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palinbabypalooza '08

how does palinbabypalooza affect her veepability?

being the mother of a special needs child, and the mother of a pregnant teenager, means to me that sarah palin is less suited to be vice president of the united states.	1 votes
being the mother of a special needs child means to me that sarah palin is less suited to be the vice president of the united states; being the mother of a pregnant teenager is irrelevant to me.	0 votes
being the mother of a pregnant teenager means to me that sarah palin is less suited to be the vice president of the united states; her being the mother of a special needs child is irrelevant to me.	1 votes
being the mother of a special needs child, and the mother of a pregnant teenager, is irrelevant to me as to whether sarah palin is suited to being the vice president of the united states.	17 votes

metsmarathon Sep 02 2008 02:25 PM

lets end the absurdity, shall we? how does being the mother or a special needs child and/or the mother of a pregnant teenager affect sarah palin's suitability to be the vice president of the united states? what does it mean to you? not to the nameless, faceless people you know, or imagine might be out there. to you. to me, it means nothing. whether or not i think she should be the next vice president of the united states, "a heartbeat away from the presidency," this issue has no affect whatsoever. how do you feel?

sharpie Sep 02 2008 02:41 PM

It's the library thing, the trooper thing, the secessionist thing, the budget busting thing, the year-and-a-half as governor of a state with very few people in it thing, not the items listed above.

holychicken Sep 02 2008 02:48 PM

It does highlight the silliness of her push for abstinence only education. I mean, she couldn't even get the point across to her own children. But, that being said, the two things at all don't affect her ability to be VP.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 02 2008 02:51 PM

holychicken wrote: It does highlight the silliness of her push for abstinence only education. Good point. Perhaps if she had learned a little more about birth control things would have turned out differently. I'm neither pro-life nor pro-choice. I do think that everyone would (or should) be happier if there were fewer abortions, and better education about birth control (as well as abstinence) would help bring that about.

OlerudOwned Sep 02 2008 03:05 PM

holychicken wrote: It does highlight the silliness of her push for abstinence only education. I mean, she couldn't even get the point across to her own children. But, that being said, the two things at all don't affect her ability to be VP. If this post and AG's post had a baby, it would be my opinion. If that baby post sparked a firestorm about how its parent post isn't fit to be hold office, I would curl up into the fetal position for a few days.

Elster88 Sep 02 2008 06:01 PM

holychicken wrote: It does highlight the silliness of her push for abstinence only education. I mean, she couldn't even get the point across to her own children. Is the weight of the message diminished because she failed to influence her kid? If anything I go the other way. Since she has seen the impact she is more qualified to express an opinion. Or were you kidding around?

OlerudOwned Sep 02 2008 06:05 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="holychicken"]It does highlight the silliness of her push for abstinence only education. I mean, she couldn't even get the point across to her own children. Is the weight of the message diminished because she failed to influence her kid? If anything I go the other way. Since she has seen the impact she is more qualified to express an opinion. I wouldn't find someone to be more qualified to teach me how to safely use a gun because they accidentally shot their last student in the face.

metsmarathon Sep 02 2008 06:10 PM

that the pregnancy of her child is germane to her abstinence only policy is silly to me. particularly if the kid has gone to schools which teach something other than strictly abstinence only. particularly, too, if abstinence only were purported to be foolproof, and guaranteed to prevent little billy and little suzy from getting it on. even moreso particularly if we were to believe that children never ever go against the wishes of a parent when the wishes of the parent make for good policy. and especially if they used a condom.

metsmarathon Sep 02 2008 06:11 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: ="Elster88"] ="holychicken"]It does highlight the silliness of her push for abstinence only education. I mean, she couldn't even get the point across to her own children. Is the weight of the message diminished because she failed to influence her kid? If anything I go the other way. Since she has seen the impact she is more qualified to express an opinion. I wouldn't find someone to be more qualified to teach me how to safely use a gun because they accidentally shot their last student in the face. well, i hardly think that she guided the boy's dick in...

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 02 2008 06:57 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: ="Elster88"] ="holychicken"]It does highlight the silliness of her push for abstinence only education. I mean, she couldn't even get the point across to her own children. Is the weight of the message diminished because she failed to influence her kid? If anything I go the other way. Since she has seen the impact she is more qualified to express an opinion. I wouldn't find someone to be more qualified to teach me how to safely use a gun because they accidentally shot their last student in the face. With a bullet of cool, of course.

Elster88 Sep 02 2008 06:59 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: ="Elster88"] ="holychicken"]It does highlight the silliness of her push for abstinence only education. I mean, she couldn't even get the point across to her own children. Is the weight of the message diminished because she failed to influence her kid? If anything I go the other way. Since she has seen the impact she is more qualified to express an opinion. I wouldn't find someone to be more qualified to teach me how to safely use a gun because they accidentally shot their last student in the face. Do you really think this is a good analogy?

OlerudOwned Sep 02 2008 10:44 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="OlerudOwned"] Elster88 wrote: ="holychicken"]It does highlight the silliness of her push for abstinence only education. I mean, she couldn't even get the point across to her own children. Is the weight of the message diminished because she failed to influence her kid? If anything I go the other way. Since she has seen the impact she is more qualified to express an opinion. I wouldn't find someone to be more qualified to teach me how to safely use a gun because they accidentally shot their last student in the face. Do you really think this is a good analogy? Probably not, but the point remains: what good is experience if it's experience with being wrong?

AG/DC Sep 03 2008 06:05 AM

I dunno. Her daughter is, in the end, still an anecdotal case. Doesn't make her right. Maybe the data supports her. I'm going to doubt it, but my doubt doesn't make the logic good. If the daughter of the head of the NTSB dies in a car wreck, it doesn't necessarily undermine that head's policy. We also don't know what kind of sex ed young Ms. Palin grew up with or followed.

Farmer Ted Sep 03 2008 07:17 AM

The Baby Daddy is allegedly in MN and going to attend the speech tonight.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 03 2008 07:38 AM

Scary picture of Levi and his sister Mercedes, holding guns in the paper today. Guess his other siblings Gillette, Sony and Starbucks weren't available.

soupcan Sep 03 2008 08:05 AM

What's up with the way people name their kids in Alaska?

Methead Sep 03 2008 08:08 AM

Farmer Ted wrote: The Baby Daddy is allegedly in MN and going to attend the speech tonight. Yes. Because we should respect the young parents' privacy. This shit makes me crazy.

Farmer Ted Sep 03 2008 09:43 AM

They're going to clean up that kid like Cactus Jack from the movie Campus Man. It'll be DEFCON 1 for the Cougars in the audience. Watch out MORGAN FAIRCHILD!

seawolf17 Sep 03 2008 11:10 AM

Methead wrote: ="Farmer Ted"]The Baby Daddy is allegedly in MN and going to attend the speech tonight. Yes. Because we should respect the young parents' privacy. This shit makes me crazy. You want to respect their privacy? Then don't run for a huge national office.

Methead Sep 03 2008 11:39 AM

seawolf17 wrote: ="Methead"] ="Farmer Ted"]The Baby Daddy is allegedly in MN and going to attend the speech tonight. Yes. Because we should respect the young parents' privacy. This shit makes me crazy. You want to respect their privacy? Then don't run for a huge national office. You might have misunderstood what I was saying there without the sarcasm meter attached. A quote from the statement released by the Palin family: "We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi's privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates"

AG/DC Sep 03 2008 12:13 PM

Well, family members attend funcitons. There's the quesiton is what age they become fair game at. I guess the other question is whether anybody should be considered game at all. Anybody biting at the idea of the baby actually being her grandchild?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 03 2008 12:25 PM

It's not possible, is it? I mean, isn't the baby young enough that he would have been born while Bristol was already pregnant?

Frayed Knot Sep 03 2008 12:40 PM

Baby Trig was born in April, I believe, which was 5 months ago while Bristol is reportedly 5 months pregnant. So maybe it's theoretically possible, though not likely. Some of the blogs/comments I was reading the other day were insistent though, as in; Why isn't the media reporting that this is her SECOND pregnancy?!? Thinking, I guess, that MSNBC et al had joined the vast right-wing conspiracy.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 03 2008 12:45 PM

They're probably many of the same people who thought that Bush was behind the September 11 attacks.

AG/DC Sep 03 2008 12:49 PM Edited 4 time(s), most recently on Sep 03 2008 01:02 PM

You believe that Bristol is five months pregnant? HAH! Two things are possibly true you Kool-Aid Drinker: 1) That they concoted the mother's preganancy to cover Bristol's first pregnancy, then, when she went out and got pregnant again, they were forced to cope with that, but covered their initial lie by stating that she's further along (she's only at three months), to discredit the truthtellers regarding the first pregnancy. 2) She's not pregnant now. She's pretending she's pregnant now as a cover for her post-pregnancy body which would have clued people in to the mother pretending she's pregnant to cover her pregnancy. Essentially, she's pretending she's pregnant as part of her cover story for being pregnant. God, can't you people SEE it?

soupcan Sep 03 2008 12:49 PM

AG/DC wrote: Anybody biting at the idea of the baby actually being her grandchild? I was afraid you'd crawl through the internet tubes and strangle me if I brought that one up.

AG/DC Sep 03 2008 01:00 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 03 2008 01:05 PM

For all I know, it's true. I certainly advocate tossing her overboard if she's living a lie. I also advocate, if it's not true, outrageous amounts of damages in lawsuits against the perpetrators of the lies that have fueled the story. My only ponts were... well, I hope you know.

soupcan Sep 03 2008 01:03 PM

Yes. I think we've all got it by now.

Frayed Knot Sep 03 2008 02:48 PM

Hey, we can always revive the who was REALLY Bill Clinton's father story! The accepted version is that his traveling salesman father - William Jefferson Blythe II - was killed on the road during a rainstorm several months after he returned home from WWII (early 1946). But there is a question as to where he first went upon his military release (remember the guy turned out to have at least two other wives) and exactly WHEN he got back to Arkansas. There's no evidence that he was back in Hope, Ark until some 8 months prior to the birth of William Jefferson Blythe III (later WJ Clinton) leading to speculation that Bill's somewhat flirty mother had hooked up with someone else in the interim. The official story (and probably the accurate one) is that future Prez was simply born a month or so prematurely, But it's a story that reminds me of the time my cousin married his girlfriend in a rather quickly arranged ceremony. GF was, of course, several months pregnant at the time and the watchword around the family was, 'don't tell grandma', figuring why upset the somewhat prim and proper aging matriarch of the whole clan. Grandma was no dummy of course and even sarcastically remarked following the birth of the baby some 7 months after the wedding; 'funny how it's always the first babies who are born prematurely, it's never the second or third ones'.

themetfairy Sep 03 2008 02:52 PM

Statistically, Down's Syndrome babies are more likely to be born to older mothers. So I don't think that Baby Trig is Bristol's.

Nymr83 Sep 03 2008 05:23 PM

FK- i had honestly never heard that Clinton story before. Edgy- your last post is 100% right, but the rules for winning a defamation case are different for a public figure than they are for you or me, she'd almost definitely lose.