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Frayed Knot Aug 30 2008 04:28 PM

Gettin' lefty with it Reyes Castillo Wright Delgado Beltran Church Murphy Schneider Pelfrey State of the pen: Ayala - Def not available for tonight, both based on last night's work load and also a right groin strain, something he apparently did on the first pitch last night Schoeneweis - Tweaked his back while stretching, was not available for Friday's game and may not be for today Sanchez - Apparently has some sort of knee problem. He's not necc out of the picture but doesn't sound like he'll be the first one up Heilman - IS back in the picture after getting three days off following his 60-pitch outing on Tuesday Sounds like Figgy might be the first guy up (unless Pelfrey wants to notch a 3rd consectutive CG) w/Heilman to close and some combo of Smith & Stokes in between.

KC Aug 30 2008 05:20 PM

Ramirez ss Hermida rf Cantu 3b Jacobs 1b Willingham lf Uggla 2b Ross cf Baker c Nolasco p Wright already with a two run bomb in the first!

bmfc1 Aug 30 2008 05:42 PM

Siddown Ross, you little bitch.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 05:42 PM

Kick his ass!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 05:43 PM

Guess who leads off next inning...

bmfc1 Aug 30 2008 05:43 PM

Does it hurt, honey? It wasn't on purpose, you moron. The ump should toss Ross for being a little, whiny, baby. Why don't you get Miguel Olivo to hit the 3B coach (I know he's in KC now)?

Methead Aug 30 2008 05:47 PM

Didn't Ross get drilled in the back during the last series? I'm not saying either of 'em were on purpose but I'm sure Ross didn't forget. Not sure if Pelfrey hit him last time though.

KC Aug 30 2008 05:47 PM

That was pretty pussified, get out of the way next time if you don't want to get hit. Picked off to boot, ha ha.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 05:47 PM

And picked him off. My Mancrush on Pelf is bordering on pornographic.

seawolf17 Aug 30 2008 05:53 PM

Loved that whole Ross sequence. Loved it. Pelfrey is becoming a man this season.

seawolf17 Aug 30 2008 05:55 PM

Jeebus, Castillo limps like a 70-year-old grandma.

seawolf17 Aug 30 2008 05:58 PM

See, you can "shift" all you want, but if you don't know how to field ground balls, then it's not going to matter, suckas.

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2008 06:12 PM

WTF is Ross thinking ... that Pelfrey is throwing at him w/the bases empty, two-outs/two strikes?!? Don't flatter yourself sweetie. Only other Marlin runner besides that is the fly ball that Murphy couldn't find.

seawolf17 Aug 30 2008 06:34 PM

Let's go up there hacking so we can get through five, fellas. Enough taking pitches. David Wright... "Linkin Park and Frank Sinatra"? Odd.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 30 2008 06:37 PM

Just getting here. Big Pelf might lead this team in wins by the end of the season. And if you told me that in April, I'd have thought that would have meant the rest of the rotation was in a tragic accident. Great step forward for him!

seawolf17 Aug 30 2008 06:40 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Just getting here. Big Pelf might lead this team in wins by the end of the season. And if you told me that in April, I'd have thought that would have meant the rest of the rotation was in a tragic accident. Great step forward for him! Much like Delgado leading in home runs.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 30 2008 06:41 PM

Take a seat, Cody! I have to say, he didn't seem like such a punk when he played here for the Whitecaps.

KC Aug 30 2008 06:48 PM

Official game now, it's been raining for the last couple of innings. I guessed Cone was the answer to the trivia question, which was what was the last Met to throw three complete games in a row, but ya'll will have to take my word on it. Pelf looks sharp. Cody K'd in his next AB and looks like he may have a stroke any time soon before this one ends.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 06:48 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Take a seat, Cody! I have to say, he didn't seem like such a punk when he played here for the Whitecaps. Oh, I've always thought he deserved a pop in the kisser. Cody and Jeremy and Josh -- it's the team you wanna beat up on the playground.

seawolf17 Aug 30 2008 07:10 PM

Way to get out of it, Pelf. Suck it, Cody Ross.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 07:10 PM

Cody kills the rally. OK, O, get back to work. 1 run since the first you know.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 30 2008 07:11 PM

He's up to 100 pitches, though. Wonder of Jerry will try to get another one or two innings out of him.

Rockin' Doc Aug 30 2008 07:13 PM

Marlins break through for a pair of runs. 3-2 Mets after six innings. Let's get those runs back in the seventh.

seawolf17 Aug 30 2008 07:13 PM

Gary & Keith, not "Simpsons" fans, apparently.

Rockin' Doc Aug 30 2008 07:18 PM

Two out walk to Reyes. This would be a good time for him to run if he can get a good jump.

Rockin' Doc Aug 30 2008 07:20 PM

Jose steals second, now if Castillo can get a hit for the 2 out RBI.

Rockin' Doc Aug 30 2008 07:22 PM

Hey Luis, you have to swing the bat in order to hit the ball.

KC Aug 30 2008 07:27 PM

A nice 3-6-3 DP is a thing of beauty.

Rockin' Doc Aug 30 2008 07:36 PM

Feliciano with yet another stellar appearance.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 07:38 PM

Duaner Sanchez lives.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 30 2008 07:38 PM

Big K ends it, but they scare me.

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2008 07:42 PM

There would have been a whole lot less drama in that inning - not to mention two fewer pitchers used - if Pelfrey had gotten the call on that 2-2 pitch to Hanley.

bmfc1 Aug 30 2008 07:52 PM

F U Duaner

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 07:54 PM

Well there you go. We really have to be thinking about bullpeners with the best chance of helping the team win over the next few weeks.

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2008 07:55 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: We really have to be thinking about bullpeners with the best chance of helping the team win over the next few weeks. Problem is, none of them are on this team. At least Pedro F & Duaner continue the tradition of not getting the first batter out.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 30 2008 07:58 PM

Jacobs kills us time and again. Would have liked to see them bring up Al Reyes so we can at least use him in the post-season should we get there. I just can't see Sanchez helping us.

KC Aug 30 2008 08:05 PM

Stoked!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 08:05 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]We really have to be thinking about bullpeners with the best chance of helping the team win over the next few weeks. Problem is, none of them are on this team. At least Pedro F & Duaner continue the tradition of not getting the first batter out. Well Duaner got HIS first batter out, just not the first one of this inning. My point, I guess, is that I'm having more and more trouble figuring out how Sanchez is at all capable of helping a bullclub that has to win from here on out, much less be of any use in the playoffs. If Al Reyes/Rincon need a promotion before 9/1 to be eligible than Sanchez has to be odd man out, doesn't he? Next year we can find lightning in some other bottle.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 08:09 PM

Yeah I had the sound down earlier. What was the deal with Murph's caught stealing? Looked like a dumb idea.

Nymr83 Aug 30 2008 08:10 PM

]My point, I guess, is that I'm having more and more trouble figuring out how Sanchez is at all capable of helping a bullclub that has to win from here on out, much less be of any use in the playoffs he's not. is his velocity still down as it has been lately? the bullpen has sucked ass again, can the offense pick them up? Murphy is on...

Fman99 Aug 30 2008 08:12 PM

Let's Go Mets! (I hate you, Duaner.)

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2008 08:12 PM

The guess is that it was a missed H-&-R (by either the batter or runner). Seemed dumb to steal w/1 out and the pitcher on deck. If Jerry was thinking about Lindstrom here as soon as he sent up the RH PH it was probably a smart move using the fastball hitting Easley over the off-speed hitting Tatis.

Fman99 Aug 30 2008 08:18 PM

Easley and Reyes fly out. Heilman up to pitch to the top of the order here in the 9th. I have nervous.

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2008 08:20 PM

Bullpen battles suck when you're on the road ... and when your bullpen sucks.

Rockin' Doc Aug 30 2008 08:21 PM

The bullpen is killing this team. I don't have faith in the reliability of anyone out there right now.

KC Aug 30 2008 08:23 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2008 08:25 PM

I know everyone loves to blame the pen, but this team's offense takes way too many four, five, six, inning snoozes.

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2008 08:23 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2008 08:24 PM

Heilman: 0 runs, 3 hits & 18 Ks in 12 innings this year agin Florida

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 08:24 PM

O has to do more too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 08:26 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: Heilman: 0 runs, 3 hits & 18 Ks in 12 innings this year agin Florida In danger now. Though tuff ball 4 call.

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2008 08:26 PM

That call at 3rd could have gone either way.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 08:28 PM

Here we go again with the Rogers Gambit.

Nymr83 Aug 30 2008 08:30 PM

i'd have pitched to Jacobs who strikes out a TON

Fman99 Aug 30 2008 08:31 PM

Weak.

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2008 08:31 PM

Jeez, at least make them get a hit to win the game!!

Nymr83 Aug 30 2008 08:31 PM

Nymr83 wrote: i'd have pitched to Jacobs who strikes out a TON of course that doesnt matter when you're just gonna walk the next guy anyway, throw a fucking strike

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 08:31 PM

Heilman wasn't throwing strikes.

bmfc1 Aug 30 2008 08:31 PM

F U Heilman, and F U Omar for giving us this bullpen.

Fman99 Aug 30 2008 08:31 PM

I think the Rogers strategy sucks ass.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 08:33 PM

We don't have the talent to pull it off I guess.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 30 2008 08:34 PM

Brutal. Absolutely brutal.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 30 2008 08:35 PM

And the worst part is that Pedro going tomorrow, you know we're going to lean on the pen for at least three innings.

metirish Aug 30 2008 08:39 PM

Tough to watch but you could see that happening , I don't care much for that strategy.

Centerfield Aug 30 2008 08:43 PM

It's getting to the point that these kick to the groin losses are hurting less. This bullpen is making my groin stronger.

Nymr83 Aug 30 2008 08:44 PM

Fman99 wrote: I think the Rogers strategy sucks ass. there are times when you do it and times when you don't, it really has to boil down, with nobody out, who you think you can get a groundball (or K, or popup) out of with the infield in.

AG/DC Aug 30 2008 10:06 PM

No, I think the need to pitch with a margin for error should always be a factor as well.

AG/DC Aug 30 2008 10:47 PM

I actually did this once. Playing Strat-O-Matic with players from the 1986 season, I had a a tie game in the ninth. I had a twin-closer system, using Mark Eichorn against righties and Rob Murphy against lefties. Eichorn yielded a bedeviling .135 / .186 / .165 // .310 line against righties that year, but that didn't stop Rickey Henderson, who, with two out, tripled against young Mark. Coming up were Lenny Dykstra and Don Mattingly, lefties both, good ones, and malevolent matchups for Eichorn, who was quite human against even pedestrian lefties. I thought about switching to Murphy, but looming behind the lefties was the number four hitter for Tony Goldstone's Milwaukee Marauders. Tony was weak, exploiting that we didn't have a formal rule keeping you from over-using players with distorted stat lines from limited use. He had Junior Ortiz, who hit .336 that year in 110 at-bats, as his cleanup hitter. Junior actually hit a pretty empty .336, but whatever. It had served Tony right earlier in the game when Ortiz went down with an injury and had to be replaced by Mark Sullivan, a sucker Sunday catcher who wouldn't even have been drafted in our league had he not been fortunate enough to play in a World Series that season. Sully actually hit a little better against righties than against lefties, though still not good, at .235 / .284 / .294 // .578. I picked up Murphy's card, and put it down, and decided to save him for later innings. This was the time for a the Kenny Rogers solution. Eichorn walked Dykstra, walked Mattingly, and fanned Sully. Won the thing in inning eleven, I think on a sac fly by Mike Diaz. I don't expect I'll ever try that again.

Nymr83 Aug 31 2008 12:53 AM

]but that didn't stop Rickey Henderson, who, with two out, tripled against young Mark two out is not "the kenny rogers situation" with 2 outs you have 3 choices of which hitter you want to face (though i personally wouldnt choose the 3rd one unless it was something like Ortiz-Manny-Drew and i'm walking them to get to Drew) to get only 1 out, no infield in or anything

AG/DC Aug 31 2008 05:51 AM

No doubt. "The Kenny Rogers Solution" is a response to a runner on third with different out counts. We were working wth no out in last week's situtation, and one out here. Still wouldn't have done it. I'm certainly not arguing that not doing it would have meant success, only a better chance at it.