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A Quarter Million HRs

Frayed Knot Aug 28 2008 07:51 AM

No, this is not another post about the Mets' pen. It's about the fact that baseball history is nearing the 250,000 mark in HRs hit - or at least that's the story and they're sticking to it. "These totals include regular-season home runs hit in the National (1876-now) and American Leagues (1901-now), Federal League (1914 and 1915), Players League (1890), the American Association (1882-1891), and the Union Association (1884). " It's now [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/250_000.shtml]within 300[/url] with last night's blast included, and with the rate it's going it'll be about 10-12 days before 250K is reached. I remember MLB making the One Millionth run scored of all time into a big deal complete with a bonus for the player who scored it (Bob Watson IIRC). Bud probably won't do anything similar here since it looks like about 8-9,000 of them were from the pre-1901 era and not all official MLB HRs - although maybe it'll give him an idea for two years or so from now when only post-1900 HRs reaches that mark.

metirish Aug 28 2008 08:09 AM

It would be something else if the milestone HR was a disputed one reviewed by the new replay system.

AG/DC Aug 28 2008 08:13 AM

What's wrong wtih the National Association?

AG/DC Aug 28 2008 08:16 AM

Checking it out, the NA had 229 homers, so we're right there if they count those.

SteveJRogers Aug 28 2008 10:02 AM

AG/DC wrote: What's wrong wtih the National Association? For reasons known only to MLB, MLB officially begins when the National League was formed. NA, despite both the Cubs and Braves having roots with the old NA franchises in Chicago and Boston, is considered a "minor" league.

seawolf17 Aug 28 2008 10:08 AM

SteveJRogers wrote: For reasons known only to MLB, MLB officially begins when the National League was formed. Because the American League is stupid.

AG/DC Aug 28 2008 10:09 AM

It was the only game going, and led directly to the National League. How can the National Associaton not count when the lousy Union Association does? I imagine there's some age-old political reason that's beyond my ken.

SteveJRogers Aug 28 2008 10:15 AM

AG/DC wrote: It was the only game going, and led directly to the National League. How can the National Associaton not count when the lousy Union Association does? I imagine there's some age-old political reason that's beyond my ken. I'm sure Albert Goodwill Spaulding is to blame somehow!

metirish Aug 28 2008 11:00 AM

http://www.baseball-reference.com/250_000.shtml http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/hit-250000

Gwreck Aug 28 2008 11:21 AM

I'm confused. I see several references to MLB in this thread, but no indication that this HR count is a product of anyone other than baseball-reference.com.

Frayed Knot Aug 28 2008 11:50 AM

Well I initially mentioned MLB only in noting that these were NOT just MLB HRs - that they included those leagues prior to the 1901 two-league set-up - and in wondering if Bud would make a kind of contest out of this (like they did with the 1,000,000th run deal a bunch of years back) when MLB-only HRs reaches the 250K mark in a couple of years. After that a discussion ensued as to what leagues MLB considered to be major leagues.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 28 2008 11:55 AM

And when was there first a concept of a single "MLB"? My initial thought would be around 1920 or 1921 when the two leagues agreed to have a single Commissioner.

AG/DC Aug 28 2008 12:00 PM

i actually wrote Pr. bb-ref.com, and he acknowledged that the NA would be a more viable league to include than the UA, but that's the way MLB does it. He speculated that someone at Elias or MLB goofed way back and now doesn't want to change it.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 28 2008 12:03 PM

We've seen how Elias has an attitude that those of us who want accuracy in our statistics are a little daft.

RealityChuck Aug 28 2008 01:26 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: And when was there first a concept of a single "MLB"? My initial thought would be around 1920 or 1921 when the two leagues agreed to have a single Commissioner. Well, actually, it probably dates from those years in the 19th Century where the National League was the only major league.

AG/DC Sep 02 2008 07:20 AM

249,811) Jorge Cantu (FLA) off Mike Hampton (ATL) in 1st inning. 249,812) Johnny Damon (NYY) off Justin Verlander (DET) in 2nd inning. 249,813) Gary Sheffield (DET) off Sidney Ponson (NYY) in 2nd inning. 249,814) Brandon Inge (DET) off Sidney Ponson (NYY) in 4th inning. 249,815) Miguel Cabrera (DET) off Edwar Ramirez (NYY) in 4th inning. 249,816) Ryan Zimmerman (WSN) off Kyle Kendrick (PHI) in 4th inning. 249,817) Carlos Delgado (NYM) off Eric Gagne (MIL) in 8th inning. 249,818) Yadier F. Molina (STL) off Randy Johnson (ARI) in 2nd inning. 249,819) Joe Mather (STL) off Randy Johnson (ARI) in 2nd inning. 249,820) Adam Dunn (ARI) off Joel Pineiro (STL) in 2nd inning. 249,821) Albert Pujols (STL) off Randy Johnson (ARI) in 3rd inning. 249,822) Felipe Lopez (STL) off Randy Johnson (ARI) in 3rd inning. 249,823) Chris Young (ARI) off Joel Pineiro (STL) in 4th inning. 249,824) Stephen Drew (ARI) off Joel Pineiro (STL) in 5th inning. 249,825) Jimmy Rollins (PHI) off Jesus Colome (WSN) in 9th inning. 249,826) Mark Reynolds (ARI) off Kyle McClellan (STL) in 6th inning. 249,827) Adam Jones (BAL) off Paul Byrd (BOS) in 1st inning. 249,828) Jason Varitek (BOS) off Garrett Olson (BAL) in 2nd inning. 249,829) Jeff Bailey (BOS) off Garrett Olson (BAL) in 2nd inning. 249,830) Juan Castro (BAL) off Paul Byrd (BOS) in 3rd inning. 249,831) Adrian Beltre (SEA) off Matt Harrison (TEX) in 2nd inning. 249,832) Casey Blake (LAD) off Chris Young (SDP) in 3rd inning. 249,833) Kevin Millar (BAL) off Paul Byrd (BOS) in 7th inning. 249,834) Josh Hamilton (TEX) off Carlos Silva (SEA) in 5th inning. 249,835) Taylor Teagarden (TEX) off Carlos Silva (SEA) in 5th inning. 249,836) Yuniesky Betancourt (SEA) off Josh Rupe (TEX) in 8th inning.

Frayed Knot Sep 07 2008 09:32 PM

249,996 = Carlos Delgado off Cole Hamels

AG/DC Sep 07 2008 10:12 PM

Only ten teams off tomorrow, with 20 more in action. It should happen early with 7:05 starts in homeriffic environs like Baltimore, Philly, and Boston.

metsmarathon Sep 08 2008 09:55 PM

Who will hit #250,000? 250,000 HRs in MLB History #250,000: Gary Sheffield (DET) off Gio Gonzalez (OAK). #249,999: Gary Sheffield (DET) off Gio Gonzalez (OAK), Sept. 8. #249,998: Magglio Ordonez (DET) off Gio Gonzalez (OAK) , Sept. 8. #249,997: Jason Bay (BOS) off Edwin Jackson (TBR), Sept. 8. #249,996: Carlos Delgado (NYM) off Cole Hamels (PHI), Sept. 7.

Elster88 Sep 08 2008 09:57 PM

avi

AG/DC Sep 09 2008 06:17 AM

Wow, what an effort to get into the record books by Gio Gonzalez.