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IGT - 9/15 Mets at Nationals

Centerfield Sep 15 2008 10:05 AM

It was in Washington last year that I first felt like they may blow the damn thing. I dub tonight a BIG GAME.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 15 2008 10:06 AM

We need Pedro not to suck. I don't mean, throw a 3-hitter and whiff 10. Just not to suck.

HahnSolo Sep 15 2008 10:10 AM

Agreed. But my confidence in Pedro is pretty much shot. I have a real fear about these four games.

Farmer Ted Sep 15 2008 10:13 AM

It's Darth Vader eve.

metirish Sep 15 2008 10:20 AM

If Pedro can't give a good showing against this team then I fear for this season , still the Nats are sure to be pumped up to face the Mets.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 15 2008 10:29 AM

By the way unlikely that Easley will play tonite or for several days. He tweaked something while costing us Saturday's game with that DP.

metirish Sep 15 2008 10:34 AM

Castillo needs to seize this chance and get back in as a regular.

bmfc1 Sep 15 2008 11:28 AM

[u:7ac48c44e0]Martinez vs. Nationals (lifetime, 5-2, 2.40):[/u:7ac48c44e0] Willie Harris .667, 3 AB Cristian Guzman .333, 21 AB Dmitri Young .313, 16 AB Ryan Langerhans .267, 15 AB Ronnie Belliard .250, 4 AB Aaron Boone .250, 4 AB Pete Orr .143, 14 AB Ryan Zimmerman .000, 6 AB [u:7ac48c44e0]Lannan vs. Mets (lifetime, 0-2, 6.53):[/u:7ac48c44e0] Fernando Tatis 1.000, 2 AB Damion Easley .500, 6 AB Brian Schneider .500, 4 AB Ryan Church .444, 2 HR, 9 AB Carlos Delgado .429, HR, 7 AB Jose Reyes .417, 12 AB Luis Castillo .400, HR, 5 AB David Wright .333, 12 AB Carlos Beltran .250, 8 AB

bmfc1 Sep 15 2008 01:59 PM

Reyes, ss Church, rf Wright, 3b Beltran, cf Delgado, 1b Tatis, lf Castillo, 2b Schneider, c Martinez, rhp

metsmarathon Sep 15 2008 03:46 PM

i [heart] church at the 2

cooby Sep 15 2008 04:46 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: We need Pedro not to suck. I don't mean, throw a 3-hitter and whiff 10. Just not to suck. And he has to personally bat in about 10 runs. More if possible. And pitch a complete game.

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2008 04:50 PM

The good news is that we scored 23 runs on these guys during the most recent two game series. The bad is that we let up 18 in the process. No way should that team be getting 18 runs off anybody much less off a (supposedly) good staff.

metirish Sep 15 2008 05:33 PM

Nats hitting Pedro hard early doors , 1-0 Nats.

mario25 Sep 15 2008 05:37 PM

It is early but Lannan seems to be foolin the fellas

metsguyinmichigan Sep 15 2008 05:39 PM

Doesn't seem like Pedro's gonna last too long, though I hope he was just shaking off some rust there. Seems like Figgy is the designated long guy. Hopefully we won't need him until at least the sixth!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 15 2008 05:42 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: The good news is that we scored 23 runs on these guys during the most recent two game series. The bad is that we let up 18 in the process. No way should that team be getting 18 runs off anybody much less off a (supposedly) good staff. And knowing they did that to Perez and Pelfrey gives one pause over the blood they could shed with 84-mph Pedro out there.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 15 2008 05:46 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 15 2008 05:49 PM

How in the heck is Anderson Hernandez batting .340? What is that, 120 points higher than he did with us?

bmfc1 Sep 15 2008 05:46 PM

How about Castillo's range? He's good for at least six inches, either way!

metsguyinmichigan Sep 15 2008 05:51 PM

The Schneid's been swinging a decent bat for a while now. Decent in relative terms, of course And we have our first run!

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 06:05 PM

Castillo is a good fielder. Let's not fall to the lowest common denominator of beating on the whipping boy.

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 06:06 PM

This guy Lannan ought to win the Cy Young. Sick.

bmfc1 Sep 15 2008 06:19 PM

Did you Castillo on that one? He is awful. I wish he wasn't.

themetfairy Sep 15 2008 06:37 PM

The sound quality of tonight's broadcast is awful. I can hardly make out what Gary and Ron are saying.

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 06:48 PM

Are you hearing a buzzing? I am.

themetfairy Sep 15 2008 06:49 PM

D-Dad says it's that the crowd mike is pumped up too loud.

metirish Sep 15 2008 06:50 PM

themetfairy wrote: D-Dad says it's that the crowd mike is pumped up too loud. Yeah I can hear people in the crowd better , Pedro is doing us a solid tonight.

metirish Sep 15 2008 06:55 PM

Sorry.

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 06:57 PM

Haha I saw that irish. It won't matter. The Mets aren't going to score any more. They're already swinging at all that slop Lannan is throwing. Outside inside up down. 1 fucking hit. Fuck the Mets. I hate baseball. And myself.

KC Sep 15 2008 06:57 PM

My audio is fine tonight. As for this IGT, I'm afraid "it's" happening again. Ya know. "It."

TransMonk Sep 15 2008 06:58 PM

Hey, O...score some runs!

cooby Sep 15 2008 07:02 PM

I think we should stop talking about the game.

mario25 Sep 15 2008 07:03 PM

I sit here stunned watching a team get 1 hit off this piece of trash. It is happening again.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 15 2008 07:05 PM

Chokily-dokily-doo.

cooby Sep 15 2008 07:07 PM

Elster88 wrote: Are you hearing a buzzing? I am. I think it's the grim reaper a'coming.

metirish Sep 15 2008 07:10 PM

cooby wrote: I think we should stop talking about the game. Did you see the Sarah Palin interview from a few years ago?

cooby Sep 15 2008 07:12 PM

Lol, God love her heart! Put her in to pitch.

Fman99 Sep 15 2008 07:17 PM

Eh. Can Sanchez get one out before he dry humps this inning like a homeless pooch?

bmfc1 Sep 15 2008 07:18 PM

Rincon got the first two guys out, right? Would it have been the worst thing to see if he could get Zimmerman even though it's lefty-righty?

mario25 Sep 15 2008 07:18 PM

Sanchez=afraid to throw a strike

mario25 Sep 15 2008 07:19 PM

The good news- Heilman warming in the pen

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2008 07:20 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 15 2008 07:20 PM

Sanchez was the only reliever the other day to have a good outing ... therefore it's his turn to suck today. On edit: and I typed that before the HR

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 07:20 PM

I think we've got a really good core in place for 2009.

Gwreck Sep 15 2008 07:20 PM

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mario25 Sep 15 2008 07:20 PM

Rincon was fine....this team really blows I am done

metirish Sep 15 2008 07:20 PM

Forget it , Phillies must be wetting themselves watching this.

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 07:21 PM

mario25 wrote: Rincon was fine....this team really blows I am done Bye!

bmfc1 Sep 15 2008 07:21 PM

Nice move Jerry.

Fman99 Sep 15 2008 07:21 PM

Fman99 wrote: Eh. Can Sanchez get one out before he dry humps this inning like a homeless pooch? <click>

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 07:21 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: Sanchez was the only reliever the other day to have a good outing ... therefore it's his turn to suck today. On edit: and I typed that before the HR I was thinking he looked good and maybe should get more use. Oh well.

cooby Sep 15 2008 07:21 PM

mario25 wrote: The good news- Heilman warming in the pen Well that should make it all better

mario25 Sep 15 2008 07:22 PM

It is hard to watch game in and game out

metirish Sep 15 2008 07:22 PM

I know it can happen again this season but surely it won't , right?

themetfairy Sep 15 2008 07:22 PM

Just disgusting!

bmfc1 Sep 15 2008 07:23 PM

Jerry has to answer for this inning. Not answer like Ned Yost, but criticized for over managing this inning. What an embarrassment.

bmfc1 Sep 15 2008 07:24 PM

metirish wrote: I know it can happen again this season but surely it won't , right? Maybe the Astros and Brewers will continue to lose and the Mets can back into the WC.

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 07:24 PM

It's not Jerry's fault. And it wasn't Willie's fault last year. 1 hit today. No bullpen any day. What do you want him to do?

holychicken Sep 15 2008 07:24 PM

Why the hell did he not walk dukes? Boone on deck and you have him groove a 3-2 meatball to him? Are you retarded or something? I really don't get it.

metirish Sep 15 2008 07:25 PM

Lannan was superb tonight , Mets O was horrible.

bmfc1 Sep 15 2008 07:26 PM

Elster88 wrote: It's not Jerry's fault. And it wasn't Willie's fault last year. 1 hit today. No bullpen any day. What do you want him to do? The 1 hit isn't his fault and last inning probably won't effect the outcome but I want Jerry to leave a reliever in that got 2 outs in a row to start an inning.

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2008 07:27 PM

It's very appropriate that Mock is pitching on a Monday (only CPF old-timers will get that joke)

mario25 Sep 15 2008 07:28 PM

Schneider 1st pitch swinging down by 6

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2008 07:31 PM

- the problem with leaving in Rincon is that he's never been anything other than a lefty specialist his whole career - the problem with walking Dukes is that you'd be loading the bases and pushing a 2nd run into scoring position where a cheapie single can do almost as much damage as the HR did This game is on the hitters who aren't hitting and on the pitchers who are continually * almost but not quite * getting out of the inning. It's not on Jerry.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 15 2008 07:33 PM

Gack. When I left the school board meeting tonight it was only 2-1. They kill me. Absolutely kill me.

mario25 Sep 15 2008 07:33 PM

A big comeback would make us all forget the first 7 innings

metirish Sep 15 2008 07:33 PM

Keith and Ron killing Mock for throwing off-speed stuff with a six run lead , fine, but I never hear them critical of met pitching in similar situations.

HahnSolo Sep 15 2008 07:33 PM

bmfc1 wrote: ="Elster88"]It's not Jerry's fault. And it wasn't Willie's fault last year. 1 hit today. No bullpen any day. What do you want him to do? The 1 hit isn't his fault and last inning probably won't effect the outcome but I want Jerry to leave a reliever in that got 2 outs in a row to start an inning. Agreed. We search to get outs from somebody, then get them from Rincon and he immediately gets yanked.

TransMonk Sep 15 2008 07:34 PM

Keith: "Garrett Mock earned every bit of that earned run." Classic.

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 07:36 PM

HahnSolo wrote: ="bmfc1"] ="Elster88"]It's not Jerry's fault. And it wasn't Willie's fault last year. 1 hit today. No bullpen any day. What do you want him to do? The 1 hit isn't his fault and last inning probably won't effect the outcome but I want Jerry to leave a reliever in that got 2 outs in a row to start an inning. Agreed. We search to get outs from somebody, then get them from Rincon and he immediately gets yanked. If Rincon had given up a hit to a righty you would've yelled at him for leaving him in. And that kind of thing has happened before this year too plenty of times.

HahnSolo Sep 15 2008 07:36 PM

Don't tease me, Mets.

TransMonk Sep 15 2008 07:37 PM

Hey...is this a rally? Do it David!

cooby Sep 15 2008 07:37 PM

TransMonk wrote: Keith: "Garrett Mock earned every bit of that earned run." Classic. How hard must it be to be Keith and keep your mouth semi-shut? He should be here with us.

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 07:37 PM

How did Castillo hit a double? I had flipped to the football game for that at-bat. Did an outfielder fall down or something?

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2008 07:37 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 15 2008 07:39 PM

metirish wrote: Keith and Ron killing Mock for throwing off-speed stuff with a six run lead , fine, but I never hear them critical of met pitching in similar situations. It's not just that he's throwing off-speed stuff, it's that he's doing so w/a 3-2 count in situations where a walk is the best way to get a team behind by a bunch back into the game.

HahnSolo Sep 15 2008 07:37 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="HahnSolo"] ="bmfc1"] Elster88 wrote: It's not Jerry's fault. And it wasn't Willie's fault last year. 1 hit today. No bullpen any day. What do you want him to do? The 1 hit isn't his fault and last inning probably won't effect the outcome but I want Jerry to leave a reliever in that got 2 outs in a row to start an inning. Agreed. We search to get outs from somebody, then get them from Rincon and he immediately gets yanked. If Rincon had given up a hit to a righty you would've yelled at him for leaving him in. And that kind of thing has happened before this year too plenty of times. One hit, no. Can we give him one righty with 2 outs and nobody on?

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2008 07:38 PM

You gotta be fuckin' kidding me!!!

HahnSolo Sep 15 2008 07:38 PM

That did't even last long enough to be a tease.

TransMonk Sep 15 2008 07:38 PM

wow. this sucks.

Gwreck Sep 15 2008 07:39 PM

Wow. Nice job swinging 2-0 there buddy.

HahnSolo Sep 15 2008 07:39 PM

Oh, look. KC's "It" (as in it's happening again) has just knocked on the door to get reacquainted.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 15 2008 07:39 PM

Rays fans must be feeling it, too. Down 13-1 to Boston.

mario25 Sep 15 2008 07:39 PM

Down a ton of runs you have to take that pitch

metirish Sep 15 2008 07:40 PM

Dickshot's kid is in to pitch.

themetfairy Sep 15 2008 07:44 PM

Bobby Parnell for closer!

mario25 Sep 15 2008 07:47 PM

Anyone who gets 3 outs in an inning should be considered a viable option at this point...Rincon and Parnell just put themselves in the mix....I will ask this Rincon or Feliciano-Schowsus crap???? Parnell or Heilman????

cooby Sep 15 2008 07:47 PM

At this point I'd try Leroy Parnell.

Rockin' Doc Sep 15 2008 07:51 PM

Elster88 wrote: It's not Jerry's fault. And it wasn't Willie's fault last year. 1 hit today. No bullpen any day. What do you want him to do? I believe that Manuel, like WWSB before him, often ovwermanages the lefty/righty matchups and goes through too many pitchers most nights. Still, I have to feel for him when you consider his limited options in the pen. Most any game I can imagine Manuel and Warthen considering their options in the pen. Manuel - "Johan's pitched a hell of a game tonight, but he's up to 112 pitches and I really don't want to wear him out too much tonight. The Braves have a pair of lefties due to open the inning. Who should we send in for the 8th?" Warthen - "Well, you can go with the Show or Feliciano." Manuel - "Great. Show can't get anyone out and Feliciano never gets the first guy he faces. Might as well put Pedro out there while there is no one in scoring position." Feliciano give up a bomb to the first batter. Manuel - "I told you, he never gets the first man he faces. Have Smitty get ready for the righthander." After surviving the 8th without further damage and having burned Smith and Schoeneweis along with Feliciano in the inning, Jerry considers his options for the 9th Manuel - "Now what? We're still up a run. All we need is three outs." Warthen - "Stokes is unavailable after the heavy shelling he took in the 8th last night, but we still have lots of options. Heilman, Sanchez, and Ayala are all rested and ready to pitch the 9th. Manuel - "Just shoot me now."

Rockin' Doc Sep 15 2008 07:55 PM

Slip slidin away Slip slidin away You know the nearer your destination The more youre slip slidin away

SteveJRogers Sep 15 2008 07:55 PM

And Gimpy ends the game for the second night in a row. Good thing he's going to be around for another three years! Okay, new plan, 13 game winning streak to wrap up the season.

cooby Sep 15 2008 07:55 PM

Is it over or is Metfairy being proactive with her POTG?

metsguyinmichigan Sep 15 2008 07:58 PM

Puking. The Nats are close to losing 100 games. This kind of nonsense just can't happen. And I'm talking more about the O than the pen. As for the pen, if the problem is over use .... then lets see the kids and Rincon more. Hell, we still have three roster spots, who is sitting at home after the AAA season ended?

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 07:58 PM

I don't know how she does it but she has the PotG thread usually up the instant the last out is made.

bmfc1 Sep 15 2008 07:58 PM

On the bright side, uh... wait... oh yeah, they had some good swings in the last two innings (other than DW) so maybe that will carry over to tomorrow.

metirish Sep 15 2008 08:16 PM

Jerry talking about giving Parnell another look tomorrow.

themetfairy Sep 15 2008 08:22 PM

cooby wrote: Is it over or is Metfairy being proactive with her POTG? I was preparing it during the 9th, but I didn't post it until the final out.

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2008 08:28 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: And Gimpy ends the game for the second night in a row. Yeah, this game was his fault. Take that shit where they'll lap it up.

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 08:29 PM

Thanks. I couldn't quite figure out how to word it.

Elster88 Sep 15 2008 08:31 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 15 2008 08:32 PM

That reminds me, no one ever explained how Castillo got his double. Did he really hit it hard? Were the outfielders playing ten feet behind the dirt?

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2008 08:32 PM

Liner over SS towards LCF. Didn't make the wall or anything but Milledge had to go sideways a while for it and Castillo just legged it out by a decent margin.

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2008 08:36 PM

btw, that's now 25 runs allowed to these chumps in 3 games.

DocTee Sep 15 2008 08:46 PM

It seems hard to believe that since the Natspos moved to DC, the Mets have taken 25 of 34 games there....seems to me that every time we head there, we have trouble.

SteveJRogers Sep 15 2008 09:25 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]And Gimpy ends the game for the second night in a row. Yeah, this game was his fault. Take that shit where they'll lap it up. Little Frayed tonight FK? Geez, that wasn't meant to imply anything, I was just remarking that Castillo made the last out in the last two games.

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2008 09:31 PM

NO, it was bashing the easy target (complete w/stupid nickname) because him being the culprit is the pre-arranged story-line and whether it's true or not is a non-issue. Go sell it somewhere else where there are eager buyers.

metirish Sep 16 2008 04:27 AM

Castillo made a very nifty play on defense early in the game to start a DP.At the time a huge play.

SteveJRogers Sep 16 2008 06:13 AM

="Frayed Knot"]NO, it was bashing the easy target (complete w/stupid nickname) because him being the culprit is the pre-arranged story-line and whether it's true or not is a non-issue. Go sell it somewhere else where there are eager buyers. Yeah cause there aren't any derrisive nicknames for struggling Mets around here. And again, how was what I said blaming the last two losses on him, I was just stating the obvious in a factual statement.

cooby Sep 16 2008 06:25 AM

SteveJRogers wrote: Yeah cause there aren't any derrisive nicknames for struggling Mets around here. Actually, there is very little of that (none to speak of). That is the #1 reason why I no longer read one other forum I could name, and the #2 reason why I no longer read another forum I could name.

metirish Sep 16 2008 06:30 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 16 2008 06:46 AM

Especially now that Nightcrawler is out for the season.

Frayed Knot Sep 16 2008 06:45 AM

]I was just stating the obvious in a factual statement. Right, the coincidence of him making the last out was why you brought this up in the first place. And it's why you just happened to throw in the stupid nickname and the contract to boot, as if any of this is even the slightest bit relevant in a game where he got on base twice more than Wright, Beltran & Delgado combined and the staff gave up 5 two-out runs.

SteveJRogers Sep 16 2008 08:38 AM

Frayed Knot wrote: ]I was just stating the obvious in a factual statement. Right, the coincidence of him making the last out was why you brought this up in the first place. And it's why you just happened to throw in the stupid nickname and the contract to boot, as if any of this is even the slightest bit relevant in a game where he got on base twice more than Wright, Beltran & Delgado combined and the staff gave up 5 two-out runs. You are putting WAY too much stock in a piffy, innocuous statement written in frustration. Of course if it had been Murphy, or even Jose Reyes who made the final outs of both games I would not have made a comment about their future with the team (or Reyes' big contract). But because it was Castillio who has had a bad, injury riddled year, been given butt kisses all year by the SNY commentators, and will be with this team for three more seasons, yeah my comment had some edge to it. It wasn't meant to lay the blame of the games, or the past week at his feet.

metirish Sep 16 2008 08:42 AM

Rogers has an Edge...

Frayed Knot Sep 16 2008 09:41 AM

"You are putting WAY too much stock in a piffy, innocuous statement written in frustration" Only because said statement was stupid, inaccurate, and played to the wrong audience. Other than that it was fine. "But because it was Castillio who has had a bad, injury riddled year, been given butt kisses all year by the SNY commentators Again, save that shit for those whose paranoia rivals the folks walking around with tinfoil hats believing tha 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' was a documentary. "and will be with this team for three more seasons" Or not.

SteveJRogers Sep 16 2008 10:39 AM

="Frayed Knot"]"But because it was Castillio who has had a bad, injury riddled year, been given butt kisses all year by the SNY commentators Again, save that shit for those whose paranoia rivals the folks walking around with tinfoil hats believing tha 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' was a documentary. Oh, so Gary Cohen has NOT become a complete jock sniffing corporate Yes Man since joining the TV booth, and specifically when it comes to Luis Castillo, who is performing quite Roberto Alomar-esque since he came here?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 16 2008 10:43 AM

Jeter. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

DocTee Sep 16 2008 10:57 AM

I believe the proper terms is Alomarian, not Alomaresque.

Rockin' Doc Sep 16 2008 11:04 AM

metirish - "Rogers has an Edge..." Jeter sold it to him.

KC Sep 16 2008 11:38 AM

JCL: Jeter. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.<<< He's like that little freakin' battery bunny comin' around corners banging on that silly drum.