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Any Good New Shows?

TheOldMole Oct 21 2008 06:30 PM

One by my count -- Life on Mars.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2008 07:01 PM

Haven't seen it yet; it's backed up in my TiVo. But I did watch the second season of the original British series, so I'm looking forward to the American version.

metirish Oct 21 2008 07:14 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 21 2008 07:20 PM

I was looking today to find out when that show is on , Thursday at 10. Getting good reviews and has a top cast.

Gwreck Oct 21 2008 07:15 PM

They were filming in my neighborhood earlier this month. Bastards took up all the parking spaces. I've been watching "Raising the Bar" on TNT which has been "ok" so far. Promising show -- waiting to see how it develops.

dgwphotography Oct 22 2008 04:54 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="TheOldMole":15nfj999]One by my count -- Life on Mars.[/quote:15nfj999] That's the same one by my count, too. Harvey Keitel is perfect as the lieutenant. Each of the previous two seasons, my favorite new shows, Studio 60 and Journeyman, didn't make it past the first season...

bmfc1 Oct 22 2008 05:42 AM

The American version of Life on Mars is set in New York in 1973. Maybe Sam Tyler could tell Yogi to pitch George Stone in Game 6. I loved the BBC version so I was skeptical about the ABC version but, thus far, it is similar. The BBC series was only 16 episodes so there will have to be changes. It's filmed in the city (not somewhere else disguised as NY, like Vancouver) and it's worth a look.

Frayed Knot Oct 22 2008 07:03 AM

I've checked out the first two episodes of 'Life on Mars'. Not sure that I'm totally sold on it yet but it's good enough that I'll keep watching to see where it goes. So far they've managed to NOT fall into the trap of most retro-programs and beat you over the head with overdone (and often incorrect) styles and cultural references of the time just in case you somehow forgot that the characters are in another era.

themetfairy Oct 22 2008 07:21 AM

When is Life on Mars on?

AG/DC Oct 22 2008 07:27 AM

[quote="Frayed Knot":1f2rd7le]So far they've managed to NOT fall into the trap of most retro-programs and beat you over the head with overdone (and often incorrect) styles and cultural references of the time just in case you somehow forgot that the characters are in another era.[/quote:1f2rd7le] Of course, you're speaking of Wedding Singer Syndrome. Is it set in New York? I'd like to see my dad's old squad room again.

HahnSolo Oct 22 2008 07:41 AM

[quote="AG/DC":2sfoj6nn] Is it set in New York? I'd like to see my dad's old squad room again.[/quote:2sfoj6nn] I'd like to see him run into Wojo and Fish.

bmfc1 Oct 22 2008 07:49 AM

Good point about not over-doing the retro references. The original didn't but I feared that on ABC, Sam would break out the disco pants and grow and Afro.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 22 2008 07:49 AM

[quote="Gwreck"]They were filming in my neighborhood earlier this month. Bastards took up all the parking spaces.

Yeah but with really cool cars!

I have yet to commit to new TV, though I meant to see 'Mars'

Took up Mad Men at the insistence of everyone we know but I'm only OK with it. I just love the scenes in the office where they bang out the creative and make the pitches. I care less for the secret life of Don Draper and hois wife's creepy dalliances with 10-year-olds. Cheers was never as good when they weren't in the bar either.

Frayed Knot Oct 22 2008 07:57 AM

[quote="themetfairy"]When is Life on Mars on?

Thurs - 10 - ABC

Of course, you're speaking of Wedding Singer Syndrome

Never saw that one so I'll have to take your word for it. But any number of shows go overboard trying to prove to you that they know what 19__ looked like and felt like. And anything from the 1960's just looks so phony it's almost unwatchable just on principle. What the media seems to see as the 1960s only partially rings true and even then only at the very tail-end of the decade. But that doesn't stop them from depicting long-haired boys in tie-dyed shirts in their 1965 yearbook photo.

I know I'm in the minority on this one but I got that same negative vibe from 'Mad Men' - AMC's original series set in the advertising world of 1960. It was one thing when they were setting up the premise but they spent the first 3 episodes driving home the point about how politcally & socially incorrect the times were. OK, I get it, everyone smoked, everyone drank, women in the office were mistreated, no one wore seatbelts, yadda, yadda. They even made all the products the firm represented evil: cigarettes, aerosol sprays, Richard Nixon.
It's why I gave up on it.

themetfairy Oct 22 2008 08:01 AM

Thanks FK.

Frayed Knot Oct 22 2008 08:20 AM

Is it set in New York? I'd like to see my dad's old squad room again. The squad room - Precinct 125 - is set in lower manhattan somewhere although they're not too specific as to address or neighborhood.

AG/DC Oct 22 2008 09:01 AM

[quote="Frayed Knot"] Is it set in New York? I'd like to see my dad's old squad room again. The squad room - Precinct 125 - is set in lower manhattan somewhere although they're not too specific as to address or neighborhood.

They already blew it. No Manhattan precinct would ever have a three-digit number. Any 125th (there isn't any) would be on Staten Island or something. Manhattan South has low numbers.

Unless, it's an alternative universe precinct that exists only in his mind. There we go.

HahnSolo Oct 22 2008 09:34 AM

Maybe 125th is an homage to two previous ABC NYPD cop shows: a combination of Barney Miller (12th pct.) and NYPD Blue (15th pct.). The alternative is that I should spend my time thinking about more productive things, like work.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 22 2008 09:48 AM

I thought NYPD Blue was the 13th. Not sure though.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 22 2008 09:55 AM

[quote="Gwreck":3fcvjrcb]They were filming in my neighborhood earlier this month. Bastards took up all the parking spaces. [/quote:3fcvjrcb] I get that, too. They film CSI: Miami by my apartment. I was goin for coffee and parked behind all these cop cars. I wondered if I was stoned or dreaming or something when I was walking up to the shop and saw all the car doors read "Miami Dade County" instead of Long Beach PD. But I wasn't stoned, though. Or dreaming. Turns out they were doing a street scene on the corner, and I sort of drove right up to it before some PA kid shooed me away. No coffee either.

Frayed Knot Oct 22 2008 11:51 AM

I may be wrong about the 125th now that I think about it. Or maybe that is it and they're using it specifically so it doesn't equate to a real house which would set up a whole 'nother set of problems as they try to stay realistic about shooting sites etc.

themetfairy Oct 22 2008 12:00 PM

I'll try to catch up with Life on Mars through Hulu.

AG/DC Oct 22 2008 12:03 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 23 2008 07:59 PM

Well, there are plenty of long-extinct precinct numbers to use for fictional houses in the low numbers, as Barney Miller and Andy Sipowicz did. Manhattan 1st Precinct (212) 334-0611 16 Ericsson Place --- HQ 5th Precinct (212) 334-0711 19 Elizabeth Street 6th Precinct (212) 741-4811 233 West 10 Street 7th Precinct (212) 477-7311 19 1/2 Pitt Street 9th Precinct (212) 477-7811 130 Avenue C 10th Precinct (212) 741-8211 230 West 20th Street Barney Miller's Fictional 12th 13th Precinct (212) 477-7411 230 East 21st Street 14th Precinct (212) 239-9811 357 West 35th Street NYPD Blue's Fictional 15th 17th Precinct (212) 826-3211 167 East 51st Street 18th Precinct (212) 767-8400 306 West 54th Street 19th Precinct (212) 452-0600 153 East 67th Street 20th Precinct (212) 580-6411 120 West 82nd Street 22nd Precinct (212) 570-4820 86th St & Transverse Road 23rd Precinct (212) 860-6411 162 East 102nd Street 24th Precinct (212) 678-1811 151 West 100th Street 25th Precinct (212) 860-6511 120 East 119th Street 26th Precinct (212) 678-1311 520 West 126th Street 28th Precinct (212) 678-1611 2271-89 8th Avenue 30th Precinct (212) 690-8811 451 West 151st Street* 32nd Precinct (212) 690-6311 250 West 135th Street 33rd Precinct (212) 927-3200 2207 Amsterdam Avenue 34th Precinct (212) 927-9711 4295 Broadway * Known for decades as the Dirty Thirty, NYPD should really change this number. Used to be that cops would threaten to retire early rather than accept a transfer to the 30th. Bronx 40th Precinct (718) 402-2270 257 Alexander Avenue 41st Precinct (718) 542-4771 1035 Longwood Avenue 42nd Precinct (718) 402-3887 830 Washington Avenue 43rd Precinct (718) 542-0888 900 Fteley Avenue 44th Precinct (718) 590-5511 2 East 169th Street 45th Precinct (718) 822-5411 2877 Barkley Avenue 46th Precinct (718) 220-5211 2120 Ryer Avenue 47th Precinct (718) 920-1211 4111 Laconia Avenue 48th Precinct (718) 299-3900 450 Cross Bronx Expressway 49th Precinct (718) 918-2000 2121 Eastchester Road 50th Precinct (718) 543-5700 3450 Kingsbridge Avenue 52nd Precinct (718) 220-5811 3016 Webster Avenue Brooklyn 60th Precinct (718) 946-3311 2951 West 8th Street 61st Precinct (718) 627-6611 2575 Coney Island Avenue 62nd Precinct (718) 236-2611 1925 Bath Avenue 63rd Precinct (718) 258-4411 1844 Brooklyn Avenue 66th Precinct (718) 851-5611 5822 16th Avenue 67th Precinct (718) 287-3211 2820 Snyder Avenue 68th Precinct (718) 439-4211 333 65th Street 69th Precinct (718) 257-6211 9720 Foster Avenue 70th Precinct (718) 851-5511 154 Lawrence Avenue 71st Precinct (718) 735-0511 421 Empire Boulevard 72nd Precinct (718) 965-6311 830 4th Avenue 73rd Precinct (718) 495-5411 1470 East New York Avenue 75th Precinct (718) 827-3511 1000 Sutter Avenue 76th Precinct (718) 834-3211 191 Union Street 77th Precinct (718) 735-0611 127 Utica Avenue 78th Precinct (718) 636-6411 65 6th Avenue 79th Precinct (718) 636-6611 263 Tompkins Avenue 81st Precinct (718) 574-0411 30 Ralph Avenue 83rd Precinct (718) 574-1605 480 Knickerbocker Avenue 84th Precinct (718) 875-6811 301 Gold Street 88th Precinct (718) 636-6511 298 Classon Avenue 90th Precinct (718) 963-5311 211 Union Avenue 94th Precinct (718) 383-3879 100 Meserole Avenue Queens 100th Precinct (718) 318-4200 92-24 Rockaway Beach Boulevard 101st Precinct (718) 868-3400 16-12 Mott Avenue 102nd Precinct (718) 805-3200 87-34 118th Street 103rd Precinct (718) 657-8181 168-02 P.O. Edwaard Byrne Ave. 104th Precinct (718) 386-3004 64-2 Catalpa Avenue 105th Precinct (718) 776-9090 92-08 222nd Street 106th Precinct (718) 845-2211 103-53 101st Street 107th Precinct (718) 969-5100 71-01 Parsons Boulevard 108th Precinct (718) 784-5411 5-47 50th Avenue 109th Precinct (718) 321-2250 37-05 Union Street 110th Precinct (718) 476-9311 94-41 43rd Avenue 111th Precinct (718) 279-5200 42-06 215th Street 112th Precinct (718) 520-9311 68-40 Austin Street 113th Precinct (718) 712-7733 167-02 Baisley Boulevard 114th Precinct (718) 626-9311 34-16 Astoria Boulevard 115th Precinct (718) 533-2002 92-15 Northern Boulevard Staten Island 120th Precinct (718) 876-8500 78 Richmond Terrace 122nd Precinct (718) 667-2211 2320 Hylan Boulevard 123rd Precinct (718) 948-9311 116 Main Street

themetfairy Oct 23 2008 07:31 PM

D-Dad and I caught up on the first two episodes of Life on Mars on Hulu. It's not my cup of tea, but D-Dad is enjoying it. We'll check out the third episode tonight. Agreed that Keitel is great - it might be worth watching for his performance alone. If nothing else, it gives us an excuse to spend an hour together on a Thursday night.

Gwreck Oct 23 2008 08:07 PM

Let's not forget Law & Order's legendary fictional 27th precinct.

soupcan Nov 06 2008 08:56 PM

Okay - I'm all caught up on Life On Mars. I like it - the production and writing leave a bit to be desried but I like the premise. So Sam's got to be in a coma, right?

OlerudOwned Nov 06 2008 09:39 PM

The Life and Times of Tim, on HBO. Silly, funny, awkward cartoon evolved out of this short.

themetfairy Nov 07 2008 05:40 AM

[quote="soupcan":9spcexy7]Okay - I'm all caught up on Life On Mars. I like it - the production and writing leave a bit to be desried but I like the premise. So Sam's got to be in a coma, right?[/quote:9spcexy7] I agree about the premise. But I fear it's going to wear thin soon. The only thing that's consistently entertaining is Harvey Keitel's performance. I like your coma theory.

HahnSolo Nov 07 2008 06:51 AM

My big question is whether there really were cops as hot as Gretchen Mol back in '73. They have to get a '73 Mets storyline into the show at some point, right?

Edgy DC Nov 07 2008 07:20 AM

Well, there weren't a whole lot of wimmens on the force at all in 1973. They weren't allowed to take promotional exams until the late sixties (they might have passed! and then what?!) and weren't allowed to go on patrol until around '74.

Frayed Knot Nov 07 2008 08:30 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 07 2008 09:07 AM

Well that's part of the plot, that she's on the force but no one lets her do anything except rescue kitties from trees and talk to women crime victims. That she's smoking hot under her rather prim uniform and sensible haircut hasn't seemed to occur to the rest of the precinct as they simply refer to her as "no-nuts" and treat her as an office decoration even though her college degree is probably more than most of them have. The hero of this show, having 2008 values and all, is of course more progressive on all these issues and actually listens to her opinions yadda yadda.

soupcan Nov 07 2008 08:56 AM

The thing I find interesting and unique about the show is - if you accept the coma premise - that there are clues in each show that show the viewer he is unconscious. The characters Sam interacts with are characters his subconcious is creating to fill different needs and give him different messages - like he's dreaming. Last night's episode for instance - Sam is a lapsed Christian who because is father abandoned him when he was 4 lost his faith in God. So now there is a situation where he has to pursue a perp whose name is 'Angel'. Angel has taken refuge in a church but Sam's entry to the church is blocked by a tough guy priest making it not so easy to simply walk right back in. There's been stuff like that in each episode. Each character represents certain things from Sam's life. That's what I like about the show - trying to figure out what I'm seeing. It's like trying to interpret a dream. On a critical note - I think that Imperioli is wooden and Keitel is not being taken advantage of. I attribute both of those things to the writing and the fact that 'Mars' is a network show, just not having the budget or the time in which to fully develop these characters.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2008 09:21 AM

I saw this show for the first time last nite. Well, I missed the first 20 minutes or so, but liked what of it I saw. As Gwreck said above, parts of it were shot in the 'hood here in late summer, incliuding a few "street scenes" where every car had big-ass muscles.

Vic Sage Nov 07 2008 09:46 AM

[quote="soupcan":13pum2a8]The thing I find interesting and unique about the show is - if you accept the coma premise - that there are clues in each show that show the viewer he is unconscious. The characters Sam interacts with are characters his subconcious is creating to fill different needs and give him different messages - like he's dreaming. Last night's episode for instance - Sam is a lapsed Christian who because is father abandoned him when he was 4 lost his faith in God. So now there is a situation where he has to pursue a perp whose name is 'Angel'. Angel has taken refuge in a church but Sam's entry to the church is blocked by a tough guy priest making it not so easy to simply walk right back in. There's been stuff like that in each episode. Each character represents certain things from Sam's life. That's what I like about the show - trying to figure out what I'm seeing. It's like trying to interpret a dream. On a critical note - I think that Imperioli is wooden and Keitel is not being taken advantage of. I attribute both of those things to the writing and the fact that 'Mars' is a network show, just not having the budget or the time in which to fully develop these characters.[/quote:13pum2a8] that sounds like ST ELSEWHERE, where the entire series was the fantasy of an autistic child. Usually, i hate the "it was only a dream" device (most people do), but it worked for that show, and in NEWHART.

soupcan Nov 07 2008 09:49 AM

Yeah but those shows didn't decide they were a dream until they ended. This one is from the beginning.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 09:50 AM

In the British series, Sam was in a coma. I haven't even started watching the American version yet, so I don't know how different an approach they're taking.

Frayed Knot Nov 07 2008 09:54 AM

St. Elsewhere and Newhart were after-the-fact deals with their dream/imagination sequences. Newhart, I suspect, was thrown in as an ending gag and was almost certainly not a planned from the beginning. Maybe the writers of S.E. had theirs in mind all along but, either way, it wasn't done from the top like this show where a working cop gets hit in traffic and wakes up in 1973. Coma? Time warp? At least none were the total bullshit 'Dallas' scheme of how to get an actor who quit and was killed off back into the plot.

TheOldMole Nov 07 2008 08:26 PM

You don't think Michael Imperioli is giving a great performance?

Zvon Nov 07 2008 09:33 PM

I try and catch the new show premieres every year. If there's a show I like I'll follow it. Fringe is the only one I'm interested in following. Billed as "X-Files like", but not at all like the X-Files in my opinion. I recommend it. I also suggest you not tune in without at least seeing the 2 hour pilot episode first. You really should try and see em all in order before you jump in. There is a developing back story, although each episode is a separate case does stand alone. I think there have been only 6 episodes so far and it hasn't been on the last 3 weeks for various reasons(baseball,election). Its on FOX : Tuesdays at 9pm. You can see the pilot and all episodes here, if you wish: http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=fringe

themetfairy Nov 07 2008 10:25 PM

[quote="TheOldMole":1zcd3z7g]You don't think Michael Imperioli is giving a great performance?[/quote:1zcd3z7g] Not as amusing as Keitel's.

dgwphotography Nov 08 2008 06:50 AM

[quote="themetfairy":3bni2xs5][quote="TheOldMole":3bni2xs5]You don't think Michael Imperioli is giving a great performance?[/quote:3bni2xs5] Not as amusing as Keitel's.[/quote:3bni2xs5] I don't think Imperioli has the ability to chew up scenery like Harvey Keitel. Let's face it, Keitel owns every scene he is in.

TheOldMole Nov 08 2008 02:11 PM

Yeah, but I knew that Keitel was that good -- Imperioli is the real surprise.

Frayed Knot Nov 09 2008 09:20 PM

And speaking of dream sequences and returning actors, 'ER' (a creation of the recently deceased Michael Crichton) is now in its final season (#15 I think) and the show is using this swan song to trot out the gimmick of bringing back as many of their since moved-on alumni as possible. This apparently includes, via some sort of flashback contrivance, the character played by Anthony Edwards even though he was killed off some 6-7 seasons ago. The big question in the gossip pages is whether or not George Clooney will make a cameo return. Might be tough to pull off seeing as how the actor usually has other stuff going on - but at least his character just moved away and wasn't given brain cancer.

soupcan Nov 10 2008 07:01 AM

[quote="TheOldMole":1n3pm2wc]Yeah, but I knew that Keitel was that good -- Imperioli is the real surprise.[/quote:1n3pm2wc] See - I disagree. I don't see anything special that either Keitel or Imperioli are doing. No question that they are both very talented guys but I don't see that they've got enough to work with. It must be the writing because I can't imagine those two not getting as much out of what they are given as possible. I think network TV is wasting both of them.

metirish Nov 11 2008 06:56 PM

Little Britain USA - Very funny HBO2 showing it right now.

themetfairy Nov 20 2008 09:00 PM

No new episodes of Life on Mars until January 28th? WTF?????

HahnSolo Nov 21 2008 07:10 AM

[quote="themetfairy":28wb1eb7]No new episodes of Life on Mars until January 28th? WTF?????[/quote:28wb1eb7] This happened with Lost a few years ago. There's usually 22 episodes in a season that they want to stretch to May. I believe the thinking is that there will be fewer skipped weeks following the hiatus. Speaking of Lost, Life On Mars will be airing the same nights as Lost come January. Which is interesting, because the last 20 minutes of the episode last night had a very "Lost"-like feel.

themetfairy Dec 17 2008 05:37 AM

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A Boy Named Seo Dec 19 2008 06:05 PM

I'm digging Man vs. Wild on Discovery. He goes to all these crazy-ass harsh climate places and does whatever it takes to survive, including skinning a dead deer to make a blanket when he's freezing and drinking his own pee when he's dying of thirst. Good.

Frayed Knot Apr 10 2009 10:31 AM

So WTF is the deal with that 'Life on Mars' finale? Was that last episode a series ender, or just a season ender? And if it's season just ending then where are they going to go with it? Or was that future dream merely a dream and he really is an injured 2008/9 cop?

HahnSolo Apr 10 2009 10:39 AM

Series-ender. My theory is that the ending was a bit of an F-you from the writers/producers to ABC for not even giving them the full season.

Frayed Knot Apr 10 2009 01:44 PM

It never occurred to me that this series was destined all along to be a one-and-done deal but I guess it would have been tough to bring Keitel & Imperioli on board if it were anything but.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 11 2009 02:37 PM

Is anyone else into-- "enjoying" might be the wrong word-- this "Eastbound and Down" business? (First 'season' of 6 episodes is over, but seek online and you shall find...) Never thought I'd see Southern Gothic this profane-- and hilarious-- on a screen, ever... much less on TV, and centered on a Rocker-cum-Wild-Thing type played by the guy from "Foot Fist Way"/"Pineapple Express."

dgwphotography Apr 11 2009 02:44 PM

[quote="HahnSolo":2hbf32ss]Series-ender. My theory is that the ending was a bit of an F-you from the writers/producers to ABC for not even giving them the full season.[/quote:2hbf32ss] No - according to the producers, this was the end game they had in mind all along - if you look back at previous episodes, they have been dropping little hints all season. If you'll notice, in the last scene Keitel had the same tatoo on his left hand that his father did in his mind back in 1973. Also, there have been numerous references to David Bowie all season long, and when Sam woke up, his name was "Major Tom"

OlerudOwned Apr 11 2009 06:32 PM

Parks and Recreation, the Ken Tremendous-produced non-Office spinoff starring Amy Poehler, debuted a few nights ago on NBC. I enjoyed the pilot. It looks promising.

metsmarathon Apr 11 2009 09:48 PM

the unusuals appears promising.

themetfairy Apr 20 2009 08:28 PM

Is anyone else here watching Castle? Nathan Fillon is entertaining as the titular character. It's kind of a throwback to the old Columbo/McMillan and Wife/Ellery Queen type mysteries, with a touch of Moonlighting's rapport thrown in for good measure.

TheOldMole Apr 21 2009 10:41 PM

I sort of like Castle, but he's a little too obnoxious for me. Was let down by The Unusuals and Southland. Really like the No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2009 09:23 AM

This goes in the "New to me" category but I stewed over the Mets loss last night watching "Deadliest Catch" for the first time -- wow, great show.

Rockin' Doc Apr 29 2009 10:43 AM

Anything looks good after watching the Mets implode to lose.

metirish Jul 22 2009 07:25 AM

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3pdz5aun]This goes in the "New to me" category but I stewed over the Mets loss last night watching "Deadliest Catch" for the first time -- wow, great show.[/quote:3pdz5aun] Excellent show..... That shows producer Thom Beers has a new show on Discovery that we enjoyed last night. The Colony http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/colony/colony.html http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/arts/ ... lypse.html It premiered last night and I'll definitely tune in again next week.

Nymr83 Jul 22 2009 07:34 AM

I thought 'The Colony' was terrible (I had it on because I was watching Deadliest Catch before it, as I usually do when the Mets play terrible)

metsguyinmichigan Jul 22 2009 08:33 AM

[quote="themetfairy":3bhayuvt]Is anyone else here watching Castle? Nathan Fillon is entertaining as the titular character. It's kind of a throwback to the old Columbo/McMillan and Wife/Ellery Queen type mysteries, with a touch of Moonlighting's rapport thrown in for good measure.[/quote:3bhayuvt] My wife has me hooked as Castle. Watched a couple she had on the DVR last night. Maybe I like it bcause I'm a writer and the son of a cop (and knowing that NO police station looks like that and NO police woman would dress like that. BUt we can suspend disbelief.) BTW, Dad always said NYPD Blue was the most realistic, at least as much as you can reasonably expect from a television show.

TheOldMole Jul 23 2009 07:39 AM

Are there any woman police detectives on TV at the moment who don't wear hip-huggers?

metirish Jul 30 2009 08:10 AM

[quote="Nymr83":1pnq5prj]I thought 'The Colony' was terrible (I had it on because I was watching Deadliest Catch before it, as I usually do when the Mets play terrible)[/quote:1pnq5prj] Well , we are in agreement. We tuned in for the second episode of The Colony last night and almost in unison half way though we both said this is terrible.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2009 01:39 PM

[quote="TheOldMole"]Are there any woman police detectives on TV at the moment who don't wear hip-huggers?

A part of me to which I listen far more often than I should hopes that's a "no."

Centerfield Sep 28 2009 12:42 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Season 4 of Dexter kicked off last night and I am psyched. I would put Season 2 of that show up there with Season 3 of The Wire as some of the best stuff I've seen on TV. Last season, I thought, took a step back with the whole Jimmy Smits storyline, but this season looks to be a return to form. Pretty interesting storyline now with Dexter trying to handle the rigors of his job, his killing and his family life at home. John Lithgow looks positively creepy as this new killer. And they brought back Lundy, one of my favorite characters from Season 2. Last night was cool, the previews look good. Let's hope it doesn't suck.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2009 12:46 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Dexter has a great track record. I'd be really surprised if it sucked. It was a little weird, though, seeing the Third Rock guy's heinie.

TransMonk Sep 28 2009 01:18 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Dexter is the only show I watch weekly. Rita is wearing on me. I decided last night that if she were my wife/girlfriend, and I were a serial killer, she would have been dead 2 1/2 seasons ago...code or no code.

RealityChuck Sep 28 2009 01:40 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Check out Community. Very funny show (especially good if you liked Arrested Development or The Office). Episodes are on Hulu.com.

soupcan Sep 28 2009 01:46 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

RE: Dexter - His sister bugs the bejesus out of me. she's unattractive, can't act and her character is just plain stupid and unbelievable. I did like last night's episode. Curious to find out where the body parts went.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2009 01:53 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

In real life, she's married to Michael C. Hall, so there's a creepy incest aspect to her playing his sister.

Farmer Ted Sep 28 2009 02:17 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Intrigued by FastForward after watching the first episode. Laughed my ass off to Modern Family. Dexter continues to rock.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2009 02:19 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

I've been TiVoing Modern Family and Community, but haven't tried them yet. Same with The Good Wife, but that's mostly me trying to be a Good Husband.

Swan Swan H Sep 28 2009 02:22 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Jet Blue was showing the first episode (I assume, what with all the exposition) of Modern Family on their house channel, and I agree, it was pretty funny. Still loving Mad Men. Last night's episode was pretty stunning.

Frayed Knot Sep 28 2009 05:15 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Maybe I'm the wrong person to go by because I'm usually not a big fan of family-type comedies -- but I saw the initial episode of 'Modern Family' and I won't be tuning in for another.

metirish Sep 29 2009 11:40 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

I'm watching "The National Parks : America's Best Idea" on channel 13 , it's the new Ken Burns project and even though there have been documentaries just about every night on various channels about the Parks this is worth watching. Two episodes in and they are up to around the year 1915 and have dealt with the beginnings of the Parks with Yosemite and Yellowstone and introduces John Muir. Last nights episode was Muir and his unrelenting fight to create Parks and how Roosevelt used his presidential powers to make that happen, fascinating to see how these two connected over the years with a common love for these vast wilderness, Roosevelt loved hunting and Muir hated it....interesting stuff. Despite all he did Muir was devestaed by the damming of Hetch Hetchy Valley and what was to be his last battle for preservation. There is something about a Ken Burns film on PBS that makes me want to watch.

Centerfield Oct 06 2009 08:10 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Dexter continues to be very good. Really enjoyed Sunday's episode. On the other hand, I'm about ready to give up on Heroes.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2009 08:14 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Heroes has sucked for a couple of years now. If it wasn't something I watched with my son, I'd have given up on it as well. I do get a kick out of Dexter. It's one of the few shows I watch on the night that it airs.

metsmarathon Oct 06 2009 08:22 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

heroes kindof feels like 3rd season lost, but with even less apparent direction. there needs to be things happening, and coherently so, pretty soon, or we might give up on it too. at this point, i'm totally fed up with hiro, who is an idiot, and have no idea what powers peter has right now. the whole sylar as nathan thing was preposterously dumb, and i'm glad they seem to've put a bullet into that. well, not entirely. i'm guessing its still nathan's brain in there, stuck now with sylar's good looks. i think the problem is that we've no idea who the protagonists are, who the antagonists are, what the conflicts are, and how all that is going. plus, claire is just awful. i wish she could die. the potential is still lurking in the show, but will the writers ever allow it to surface?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 02 2009 07:50 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="Centerfield"]Season 4 of Dexter kicked off last night and I am psyched. I would put Season 2 of that show up there with Season 3 of The Wire as some of the best stuff I've seen on TV. Last season, I thought, took a step back with the whole Jimmy Smits storyline, but this season looks to be a return to form. Pretty interesting storyline now with Dexter trying to handle the rigors of his job, his killing and his family life at home. John Lithgow looks positively creepy as this new killer. And they brought back Lundy, one of my favorite characters from Season 2. Last night was cool, the previews look good. Let's hope it doesn't suck.

Not really reading the quoted post since you all are way ahead, just wanted to say that we'd just finished Season 1 of Dexter on DVD and loved it. I mean, the way it all came together at the end (of course!) was kinda cheezy but overall great stuff. Batista was out-standing,

soupcan Nov 02 2009 09:49 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

I forget what Season 1 was about - tell me...

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2009 09:49 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

The Ice Truck Killer.

soupcan Nov 02 2009 09:52 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

That was Season 1? I was thinking it was 2, but now I remember what 2 was... I'm liking Lithgow so far.

metirish Nov 02 2009 09:54 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

I had Showtime when Dexter debuted and I watched the first show but had a real hard time trying ti reconcile the gay guy from Six Feet Under in his new role. I should rent it as most everyone raves about it.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2009 11:09 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="soupcan":1zvpqm5z]That was Season 1? I was thinking it was 2, but now I remember what 2 was... I'm liking Lithgow so far.[/quote:1zvpqm5z] Season 2 was the Bay Harbor Butcher. Season 3 was Jimmy Smits and the "Skinner". And Season 4 is "Trinity"

Centerfield Nov 02 2009 11:33 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

This show is really good.

metirish Nov 02 2009 11:43 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Modern Family Anyone watching...people say it's very good. Grim you had it on Tivo , did you wtach?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 02 2009 11:43 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Either I've gotten increasingly desperate for sports-alternative programming, or "Community" has actually hit its stride*. Whatshisface from "The Soup" has settled into a comfortably-pitched brand of smarmy, and Chevy Chase is the seasoning, not the meat. Meanwhile, the writing's progress from "check out this character, isn't he odd" to "we're-making-three-jokes-at-once, so-catch-what-you-can-on-the-first-pass," a multitiered thing that "Arrested Development" perfected in Seasons 1 and 2 (although we're a little ways from that sort of polish). *Just in time, too, as "30 Rock"-- certain set pieces aside-- has been alarmingly flat.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2009 11:46 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="metirish"]Modern Family Anyone watching...people say it's very good. Grim you had it on Tivo , did you wtach?

Not yet. I think we now have about seven unwatched episodes. We still haven't finished off some summer programming, like Entourage. We'll probably start some of the new shows after we finish off a few of the old ones. I've been hearing good things about it, though. And it's been picked up for a full season, which is a good sign. (Not of its quality, necessarily, but of its survival chances.)

Centerfield Nov 02 2009 12:57 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

I thought 30 Rock has been ok. I think How I Met Your Mother has been flat. I abandoned Heroes 2 episodes in.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 02 2009 01:20 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

It seems like 30 Rock appears to be wrestling with the network's direction-- all the "middle America" stuff-- which has been great when it's been dead-on (the "Tennis Night" intro, e.g.), but it's been walking the fine line between self-referential and self-indulgent. The Barney-Robin stuff seems to have sent How I Met Your Mother as far over the shark as the phrase "jump the shark." Oh, yeah, I'm done with Heroes, too. Haven't seen Modern Family yet-- don't get cable, and ABC doesn't come in clear on my set. If I get one more real-people recommendation, I'll be Hulu-ing that one.

Centerfield Nov 02 2009 01:25 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"] The Barney-Robin stuff seems to have sent How I Met Your Mother as far over the shark as the phrase "jump the shark."

I never understood the philosophy behind "Let's take the one thing that's funny about our show and undermine it"-line of thinking.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 02 2009 01:32 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="Centerfield"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"] The Barney-Robin stuff seems to have sent How I Met Your Mother as far over the shark as the phrase "jump the shark."

I never understood the philosophy behind "Let's take the one thing that's funny about our show and undermine it"-line of thinking. InDEED. It's almost never the result of new staff, either-- just the same old folk who brought the joy in squeezing the joy out (think Larry David's latter-day stint on "Seinfeld"). It's almost like the show runner or head writer or exec producer suddenly, subconsciously started hating the job, only it's way too lucrative/they're too scared to quit.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 02 2009 01:34 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

I saw one episode of Modern Family. It was no Arrested Development (by a long shot) but it was OK, kind of "The Office" meets a typical cyncial 00s TV family show. I had the feeling it wasn't necessarily the best effort that show could possibly give. I wouldn't have watched it at all had GLEE not already soared shark-infested waters with a leather jacket on.

metirish Nov 03 2009 07:08 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Watched V and liked it, enough to tune in next week. Their leader intrigues me.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 03 2009 09:11 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="metirish":s1mwxj84]Watched V and liked it, enough to tune in next week. Their leader intrigues me.[/quote:s1mwxj84] The chick from "Firefly"/"Serenity." Grrrrow.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 14 2009 06:06 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="soupcan":1qslnvy6]That was Season 1? I was thinking it was 2, but now I remember what 2 was... I'm liking Lithgow so far.[/quote:1qslnvy6] Just finished season 2 of Dexter. Slower start but better finish than season 1, I thought. Finally realized where I'd seen Harry (Dexter's father) before. He played Ajax in the Warriors!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 07 2009 07:58 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Finished Season 3 of Dexter over the weekend. I didn't like it quite as much as 1 & 2, though it was pretty good. Have you seen the clips from a new Will Arnett/David Cross show that's airing in England? This is funny stuff loaded with inappropriate language, so wear your headphones. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIF3Jo61xlE

Centerfield Dec 07 2009 08:13 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

I thought season 3 (that's the one with Jimmy Smits right?) was the weakest season. Season 4 is amazing. Can't wait for the finale on Sunday.

soupcan Dec 07 2009 08:36 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Yeah - season 4 has been really good. The ending to last night's episode was spine-tinglin'.

TransMonk Dec 14 2009 07:36 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Dexter's season finale blew my mind. WTF?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 14 2009 07:50 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Have you seen the clips from a new Will Arnett/David Cross show that's airing in England? This is funny stuff loaded with inappropriate language, so wear your headphones. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIF3Jo61xlE

Just caught this. I am heartened. Also, innat Spike Jonze getting abused by Arnett? I remember loving him in "Three Kings."

TransMonk Dec 14 2009 07:52 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

I've never felt a desire to be British as much as I do now. 3 minutes of this show is just not enough.

Centerfield Dec 14 2009 08:06 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="TransMonk":3rr16ts0]Dexter's season finale blew my mind. WTF?[/quote:3rr16ts0] Holy crap. Unreal. I still can't figure out if I liked it or not. Part of me says it's incredibly compelling, but part of me thinks they took the easy way out go churn in some extra oomph to it. Hard to say how the viewer should feel about Dexter now. I mean, this is completely on him, and his arrogance. I don't know. Still digesting it.

TransMonk Dec 14 2009 08:15 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

IIRC, the first 3 season finales were all nice and neat wrap ups to the season. I though it was ballsy to end on a spiral. I like it only because I didn't see it coming (even though the previous 10 minutes were full of foreshadowing that I just took as the normal rhetoric of the show).

Benjamin Grimm Dec 14 2009 08:23 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

DEXTER SPOILER WARNING! I knew that there was a big twist coming. (There had been advance buzz about that.) The biggest twist would have been to have Trinity kill Dexter, but I didn't think they'd do that. (I looked, and Dexter had already been picked up for a fifth season.) My guess was that Deb would discover that Dexter's been killing people. I was almost right, she did make a discovery about Dexter, but not the ultimate discovery. The Rita thing was... wow! I hope when the series resumes it picks up with the immediate aftermath, instead of nine months later. I'd be curious, among other things, to see if Dexter's colleagues speculate about why Rita may have been a target. Will Trinity's family be in and around the police station getting questioned (maybe not; the FBI took over the case) and if so, will "Kyle" have to find a way to avoid them? Also, I'm sure there will be plenty of hilarious hijinks next year, as Dexter juggles his two roles as a serial killer and a single dad. Maybe he can get John Stamos and Dave Coulier to move in with him to give him a helping hand.

soupcan Dec 15 2009 07:30 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="Benjamin Grimm"]DEXTER SPOILER WARNING! I knew that there was a big twist coming. (There had been advance buzz about that.) The biggest twist would have been to have Trinity kill Dexter, but I didn't think they'd do that. (I looked, and Dexter had already been picked up for a fifth season.) My guess was that Deb would discover that Dexter's been killing people. I was almost right, she did make a discovery about Dexter, but not the ultimate discovery. The Rita thing was... wow! I hope when the series resumes it picks up with the immediate aftermath, instead of nine months later. I'd be curious, among other things, to see if Dexter's colleagues speculate about why Rita may have been a target. Will Trinity's family be in and around the police station getting questioned (maybe not; the FBI took over the case) and if so, will "Kyle" have to find a way to avoid them? Also, I'm sure there will be plenty of hilarious hijinks next year, as Dexter juggles his two roles as a serial killer and a single dad. Maybe he can get John Stamos and Dave Coulier to move in with him to give him a helping hand.

Watched this last night and was floored like everyone else. I was thinking that Dexter could just cover up Rita's death so as not to involve the police and arouse suspicion as to why Trinity targeted Dexter. Rita could just 'disappear'. Not like Dexter's never done that. It could be plausible - what with the recent marriage counseling and her kissing the neighbor. I don't like the prospect of Dexter having three kids next season, but Rita's could go off to live with the 'goofy grandparents' (were those supposedly her ex-husband's folks?). One baby could be good but the other two would just be annoying.

metirish Dec 15 2009 07:50 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Jersey Shore.......watch orange people get hammered at the Shore

Fman99 Jan 02 2010 08:48 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

"Hoarders." Feel better about those piles of laundry and/or books in your house. This is utterly fascinating stuff.

HahnSolo Jan 29 2010 09:57 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Anybody beside me really liking "Archer" on FX?

metirish Jan 29 2010 10:03 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="Fman99":1a0zcry8]"Hoarders." Feel better about those piles of laundry and/or books in your house. This is utterly fascinating stuff.[/quote:1a0zcry8] Utterly amazing right? , whole families in denial about what's going on in their homes.

Ashie62 Jan 29 2010 10:43 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Damages-Glenn Close Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares starts tonight Breaking Bad-one month Sons of Anarchy signed for 3rd year with a second unit budgeted for Ireland to find Jacks' son

Fman99 Jan 29 2010 11:36 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="metirish":mlhihdrq][quote="Fman99":mlhihdrq]"Hoarders." Feel better about those piles of laundry and/or books in your house. This is utterly fascinating stuff.[/quote:mlhihdrq] Utterly amazing right? , whole families in denial about what's going on in their homes.[/quote:mlhihdrq] Yeah. My favorite types are those (usually older folks) that are reluctant to throw away the garbagiest of stuff. What? You were going to toss that soda bottle? WITHOUT CHECKING WITH ME FIRST? HOW DARE YOU SIR.

dgwphotography Jan 29 2010 12:20 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

My parents always warn me about how much fun I'm going to have cleaning out their house. Don't get me wrong - it's immaculate, but some of the things my father still has in the attic...

Ashie62 Jan 29 2010 03:56 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="dgwphotography"]My parents always warn me about how much fun I'm going to have cleaning out their house. Don't get me wrong - it's immaculate, but some of the things my father still has in the attic...

Just what doesyour father have in the attic?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 29 2010 06:12 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

"Dollhouse," for those who like Joss Whedon stuff finally started to hit its stride this season (its "second"). Unfortunately, it ends tonight. Pretty much par for the course with his stuff, this early-exit business ("Buffy" aside).

dgwphotography Jan 29 2010 07:13 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

[quote="Ashie62"][quote="dgwphotography"]My parents always warn me about how much fun I'm going to have cleaning out their house. Don't get me wrong - it's immaculate, but some of the things my father still has in the attic...

Just what doesyour father have in the attic? For example, 3 straight years of Popular Science magazine - from the 50's...

dgwphotography Jan 29 2010 07:14 PM Re: Any Good New Shows?

I just love Chuck..

MFS62 Jan 30 2010 08:53 AM Re: Any Good New Shows?

Saw the second episode of Spartacus. A tad less gore, a tad more acting, working hard to develop plot lines for furure episodes. It was decent enough to make me want to see episode #3. Oh, and if you liked the first episode for what it was, you saw a brief, and distant, shot of Lucy Lawless' nekked arse. Later