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| Centerfield Sep 30 2008 09:10 AM |
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I wanted to follow up on gwreck's post from the other thread with the numbers. Here are the figures per ESPN.com:
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| Vince Coleman Firecracker Sep 30 2008 09:21 AM |
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Will the Wilpons be collecting any insurance money from the Wagner contract? Or is 09 an uninsured year?
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| Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2008 09:22 AM |
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I don't think so. That kind of insurance, I think, has become harder to get. The insurers took a big hit on a bunch of contracts and have made it too expensive to insure athletes against injury.
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| metirish Sep 30 2008 09:23 AM |
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I think it was reported here when he went out that there will be no insurance payout.
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| Vince Coleman Firecracker Sep 30 2008 09:28 AM |
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10 million for nothing. Ouch.
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| OlerudOwned Sep 30 2008 09:31 AM |
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http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2004/12/new-york-mets.html
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| metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2008 09:42 AM |
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"We're cutting ties with four of our top 10, and another is due to take a $4 pay cut (Delgado) for a total savings of about $37 million. Rubin says about 5.25 will be eaten up by raises to Reyes, Wright and Santana. If you figure 3-5 million for other raises/arbitration, you have $27 million or so to play with. That $27 million has to buy two starting pitchers, a leftfielder, and re-construct the bullpen. "
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| TransMonk Sep 30 2008 09:50 AM |
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Delgado's making a run at 500 next year. If we keep him, it should put fannies in seats as well.
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| AG/DC Sep 30 2008 09:58 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2008 10:03 AM |
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I'm always unhappy --- and I deliberately avoided this with the Bellmore Boys at Buffalo Billiards --- with the angle of "Mets have unlimited resources now that they have a stadium and a network." Other teams have as much and continue to compete with the Mets. Heck, they beat 'em.
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| Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2008 09:58 AM |
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I think they'll have plenty of fannies.
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| attgig Sep 30 2008 11:44 AM |
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I think left fielder would be taken over by murphy, unless they're serious about moving him down to 2b (in which case, something could be had for castillo) I would think one good SP is going to be acquired, while the 5th will be a cheaper option. leaving the pen for.... hopefully not k-rod, but. every internal option has been used this year, so, there will definitely be a search for at least 3 guys to give the pen something solid to go to. if you estimate 3-5 mil each on those. 12 for a sp... you're near your limit. but i agree, payroll won't be an object. but it doesn't give minaya free reign to just get the most expensive players out there...
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| Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2008 11:46 AM |
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My off-the-cuff prescription for the offseason:
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| metsmarathon Sep 30 2008 12:00 PM |
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23+15+8, is my guess.
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| Vince Coleman Firecracker Sep 30 2008 12:29 PM |
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I'll take K-Rod. I know his peripherals may be down a bit, but he's a really good relief pitcher; and while closers are over-priced, the Mets are one of the few teams in baseball that can reasonably afford to overpay for a luxury like an elite closer at market price. With all the farm talent we might be looking at in left and at first over the next two years or so, I think the Mets might try to save money by playing Murphy, Evans, Martinez, et al at first and left while signing Rodriguez.
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| smg58 Sep 30 2008 12:38 PM |
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Ayala, Wise, and Easley are another $4 million or so we don't have on the books for next year.
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| metirish Sep 30 2008 12:41 PM |
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Do people here really care if the payroll is $100 million or if it's $150 million or somewhere in between , to be honest I don't care .
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| smg58 Sep 30 2008 12:45 PM |
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The bullpen absolutely does need to be rebuilt, but you can probably get Fuentes and Jeremy Affeldt for less total than K-Rod will cost. And you have multiple needs to fill.
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| Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2008 12:46 PM |
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I don't care either. But even as fans, we need to understand the payroll because it impacts what the Mets may or may not do.
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| AG/DC Sep 30 2008 12:49 PM |
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The problem is that sometimes a lot of money makes you intellectually lazy.
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| smg58 Sep 30 2008 12:49 PM |
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It's not my money, so I don't really care either. But you have to look at this under the assumption that there's a number above which the ownership won't willingly go.
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| Gwreck Sep 30 2008 12:49 PM |
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I suppose if you've got a payroll that's way out of alignment with what everybody else spends (see Yankees, New York) you can look kind of stupid.
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| metirish Sep 30 2008 12:59 PM |
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I agree that the yankees payroll makes them look like proper dicks , it's not even money spent well.
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| AG/DC Sep 30 2008 01:03 PM |
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I'll disagree.
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| metirish Sep 30 2008 01:12 PM |
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Who are you disagreeing with , or what?
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| AG/DC Sep 30 2008 01:15 PM |
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I think a payroll ceiling will create issues and challenges.
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| Vic Sage Sep 30 2008 01:16 PM Re: Payroll |
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Based on my research, the Mets have about $96M due to 13 players under contract for 2009:
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| Vince Coleman Firecracker Sep 30 2008 01:19 PM |
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Doubtless, there are multiple holes to fill. I count 3- a closer and two guys that can get out both lefties and righties. (A relief ace would really be nice, but I don't think that that's Omar's bag). K-Rod's the best closer available. The other two spots can be filled by much cheaper talent or, perhaps, traded for. The quality of middle relief is really hard to predict from year to year, and I think a team is served better by trying to acquire a lot of average arms than by spending money on pitchers who are considered very good. I really think that K-Rod is one of the very few relievers that will be great every year, and I think that's worth the money he'll make.
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| metirish Sep 30 2008 01:20 PM |
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What I am trying to say here is that while I think the Wilpon's are responsible with payroll they seem to be flexible enough to cover whatever Minaya wants to add.
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| Vince Coleman Firecracker Sep 30 2008 01:23 PM Re: Payroll |
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Has any player ever been forced to take a paycut because of an arbitration hearing?
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| Vince Coleman Firecracker Sep 30 2008 01:25 PM |
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Ack! Jay Satan making everything hard to read! Have mercy, Dark Lord!
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| Farmer Ted Sep 30 2008 01:25 PM |
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Do the Mets try to keep TATIS?
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| HahnSolo Sep 30 2008 01:26 PM |
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I didn't realize that Castro, Endy, and Marlon all had contracts for next year.
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| Gwreck Sep 30 2008 01:28 PM Re: Payroll |
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I haven't looked at the basic agreement in a while but I think they have to get at least 80% of their current salary. So I suppose it is possible. Don't think it's happened though.
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| AG/DC Sep 30 2008 01:29 PM |
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It's actually a good thing that both Schneid and Castro are signed for next year.
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| mario25 Sep 30 2008 01:32 PM |
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Hope Castro goes on a diet. It will cut down on injuries.
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| OlerudOwned Sep 30 2008 01:37 PM |
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There is a way to have a high payroll and still build a team properly, and I'd say that Boston is the model. One of the strongest farm systems around, but the ability to retain youth and spend the money when a hole can't be filled from within. Not to mention the ability to bite the bullet and move on when one of those contracts, like Lugo, doesn't work.
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