'm half and half. Maybe he is showing his true ability. He is a career .280 hitter or something right?

Zvon Aug 28 2005 07:01 PM

Elster88 wrote: I'm half and half. Maybe he is showing his true ability. He is a career .280 hitter or something right? ....bite Elster's (or your) tongue. The guy has the tools, and he will have AllStar years as a Met. We should see 30 hr 90+ rbi seasons ahead. That coupled with .280 is fine with me. Ill give him this year for adjustment, and then next year i may have to join you if he dont show what we decided he was worth.

Zvon Aug 28 2005 07:03 PM

well, Ill take the 5-2 trip and the lil winning streak (5 games is just waht i wished for) and say we have a good start and alotta work ahead of us. Chin up my bruddas. We have games that count in August, and it doesnt get any better than this. (well, course it does but that sounded good there,lol)

Rotblatt Aug 28 2005 09:03 PM

I missed the whole game, but what I don't get about the lineup is why Floyd instead of Beltran. I mean, Beltran has broken bones in his face and is coming off a concussion, and without looking at their numbers, I can pretty much guarantee that Floyd is hitting lefties better than Beltran this season. Now, I realize that means we have Williams in the lineup but the difference between Williams & Beltran is smaller than that of Floyd & Woody. And what the fuck is up with Cairo at first base? I'd rather see what Jacobs can do than run a slumping Cairo out there again. argh. At least Benson was okay today.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2005 09:32 PM

Floyd because Floyd's been playing a lot and because there's a lefty going who is presumably tough on lefties. But Cairo at first, yeah, I've been baying all year about too many middle infielders on the bench and covering at corner spots. Gmme Offerman at least.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 28 2005 10:28 PM

This game jumped the shark when Reyes tried bunting with a man on second and one out, and Cairo on deck. WTF? This reminded me of a typical Met loss of earlier this year when such wussy-ass plays cost us games. I suppose I was wrong about Benson's health. His shoulder looked great pounding the batrack and slamming down his helmet. I think we could have used Piazza in these last 4 games.

Zvon Aug 29 2005 04:08 AM

this pic wraps up the SF series: