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IGT Cubs @ Mets, 09/25/08

bmfc1 Sep 25 2008 02:01 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 25 2008 03:54 PM

New York Mets Reyes, ss Murphy, lf Wright, 3b Delgado, 1b Beltran, cf Church, rf Martinez, 2b Cancel, c Martinez, rhp Chicago Cubs Pie, lf Theriot, ss Hoffpauir, 1b Edmonds, cf Fontenot, 2b McGehee, 3b Fukudome, rf Hill, c Harden, p

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 02:03 PM

Facing Harden tonight, who's great while he's in there but throws as many pitches as Ollie getting through 5 and rarely last much longer. Plus Lou has no incentive to push him any longer. I half-expected an Endy for Church switch.

G-Fafif Sep 25 2008 02:13 PM

I may have to change Ramon Martinez's nickname from Afterthought. I swear when he came up last night, it was the first I remembered his being on the team since he did such a swell job pinch-running last week.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 25 2008 02:13 PM

Must we do this? Instead of playing baseball, can't the Mets and the Cubs all go to the mall together and have a nice dinner in the food court?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 25 2008 02:14 PM

G-Fafif wrote: I may have to change Ramon Martinez's nickname from Afterthought. Argenis Reyes gets his first hit in about five weeks and the next day he's booted from the lineup. He must be wondering, "What more do they want from me?"

holychicken Sep 25 2008 02:15 PM

I wish I could just ignore it. Why can't I just ignore it? I just want to stop paying attention. That's all. Why won't I let myself do that? Do I have some kind of problem? Is it multiple problems?

soupcan Sep 25 2008 02:20 PM

Multiple. And I got 'em too.

G-Fafif Sep 25 2008 02:20 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Must we do this? Instead of playing baseball, can't the Mets and the Cubs all go to the mall together and have a nice dinner in the food court? I don't know if the chain or the mall still exist, but when the phrase food court comes up, I think of Taco Viva at the 163rd Street Mall in Miami Beach.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 25 2008 02:39 PM

I won't be able to ignore it as much as I'd like to. I'll be checking in on the score but I'm NOT going to sit and watch this game. An inning or two at most, but that's IT.

themetfairy Sep 25 2008 02:52 PM

I'll be at middle school back to school night tonight. The one thing in this world that's possibly more tortuous than the Mets.

themetfairy Sep 25 2008 02:57 PM

G-Fafif wrote: ="Benjamin Grimm"]Must we do this? Instead of playing baseball, can't the Mets and the Cubs all go to the mall together and have a nice dinner in the food court? I don't know if the chain or the mall still exist, but when the phrase food court comes up, I think of Taco Viva at the 163rd Street Mall in Miami Beach. Apparently [url=http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/360/]Taco Viva is a thing of the past[/url].

HahnSolo Sep 25 2008 02:59 PM

2 hour Survivor Premiere. Plus I think we get a new Office as well. You know, in case you're looking for other alternatives.

bmfc1 Sep 25 2008 03:53 PM

Cancel (not Castro) replaces Schneider in the lineup. See the revised first post. No Derrek Lee. No Alfonso Soriano. No Aramis Ramirez.

KC Sep 25 2008 04:19 PM

I'm gonna watch, watch parts of the Brewers game too I imagine. I'm not on the Survivor boat, I'm on the Mets boat -- and I have multiple pro- blems -- but the Mets aren't one of them. Win quick, the rain's coming and so is a doubleheader somewhere down the line so I'd really like to not see the pen. Actually, you'll all see through that because none of us want to see the pen.

cooby Sep 25 2008 04:28 PM

themetfairy wrote: I'll be at middle school back to school night tonight. The one thing in this world that's possibly more tortuous than the Mets. Met fairy, it is quite obvious to me that you have never been to either a dance recital or a elementary school Christmas program. If the Mets continue to lose out the season, I will comfort myself with the thought that neither of those events will ever take up any of my time again. Small comfort, I know.

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 04:49 PM

I'd be surprised if it's not raining within the hour.

metirish Sep 25 2008 05:06 PM

Anyone else been hearing the car commercial with a female singing Bowie's Space Oddity , who is the singer?

bmfc1 Sep 25 2008 05:08 PM

It's Cat Power. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_JGDO3X87g

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 05:12 PM

The Brewers can't be happy about that Cubs lineup -- especially if they don't get a similar one this weekend.

mario25 Sep 25 2008 05:18 PM

Please let it rain...Pedro being shelled early

mario25 Sep 25 2008 05:19 PM

Throwing in the 70's range

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 05:28 PM

David comes through with the sacrifice about 20 hours too late. (Ya, I'll take what I can get, buddy.)

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 05:38 PM

It's cool that Church gets a gift there. He needed it in the worst way. I was just thinking how appropriate his theme song applies: Mental wounds not healing Life's a bitter shame I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 05:41 PM

And Ryan asks for too much and goes off the rails with a caught stealing.

Willets Point Sep 25 2008 05:46 PM

Is Lenny drunk?

OlerudOwned Sep 25 2008 05:46 PM

Willets Point wrote: Is Lenny drunk? If he's lucky.

mario25 Sep 25 2008 05:47 PM

Pedro being battered by the cubs "B" team. I think Pedro needs to hang em up

bmfc1 Sep 25 2008 05:50 PM

Get him the F out of there.

Willets Point Sep 25 2008 05:53 PM

KKKKK

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 05:55 PM

I think our options are thin. This is Pedro's last start as a... well, maybe as anything. He's making some of these guys look stupid --- just not Hoffpauier, sadly.

Willets Point Sep 25 2008 05:57 PM

KKKKKK

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 06:01 PM

Lineup turned over. We want to get these guys ealier rather than later.

cooby Sep 25 2008 06:01 PM

Who is Lenny?

Valadius Sep 25 2008 06:02 PM

David Wright's RBI in the first inning tied him with Mike Piazza for the Mets record for RBIs in a season, with 124.

mario25 Sep 25 2008 06:04 PM

Who would have thought at the beginning of the year we would be fighting for a playoff spot with Dan Murphy in LF, Robinson Cancel at C, and Ramon Martinez at 2B

cooby Sep 25 2008 06:05 PM

Nobody, if we'd have known that.

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 06:09 PM

cooby wrote: Who is Lenny?

cooby Sep 25 2008 06:10 PM

Okay, somebody please say what the score is, the inning we are in, and the situation. THank you.

mario25 Sep 25 2008 06:11 PM

3-1 cubs bottom 3rd 1out Wright on 1b with BB

cooby Sep 25 2008 06:12 PM

Ouch. But thank you Mario :) Is that your real name? I love that name.

mario25 Sep 25 2008 06:13 PM

Yes, and thank you

mario25 Sep 25 2008 06:15 PM

We need some Church up in here....

mario25 Sep 25 2008 06:16 PM

Can I get an AMEN????

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 06:16 PM

AMEN!

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 06:17 PM

Oh, and cooby: Two-run double by Church ties the game at three. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2008_09_25_chnmlb_nynmlb_1&mode=gameday We go to the fifth.

bmfc1 Sep 25 2008 06:18 PM

How can we concentrate on the game when there's breaking news from Topdot!

cooby Sep 25 2008 06:18 PM

Allright!! Witness!!

OlerudOwned Sep 25 2008 06:19 PM

mario25 Sep 25 2008 06:21 PM

Awesome....Signage

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 06:29 PM

Hey! Just getting here. Church got the big hit?? Sweet!

mario25 Sep 25 2008 06:47 PM

More Church ???

metirish Sep 25 2008 06:57 PM

Possibly Pedro's last time walking of the mound as a Met , SNY didn't bother showing it.

cooby Sep 25 2008 06:59 PM

:( Well maybe they don't think it will be

metirish Sep 25 2008 07:00 PM

Rincon's first pitch is returned for a three run bomb....see ya

OlerudOwned Sep 25 2008 07:00 PM

mario25 Sep 25 2008 07:02 PM

Deep down maybe it is best the Mets miss out...the Cubs will probably clobber us in the playoffs....Believe me it hurts to say it

mario25 Sep 25 2008 07:04 PM

Send Rincon back to the Mexican league SI....

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 07:14 PM

metirish wrote: Rincon's first pitch is returned for a three run bomb....see ya Not for nothing, but isn't Smith still the best bet in the seventh with men on?

mario25 Sep 25 2008 07:16 PM

YES- I would say Smith or Stokes as the "crossover guy" as Manuel would say

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 07:17 PM

I never thought we'd find someone fatter than Castro. I don't like Anderson hitting here.

mario25 Sep 25 2008 07:18 PM

Will Marlon get a hit this season???

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 07:18 PM

Cancel showing heart is something.

mario25 Sep 25 2008 07:21 PM

Marlon should not be asked off the bench for the rest of the games left....

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 07:22 PM

I'd argue that the results of an at-bat rarely show either heart or a lack of heart. Unless by showing heart you mean swinging the bat.

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 07:23 PM

One run back. Am I mad or are some low strikes called? Everything is failing for me at MLB and I'm using ESPN Gamecast.

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 07:24 PM

Elster88 wrote: I'd argue that the results of an at-bat rarely show either heart or a lack of heart. Unless by showing heart you mean swinging the bat. I don't know what transpired, just the result.

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 07:25 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 25 2008 07:26 PM

He did hit a rope in the gap. He's not quitting, which is admirable, albeit expected.

themetfairy Sep 25 2008 07:25 PM

Willets Point wrote: Is Lenny drunk? Is Lenny ever NOT drunk? During the 1986 reunion we didn't think he'd make it to his Number 4.

cooby Sep 25 2008 07:36 PM

I hope none of us are there tonight

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 07:40 PM

I think Young David is growing a Metbeard.

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 07:41 PM

Young David has placed two Carloses (0-5 tonight) in a game-tying position.

mario25 Sep 25 2008 07:42 PM

Not anymore sadly

metirish Sep 25 2008 07:43 PM

Keith , that's not the Mets not catching a break......it's a DP...

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 07:47 PM

3 hits in the inning, no runs so far.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 07:49 PM

Ramon Martinez keeps getting up in big situations.

cooby Sep 25 2008 07:52 PM

Ho, ho!

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 07:52 PM

Yes!

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 07:53 PM

Uno mas, hermanos!

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 07:53 PM

Isn't this a pinch-hit sit?

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 07:54 PM

SLIDE OF THE YEAR!!!!

Nymr83 Sep 25 2008 07:54 PM

they are just teasing us before another devastating loss.

metirish Sep 25 2008 07:55 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: SLIDE OF THE YEAR!!!! Unbelievable..... Martinez and Cancel...who knew...

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 07:55 PM

Foli Shit!!

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 07:55 PM

YES!!! I BELIEVE!!!!!

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 07:56 PM

WOWOWOW. It's gonna be hard to explain that one to Edgy.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 07:56 PM

I'm following along on the net. What was the deal with the slide?

cooby Sep 25 2008 07:57 PM

Where is Zvon tonigjt?

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 07:58 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I'm following along on the net. What was the deal with the slide? Throw beat him by 15 ft - but the catcher was on his knees so Church twisted around him then dove back towards the plate just sneaking the hand in before a lunging tag.

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 07:58 PM

Elster88 wrote: WOWOWOW. It's gonna be hard to explain that one to Edgy. Try.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 07:58 PM

OK, who comes in for the ninth? Ayala went two last night.

Valadius Sep 25 2008 07:58 PM

I love the Mets.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 07:59 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: ="metsguyinmichigan"]I'm following along on the net. What was the deal with the slide? Throw beat him by 15 ft - but the catcher was on his knees so Church twisted around him then dove back towards the plate just sneaking the hand in before a lunging tag. AWESOME!!!!!

cooby Sep 25 2008 08:00 PM

Valadius wrote: I love the Mets. You could name your kitty Rusty

mario25 Sep 25 2008 08:02 PM

Dont they know by now Feliciano cant get the first guy out ever?

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 08:03 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: OK, who comes in for the ninth? Ayala went two last night. Mix & match for now. Baseball Prospectus article today showing how the Mets pen had BY FAR the largest platoon differential when pitchers threw to their opposites: (LHPs to RHBs and vice versa). Feliciano gives up a seeing-eye single and here comes the signal for Smith. No more LHPs left anymore.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 08:03 PM

cooby wrote: ="Valadius"]I love the Mets. You could name your kitty Rusty Mine is named "Tug." Stinking Feliciano. He should just wave the first batter he faces to first and save us all time.

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 08:04 PM

In this case, it was a dinky ground ball that just found a hole.

cooby Sep 25 2008 08:06 PM

Bunt it foul, dirtbag!

themetfairy Sep 25 2008 08:08 PM

cooby wrote: I hope none of us are there tonight Greg's there.

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 08:09 PM

Nymr83 wrote: they are just teasing us before another devastating loss. Smell my feet.

Nymr83 Sep 25 2008 08:11 PM

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 08:12 PM

Ward's a classic feast or famine hitter.

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 08:12 PM

Smith facing lefties is asking for the d&g.

mario25 Sep 25 2008 08:13 PM

Huge outs by Smith!!!!

metirish Sep 25 2008 08:13 PM

Good presence of mind form Smith to take his time and make sure of that ball.

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 08:13 PM

OK, top of the order. Let's make this a quick one.

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 08:13 PM

Yiiiii!

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 08:14 PM

SUPER JOE!!!!!!!!! NOW IS OUR TIME! Top of the order. Big bats. Mets, SHOW ME YOU WANT THIS!!!

KC Sep 25 2008 08:14 PM

LET'S

cooby Sep 25 2008 08:15 PM

I hope this is worth staying up late for!

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 08:15 PM

KC wrote: LET'S score a fuckin' run!!!!

bmfc1 Sep 25 2008 08:15 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 25 2008 08:15 PM

GO

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 08:15 PM

GO

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 08:16 PM

KAMETS!

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 08:19 PM

AG/DC wrote: ="Nymr83"]they are just teasing us before another devastating loss. Smell my feet. I have no idea why that cracked me up so much but it did. I'm punchy.

cooby Sep 25 2008 08:20 PM

we are all holding our collective breaths, aren't we?

Nymr83 Sep 25 2008 08:20 PM

Reyes leads it off with a hard-won single, was that 7 pitches? come on Murphy!

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 08:21 PM

I think he's gonna steal second. Or distract Hart.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 25 2008 08:22 PM

bifl

Nymr83 Sep 25 2008 08:22 PM

i don't like bunting on a 2-0 count.

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 08:22 PM

You know what? Murphy........can't........bunt.

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 08:23 PM

He just bunted at three out of four straight balls and got lucky that one wasn't called a strike.

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 08:24 PM

Make that four out of five.

Nymr83 Sep 25 2008 08:24 PM

yay a fucking strike out bunting!!!

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 08:24 PM

Another, "You gotta be kidding me" moment.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 08:25 PM

Why was h bunting? He hits well and Jose can get his own butt to second without the sac.

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 08:25 PM

BUNTING...

Rockin' Doc Sep 25 2008 08:25 PM

BIFL. Nothing like just giving the other team an out.

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 08:25 PM

He's thrown like one fucking ball over the plate this whole inning.

seawolf17 Sep 25 2008 08:26 PM

Come on, David, just strike out and get it over with so Carlos can get a shot.

SteveJRogers Sep 25 2008 08:26 PM

Come on Davey.

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 08:27 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 25 2008 08:29 PM

Someone missed a sign there somewhere. Jerry clearly wasn't pleased.

seawolf17 Sep 25 2008 08:27 PM

FUCKING HELL, David.

Nymr83 Sep 25 2008 08:27 PM

wright goes down swinging and reyes steals 2nd without a throw. do they walk delgado? i say they have to

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 08:28 PM

This pitcher has a 6.75 ERA.

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 08:28 PM

I don't think he threw Wright a strike either. I like the IW here. Beltran's a better average hitter and all we need is a single here.

Rockin' Doc Sep 25 2008 08:29 PM

Beltran, make them pay for their lack of respect.

KC Sep 25 2008 08:29 PM

We'll have to hear more about that whole Murphy up there bunting thing. I think the young man was confused or the third base coach is a dick or a combo of both. Ugly swing there by Wright.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 25 2008 08:30 PM

Jeezus H, we did it

KC Sep 25 2008 08:30 PM

That being said ... Mets win

SteveJRogers Sep 25 2008 08:30 PM

BOOKS!

themetfairy Sep 25 2008 08:30 PM

Yes!

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 08:30 PM

CAAARRRRRRRRRLOOOOOOOOOOOOS

seawolf17 Sep 25 2008 08:31 PM

THANK YOU, DERREK LEE!

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 08:31 PM

DO-RE-MI SIMPLE AS A-B-C

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 08:31 PM

I bet they pitch around Beltran to get to Church.

metirish Sep 25 2008 08:31 PM

Mets heroes all over the place tonight...

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 08:31 PM

YES!! What happened?

Rockin' Doc Sep 25 2008 08:31 PM

Quick, someone get that man a beer.

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 08:32 PM

WHERE ARE YOU AT NYMR

apmorris Sep 25 2008 08:32 PM

Nymr83 Sep 25 2008 08:33 PM

seawolf17 wrote: THANK YOU, DERREK LEE! Lee didn't play today, that was Micah Hoffpauir

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 08:33 PM

Sweet! (Obviously my game tracker is behind you guys) BELTRAN!!!! And the Pirates have a man on first!

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 08:33 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Jeezus H, we did it Where in the blazes have YOU been?

bmfc1 Sep 25 2008 08:33 PM

Sweet relief.

metirish Sep 25 2008 08:33 PM

Nymr83 Sep 25 2008 08:33 PM

Elster88 wrote: WHERE ARE YOU AT NYMR listening to the brewers on mlb.com radio

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 25 2008 08:34 PM

="AG/DC"] ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Jeezus H, we did it Where in the blazes have YOU been? I refused to "Get Up" after that debacle last night in my last visit to Shea. I said, hey fuckers, get me up.

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 08:34 PM

TU ERES AQUIIIIIIIIIIIII

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 08:39 PM

Just saw the video of the slide. WOW!!! Could he have been called for going out of the baseline?

Valadius Sep 25 2008 08:41 PM

I love this team.

KC Sep 25 2008 08:47 PM

mgim: Could he have been called for going out of the baseline<<< Funny grey area there, except down the first baseline. He squirmed and dove back and made it. I think it's about avoiding a tag and not running out of the way of one but someone here will likely have a better answer.

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 08:48 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 25 2008 08:51 PM

avi

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 08:49 PM

="KC"]mgim: Could he have been called for going out of the baseline<<< Funny grey area there, except down the first baseline. He squirmed and dove back and made it. I think it's about avoiding a tag and not running out of the way of one but someone here will likely have a better answer. Isn't three feet the rule? I think the rule is that the runner establishes a line as he runs and then can't deviate from that line by more than 3 feet. But that might be dated information.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2008 08:51 PM

It would take an umpire with huge stones to have called him out for that.

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2008 08:53 PM

Elster's answer is pretty much on target. Because you're coming towards home somewhat from the direction of the dugout rather than 3rd base that is your line and Church's dodge around the catcher was barely off from that. The fact that he ran past it and then came back to slap the base isn't a problem.

KC Sep 25 2008 08:56 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 25 2008 08:58 PM

Yeah, and it wasn't terribly blatant. And Elster, you don't have to avi stuff. We all know you're a meanie with a type-delayed conscience lol. OE: didn't read FK's post

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 08:57 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: It would take an umpire with huge stones to have called him out for that. Hello, I'm Angel Hernandez.

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 08:59 PM

Hey, I'm not mean I just tell it like it is. Except when I'm being mean lol.

KC Sep 25 2008 09:01 PM

I'm just joking, avi.

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 09:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 25 2008 09:12 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: It would take an umpire with huge stones to have called him out for that. I think it actually would've been the wrong call by the rules in this case. Not that that ever stopped Angel either.

holychicken Sep 25 2008 09:05 PM

I get to sleep well tonight. Thank you for throwing me this little bone, my dearest Mets. Until you next break my heart, au revoir!

Rockin' Doc Sep 25 2008 09:14 PM

According to the official rules of MLB: 7.08 Any runner is out when— (a) (1) He runs more than three feet away from his baseline to avoid being tagged unless his action is to avoid interference with a fielder fielding a batted ball. A runner’s baseline is established when the tag attempt occurs and is a straight line from the runner to the base he is attempting to reach safely... I'd say Elster is correct in his interpretation.

Gwreck Sep 25 2008 09:36 PM

All I can say is thank you [insert deity of choice]! That and I'm glad to be home and dry. Pedro did a point/wave to both sides of the stadium. I think he was aware that it could be his last start, ever. I was thinking that both Cancel and Martinez should have been hit for. Guess not. I also thought that Aguayo was an idiot for sending Church and was screaming "nooooo!" even before Church's great side. Bunting is for losers and I agree that Jose could've just stolen that base himself. No need to bunt with Murphy up there. Hell, if we *really* needed to bunt, he should've just put Endy up.

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 09:42 PM

Risk/reward ratio sure seemed more in our favor by just sending Reyes -- or hit-and-running. And, um, Ricardo Rincon? What's that about? Just how deep and dark a doghouse is Aaron Heilman in right now?

Elster88 Sep 25 2008 10:02 PM

I didn't even think of him. I like him and feel bad.

AG/DC Sep 25 2008 10:09 PM

He got only one of the pen's 15 2/3 innings this series.