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Frayed Knot
Oct 10 2008 12:00 PM

Game 1: 8:something tonight first pitch in the St Pete dingy dome

Matsuzaka vs Scott Shields

Mike Lowell (hip) is out of the series for Boston

metirish
Oct 10 2008 12:08 PM

This is a TBS game?

Frayed Knot
Oct 10 2008 12:15 PM

Yes, the AL games will all be on TBS and the NL all on FOX

Centerfield
Oct 10 2008 12:41 PM

I can't believe this is just starting now. If the schedule is going to be this protracted, you might as well make the Divisional Series seven games.

SteveJRogers
Oct 10 2008 10:11 PM

Red Sox win 2-0.

Matsuzaka with a no-no through 7, despite walking the bases loaded in the 1st!

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2008 06:03 AM

Through 6 with that no-hitter actually. Crawford singled on the 2nd pitch of the 7th.

Matsuzaka is a good pitcher but geez he's a chore to watch. Not surprising that he was part of a 2-0 game that still managed to go 3-1/2 hours.

Papelbon doesn't help either. I timed some of his pitches last night and he was taking 30-40 seconds between each, and that was with the bases empty.
Every Spring the league starts yapping about how they're going to enforce the time-limit per pitch rule and every year it doesn't happen. Not that I expect them to start in a playoff series but I'm sure Papelbon didn't just invent this pace for last night.

soupcan
Oct 11 2008 10:24 AM

Did you guys know this?

I had no idea until I saw him in the dugout last night.


soupcan
Oct 11 2008 11:41 AM

New York Times:
]MADDON RECALLS METS

The 2008 Rays have often been compared to the 1969 Mets, a team that won a championship after seven straight losing seasons. The Rays endured 10 straight losing seasons before winning 97 games and reaching the A.L.C.S.

When the Mets were making their dash to their first World Series title, Joe Maddon was a 15-year-old living in Hazelton, Pa. Maddon was a St. Louis Cardinals fan, but he monitored the Mets, too.

“I followed it very closely on WOR, watched ‘Kiner’s Korner’ every night,” Maddon said. He added, “I was a big fan, actually.”

Maddon recalled that the Mets had a powerful rotation, a strong bullpen and resilience. “The biggest thing obviously was that they kept beating the odds and that they continued to move forward obviously from the meager past that they had,” he said.

Maddon also fondly recalled Karl Ehrhardt, the fan who was known for holding up signs with catchy phrases.

“Primarily, you know what you remember from that most of all when you watch those games on television,” Maddon said. “You remember the guy that held up the signs. The guy that was the sign guy. I mean, you always waited for the TV guy to break to the sign guy to give you the message for the day. And a lot of it was about believing, obviously.”

Willets Point
Oct 11 2008 12:09 PM

Further playing career notes should include: "His walk-off home run versus the Giants in June 1980 most likely inspired Willets Point to a lifelong love of the Mets."

AG/DC
Oct 11 2008 12:28 PM

soupcan wrote:
Did you guys know this?

I had no idea until I saw him in the dugout last night.


I keep that thread going, man. It's all in there.

SteveJRogers
Oct 11 2008 01:44 PM

Bogar and Zimmer are your other ex-Mets on the bench for Maddon.

Quite a collection spanning the eras of Met futility!

soupcan
Oct 11 2008 01:47 PM

AG/DC wrote:
I keep that thread going, man. It's all in there.


Yes you do. My bad.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2008 04:30 PM
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Game 2, 8:00 tonight
Kazmir v Beckett

SteveJRogers
Oct 11 2008 07:52 PM

CLIFF!

Kaboom.

Rays 5-3, through 4.

SteveJRogers
Oct 11 2008 07:53 PM

Dustin Pedroia with his second homer of the day, now 5-4 Rays.

Rockin' Doc
Oct 11 2008 08:52 PM

Ellsbury demonstrating yet another reason that bunting is for losers as he fouls one off the bill of his batting helmet. Lucky he didn't hurt himself.

Fman99
Oct 11 2008 09:08 PM

8-7 in the 6th. This game will be on for many hours still.

Frayed Knot
Oct 12 2008 08:33 AM

Fman99 wrote:
8-7 in the 6th. This game will be on for many hours still.


About 5-1/2 as it turned out.

At least it was a Saturday so the game was started at a decent time rather than end at some outrageous hour of the mor ...
Oh wait!

One of these days the head honchos will realize that they're shooting themselves in the foot by opting for increased up-front money in exchange letting TV dictate the starting times ... but I'm not holding my breath until that point.



Neither starter was good.
Something's wrong with Beckett although no one will say what.
And while Kazmir obviously has talent and is still only 24 I'm starting to doubt his future as a real ace. His slider is only so-so and his penchant for walks, high pitch counts and HRs is going to get him into trouble. Given 5 runs in the first 4 innings he couldn't get through the 5th.

SteveJRogers
Oct 12 2008 09:21 AM

Frayed Knot wrote:

And while Kazmir obviously has talent and is still only 24 I'm starting to doubt his future as a real ace. His slider is only so-so and his penchant for walks, high pitch counts and HRs is going to get him into trouble. Given 5 runs in the first 4 innings he couldn't get through the 5th.


They said the same thing about Ryan.

Still easily the worse trade in Met history.

Frayed Knot
Oct 12 2008 11:12 AM

Well then fortunately for me I am neither worried about what "they" say nor am I
trying to justify the trade.

My point was that, while Ryan did become a much better pitcher in his thirties than he
ever was in his twenties, in addition to his fastball he also had a devastating secondary
pitch and one of the strongest bodies around that allowed him to go deep into games and
pitch-counts.
Kazmir has neither of those.

That doesn't mean he's not good or can't improve, it means I have doubts about him
becoming the kind of top-flight pitcher that Ryan (occasionally) was.
Even Nolan, despite his inclusion on that All-Century team stuff, was more there on account of
popularity generated by his occasional spectatular-ness and wasn't on the level of the pitchers
he was grouped in with.

AG/DC
Oct 12 2008 02:17 PM

Wow, on what planet did they live when they chose him over Seaver?

Frayed Knot
Oct 13 2008 11:42 AM

[u:4449306c8c]Game 3, 4:00[/u:4449306c8c]

Lester vs Garza

SteveJRogers
Oct 13 2008 12:57 PM

AG/DC wrote:
Wow, on what planet did they live when they chose him over Seaver?


Simple really, the fans voted. Ryan is very Ruthian in the way he has been marketed, especially since he became a Ranger during the explosion of the memorabilia craze.

SteveJRogers
Oct 13 2008 12:58 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Game 3, 4:00

Lester vs Garza


Surprised this is the early evening game. Guess they'd rather have quasi prime-time in the West Coast markets.

Frayed Knot
Oct 13 2008 02:58 PM

I'd like to think that it was a common-sense decision made with weather (NE vs SoCal) and time zones (EDT v PDT) in mind, but more likely it was a pre-arranged deal where the higher paying network (FOX in this case w/the NL series) gets the prime time slot while TBS gets banished to the afternoon.

Frayed Knot
Oct 13 2008 05:56 PM

3R HRs from Upton and Baldelli are about to put the Rays up a game.

Gwreck
Oct 13 2008 06:55 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
I'd like to think that it was a common-sense decision made with weather (NE vs SoCal) and time zones (EDT v PDT) in mind, but more likely it was a pre-arranged deal where the higher paying network (FOX in this case w/the NL series) gets the prime time slot while TBS gets banished to the afternoon.


Maybe it's because they aren't going to start a game at 1:30 PDT?

metirish
Oct 14 2008 07:35 AM

TBS hyped Lester to the gills during the pre-game and in the first innings , it was way over the top stuff , yes Lester is a good story but when you start digging up silly stats that place Lester in the company of Christy Mathewson and Waite Hoyt then you are asking for trouble.

IIRC and I think I am then the stat stated that Lester has pitched 19+ scoreless innings in this post-season so far....not that he has not been scored on in his first 19 post-season innings but his last 19....it was silly.

Frayed Knot
Oct 14 2008 08:32 AM

Networks using small samples and pretending they paint large pictures is par for the course.


[u:2181a86d96]Game 4 - 8:00[/u:2181a86d96]

Game 4 is always a biggie in these series. At the end the series is either dead even or practically over.

And it's Boston who needs to get back into things and are depending on the erratic flutterball of Tim Wakefield to do it. That usually means no Varitek too although these days his bat isn't bringing much anyway.

Andy Sonnenstine (13-9, 4.38) for the Rays.

Frayed Knot
Oct 14 2008 07:55 PM

The rout is on and the defending champs are in deep doo-doo.

themetfairy
Oct 14 2008 08:01 PM

It's time to invoke the Mercy Rule.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 14 2008 08:06 PM

Oh, my.

seawolf17
Oct 14 2008 08:21 PM

Ha! Suck it, Red Sox.

Frayed Knot
Oct 14 2008 08:29 PM

Don't throw dirt on them too quickly, they were down 3 games to 1 last year also.

11-2 Rays heading to the 8th.

SteveJRogers
Oct 14 2008 08:30 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Networks using small samples and pretending they paint large pictures is par for the course.


What was more amazing is that before last night's game Yahoo Sports had some Yahoo talking with the Red Sox about how they had no regrets not pulling the trigger on the Lester for Santana deal!

Yeah, I'm sure with Beckett hurting, and despite his troubles in Octobers past, the Sox wouldn't love to have Santana on the mound right now.

Bottom line though about that story, you can say that easily only if Santana had a injury riddled or ineffective season, or even both. Johan Santana clearly did not, and did all he could to get the Mets into October, it just wasn't enough in the end.

SteveJRogers
Oct 14 2008 08:33 PM

Hey, Val must be happy, Mike Timlin just tied Mariano Rivera with the most appearances in postseason history! No doubt he'll break that record tomorrow night or if the series gets back to Tampa.

Why yes I'll be cracking jokes at Val's expense on the issue of MFYs holding any sort of record for a little while longer.

SteveJRogers
Oct 14 2008 08:35 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Don't throw dirt on them too quickly, they were down 3 games to 1 last year also.

11-2 Rays heading to the 8th.


I was just thinking that earlier, the Sox have them "right where they want them!"

Though last year they had the advantage of Games 6 and 7 in Fenway.

Rockin' Doc
Oct 15 2008 05:02 AM

Playing at Fenway doesn't appear to be offering much advantage for the Sox against the Rays.

holychicken
Oct 15 2008 06:30 AM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Don't throw dirt on them too quickly, they were down 3 games to 1 last year also.

11-2 Rays heading to the 8th.

In fact, 2 times in the last 3 post seasons they have done it . . . and in both times they had one game left at home and then 2 on the road.

Red Sox have got them right where they want them.

metirish
Oct 15 2008 06:52 AM

Not a fun series to watch at all , Tampa are just too good for the Sox.


I won't miss Fuck Martinez in the booth either.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 15 2008 07:03 AM

I haven't been watching at all, so somebody has to tell me:

Are the Rays good enough to beat the Phillies?

That's all I care about.

metirish
Oct 15 2008 07:06 AM

Yes they are , in fact I think that would be a great series. Tampa are pretty much a complete team. I would give them the edge in pitching , starting and bullpen , hitting might be closer but overall I would think Tampa will win.

metirish
Oct 15 2008 07:24 AM

One more thing while I'm here. I won't miss TBS when this series in done with. I know some here have no time for pre-game stuff but the TBS one is even worse than the usual tripe. Dennis Eckersley and Cal Ripken with the terrible Ernie Johnson.

Now, why would TBS have Craig Sager explain the nuances of the knuckleball when you have Ron Darling in the booth?

soupcan
Oct 15 2008 07:48 AM

I think if its a Tampa-Philly Series, I'd have to go with the Rays.

As much as they are both cruising through this postseason, Tampa looks like they have no weaknesses.

Frayed Knot
Oct 15 2008 08:06 AM

Keep in mind that game 2 went 11 innings and this could easily be a two games each series right now.
The other Tampa wins have been blowouts but so was the game before the Sox started their coemback vs the Yanx.

You're never as good as you look when you're winning and never ... blah blah.


Having said all that, the BoSox offense is suddenly looking old and/or injured.

SteveJRogers
Oct 15 2008 09:53 AM

holychicken wrote:
="Frayed Knot"]Don't throw dirt on them too quickly, they were down 3 games to 1 last year also.

11-2 Rays heading to the 8th.

In fact, 2 times in the last 3 post seasons they have done it . . . and in both times they had one game left at home and then 2 on the road.

Red Sox have got them right where they want them.


Not true, last year the Sox had the best record in baseball, so they had Game 6 & 7 in Fenway.

Now, the question is though, if the Sox win Thursday night, will the young Rays be as tight as the veteran Yankees in 2004?

metirish
Oct 15 2008 09:57 AM

Couldn't help yerself huh?

SteveJRogers
Oct 15 2008 10:02 AM

Watch it you piss taker you.

metirish
Oct 15 2008 10:14 AM
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Things the Sox can do to get back in this series.....please add to these tasks.


Have fun , be loose
hit their pitches , on the flip side the Sox pitchers need to make their pitches
keep the hitters of balance
work the count
get the lead off man on , although only he himself can do that
have fun guys...

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 15 2008 10:42 AM

play their game
stay within themselves
do whatever they can do to help the team
score early
score late
catch the ball
make their pitches
throw strikes
don't be afraid to come after them
play hard for 9 innings
take it one day at a time

bmfc1
Oct 15 2008 10:49 AM

"play their game
stay within themselves"

That's the Red Sox advice? Funny, but that's the same thing that Carl Crawford said when asked after last night's game what the Rays have to do to win Game 5.

metirish
Oct 15 2008 10:52 AM

And that's the point bmfc.....these "things to do "can help all the teams achieve what they want.


Ray and Phillies must not get too excited..
shouldn't look past this next game
remember what got them here

metirish
Oct 15 2008 11:22 AM

Rays manager switches starters for game five. Kazmir will start and not Shields.

Valadius
Oct 15 2008 12:42 PM

I really like the Rays. They're reincarnating the '69 Mets with this season.

SteveJRogers
Oct 15 2008 05:03 PM

Rays flip-flop Shields and Kazmir.

Kazmir will now start Game 5 vs. Dice-K.

Heh, wonder how many Met fans out there are hoping he get lit up the way Lester did Monday night.

metirish
Oct 15 2008 05:19 PM

Heh , wonder if he'll get tight like the 2005 yankees.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 15 2008 09:41 PM

In the right thread, probably.

Congrats to the Phillies, I say. They deserve it.

Gwreck
Oct 15 2008 11:25 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
In the right thread, probably.

Congrats to the Phillies, I say. They deserve it.


I figure* they get stomped on by whomever wins the AL Pennant. Maybe in 4 games.

*(read: hope)

Fman99
Oct 16 2008 07:56 AM

God I hope the Rays can finish off the Sawx.

A Phillies/Red Sox World Series just sickens me.

metirish
Oct 16 2008 06:10 PM

Buck Martinez on facing Dice-K " see your pitch and square up to it"

Ron Darling " wait for your pitch and hit it"...

metirish
Oct 16 2008 08:21 PM

Kazmir is utterly dominating the Sox.

Willets Point
Oct 16 2008 08:53 PM

Looks like the World Series will be a match up of one of baseball's oldest franchises versus one of baseball's youngest franchises. And only one previous Championship total for both franchises. Fascinating.

Frayed Knot
Oct 16 2008 09:36 PM

Not so fast sez Papi (3R HR) and JD Drew (2R HR).
7-6 Rays in the 8th.

Willets Point
Oct 16 2008 09:39 PM

Everyone who's gone to bed and/or "not interested in watching" is missing a good game. An AL-stlye, long-ass game, but a good one nonetheless.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 16 2008 09:47 PM

CoCo. Holy crap

Frayed Knot
Oct 16 2008 09:48 PM

Willets Point wrote:
Everyone who's gone to bed and/or "not interested in watching" is missing a good game. An AL-stlye, long-ass game, but a good one nonetheless.


Hey, tell that to those "Fenway Faithful" who were piling out of the exits two innings back.



TIE GAME !!!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 16 2008 09:48 PM

Willets Point wrote:
Everyone who's gone to bed and/or "not interested in watching" is missing a good game. An AL-stlye, long-ass game, but a good one nonetheless.


The first three innings took like 4 hours, man! And for what? a 5-0 game. Glad/mad I tuned back.

Frayed Knot
Oct 16 2008 09:49 PM

This reminds me a bit of last year.
I was pulling for Cleveland but when Boston got down 3 games to 1 I started rooting for them simply to make it a better series. 3 games later and it was the Injuns who were going home.

Willets Point
Oct 16 2008 09:50 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
="Willets Point"]Everyone who's gone to bed and/or "not interested in watching" is missing a good game. An AL-stlye, long-ass game, but a good one nonetheless.


Hey, tell that to those "Fenway Faithful" who were piling out of the exits two innings back.



I was thinking of them too. They're kicking themselves now, but will probably would walk out/go to bed again should the Sox fall behind in a game 6.

Frayed Knot
Oct 16 2008 10:01 PM

Rays put two on in top 9 but Sox get the GiDP ball and nwo have a chance to win it in their half.

Gwreck
Oct 16 2008 10:04 PM

Chip Caray is an awful announcer.

My personal favorite tonight was "The comeback to end all comebacks!"

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 16 2008 10:12 PM

Gwreck wrote:
Chip Caray is an awful announcer.

My personal favorite tonight was "The comeback to end all comebacks!"


O my. That is bad.

This is the last frame I'm watching so let's hope it ends now.

(definitely rooting for the Sox to make this series interesting again)

Frayed Knot
Oct 16 2008 10:13 PM

I'm finding that I barely even listen to play-by-play announcers. They're just kind of white noise during the game but as long as they're not overbearing (Chris Berman) not much they say bothers me.

The color guy(s) make or break a team much moreso for me and Darling & Martinez are good enough so that I barely notice Carey.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 16 2008 10:16 PM

They did it!

Frayed Knot
Oct 16 2008 10:16 PM

WOW!!!!

themetfairy
Oct 16 2008 10:16 PM

Wow!

Willets Point
Oct 16 2008 10:16 PM

Sox win.

Playoff baseball is fun.

I won't be surprised if TB still takes the series though.

Frayed Knot
Oct 16 2008 10:27 PM

Dancing in the Streets of Hyannis

holychicken
Oct 16 2008 10:34 PM

Crazy game. Not sure why I didn't turn it off, but glad I didn't.

metirish
Oct 17 2008 04:34 AM

Willets Point wrote:
Everyone who's gone to bed and/or "not interested in watching" is missing a good game. An AL-stlye, long-ass game, but a good one nonetheless.



That was me , got to say I am stunned reading the IGT this morning , not over yet.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 17 2008 04:37 AM

I'm not interested in watching, and I guess I missed a good game.

No regrets, though. I'm enjoying NOT watching baseball.

bmfc1
Oct 17 2008 05:15 AM

It must suck to have your bullpen blow such a big lead.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 17 2008 05:49 AM

Yeah, another reason I'm glad I didn't watch. Since I'd be rooting for the Rays, it's just as well that I didn't see that debacle.

Willets Point
Oct 17 2008 06:05 AM

Kind of made me think I was watching a historic reenactment of a typical Mets-Phillies game, w/ Boston playing as the Phillies.

metirish
Oct 17 2008 06:34 AM

Did Kazmir not start the 7th inning , I left the game after watching him get through the 6th with not a lot of stress.

Fman99
Oct 17 2008 06:42 AM

bmfc1 wrote:
It must suck to have your bullpen blow such a big lead.


Ha!

I went to bed with the Sawx down 7-0. Missed the whole hootenanny.

HahnSolo
Oct 17 2008 06:56 AM

Can't believe I watched till the end.
question: do the Rays not have a defensive replacement in RF for Gross? He made a horrendous throw on Crisp's single to tie the game, then didn't come close to a catchable game - winning hit.

Willets Point
Oct 17 2008 07:16 AM

Rays fans are probably wondering why Kazmir was pulled, although in Maddon's defense, the top of the 7th inning was more than 30 minutes long.

AG/DC
Oct 17 2008 07:16 AM

I guess Rocco Baldelli --- who incidentally almost killed a guy on Monday when he hit a fan in the face with a drive --- would be the best available glove. I haven't been watching --- or even following very closely --- and don't know if he's under limited availalility due to his mitochondrial disease.

Rocco is a hero.

soupcan
Oct 17 2008 07:26 AM

Willets Point wrote:
Rays fans are probably wondering why Kazmir was pulled, although in Maddon's defense, the top of the 7th inning was more than 30 minutes long.


It was also 7-0 and Kazmir had thrown 111 pitches.

I watched the whole thing.

Has J.D. Drew been everything he wasn't with the Dodgers or what?

Frayed Knot
Oct 17 2008 07:35 AM

]Rays fans are probably wondering why Kazmir was pulled, although in Maddon's defense, the top of the 7th inning was more than 30 minutes long.


Maddon's pitching decision are taking a few hits via the post-game insta-analysis.
Why did he pull Kazmir? ... Why no LHP to pitch to Papi? ... Too early for Wheeler?

In Maddon's defense:
- Kaz was up over 110 pitches already (what else is new?), plus the long wait.
- I'm betting he'd take some hits for "over-thinking" the pen if he started situationally matching L/R pitchers when he still had a 6-run lead. Papi hadn't gotten around on a fastball since maybe August before he swatted that Balfour pitch into the seats.



="HahnSolo"]do the Rays not have a defensive replacement in RF for Gross? He made a horrendous throw on Crisp's single to tie the game, then didn't come close to a catchable game - winning hit.


Baldelli possibly, although he doesn't seem to be moving as well as his pre-injured self to me.
The other is Fernando Perez, a rookie who seems to be an Endy type of defensive sub for them.

I heard someoe say that Gross's foot slipped as he made that throw. I didn't see that but it almost had to seeing as how the throw from only medium RF basically two-hopped its way to 1st base. I think Buck Martinez was saying just before that that Gross has a good arm in RF so maybe this one was just bad luck. Not having a better fielder in for the 9th to possibly catch Drew's drive is the more knock-worthy non-move IMO.

metirish
Oct 17 2008 07:43 AM

]

I watched the whole thing.




I couldn't , it was all I could take to watch six innings of Kazmir . An overwhelming sense of loss overtook me watching him dominate the Red Sox.

AG/DC
Oct 17 2008 07:46 AM

Even when the guy was a hit-and-miss rookie he was beating up on the Sox.

Frayed Knot
Oct 17 2008 07:48 AM

]Has J.D. Drew been everything he wasn't with the Dodgers or what?


I guess the overall answer is ... sort of.

He still frustratingly blows hot and cold and still sits out long stretches with hard to pinpoint injuries. Missed the last month or so with a "bad back" and still only 500 ABs once in his career.
The jury is probably still out as to whether or not this was a good signing (3 years still to run).

But when he does get in there he hits and gets on base a ton. Plus I'm guessing it'll be a while before the Boston fans derisively refer to him as "Nancy" Drew the way they did when he first got there.


P.S. I'm also not expecting a Francesa (or Russo) mea culpa today since they both not only were sure of his failure in Boston but specifically knew that he'd fail in those always popular "BIG" spots ... like last night for instance.

HahnSolo
Oct 17 2008 08:03 AM

="Frayed Knot"]
]
Baldelli possibly, although he doesn't seem to be moving as well as his pre-injured self to me.
The other is Fernando Perez, a rookie who seems to be an Endy type of defensive sub for them.

I heard someoe say that Gross's foot slipped as he made that throw. I didn't see that but it almost had to seeing as how the throw from only medium RF basically two-hopped its way to 1st base. I think Buck Martinez was saying just before that that Gross has a good arm in RF so maybe this one was just bad luck. Not having a better fielder in for the 9th to possibly catch Drew's drive is the more knock-worthy non-move IMO.


I don't mean to knock, just putting it out there. I don't believe Baldelli can play the field because of that condition he had.
I do think once it gets to 7-4, you get your 3 best outfielders out there for the 8th. Maybe Gross is that guy, and just had a bad couple innings.

Frayed Knot
Oct 17 2008 08:14 AM

]I don't mean to knock, just putting it out there. I don't believe Baldelli can play the field because of that condition he had.
I do think once it gets to 7-4, you get your 3 best outfielders out there for the 8th. Maybe Gross is that guy, and just had a bad couple innings.


Perez is considered the better defensive OFer so I think a knock on Maddon here is justified. The throw was probably just bad luck but maybe a better glove could have prevented one or two of those hits.

Baldelli still can play OF these days, just can't handle a bunch in a row and doesn't look to have that same smooth-running stride he did as a rookie.
Shame.

KC
Oct 18 2008 06:13 PM

Uh, the game's not on? I thought it was a 8:07 start or something.

I'm getting really bad sitcom stuff with really bad afro wigs.

OE: Technical Difficulty scrolls ... ya gotta be kidding me?!?

metirish
Oct 18 2008 06:18 PM

Unreal , I tuned to TBSHD and couldn't figure out why there was no game on , come here and see KC posting about it , TBS not telling us why until just now.

metirish
Oct 18 2008 06:19 PM

No score in the bottom of the first.

metirish
Oct 18 2008 06:26 PM

Come on TBS , can you at least get a radio feed up there , show a picture of the stadium with he feed , anything would be better than this crap sitcom.

KC
Oct 18 2008 06:29 PM

That was pretty funny ... bush league broadcasting ... and showing bad com-
mericials like everything was status quo.

Boo.

metirish
Oct 18 2008 06:31 PM

It's back , sounds to me like they will be fighting this all night.

themetfairy
Oct 18 2008 07:10 PM

2-1 Boston, bottom of the third. The Red Sox had opportunities to really break the game open in the second and third innings, but so far only eked out the two runs.

themetfairy
Oct 18 2008 07:35 PM

The delayed coverage was due to a [url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/10/18/tbs.difficulties.ap/index.html?eref=si_topstories]router problem in Atlanta[/url].

Meanwhile, there's a delay in the game as home plate umpire Darryl Cousins comes out of the game.

G-Fafif
Oct 18 2008 08:26 PM

Moments after Bartlett's homer, a fan was shown holding a SHAZAM sign. And that fan was wearing a USF (University of South Florida) Bull logo cap. Got a bigger rise out of this USF alumnus than the homer itself.

G-Fafif
Oct 18 2008 08:27 PM

themetfairy wrote:
The delayed coverage was due to a [url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/10/18/tbs.difficulties.ap/index.html?eref=si_topstories]router problem in Atlanta[/url].


Braves duly blamed.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 18 2008 08:45 PM

I'm rooting for Game 7.

Willets Point
Oct 18 2008 09:23 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I'm rooting for Game 7.


Me too.

Willets Point
Oct 18 2008 09:57 PM

We get our wish as the Sox win Game 6 without much drama.

G-Fafif
Oct 18 2008 10:09 PM

Can't find the lyrics, but Atlanta Rhythm Section did a song called "Cuban Crisis," about a Saturday night in Tampa. Hmmm...

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2008 08:04 AM

Willets Point wrote:
="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I'm rooting for Game 7.


Me too.


So am I, mainly because I wanted the drama even though I've been pulling for Tampa to go to the WS all along.
Now, just like in last year's ALCS, my dogma might find itself run over by the karma.



Meanwhile, the dumbest statement of the week contest ended early when Chip Carey, after apologizing for the technical snafu, tacked on; "you haven't missed much".
Fuck you asshole.

themetfairy
Oct 19 2008 08:26 AM

Ron Darling was sitting between Chip Carey and Buck Martinez during the broadcast. You could just hear him thinking how much he missed working with intelligent people like Keith and Gary.

Zvon
Oct 19 2008 06:54 PM

Anyone watching this?
I suppose I'm rooting for the Rays here in the ALCS cause they are Davey to the BoSox Goliath.
But that lil guy Dustin Pedroia shocks the carp outta me by smacking a 1st inning dinger.

Its currently in the 3rd and Pedroia's line drive boomer is the only hit of the game at this point.

themetfairy
Oct 19 2008 07:01 PM

I'm watching. I'm not staying up 'til midnight if it runs long, but I'm watching the game.

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2008 07:32 PM

If Garza keeps taking 30 seconds or more for each pitch even when it's the 3rd inning and the bases empty it's going to take at least until midnight.

It's bottom 4, the game taken nearly 1-1/2 hours already and there have only been 4 baserunners total.


Oops, now 5 baserunners and it's a tie game.

Zvon
Oct 19 2008 07:34 PM

Whoa!

Langoria ties it with a clutch RBI double!
Good thing too....
I was starting to snooze.

themetfairy
Oct 19 2008 07:37 PM

Pena gave everything he had to score that run.

Zvon
Oct 19 2008 08:03 PM

Da Rays take a one run lead in the 5th.
Quite a good game goin on here.

Rockin' Doc
Oct 19 2008 08:11 PM

Good game thus far.

Both pitcher's are pitching well. Garza has a wicked curve.

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2008 08:19 PM

Sawx have just the one hit (Pedroia's HR) thru 6

Zvon
Oct 19 2008 08:23 PM

I'm glad I have nothing actually vested in either of these teams cuz I think by now I'd have run out of fingernails and started working on my toenails.

Rockin' Doc
Oct 19 2008 08:43 PM

Willie Aybar takes Lester deep to make it 3-1 Rays in the bottom of the second.

themetfairy
Oct 19 2008 08:44 PM

You mean the seventh.

Rockin' Doc
Oct 19 2008 08:45 PM

Yes, the seventh.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 19 2008 08:47 PM

How about Garza. Each of his first 7 innings ends with a whiff.

metirish
Oct 19 2008 08:52 PM

Gross in for defence ?

Zvon
Oct 19 2008 09:04 PM

Is it me or is the booth slanted in Bostons favor no matter what is actually going on?
Not Ronnie, of course. He knows when to talk and when not to.
He does not say stuff just to fill spots.
But those other two....

Buck Martinez sounds like an ornery old man no matter what he says (even good informative stuff, lol) and that other guy seems to think this Boston comeback script is already written and it's just a matter of them getting it done.

themetfairy
Oct 19 2008 09:07 PM

The other guy is Chip Carey. Hardly the brightest bulb in the package.

Ronnie must be missing Keith and Gary big time!

themetfairy
Oct 19 2008 09:16 PM

Top of the 8th. Bases loaded. 2 out. Yet another Rays reliever is coming into the game.

Zvon
Oct 19 2008 09:17 PM

themetfairy wrote:
The other guy is Chip Carey. Hardly the brightest bulb in the package.


My Gawt, he is just awful!
Someone tell him this is a national telecast of a post season game and he's just supposed to observe and narrate.
No playing up any one side.

Ooo, Bradfords in.
The guy I always thought we should have kept instead of finding a unreasonable facsimile thereof.

Zvon
Oct 19 2008 09:20 PM

Bradford fails,lol.
Walks his only batter.

K, I'm gonna have to say it....
Just to off set the Chip Carey bugaboo.

LETS GO RAYS!

themetfairy
Oct 19 2008 09:21 PM

The rookie Price gets the strikeout to get out of the bases loaded jam.

Zvon
Oct 19 2008 09:22 PM

Wow. just as I hit send on my last post Price gets that call strike three, which did not look like a strike to me at all.

Drew didn't complain though.

Looked outside to me.

Big K.

Zvon
Oct 19 2008 09:25 PM

Oh, they say he swung.


Note to J.D.Drew:

themetfairy
Oct 19 2008 09:28 PM

3-1 Rays, going to the 9th.

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2008 09:32 PM

Nothing like going with a Sept call-up to try and close out the pennant ... even if he was the #1 pick in the nation last year.

themetfairy
Oct 19 2008 09:35 PM

Runner on first. Potential tying run at the plate. Nobody out.

themetfairy
Oct 19 2008 09:37 PM

One out on Kotsay's strikeout.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 19 2008 09:38 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Nothing like going with a Sept call-up to try and close out the pennant ... even if he was the #1 pick in the nation last year.



Throws fire

themetfairy
Oct 19 2008 09:40 PM

Varitek strikes out swinging for the second out.

themetfairy
Oct 19 2008 09:41 PM

Ground out! The Rays are going to the World Series!

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2008 09:42 PM

Iwamura got a nasty hop there ... nice play.

Willets Point
Oct 19 2008 09:43 PM

Willets Point wrote:
Looks like the World Series will be a match up of one of baseball's oldest franchises versus one of baseball's youngest franchises. And only one previous Championship total for both franchises. Fascinating.


Okay, so now this statement is valid.

Rockin' Doc
Oct 19 2008 09:44 PM

Price was bringing some nasty heat.

Congratulations to the Rays. I hope they whip the Phillies. They are certainly capable, but it should be a good series.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 19 2008 09:45 PM

Hey, all right. The better team over 162 + 7 games won.

Hats off to the Red Sox for providing one-half of the two best series this postseason.

Go... baseball. Give me a 7-game WS please.

Zvon
Oct 19 2008 09:48 PM

Great game.

It'll be the Rays vs. the Phils for World Series 2008.

Im an N.L. man and I was pretty much set to have to root for the Phils, but I may change my feelings on that.

Rays:Mets...both 4 letters.
Lets Go Mets: Lets Go Rays....same amount of syllables.
Rays wear some kinda blue.....

Don't mind me.
Just trying to justify myself to myself.

I think what I'll do is just enjoy the series and root for both of em.

Nymr83
Oct 19 2008 09:50 PM

don't forget the Rays have Cliff Floyd!

OlerudOwned
Oct 19 2008 09:55 PM

David Price is filthy. Filthy is say.

Regardless of whether the Rays win this upcoming series or not, goodness they're going to be competitive for a long time. They're build like a video game franchise with all that young talent.

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 20 2008 12:14 PM

I like that the Rays dog piled the hell out of one another instead of jumping in a circle like dorks.

A+ celebration.