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Frayed Knot Aug 27 2008 08:36 PM

... for the Yanquis Bombed out in game 2 vs Boston in a series where their manager flat-out stated beforehand they needed to take at least 2 of 3. And while they can claim injuries, they played a team with no Lowell, no JD Drew, no Lugo (OK, that might be an advantage for the Sawx), no Beckett, and of course no Manny. All hopes for the division were essentially dead already. Tampa won again today and now the Yanx are 10.5 out. So it's WC or bust for them -- but where the math really gets tough is that they need to catch both Boston AND the loser of the Twins/ChiSox race. It's one thing to play well down the stretch while the team in front of you stumbles. But having to catch fire and have several teams fall apart starts to get problematic. Today's action puts them 7 and 4.5 games behind Boston & Minny (6.5 in back of Chicago)

Benjamin Grimm Aug 27 2008 09:03 PM

I so want them to be mathematically eliminated by the time they play that final game at Yankee Stadium 2.

Centerfield Aug 27 2008 09:05 PM

The great part is how people will be muttering about how A-Rod can only perform in blowouts.

AG/DC Aug 27 2008 09:14 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 28 2008 05:57 AM

Seeing the length and money they are now committed to him, I'm thinking he's made his point that the Yankee culture is full of bum foolishness that can't appreciate the best player in the league unjustly playing out of position, right under their noses, night after night. I'm ready for him to start actually declining and being an actual albatross around their necks.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 27 2008 09:37 PM

Yeah, only 9.25 more years, Arod. Hang in there. Peeked in on the MFY game a few times and what looked like a tight one was suddenly a blowout.

Frayed Knot Aug 27 2008 09:59 PM

The thing about ARod is that this season he actually is having a lousy clutch year despite good all around numbers. It's just funny listening to MFY fans yakking about it because: a) they think it's a permanent and untreatable condition since they believe 'clutchness' is supposed to be an acquired trait once one puts on the pinstripes b) they have such short memories that they can't seem to remember last year when he carried them on his back for most of the season c) they think it's their biggest problem

Benjamin Grimm Aug 28 2008 08:48 AM

Yankees' tragic number is 21 for the division, 24 for the Wild Card.

Centerfield Aug 28 2008 08:52 AM

ARod should try to be like Jeter and just have a mediocre year all around.

Frayed Knot Aug 28 2008 08:54 AM

="Benjamin Grimm"]I so want them to be mathematically eliminated by the time they play that final game at Yankee Stadium 2. Or, better still, nathematically eliminated ON the final day at YSII

Benjamin Grimm Aug 28 2008 08:54 AM

AND he should drive an Edge. I haven't seen an SNY telecast in almost three weeks now. Has that commercial resurfaced? Or have we managed to kill it off?

metirish Aug 28 2008 09:03 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: AND he should drive an Edge. I haven't seen an SNY telecast in almost three weeks now. Has that commercial resurfaced? Or have we managed to kill it off? Killed off? , I wish , the damn thing is on more than ever and the ad for his website as well. http://www.jetersfordchallenge.com/

holychicken Aug 28 2008 09:08 AM

metirish wrote: ="Benjamin Grimm"]AND he should drive an Edge. I haven't seen an SNY telecast in almost three weeks now. Has that commercial resurfaced? Or have we managed to kill it off? Killed off? , I wish , the damn thing is on more than ever and the ad for his website as well. http://www.jetersfordchallenge.com/ How DARE you soil our wonderful board with such a dirty, NSFL link.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 28 2008 09:33 AM

Look I'm never going to going to that Jeter website but could it be any gayer than this? [url]http://www.davidwrightorwrong.com/[/url]

metirish Aug 28 2008 09:36 AM

Not more gayer , good golly miss molly.

attgig Aug 28 2008 10:15 AM

="Frayed Knot"] ="Benjamin Grimm"]I so want them to be mathematically eliminated by the time they play that final game at Yankee Stadium 2. Or, better still, nathematically eliminated ON the final day at YSII I'd like to see them mathematically eliminated before the whole homestand, or at least before the last series. It would make for such a anticlimatic ending to the stadium. Players listless and not giving a damn. AAA'ers playing while the old guys sit. I think that would be funner to hear about.

themetfairy Aug 28 2008 12:12 PM

MK and I saw the last few innings of this game on ESPN last night. Pure...Baseball...Porn!

G-Fafif Aug 28 2008 03:40 PM

metirish wrote: Not more gayer , good golly miss molly. There should be a bottle of that stuff in every cupholder in every Ford Edge.

AG/DC Aug 29 2008 09:22 AM

Boston's last game ever at YSII today.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 29 2008 09:25 AM

That was yesterday

AG/DC Aug 29 2008 09:26 AM

Hah. Now I can't read a schedule. Just bury me now. Aren't you supposed to have teenagers before you get this stupid?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 30 2008 02:35 PM

MFYs blow a 6-2 lead thanks to a Cano error, then fail to tie it up in the 9th when Arod lines into a DP. Jays win 7-6.

metirish Aug 31 2008 08:16 AM

That GIDP by Rodriguez was his 11th this month , a MFY record. EDIT - Saw that just now on an ESPN scroll.

seawolf17 Aug 31 2008 02:15 PM

And Roy Halladay beats the Yankees for the fourth time this year in the Jays' 6-2 win. The Yanks' two runs? Home runs from Slappy and Roids. Ain't nobody more clutch. They're now 7.5 out of the wild card, with Toronto (9.5) chomping on their asses and Minnesota (3.5) in the middle. Magic number is 20.

Frayed Knot Sep 02 2008 11:26 AM

- Yanx managed to take their 11-2 lead and hold on for a 13-9 win ... but Boston's Monday night win still drops the tragic number (tragic for them not me) to 19 - BP's playoff odds report drops them to [u:0ddd141fb7]under 1%[/u:0ddd141fb7] chance of reaching post-season (0.88%) - Mike Francesa pronounces them "Done"

metsguyinmichigan Sep 02 2008 11:44 AM

I'm waiting for Fox and ESPN to trot out the "Yankees must be in the post-season" in their contracts. Woe! Think of all the hours spent preparing those "Farewell to the Stadium" montages they have no doubt prepared for those playoff game intros! If the Yankees don't make it, does Derek Jeter automatically get added to the roster of some team in the playoffs? Afterall, we've all been led to believe that the playoffs can't exist without the Cap'n!

Benjamin Grimm Sep 02 2008 11:48 AM

="Frayed Knot"]Mike Francesa pronounces them "Done" Now this worries me. Too many times when Francesa makes pronouncements, they're wrong.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 02 2008 11:57 AM

I've decided to give this developing story the no-hitter treatment until it comes to fruition, keeping my pleasure deeply contained and enveloped in paranoia.

Valadius Sep 02 2008 11:59 AM

I'm with Bucket, but I'm seriously excited that we're on the cusp here.

PiazzaFan411 Sep 02 2008 11:59 AM

]Magic number is 20 I feel like an idiot asking, but what exactly does that mean.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 02 2008 12:01 PM

That should have read "tragic number." It's the Red Sox magic number for eliminating the Yankees for the Wild Card. From Boston's perspective it's a "magic" number but for the Yankees it's a "tragic" number.

AG/DC Sep 02 2008 12:29 PM

Magic number is, for a first place team, the combined number of wins you need, combined with losses for the second place team, in order to clinch a championship. Any day the Mets win and Phils lose reduces the number by two. If one of these things happens, the number goes down by one.

SteveJRogers Sep 02 2008 08:47 PM

MFY win, staving off the tragic number in the division from dropping, Sox beat the Orioles though, pushing the WC number forward.

Frayed Knot Sep 02 2008 08:52 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I've decided to give this developing story the no-hitter treatment until it comes to fruition, keeping my pleasure deeply contained and enveloped in paranoia. I thought about doing this too ... but ultimately I opted for reveling in the countdown like I'm a a pig rolling around in shit. So to update Einstein's theory: E=18 (E = Elimination Day)

SteveJRogers Sep 02 2008 08:54 PM

Elimination is 15 for the division (Rays), 18 for the wild card (Red Sox).

Frayed Knot Sep 02 2008 09:04 PM

I don't care about the division, I already saw them not win that last year. I want them out of the playoffs yesterday if not sooner. Would have helped today if Eric Hinske hadn't run the base like a total dork for Tampa. With none out and one on he doubles but decides to head for 3rd even though the coach has the runner. Hinske with his head down gets all the way there forcing the runner to leave and get himself tagged out heading home (by about 30 feet). So thinking that wasn't bad enough, he then stays at 3rd on an infield-back groundout (they never even looked at him) and now there are 2 outs/no runs. Took Mussina right off the hook early on. Rays out-hit the Yanx and still got blown out.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 03 2008 08:46 PM

I don't care about the division either. The Yankees being forced to settle for the Wild Card last year brought me no satisfaction. They win again today against the Rays, but Boston's win this afternoon reduces the tragic number to 17.

Frayed Knot Sep 03 2008 08:54 PM

Tonight's Yanx/Rays game had the first ever instant replay challenge. An ARod HR went down the line and over the foul pole hitting off the back of the stadium behind that. It was called a HR - the Rays went nuts - the umps disappeared for approx 2-1/2 minutes - and confirmed their original call.

AG/DC Sep 03 2008 09:32 PM

Did the game of baseball survive?

Frayed Knot Sep 03 2008 09:44 PM

Yes, but Yanqui fans are complaining that, because it was ARod, the HR would have been waved off had the game been close at the time.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 03 2008 11:12 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: Yes, but Yanqui fans are complaining that, because it was ARod, the HR would have been waved off had the game been close at the time. If it were Jeter, it could have bounced on the warning track before going over the fence and they would have called it a homer.

Nymr83 Sep 03 2008 11:23 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: ="Frayed Knot"]Yes, but Yanqui fans are complaining that, because it was ARod, the HR would have been waved off had the game been close at the time. If it were Jeter, it could have bounced on the warning track before going over the fence and they would have called it a homer. its mlb rule 96.2: "If Derek Jeter shall hit a ball within 20 feet of the foul pole it shall be considered a homerun if the game is either (a) in the 6th inning or later, (b) within 3 runs, or (c) a playoff game. if Derek Jeter shall hit a ball beyond the original position in which an outfielder was standing when the pitch was thrown it shall be a homerun if (a) a fan reaches out and grabs it (b) it can reasonably be ruled a homerun without completely undermining the integrity of the game (c) a fan jumps on the field and returns to his seat, with the ball, before security can tackle him, or (d) the yankees need to win the game."

AG/DC Sep 04 2008 06:22 AM

"Completely" is a judgment call that shall be left up to the discretion of the mayor.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 04 2008 06:18 PM

Rays score 5 in the second, lead the Yankees 5-0, Yankees batting in the top of the third.

Frayed Knot Sep 04 2008 06:25 PM

Desperate times; Girardi pulled his starter (Rasner) with just one out in the 2nd (3 runs in and 2 on). Some pitcher wearing #91 is now in. You're playing in the state of Florida and there are quick hooks and high numbers on guys you've never heard of ... It's Spring Training!!

seawolf17 Sep 04 2008 06:58 PM

That would be Alfredo Aceves! If you told a Yankee fan in April that crucial September innings would be the property of Alfredo Aceves, he'd kick you in the nuts and tell you that you're just jealous because of TWENTY-SIX CHAMPIONSHIPS, BABY.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 04 2008 07:13 PM

No, he'd probably tell you that that means that Alfredo Aceves must be the next Yankee Great.

AG/DC Sep 04 2008 07:52 PM

That's why he kicked me in the nuts. I've been wondering for five months.

HahnSolo Sep 04 2008 08:30 PM

7-5 now thanks to 9th inning HRs by Jeter and ARod. Madden finally takes out Jason Hammel. Two outs when all this has happened.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 04 2008 08:33 PM

And the Rays finally end that inning and win the damn thing by a score of 7 to 5. Wild Card tragic number is 16.

AG/DC Sep 05 2008 05:28 AM

Average wins by position in AL East: 98.2 94.6 87.3 83.4 73.6 AL East W L Pct3 Avg W Avg L Champions Wild Card Playoffs 1D Change 7D Change Rays 84 53 .590 97.3 64.7 66.69940 32.62436 99.32375 -0.26945 1.32926 Red Sox 82 57 .625 95.5 66.5 33.25640 64.80555 98.06195 .37459 4.47729 Yankees 75 64 .556 86.8 75.2 .04158 1.26167 1.30325 .24833 -0.11596 Blue Jays 72 66 .552 83.9 78.1 .00262 .23680 .23942 -0.00817 -0.16064 Orioles 63 76 .481 73.6 88.4 .00000 .00000 .00000 .00000 -0.00021

Frayed Knot Sep 05 2008 07:20 AM

Those were the stats [u:cd886e9148]Pre[/u:cd886e9148] last night's loss. NYY post-season odds now down at 0.75%

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 05 2008 10:37 PM

No-hit for 7 2/3rd by Seattle's Brandon Morrow before Betimit breaks it up with a double. M's settle for a 2-hit, 3-1 win. Tampa loses again but to Toronto which is now a half-game from putting the MFYs in 4th place. Boston wins. Minnesota Wins. White Sox win.

Frayed Knot Sep 06 2008 05:59 AM

Eh, not to worry, it's not like that was Brandon Morrow's 1st ML start or anything ... oh wait, it was! Tragic number for WC down to 14 BP playoff odds down to 0.268% - and actually below that of Toronto The 7 games the NYY have coming up against Angels and ChiSox probably has a lot to do with that.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 07 2008 05:36 PM

All alone in 4th place. Baltimore needs to catch fire to finish the job however.

seawolf17 Sep 07 2008 05:54 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: All alone in 4th place. Baltimore needs to catch fire to finish the job however. That would be epic, but I'll be happy with fourth place. But ONLY if the Mets pull this one out themselves. I don't care where they finish if our guys don't finish first.

Frayed Knot Sep 07 2008 07:26 PM

Tragic number = 12 Y'know what might be the funniest thing is that the Yanx high-lights aren't even getting on ESPN these days. If the show starts to run low on time theirs is one of the games getting skipped along with the other bottom feeders.

Frayed Knot Sep 09 2008 06:36 AM

TEN not that I'm counting or anything

AG/DC Sep 09 2008 07:11 AM

seawolf17 Sep 09 2008 07:36 AM

AG/DC wrote: Excellent.

Frayed Knot Sep 09 2008 08:07 AM

btw, playoff odds now at 0.11% They also looked like shit in the brief parts of the game I saw last night. The Angels 6-run 6th included a push-fight between Toriiii Hunter and a clearly frustrated Pudge-Rod who definitely didn't appreciate Toriiii stealing bases like the paths were suddenly shortened to 50 feet. He was finally thrown out on a grounder at home where what seemed like a light tag escalated into a brief scuffle and Hunter & Rodriguez ejections.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 09 2008 08:25 AM

Yes, I shall now commence with the countdown myself. Here is my MFY checklist for 2008: 1. Screw up Torre situation (check) 2. Screw up Arod negotiations (check) 3. Finish 2nd in Santana Sweepstakes (check) 4. To the Mets (check) 5. Have young starters experiment go predictably horrible (check) 6. Lose a half-dozen games in the late innings as a result of strenuous effort to convert Jobba to starter, then lose a few more while he ramps up (check) 7. Have New Boss declare Jobba (4 wins) "the most dominating starting pitcher in baseball" then have him get hurt, then begin transition back to the bullpen assuring scenario will repeat itselkf in '09 (check) 8. Get abused in season series to the Mets including a sweep at MFY Stadium (check) 9. Make a bunch of aggressive trades at deadline, then slide in the standings anyway (check) 10. Acquire Xavier Nady in the middle of his best season only to watch in horror as he reveals himself to be a terrible outfielder and prolific whiffer whose OBP declines by 70 points in a MFY uni (check) 11. Regret not trading Kennedy, Hughes, Cabrera and Cano (check) 12. Have New Boss declare Girardi a complete success despite team tuning him out (check) 13. Come to terms with the fact that Jeter isn't getting any better (check) 14. Have Arod repay massive new contract with season that confirms his every worst reputation as a choker (check) 15. Have Mussina fall short of 20 wins (pending) 16. Have Pettitte turn in the kind of season that might resemble that of a guy who'd used PEDs his whole career and now doesn't (check) 17. Get eliminated (pending) 18. Finish below .500 (pending) 19. Finish in last place (pending) 20. Gay lockerroom affair(s) revealed in Arod divorce battle (pending)

AG/DC Sep 09 2008 08:35 AM

I think the saddest thing (or coolest, depending on how mean-spirited you are) is that Chamberlain's injury came as a starter after YankeeHankee publickly poo-pooed developmental concerns and ripped the intelligence of his own braintrust for not starting him.

seawolf17 Sep 09 2008 08:36 AM

Yeah, but that's just because they're hurt. No other team in the history of baseball has ever had to deal with the injuries that the Yankees have had to deal with this season. Bud Selig should wait until the injured players have a chance to heal, then let the team replay those games that they missed. It's really the only equitable solution.

Centerfield Sep 09 2008 08:58 AM

What they should do is petition God to have Yankee injuries heal faster than other players. God should understand what this organization has meant to the universe as a whole. It's just that God is so short-sighted and doesn't understand the Bombers' rich history. Mitchell must be part of his advisory team or something...

Fman99 Sep 09 2008 10:11 AM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yes, I shall now commence with the countdown myself. Here is my MFY checklist for 2008: 1. Screw up Torre situation (check) 2. Screw up Arod negotiations (check) 3. Finish 2nd in Santana Sweepstakes (check) 4. To the Mets (check) 5. Have young starters experiment go predictably horrible (check) 6. Lose a half-dozen games in the late innings as a result of strenuous effort to convert Jobba to starter, then lose a few more while he ramps up (check) 7. Have New Boss declare Jobba (4 wins) "the most dominating starting pitcher in baseball" then have him get hurt, then begin transition back to the bullpen assuring scenario will repeat itselkf in '09 (check) 8. Get abused in season series to the Mets including a sweep at MFY Stadium (check) 9. Make a bunch of aggressive trades at deadline, then slide in the standings anyway (check) 10. Acquire Xavier Nady in the middle of his best season only to watch in horror as he reveals himself to be a terrible outfielder and prolific whiffer whose OBP declines by 70 points in a MFY uni (check) 11. Regret not trading Kennedy, Hughes, Cabrera and Cano (check) 12. Have New Boss declare Girardi a complete success despite team tuning him out (check) 13. Come to terms with the fact that Jeter isn't getting any better (check) 14. Have Arod repay massive new contract with season that confirms his every worst reputation as a choker (check) 15. Have Mussina fall short of 20 wins (pending) 16. Have Pettitte turn in the kind of season that might resemble that of a guy who'd used PEDs his whole career and now doesn't (check) 17. Get eliminated (pending) 18. Finish below .500 (pending) 19. Finish in last place (pending) 20. Gay lockerroom affair(s) revealed in Arod divorce battle (pending) You forgot "Thong-gate" and the Giambi moustache, the two most sordid bylines of the 2008 MFYs. God this has been a great year.

metirish Sep 09 2008 10:59 AM

Excellent stuff Bucket , very funny but true.

AG/DC Sep 09 2008 11:02 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 10 2008 10:00 AM

Quick and dirty trade tracker: Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte for Jose Tabata, Jeff Karstens, Daniel McCutchen, and Ross Ohlendorf. Xavier Nady's National League OPS before the deal: .918 Xavier Nady's American League OPS since the deal: .859 Jose Tabata's AA OPS before the deal: .630. Jose Tabata's AA OPS snce the deal: .964. Damaso Marte's National League ERA before the deal: 3.47 in 46.7 IP. Damaso Marte's American League ERA since the deal: 6.75 in 13.3 IP. Karstens', McCutchen's, and Ohlendor's combined ERAs at AAA before the deal: 3.74 in 161 IP. Karstens', McCutchen's, and Ohlendor's combined ERAs at AAA since the deal: 4.09 in 94 2/3 IP. Karstens', McCutcheon's, and Ohlendorf's combined ERAs in the American League since the deal: 6.53 in 40 IP. Karstens', McCutcheon's, and Ohlendorf's combined ERAs in the National League since the deal: 4.47 in 46 1/3 IP.

duan Sep 10 2008 09:39 AM

what I spotted from that site linked to in the elimination thread is that "it's out of their hands!" even IF they win every remaining game, they need others to falter. Now they're not 100% out of it yet but BY jesus it's almost over.

AG/DC Sep 10 2008 09:08 PM

soupcan Sep 11 2008 07:15 AM

(Edgy - I can't see your image but I'm wondering if we're thinking alike...?)

AG/DC Sep 11 2008 07:29 AM

I was, I had this guy: I think it's now this guy:

AG/DC Sep 11 2008 07:31 AM

By the way, how about the phrase, "Bill is considered the greatest catcher of all time"? By whom?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 11 2008 07:35 AM

His mom.

soupcan Sep 11 2008 07:37 AM

Maris is for the Wild Card elimination.

AG/DC Sep 11 2008 07:52 AM

Yeah, let's stick with that.

Frayed Knot Sep 13 2008 06:21 AM

MFYs cryin' in the rain TN = 8 Playoff Odds = .06013 N-HOP (for passing Boston) = 75% (24 of 32)

metirish Sep 13 2008 07:57 AM

More fun from Hank. ]End of the line for Yankees GM Cashman? | anthony.rieber@newsday.com Was Hank Steinbrenner's latest pronouncement the final straw for Brian Cashman? Cashman, speaking in the Yankees' clubhouse Friday night, seemed like a guy one step closer to the exit after Steinbrenner's statement a day earlier that he wants the general manager to be head of an advisory group. Cashman, whose contract expires Oct. 31, had agreed to return in 2005 only if he were given sole decision-making power in the Yankees' baseball hierarchy by George Steinbrenner. Did Cashman see the comments? "Oh, I saw them," he said. His reaction? "I think the Steinbrenners should have a structure set up they feel comfortable with," he said. "Without a doubt." Will he be part of that structure? "At the end of the day, I definitely believe as owners, they need to set up a structure that they're comfortable with," he said. "It's as simple as that." Again ... does he want to return if that's the structure? "I'm certainly not going to make this about me," he said. "I do have an advisory board. It's my manager, it's my coaching staff, it's our pro scouting director, it's our farm director, it's our amateur scouting director. Those are the advisers that I utilize. But I fully support whatever the Steinbrenner family feels the proper structure needs to be. I think they need to set that up. They need to take care of that themselves, there's no doubt about that." Steinbrenner, in an interview with The Associated Press on Thursday, said: "If Brian stays on as GM, that doesn't mean he won't be the No. 1 guy. But the fact is, the more opinions the better. I think that's probably the best way. It worked in the '90s and it can work again." Of course, it's not clear how much input The Baby Boss actually has in the day-to-day goings-on of the franchise. Hank Steinbrenner mostly has been an unpredictable public speaker and has attended three games this season; his brother Hal actually has been a presence, forging a close working relationship with Cashman. But Hank's bluster could be enough to tip the scales against a return for Cashman. Hank Steinbrenner also said Thursday, "We're going to have to look at what has been done wrong over the last five years, which I've had one year to try and figure out. Clearly, a lot of mistakes were made." Asked if he agrees with that assessment, Cashman said: "I'm not going to comment on it." Cashman has been linked to expected front-office openings in Philadelphia, Seattle and Washington. Asked about those reports, he said: "Obviously, they are just reports. I'm linked here. That's where I'm at. I've got a job and we're dealing with obviously a lot right now. That's the focus. As simple as that."

Kong76 Sep 13 2008 01:43 PM

I haven't really watched a whole Yankee game in a long time but today was the first one I've had on in three rooms while doing crap. Seriously, how do Yankee fans make it through 9 innings of Michael Kay day after day after day? 7-sniffle Rays almost through eight.

Valadius Sep 13 2008 02:13 PM

And the Rays win!

Frayed Knot Sep 13 2008 02:55 PM

Seven

Frayed Knot Sep 14 2008 08:47 AM

TN = 6 Playoff Odds = .03873 N-HOP (for passing Boston) = 78.6% (22 of 28)

SteveJRogers Sep 14 2008 07:43 PM

Tragic number for both division and wild card stand at 5.

soupcan Sep 15 2008 07:26 AM

metirish Sep 15 2008 02:09 PM

I laughed heartily when I read this quote form Cano today. Cano on being benched. ] "He's right, he's the manager, and like they say, four eyes can see better than two. I let the team down, Ninety-nine percent of the time I play hard. It's kind of frustrating not helping the team, but he's right."

HahnSolo Sep 15 2008 02:17 PM

like they say, four eyes can see better than two Who says this, Robby? The guys who think you hustle 99 percent of the time?

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2008 07:52 PM

btw, Sunday's **LAST EVER GAME AT YANQUI STADIUM** I'm sure you all know is the ESPN game of the week. But even more than that, there will be about a lenghty pre-game ceremony so first pitch won't be until around 9PM. They just may get more viewers for the pomp and circumstance than they will for the game itself. Also, anyone else getting a kick out of the following? - ARod gets hits in September: well sure, NOW he does it ... too little too late ya bum ... now that the pressure is gone he heats up ... etc - Jeter gets September hits: never say die ... won't give up without a fight ... what a warrior ... etc. Francesa even noticed this and mocked it.

metirish Sep 15 2008 07:56 PM

And what's the big deal with Jeter's hit record , at first I thought it was most hits all time as a yankee, but it's most hits at yankee stadium.

Gwreck Sep 15 2008 08:46 PM

Boston beats up on the Devil Rays to tie for the AL East lead, and the number drops again, to 4.

G-Fafif Sep 15 2008 11:58 PM

Sadly the Tradge didn't move Monday night. The TN for the Sox to eliminate the MFYs is 4, but it's 5 for the Rays. A wasted evening up and down the East Coast.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 16 2008 06:56 AM

Given what's been going on in the National League, this thread isn't as much fun as it had been. I fear that, shortly after the Yankees are eliminated, we'll be asking not for whom the fat lady sings...

Gwreck Sep 16 2008 07:57 AM

MLB.com's standings lie, in that case. They have the WC (and division) elimination numbers listed as 4.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 16 2008 08:14 AM

Yankees tragic number for the Red Sox is 4 and for the Rays it's 5. Yankees have 70 losses, so the most they can win is 92 games. Red Sox have 89 wins; they need 4 to get to 93. Rays have 88 wins; they need 5 to get to 93.

soupcan Sep 16 2008 08:15 AM

SteveJRogers Sep 16 2008 09:11 PM

This will make me feel slightly better at this point AL East Wild Card

SteveJRogers Sep 19 2008 08:34 PM

AL East Tragic Number stands at 1 AL Wild Card Tragic Number stands at 2. Go O's and Sox tomorrow to make Sunday utterly, and completely meaningless.

SteveJRogers Sep 21 2008 02:14 PM

The Rays have eliminated them from the divisional race. One more loss or Red Sox win will put the MFY officially out of their misery.

Kong76 Sep 21 2008 02:17 PM

You going tonight?

SteveJRogers Sep 21 2008 02:24 PM

No. No interest actually, and too much of a freaking mob scene and tourist trap feel with the Sunday night extravaganza. Give me a Sunday afternoon without the entire world watching any day.

Kong76 Sep 21 2008 03:01 PM

Dad sold the tickets for big bucks, huh? Can't blame him.

SteveJRogers Sep 21 2008 03:10 PM

So, by no recording devices at the tailgate you mean secretly record the entire tailgate and post a transcript at every single Met forum I can think of?

SteveJRogers Sep 21 2008 03:25 PM

KC wrote: Dad sold the tickets for big bucks, huh? Can't blame him. FYI, this sums up my Dad's attitude about following baseball, just a few moments ago: "So, when is the Yankee's final game? Next weekend?" and "What time is the Met game? Tonight?" Then again, that is what happens when you stop following baseball religiously around 1968ish.

Met Hunter Sep 21 2008 03:38 PM

metirish wrote: And what's the big deal with Jeter's hit record , at first I thought it was most hits all time as a yankee, but it's most hits at yankee stadium. Four problems I have with Jeter's 'record': 1) No one knew there was even such a record before last week. 2) Gehrig never played in this stadium and vice versa. Lou's was raized down to the concrete 35 years ago. 3) The only reason 'Jeets' has this record is because poor Lou died young. 4) Who has the most hits at Fenway? Wrigley? Who gives a shit? That's who.

Kong76 Sep 21 2008 05:37 PM

SJR: So, by no recording devices at the tailgate you mean secretly record the entire tailgate and post a transcript at every single Met forum I can think of?<<< You're creepy when you connect the dots all wrong. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean or why it's even in this thread. I mean how many of your friends here have to tell you to shut up before it finally sinks in?

metsmarathon Sep 21 2008 05:43 PM

i cant even find the answers to #4 with a relatively quick google search!

Kong76 Sep 21 2008 06:22 PM

I'll say who is Billy Williams and Carl Yastrzemski, Alex. Maybe Banks. Tell me they didn't fly the trained eagle in.

HahnSolo Sep 21 2008 07:39 PM

I promise I did not watch all the pregame stuff they had. I only saw the tail end. Question: With all the history of that franchise, Bernie Williams is the last former player they introduce? Really? At least six hall of famers were announced before him.

DocTee Sep 21 2008 07:47 PM

Question: With all the history of that franchise, Bernie Williams is the last former player they introduce? Really? Was it alphabetical? I did not watch any...

Frayed Knot Sep 21 2008 07:51 PM

Or chronological maybe? Bernie would be the most recently retired "old-timer". I didn't see it either.

SteveJRogers Sep 21 2008 07:57 PM

Chronological by position. They saved CF for last.

Met Hunter Sep 21 2008 08:48 PM

CF and Bernie were saved for last for effect only. Bernie hasn't been around for a while so they were counting on him getting the loudest ovation. I watched and noticed a few things. Willie getting a huge ovation. Like an innocent man being released from Met prison. Kay had to include the 'always a Yankee' line, or some such bullshit. When introducing Mantle, Sterling noted that Mick was the last player to win the Triple Crown. To hell with Frank Robby and Yaz I guess. They never called their home a cathedral. After tonight, the stadium officially becomes a masoleum in a graveyard.

DocTee Sep 21 2008 09:03 PM

Speaking of fat and vocal cords, here's Ronan Tynan.

HahnSolo Sep 21 2008 09:04 PM

Question: with the Shea finale being an afternoon game, are the Mets planning their ceremonies for before the game or after? In theory, there should be at least the removal of the last number for the postgame. I think they've been tightlipped about it, but I like the idea of a cermony once all the games are complete.

SteveJRogers Sep 21 2008 09:22 PM

Post game. All stadium closings were postgames. This was pre only because it was a Sunday Night game.

metirish Sep 22 2008 07:15 AM

Glad to say I didn't watch anything regarding the Sunday night game , didn't buy the paper today becasue of the Mets so I feel like I've not missed anything.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 22 2008 07:19 AM

I threw away the 8-page "wrap" on today's snooze and didn't watch a second of the game.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 22 2008 07:22 AM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I threw away the 8-page "wrap" on today's snooze and didn't watch a second of the game. Me too. I took that wraparound section off the paper and put it in the recycling bin without giving it a glance. And not only did I not watch any of last night's game, I didn't even realize that I wasn't watching it. Yankee Stadium didn't even have a little corner of my consciousness.

seawolf17 Sep 22 2008 07:40 AM

Newsday has their full-wrap Yogi cover on today, but they slapped a "subscribe now" sticker over the corner of it, at least on the ones they have on campus today. Funny.

metirish Sep 22 2008 09:09 AM

Oh for fucks sake , Klapisch is beyond brutal. ] It was the perfect gesture by the Yankees, who, as they ushered out the 85-year-old Stadium, saved Bernie’s appearance for last. The ovation from the sold-out crowd thundered down on the centerfielder like a hard rain. Indeed, the Bombers did their best to make everyone forget just how empty the Bronx will be next month during the post-season Bob didn't have to dip deep into his cliché bag for that one.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 22 2008 10:26 AM

Verducci's SI.com headline today: Jeter delivers one final, clutch performance. Hold on, last I saw he was stiking out with the bases juiced and whining to the umpire!! When he clutch in that game????

seawolf17 Sep 22 2008 10:33 AM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Verducci's SI.com headline today: Jeter delivers one final, clutch performance. Hold on, last I saw he was stiking out with the bases juiced and whining to the umpire!! When he clutch in that game???? Yeah, but it was a clutch 0-for-5 with two K's. I'm assuming without reading the article that he's talking about the speech he apparently delivered after the game.

soupcan Sep 22 2008 11:57 AM

By the way...

Frayed Knot Sep 22 2008 12:05 PM

I never wish bad things to happen to people, but if you were going to make a list of those you suspect might wind up drunk and dead in a ditch on the side of the road while his new bride (his 5th I believe) sat home alone on Christmas Day there aren't a whole lot of candidates you'd put there prior to Martin.

seawolf17 Sep 22 2008 12:13 PM

Huh?

Frayed Knot Sep 22 2008 12:27 PM

Just saying that that's how Martin died (see article above) out driving around with his drinking buddy on Xmas Day while his new wife sat home alone. And that if you were going to pick someone most likely to wind up in that situation, it would be Billy.

metirish Sep 22 2008 12:34 PM

Who is the girl?

HahnSolo Sep 22 2008 12:40 PM

metirish wrote: Who is the girl? Whoever she is she should close her mouth and hide those teeth. Yikes.

soupcan Sep 22 2008 12:50 PM

metirish wrote: Who is the girl? She is a Yankee fan who is proud to wear her team's tragic number for postseason elimination on her hand.

metirish Sep 22 2008 12:52 PM

soupcan wrote: ="metirish"]Who is the girl? She is a Yankee fan who is proud to wear her team's tragic number for postseason elimination on her hand. Doh , of course.

seawolf17 Sep 22 2008 01:43 PM

soupcan wrote: ="metirish"]Who is the girl? She is a Yankee fan who is proud to wear her team's tragic number for postseason elimination on her hand. Oh, duh. I get it now. Feel free to disregard my earlier "huh."

metsmarathon Sep 22 2008 02:10 PM

i feel like i'm totally missing out on a huge chunk of the conversation here... what the hell does billy martin have to do with anything, and what girl?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 22 2008 02:22 PM

="soupcan"] This girl. And I'm guessing that Billy Martin was mentioned because his uniform number, 1, matches the current tragic number for the Yankees.

soupcan Sep 22 2008 02:49 PM

That was my intent.

HahnSolo Sep 22 2008 02:50 PM

Mike Francesa just mentioned something about the Yankees having another Stadium closing event in November. Don't know what is involved. I wish I was kidding.

metsmarathon Sep 22 2008 03:33 PM

ah.... silly picture of girl with bad teeth didnt come through the internets at work. i dont feel like my life has been vastly improved by having now had the opportunity to gaze upon her.

SteveJRogers Sep 22 2008 03:39 PM

="HahnSolo"]Mike Francesa just mentioned something about the Yankees having another Stadium closing event in November. Don't know what is involved. I wish I was kidding. Some sort of rock concert with I think Springsteen. And apparantly they are inviting every single living Yankee as well.

metsmarathon Sep 22 2008 04:26 PM

jeez, i hope leyritz'll be free that day...

Frayed Knot Sep 22 2008 04:30 PM

Leyritz was apparently there last night but was not mentioned in the intros. Clemens and Torre were also neither mentioned nor shown on the various highlight films.

cooby Sep 22 2008 08:20 PM

MR. Martin, MR. Steinbrenner

Gwreck Sep 22 2008 09:48 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: Some sort of rock concert with I think Springsteen. Don't bet the farm on that.

soupcan Sep 23 2008 07:19 AM

="cooby"]MR. Martin, MR. Steinbrenner It's The New York Times, hayseed.

HahnSolo Sep 23 2008 07:33 AM

Why did Billy only last one year (a 97-win year) with the Twins?

Frayed Knot Sep 23 2008 07:42 AM

Same reason he rarely lasted more than a year or two with any team, he couldn't get along with anyone. I don't remember if the fist-fight he had with one of his pitchers was the last straw or just one of several. I was at a dinner one time when sportswriter Dick Young did a tribute to Billy by singing; 'God Don't Make Little Green Apples and I Can't Manage Minneapolis in the Summertime'

metsguyinmichigan Sep 23 2008 09:18 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 23 2008 09:59 AM

Frayed Knot wrote: Same reason he rarely lasted more than a year or two with any team, he couldn't get along with anyone. I don't remember if the fist-fight he had with one of his pitchers was the last straw or just one of several. I was at a dinner one time when sportswriter Dick Young did a tribute to Billy by singing; 'God Don't Make Little Green Apples and I Can't Manage Minneapolis in the Summertime' You were in a room with Dick Young and didn't take matters into your own hands? Some swift action on your part and my childhood would have been salvaged!

SteveJRogers Sep 23 2008 09:48 AM

Gwreck wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]Some sort of rock concert with I think Springsteen. Don't bet the farm on that. Why? Is he in the middle of an overseas tour at the moment?

SteveJRogers Sep 23 2008 09:49 AM

HahnSolo wrote: Why did Billy only last one year (a 97-win year) with the Twins? Just as FK said. IIRC the book The Bronx Is Burning actually delves more into it, where it seems there was a bit of an uprising from fans in Minny (I believe it was Minny as opposed to his next stop, Detroit) where they were upset that he was fired.

Frayed Knot Sep 23 2008 08:02 PM

"E"-Day comes for the Yanx just minutes before winning their 10th in 11 games. I was wondering if there was a news blackout on YES but apparently they did mention it before the game was over. First time in a completed season since the first year of Bill Clinton's 1st administration.

Willets Point Sep 23 2008 08:04 PM

It's the long-awaited VY Day! Someone should photoshop a Mets cap on that sailor's head.

soupcan Sep 24 2008 08:08 AM

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 24 2008 08:13 AM

It's kind of funny but as long as the MFYs aren't in the playoffs they sort of become irrelevant to me. Like, I used to check in on their games between innings just for the pleasure of seeing them lose when they did. Now, who gives a F. I think this means the Mets have clearly surpassed the MFYs as the town's best team. I mean, that was pretty clear all year long.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 24 2008 08:16 AM

Wow, he even gets the girl when his team gets eliminated. Some guys have all the luck.

metirish Sep 24 2008 08:16 AM

"I'll get youse all , scumbags"

soupcan Sep 24 2008 08:18 AM

="Benjamin Grimm"]Wow, he even gets the girl when his team gets eliminated. Some guys have all the luck. He's not getting anything - that big ghost thing is just about to swallow his overrated ass up. See Ya!

Frayed Knot Sep 24 2008 08:22 AM

All the rainbows in the sky Start to weep, then say goodbye You won't be seeing rainbows any more Setting suns before they fall, Echo to you that's all that's all But you'll see lonely sunsets after all It's over It's over It's over It's OOOOOOOOOO-ver -- Roy Orbison

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 24 2008 08:28 AM

Oh, I know something About the ways of loving And I tell you, baby, That somethings wrong Look to the sky above and the mud below Something drives me crazy, got to got to get away Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye! Without a doubt, Im telling you Im burnt out My tank is running on empty for far too long Woah! I need fuel cause Im getting so low Something drives me crazy, got to, got to get away Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye! I need fuel, just the kind you give me Makes me feel so bad Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye! I cant believe Im still around Its getting kinda late Gonna leave For a change of scenery Im going crazy Its not the same Since youve been around Im crazy, so crazy You treat me like a dirty clown Youre always kickin my dog around I never get nothin but constant abuse from you You couldnt care less what I think, or my point of view Youre always puttin the make on my friends, always giving Them eyes and the dirty lies bout me and you, well im Through, its the end of the line for you babe, heres a Ticket one way cincinnati, Im sendin you home to your ma And your daddy, so dont try to call me, youll only be wastin your Time! Oh, I know something About the ways of loving And I tell you, baby, That somethings wrong Look to the sky above and the mud below Something drives me crazy, got to got to get away Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye!

Gwreck Sep 24 2008 08:38 AM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think this means the Mets have clearly surpassed the MFYs as the town's best team. I mean, that was pretty clear all year long. That happened two years ago, and -- collapse notwithstanding -- was probably true in 2007, too.