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WSo8M: (2) The Karate Kid v. (6) The Terminator


(2) The Karate Kid 15 votes

(6) The Terminator 15 votes

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 15 2008 10:28 AM

The match you've been waiting your whole violent life for.

Karate Kid chopped its way into the Sweet 16 past Pee-Wee's Big Adventure and E.T. The Terminator said FU Asshole to Blade Runner and the Naked Gun.

(2) The Karate Kid
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(6) The Terminator
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themetfairy
Dec 15 2008 10:53 AM

Karate Kid for me.

Edgy DC
Dec 15 2008 10:54 AM

Karate Kid hurt by sequels.

Terminator enhanced.

themetfairy
Dec 15 2008 10:57 AM

="Edgy DC"]Karate Kid hurt by sequels. Terminator enhanced.


But we're only voting on the original films, right?

Edgy DC
Dec 15 2008 11:00 AM

Of course.

soupcan
Dec 15 2008 11:19 AM

Tough one and the voting to this point reflects that.

Hmmmmmmm.

"Sweep the leg!" or 'Ah'll be bach."?

'Cobra Kai!' or 'Sarah Connah?'?

I do not know.

sharpie
Dec 15 2008 12:02 PM

Still pissed at KK for ousting Pee-Wee. Terminate it with extreme prejudice I say.

sharpie
Dec 15 2008 12:03 PM

Terminate with extreme prejudice.

Still pissed at KK for ousting PeeWee.

Vic Sage
Dec 15 2008 02:00 PM

KK is sentimental claptrap that was dubious in its day and now is all but unwatchable.

TERMINATOR was a game changer, and launched Cameron's career. Still looks great, and still a compelling adventure.

MFS62
Dec 15 2008 02:46 PM

Even if the Terminator loses, I get the feeling he'll (or is it "it'll"?)
be back.

Later

soupcan
Dec 15 2008 03:02 PM

Terminated.

Elster88
Dec 15 2008 08:04 PM
Re: WSo8M: (2) The Karate Kid v. (6) The Terminator

So the sentimental claptrap now includes E.T., Field of Dreams, and Karate Kid.

Does anyone hate puppies?


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Edgy DC
Dec 15 2008 08:09 PM

In fairness, Sage defends E.T.

I think all those films have taken that hit. But not from the same sources.

Elster88
Dec 15 2008 08:13 PM

Yeah that's kind of my point. Diff'rent strokes I guess.

Speaking of which when does the WS of '80s TV tournament start?

Elster88
Dec 15 2008 08:21 PM

I always get fired up from that clip. I just broke my foot crane kicking the wall.

And the memories of Elisabeth Shue...I want to put that version of her on a pillow, fan her with a giant feather and feed her grapes. They say you never forget your first love. How she went for a weenie like Daniel is beyond me.

Edgy DC
Dec 15 2008 08:27 PM

="Elster88":zhh3diyz]Yeah that's kind of my point. Diff'rent strokes I guess. Speaking of which when does the WS of '80s TV tournament start?[/quote:zhh3diyz]

I was going to set up a World Series of 1985 songs.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 15 2008 08:35 PM

Shout
Shout
Let it all out

HahnSolo
Dec 16 2008 06:38 AM

="Elster88":35vdvucs]Yeah that's kind of my point. Diff'rent strokes I guess. Speaking of which when does the WS of '80s TV tournament start?[/quote:35vdvucs]

Vinnie from Doogie Howser versus Boner from Growing Pains...who ya got?

Frayed Knot
Dec 16 2008 06:44 AM

="Elster88":3fouidk6]Speaking of which when does the WS of '80s TV tournament start?[/quote:3fouidk6]

As soon as you start it.

Fman99
Dec 16 2008 01:33 PM

="Elster88":3rr8ym9x]I always get fired up from that clip. I just broke my foot crane kicking the wall. And the memories of Elisabeth Shue...I want to put that version of her on a pillow, fan her with a giant feather and feed her grapes. They say you never forget your first love. How she went for a weenie like Daniel is beyond me.[/quote:3rr8ym9x]

Absolutely.

This, and William Zabka and the rest of the crazy-ass Cobra Kai, continue to get my vote.

Linda Hamilton went from dishevelled in T1 to butch in T2 without stopping at "hot."

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 18 2008 07:52 AM

2 hours left to vote in this one. What a fight!

metsmarathon
Dec 18 2008 08:28 AM

if only m.e.t.b.o.t. were programmed to participate in wsom voting as well...

sharpie
Dec 18 2008 09:47 AM

So if it's a tie do we vote on sequels?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 18 2008 09:49 AM

No, ties go to the Council of Elders. I'll have to look up who they are again...

Edit --

Reviews from Roger Ebert, Filmcritic.com, and Reel.com, with the film with the preponderance of higher scores declared the winner.

Edgy DC
Dec 18 2008 10:26 AM

I told you. Irresistiable force. Immoveable object.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 18 2008 10:52 AM

Well, the witching hour has passed and this remains a tie.

However, the Council of Elders has proven problematic in finding like-for-like reviews.

Roger Ebert reviews KK but not Terminatore, while Reel and FilmCritics have ratings on Terminator but not KK.

So I had to dig deeper. Janet Maslin of the Times; Variety magazine and Dave Kehr of the Chicago Reader reviewed both but none give easily comparable number scores.

Maslin:
]'The Terminator,'' which opens today at Loews State and other theaters, is a B-movie with flair. Much of it, as directed by James Cameron (''Piranha II''), has suspense and personality, and only the obligatory mayhem becomes dull.
]'The Karate Kid,'' which opens today at the Ziegfeld and other theaters, has the makings of a genuinely heart-warming two-man drama, with Mr. Morita a charming cut-up and Mr. Macchio gently likable in the Robby Benson role. But neither the director, John G. Avildsen, nor the screenwriter, Robert Mark Kamen, is content to leave well enough alone.
Variety:
]The Terminator is a blazing, cinematic comic book, full of virtuoso moviemaking, terrific momentum, solid performances and a compelling story.
]John G. Avildsen is back in the Rocky ring with The Karate Kid. More precisely, it is a Rocky for kids.
Kehr:
]Schwarzenegger is presented as a lumbering slab of dumb, destructive strength-the image is more geological than human-and Cameron plays his crushing weightiness against the strangely light, almost graceful violence of the gunplay directed against him. The results have the air of a demented ballet.
]John G. Avildsen's film is a cunning commercial blend of Rocky's revenge fantasies and Steven Spielberg's family melodrama: the elderly Oriental, as cuddly as E.T., becomes a benign substitute for Macchio's mysteriously missing father. As in the Rocky films, Avildsen's only directorial strategy is to delay the final confrontation for so long that all of the audience's pent-up frustration explodes with it.


That's three slightly more favorable reviews for Termintor, plus something called Qwipster's Moview Reviews gives Term a 5/5 and KK a 3.5/5

TERMINATOR wins in overtime!

Willets Point
Dec 18 2008 11:25 AM

You could probably save yourself some time and effort by using the <a href="http://www.rottentomatoes.com/">Tomatometer</a>

Edgy DC
Dec 18 2008 11:28 AM

Terminator wins there 100-89.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 18 2008 11:28 AM

I looked at that too, helped link to critics. The meter itself, I dunno. Not nuanced enough.

Vic Sage
Dec 18 2008 03:28 PM

or you could have just asked me...