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Frayed Knot Nov 10 2008 12:55 PM

Evan Longoria and Geovany Soto

Benjamin Grimm Nov 10 2008 01:00 PM

I'd really love to see the Mets have a viable candidate one of these years. I think Daniel Murphy has just a little bit too much playing time to be eligible next year. Maybe Jon Niese will have a shot.

attgig Nov 10 2008 01:16 PM

I'm convinced as long as minaya is around, he'll never trust a rookie with a starting job. if it's going to be anyone, it'll be a #5 pitcher that surprises everyone. but even that, I'm afraid of aging veterans that Minaya always seems to sign for that role. Even this year, Pelfrey was supposed to be left out, and Hernandez was going to be the #5.

Frayed Knot Nov 10 2008 01:27 PM

Player 1st 2nd 3rd Points Longoria 28 0 0 140 Ramirez (2B Chi) 0 18 5 59 Ellsbury 0 7 5 26 Also: Mike Aviles - Royals (9) Armando Galaraga - Tigers (9) Joey Devine - Oakland (3) Denard Span - Twins (3) Nick Blackbrun - Twins (1) Joba Chamberlain - Yanx (1) Brad Ziegler - A's (1) Player 1st 2nd 3rd Points Soto 31 1 0 158 Votto 1 21 8 76 Jurrgens 0 6 16 34 Also: Edison Volquez - Reds (9) Jay Bruce - Reds (7) Kosuke Fukudome - Cubs (4)

Frayed Knot Nov 10 2008 01:38 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 10 2008 01:48 PM

attgig wrote: I'm convinced as long as minaya is around, he'll never trust a rookie with a starting job. if it's going to be anyone, it'll be a #5 pitcher that surprises everyone. but even that, I'm afraid of aging veterans that Minaya always seems to sign for that role. Even this year, Pelfrey was supposed to be left out, and Hernandez was going to be the #5. I'm not sure Minaya has shown himself to be either more or less trustful with rookies as compared to your average GM. After all, it's not like Pelfrey did a whole lot in '07 to warrent a spot being set aside for him. ROYs are often a matter of timing as much as anything. Reyes & Wright were both capable but came up in mid-season which dims if not kills the chances. Milledge and Gomez both were brought up before they were ready due to injuries elsewhere. Pelfrey just took some time to establish himself like rookies often do. I mean, nice year from Geovany Soto but he also turns 26 this off-season and has been in the Cubs system since 2001 including at AAA since 2005. So exactly how much were they trusting him?

G-Fafif Nov 10 2008 01:43 PM

Volquez wasn't eligible based on previous experience with Texas. Strange that BBWAA members wouldn't bother to ascertain that.

smg58 Nov 10 2008 01:47 PM

attgig wrote: I'm convinced as long as minaya is around, he'll never trust a rookie with a starting job. if it's going to be anyone, it'll be a #5 pitcher that surprises everyone. but even that, I'm afraid of aging veterans that Minaya always seems to sign for that role. Even this year, Pelfrey was supposed to be left out, and Hernandez was going to be the #5. But Pelfrey WAS given the job in 07, and it turned out to be a year too early. I'm worried that a similar mistake will be made with Jon Niese.

Edgy DC Nov 10 2008 02:09 PM

In order to qualify for the RoY award, a player can not have accumulated as many as 130 at-bats in previous seasons. Danny Murphy: 131 at-bats in 2008. Niese, Fartinez, kunz and Parnell are your best bets in 2009.

Nymr83 Nov 10 2008 03:17 PM

]But Pelfrey WAS given the job in 07, and it turned out to be a year too early. I'm worried that a similar mistake will be made with Jon Niese. If he'd spent '07 in the minors maybe '08 would have been a sucky learning-curve year in the majors for him, theres really no way of knowing.

metsguyinmichigan Nov 10 2008 03:22 PM

G-Fafif wrote: Volquez wasn't eligible based on previous experience with Texas. Strange that BBWAA members wouldn't bother to ascertain that. I was wondering about that....

Nymr83 Nov 10 2008 03:25 PM

well we knew they were idiots. the ballot should be taken away from anyone who voted for an ineligible player, voted for Palmiero's gold glove, or voted for a yankee.