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Preferred Starting Pitcher

Derek Lowe

16 votes

Oliver Perez

13 votes

Randy Wolf

1 votes

Benjamin Grimm Dec 28 2008 10:04 AM

Of the three guys most rumored to be signed for the Met rotation in the coming weeks, which one would you prefer?

smg58 Dec 28 2008 10:24 AM

I went with Lowe because he's the best pitcher of the three, but I still wouldn't go four years with him.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 28 2008 10:34 AM

Me too.

Edgy DC Dec 28 2008 01:15 PM

Perez Wolf Lowe.

Rockin' Doc Dec 28 2008 01:47 PM

I'm hoping that as the market collapses out from under the remaining free agents that the Mets will be able to sign Perez and Wolf for little more than what Lowe and his agent originally were expecting to take in per annum. Not likely, but that would be a perfect scenarion in my view. Still, I voted Lowe in this poll because I feel he is the surest, most consistent performer of the group.

Fman99 Dec 28 2008 01:50 PM

A or B, but not C. I'd rather see them give young arms a shot at sticking in that 5th spot and/or sign cheaper (than Wolf) free agent "talent" to fill out the rotation.

metirish Dec 28 2008 02:08 PM

I voted Perez , he's young and has the potential to be very good. I like Lowe but not for three years.

Frayed Knot Dec 28 2008 05:35 PM

Depends on the deal obviously. If available for reasonable terms (the definition of which varies between the three pitchers) I'd go Perez - Lowe - Wolf in that order.

soupcan Dec 28 2008 06:24 PM

Perez. Going with 'the devil you know' theory.

Zvon Dec 28 2008 08:23 PM

I'd like another lefty in the rotation, and I'm partial to Perez, but in a simple poll like this I'd go with the ground ball inducing Lowe. There's no doubt he's the best of the three in many categories.

Nymr83 Dec 28 2008 08:54 PM

I voted for Lowe but thats only based on who I'd rather have for 2009. If we're talking about a longterm deal (which it will likely take to get any of these guys) I'd rather have the younger Perez.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2008 07:06 AM

By the way, Louie Perez, Peter Wolf, and Nick Lowe would make a great start to a rock band lineup.

sharpie Dec 29 2008 08:10 AM

Who voted Wolf?

Centerfield Dec 29 2008 08:36 AM

Randy's mom must be a lurker here.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2008 09:04 AM

Remember that Lunchbucket is an honorary member of the Wolfpack.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 29 2008 09:15 AM

Yes, but I voted Ollie. I do think Wolf is an underrated guy; when healthy he's been solid, and in retrospect we're world champeens if Omar had only went and got him last summer, instead of crossing his fingers and watching Pedro get his ass kicked a dozen times. So, I'm in favor of signing Ollie AND Wofie

attgig Dec 29 2008 09:33 AM

just reading up olney's blog, and he lists out a couple of possible flyers to consider. one being Mark Mulder. I would think after signing one of these 3 as our #4, Mulder would be a great #5 option to compete with Niese. incentive deal, perhaps looking like Penny's deal, but lower starting salary, and higher bonuses? link: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/ind ... ney_buster (he also suggest Millar as a bench guy + possible platoon with delgado)

A Boy Named Seo Dec 29 2008 11:13 AM

I think I'm now off the Lowe bandwagon altogether. He is probably the better choice than Ollie for 2009, but if one of these guys is getting a 4-year deal, I want it to be the one turning 27 this year, not the one turning 36. Question, Rodriguez was a type A free agent, right? Assuming he was, and our first round pick now goes to the Angels, what happens if we signed another type A guy like Lowe? Supplemental? Ollie for 4 and Ben Sheets for a hefty 1 year would be my deal.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2008 11:20 AM

I am so down with you that I hope nobody takes a photo.

A Boy Named Seo Dec 29 2008 11:40 AM

="Edgy DC":9yzuwet4]I am so down with you that I hope nobody takes a photo.[/quote:9yzuwet4] Oh, baby. Noble covers a [url=http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081229&content_id=3729575&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp&partnerId=rss_mlb:9yzuwet4]lot of ground[/url:9yzuwet4]today: -Mets still like Lowe a bit more than Ollie. Wolf still in the mix. -Lowe is a type A FA and would cost us a supplemental because our #1 already goes to the Angels for Rodriguez. -Mets like Alex Cora. -Omar's not freaking out about the need for another lefty, but thinks he can get one on the cheap if he has to. metirish Dec 29 2008 11:54 AM " Look , the question I axe myself is , do I think we need another starter.Yes we do because as things stand on this day we have four starters so that means I need to get another one or maybe two because we don't know what this young guys will bring , now do I go and fill that via free agency or a trade? I will tell you this , I do prefer to go via free agency " Omar being cryptic as usual. Edgy DC Dec 29 2008 11:57 AM Thing is that Ollie costs us a pick also, because by signing him the Mets sacrifice the pick that would be coming back to them as compensation. We're not generally talking first rounders here, because the Mets already sacrificed theirs at the alter of K-Rod. Question is: if the Mets sign Lowe, do they give up their second rounder to the Dodgers, even if the team grabbing Ollie gives them a first rounder? Or do the Dodgers get that pick instead of the Mets sloppy seconds? soupcan Dec 29 2008 12:03 PM Did someone say 'sloppy seconds?' A Boy Named Seo Dec 29 2008 12:04 PM Hummina, hummina, hummina. Edgy had a good question, but I don't remember what it was now. Benjamin Grimm Dec 29 2008 12:22 PM You'd best be careful what you say about Jack Bauer's daughter. Frayed Knot Dec 29 2008 12:42 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Dec 29 2008 12:48 PM ="Edgy DC"]Thing is that Ollie costs us a pick also, because by signing him the Mets sacrifice the pick that would be coming back to them as compensation. That's one way of looking at it. Two picks actually: the one they'd get from a signing team plus the supp. ]Question is: if the Mets sign Lowe, do they give up their second rounder to the Dodgers, even if the team grabbing Ollie gives them a first rounder? Or do the Dodgers get that pick instead of the Mets sloppy seconds? Signing Lowe means that the team with the better rated FA between Rodriguez & Lowe (I'm assuming it's KRod) would get the Met 1st round pick while the other gets our 2nd rounder. See also the discussion in the Teixeira thread. Whatever picks a team gains from losing a FA are untouchable by other teams. ="Seo"]Lowe is a type A FA and would cost us a supplemental because our #1 already goes to the Angels for Rodriguez. Not quite - see above or re-read Noble. Supplemental picks are just that, extra picks gained for losing a FA or not signing a draft pick from the last draft, and they're not subject to being lost. The Mets would lose their 2nd rounder for inking Lowe in addition to their 1st for Rodriguez. On the other hand they'd gain [Team X's] 1st or 2nd round pick (subject to several conditions) plus a supplemental if Ollie walks so it would come out pretty much even. Hypothetical: - Mets lose 1st round pick (~#25) to Angels for KRod - Mets lose 2nd round pick (~#70?) to Dodgers for Lowe - Mets gain 1st or 2nd from Team X (as low as #16, maybe as high as #80) for losing Ollie plus a supplemental (#35-ish) Keeping Ollie and making no other compensation-required FA signings means only the 1st round loss to LAA Frayed Knot Dec 29 2008 12:45 PM So is that the hockey gf that was subject to the 'sloppy seconds' talk of a few weeks back? Cuthbert, or whatever? A Boy Named Seo Dec 29 2008 12:50 PM FK, thank you for straightening me out on that. Also, how in the F do you know all that shit? soupcan Dec 29 2008 12:50 PM Elisha Cuthbert - yup that's her. Ashie62 Dec 29 2008 06:04 PM Derek Lowe has 2 years 144K each 201 IP 197 IP 55W 49W Olilie can't match that comp Ashie62 Dec 29 2008 06:07 PM ="Edgy DC":3qs4das5]Thing is that Ollie costs us a pick also, because by signing him the Mets sacrifice the pick that would be coming back to them as compensation. We're not generally talking first rounders here, because the Mets already sacrificed theirs at the alter of K-Rod. Question is: if the Mets sign Lowe, do they give up their second rounder to the Dodgers, even if the team grabbing Ollie gives them a first rounder? Or do the Dodgers get that pick instead of the Mets sloppy seconds?[/quote:3qs4das5] How many picks lead to anything..very overrated to me A Boy Named Seo Dec 29 2008 06:15 PM ="Ashie62":1nnnza57] ="Edgy DC":1nnnza57]Thing is that Ollie costs us a pick also, because by signing him the Mets sacrifice the pick that would be coming back to them as compensation. We're not generally talking first rounders here, because the Mets already sacrificed theirs at the alter of K-Rod. Question is: if the Mets sign Lowe, do they give up their second rounder to the Dodgers, even if the team grabbing Ollie gives them a first rounder? Or do the Dodgers get that pick instead of the Mets sloppy seconds?[/quote:1nnnza57] How many picks lead to anything..very overrated to me[/quote:1nnnza57] That David Wright's OK.