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To Arb or not to arb

Frayed Knot
Dec 02 2008 08:36 AM

Yes to Ollie.
No to all other FAs, including Pedro. Ayala, Easley, Duque, Alou

Certainly no surprises.
The rule which barred a team from negotiating with their own FAs they didn't offer arb doesn't exist anymore meaning that a return of any or all of the above is still possible, it'll just have to come via a negotiated settlement rather than an automatic trigger.

And it means that if Ollie signs elsewhere it would net us a draft pick plus a supplemental (anywhere from the upper teens to as late as the 40s and 50s depending on various conditions).
Of course our 1st round pick (25th) will almost certainly wind up property of someone else before the winter is out.

Nymr83
Dec 02 2008 08:40 AM

I'd offer Perez arbitration for sure, I don't want to give a longterm deal to him he's just too wild and inconsistent, but another year would be fine and so would the draft picks if he refuses.

Don't offer to any of the other guys. The closest would be Easley I think.

Edgy DC
Dec 02 2008 08:42 AM

I think he's stating facts here, not opinions. The Mets have offered to Ollie, but no one else.

Nymr83
Dec 02 2008 08:51 AM

has the deadline to offer passed this morning?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 02 2008 08:56 AM

Yes and the deadline to accept is Sunday.

Just about every FA the Mets have been romantically linked to have also been offered arbitration: Fuentes, Rodriguez, Hudson etc etc

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 02 2008 08:57 AM

I believe it has.

I would have considered offering to Ayala, but I don't mind that they didn't.

I think, under the previous rule, the Mets would have had until January 8 to negotiate with the players to whom they didn't offer arbitration. Now it looks like they can still talk to them until they're signed, however long that may take.

Edgy DC
Dec 02 2008 09:02 AM

Question: who was the last player to break in with the Mets and make it to arbitration eligibility?

'Cuz Heilman has a chance if he can live one more year.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 02 2008 09:06 AM

Just a guess here...

Jae Seo?

Frayed Knot
Dec 02 2008 09:09 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 02 2008 09:14 AM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1aur0ft1]Just about every FA the Mets have been romantically linked to have also been offered arbitration: Fuentes, Rodriguez, Hudson etc etc[/quote:1aur0ft1]

But not K. Wood, A. Dunn. A. Pettitte, T. Hoffman, or B. Abreu
Not that those romantic links have been scrawled on as many bathroom walls, but any of them are possible and maybe slightly more possible now that the "price" is lowered. Of course the price being lowered maybe means the price goes up ifyouknowwhatimean.

Frayed Knot
Dec 02 2008 09:13 AM

="Edgy DC"]Question: who was the last player to break in with the Mets and make it to arbitration eligibility? 'Cuz Heilman has a chance if he can live one more year.


Heilman already IS arb-eligible and was last year too.

Last night's deadline only has to do with offering arbitration to potential FAs

Edgy DC
Dec 02 2008 09:33 AM

Well there I am.

I guess the real curiosity then is anybody who came up with the Mets and made it to free agency.

Nymr83
Dec 02 2008 09:37 AM

Edgardo Alfonzo?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 02 2008 09:38 AM

Well there was Fonzie and Rey-O, and they had their first years bought out just like Reyes and Wright now, but neither got a FA contract from the Mets.

Gwreck
Dec 02 2008 10:51 AM

Both of whom were initially signed as amateur free agents.

The last player whom the Mets drafted, signed, and made it to free agency was....Bobby Jones?

Nymr83
Dec 02 2008 03:05 PM

wait are we talking made it to free agency while still a Met or made it and then re-signed with the Mets?

Jones is probably the last draftee. Before that Todd Hundley?

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 08 2008 07:42 AM

Of all free-agent players offered arbitration this fall, only two have accepted, and both are ex-Mets: Darren Oliver of the Angels and Dave Weathers of the Reds.