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Kong76
Oct 29 2008 06:06 PM

The first woman showing the shelves of the fridge door and who can have
what and they know it's all they got was enough for me ...

Kong76
Oct 29 2008 06:38 PM

Does a half hour commercial rev up things, get new voters, or is it a total
turn off that this guy has so much in contributions that he can shut down
network television for a half hour?

I think everyone knows he's gonna be the next prez, I find it a turn off.

Edgy DC
Oct 29 2008 06:40 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Oct 29 2008 06:41 PM

It's exciting. Will the Barack Obacklash blow the whole thing when it seemed he had it in the bag? Will people wonder, if they vote this guy in, will he take away their beloved television programs?

DRAMA!

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 29 2008 06:41 PM

I caught the last 15 minutes.

Pretty much what I expected. It might humanize him to some people who were inclined to think of him as a scary terrorist, but I doubt that many of those were watching, or are very open-minded.

I doubt it has much impact either way.

Kong76
Oct 29 2008 06:45 PM

EDC: It's exciting <<<

I can't wait for next Wednesday and I pray to all known and unknown gods
that there is no state with any vote counting controversy that will drag things on longer!

seawolf17
Oct 29 2008 06:48 PM

Ra-alph Na-der... CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP.

themetfairy
Oct 29 2008 06:49 PM

="KC"]EDC: It's exciting <<<

I can't wait for next Wednesday and I pray to all known and unknown gods
that there is no state with any vote counting controversy that will drag things on longer!


Word!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 29 2008 07:03 PM

Are they booing Smithers?

No, they're saying Boo-rack

Nymr83
Oct 29 2008 07:26 PM

this sets a horrible precedent for broadcast (non-cable) television. the can of worms has been opened and you arent going to shut it easily.

Coming soon to all 5 channels near you, Mayor Bloomberg presents: I Hate Term Limits

Willets Point
Oct 29 2008 07:55 PM

Nymr83 wrote:
this sets a horrible precedent for broadcast (non-cable) television. the can of worms has been opened and you arent going to shut it easily.


It's nothing new. Perot (remember him?) did it 16 years ago.

metsguyinmichigan
Oct 29 2008 08:18 PM

Willets Point wrote:
="Nymr83"]this sets a horrible precedent for broadcast (non-cable) television. the can of worms has been opened and you arent going to shut it easily.


It's nothing new. Perot (remember him?) did it 16 years ago.


But note that we are not referring to him as "former President Ross Perot."

SteveJRogers
Oct 29 2008 08:27 PM
Re: IG Obama Commercial T

KC wrote:
The first woman showing the shelves of the fridge door and who can have
what and they know it's all they got was enough for me ...


You're scaring me Kase, I was the same way, and went back to watching Seinfeld Season 9 DVD commentaries!

seawolf17
Oct 29 2008 08:42 PM

="metsguyinmichigan"]
="Willets Point"]
="Nymr83"]this sets a horrible precedent for broadcast (non-cable) television. the can of worms has been opened and you arent going to shut it easily.


It's nothing new. Perot (remember him?) did it 16 years ago.


But note that we are not referring to him as "former President Ross Perot."


Well, maybe you're not.

TransMonk
Oct 29 2008 09:30 PM

I thought it was fine...not going to change any minds that were already made up, but provided some useful prop for morons living in a hole for the past 2 years that supposedly make up enough of the electorate that McCain hasn't given up yet.

I've grown to really like Obama since the conventions. Granted, I would have voted for him anyway, but he's stayed consistent in my mind and hasn't cracked much under the pressure.

Kudos to Obama for not mentioning McCain once in the 30 minutes. I have a hard time believing that McCain could go a half an hour without saying the words "Senator Obama", "my opponent" or "that one".

Nymr83
Oct 29 2008 11:48 PM

Of course he can't, he's trailing in the polls and facing a political climate of general hostility to his party. We knew from the beginning that to win McCain had to paint Obama as exactly what he is- inexperienced and extremely liberal.
I think McCain is the only one (out of the field that entered the Republican primaries with any chance at all) who would be doing this well right now.

Gwreck
Oct 30 2008 12:05 AM

Romney?

And if not at the top of the ticket, I think it goes without saying that a McCain-Romney ticket would probably be doing better as well.

Iubitul
Oct 30 2008 04:49 AM

Thank God for TiVo...

Edgy DC
Oct 30 2008 06:16 AM

="Nymr83"]I think McCain is the only one (out of the field that entered the Republican primaries with any chance at all) who would be doing this well right now.


I'm going to disagree. There's two problems with the McCain campaign that aren't external:

1) He professed to take the high road early on, largely laying off of negative attacks, decaring the comments of Obama's pastor and his wife off base, running on his record rather than on conservative ideology (and willing to take the heat in front of audiences and the press where these two diverged), and not changing to suit the situation. Since taking Palin on board, expanding the size of his rallies tremendously, and briefly tying Obama in the polls, that's all gone out the window. And he became mostly inaccessible to the press.

It's certainly a valid campaign theme to paint his opponent as coming from a far-left coalition out of step with American values and hostile to the very institutions he would take over, but starting that theme so late in the game, it came across as weak and desperate.

I think historians will be talking about this switch for a long time.

2) He's looked ocasionally confused and forced while Obama has seem cool and poised. Americans are, in part, looking for a steady hand on the tiller and Obama has impressed by that score.

Another guy may not have erred in these ways.

TransMonk
Oct 30 2008 06:42 AM

Agreed.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 30 2008 07:07 AM

I agree with Namor that, on paper anyway, McCain was the guy who'd have the best chance to beat Obama.

But he has run an awful campaign. Another candidate running a smarter campaign might have had a much better chance of winning. I'm not sure who that would have been, though. Romney? Huckabee? Guiliani?

sharpie
Oct 30 2008 08:08 AM

Had McCain run as the McCain of 2000 he would've done much better. He was too scared of his right flank for the primaries however so he thought he had to tack right -- I'm not sure I agree. I think running on the left end of the Republican party is a winner, just as Bill Clinton ran at the right end of the Democratic Party. I do think that the wave of history is running against McCain this time.

Both Kennedy and Nixon ran half hour commercials right before the election. It used to be the normal thing to do.

cooby
Oct 30 2008 05:55 PM

="KC"]EDC: It's exciting <<<

I can't wait for next Wednesday and I pray to all known and unknown gods
that there is no state with any vote counting controversy that will drag things on longer!


And then she can finally sit down and shut up and go home and look at Russia all day.

Kong76
Oct 30 2008 06:25 PM

I haven't said anything pro-Alaskan-candidate other than she has a nice rack.

Why get bitter with me?

cooby
Oct 30 2008 06:29 PM

Now KC, don't be paranoid. I am not bitter with you, only sick of Miss Cornball.

Kong76
Oct 30 2008 06:46 PM

**censored because cooby carries more weight here than me**

cooby
Oct 30 2008 06:51 PM

I doubt that

Kong76
Oct 30 2008 06:55 PM

I'd get five PM's/emails before the ink dried.

cooby
Oct 30 2008 07:18 PM

KC, I didn't even realize who I was quoting so I am sorry if you took it the wrong way :(
All I really meant was that I agreed; I will be glad when it is all over.