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Frayed Knot
Dec 16 2008 06:53 AM

Caroline Kennedy Schlosberg who, as far as I can remember, has been using and has been referred to by that name during the length of her long-running marriage, is suddenly known only as Caroline Kennedy now that a Senate seat is open.
I haven't heard the name Schlosberg once from the media during this whole ordeal.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 16 2008 07:08 AM

Yeah, I noticed that too.

I'm hoping she doesn't get the seat. It's one thing if a celebrity runs for office and gets elected by the voters, like the governor in California who's name I'm not sure I can spell. But I don't like the idea of appointing a celebrity when there are many long-serving and more qualified New Yorkers in the Congress and throughout the state.

Edgy DC
Dec 16 2008 07:09 AM

I heard John Cougar Lunchbucket dropped the Lunchbucket and got a recording contract the next week.

metirish
Dec 16 2008 07:13 AM

I've seen her husband referred to several times on the TV , in the Daily news today the Michael Daly column mentions him a few times , but yeah probably better to run with the name Kennedy than Schlosberg .

themetfairy
Dec 16 2008 07:15 AM

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Kennedy#Personal_life]Wikipedia[/url], fwiw, says that she never changed her name -

]Although she is often incorrectly referred to as "Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg", she did not change her name when she married.

Edgy DC
Dec 16 2008 07:15 AM

She's not running. She's soliciting.

MFS62
Dec 16 2008 07:19 AM

I was at the wedding in Hyannis.
Later

metirish
Dec 16 2008 07:25 AM

="MFS62":2yrkypdc]I was at the wedding in Hyannis. Later[/quote:2yrkypdc]


Do tell please, were you working security or the buffet table?

soupcan
Dec 16 2008 07:53 AM

="MFS62":yd9s94qb]I was at the wedding in Hyannis. Later[/quote:yd9s94qb]

MFS subtly throwing down the 'I know more semi-famous people than you do' gauntlet at me.

Farmer Ted
Dec 16 2008 07:59 AM

I was always curious about CKS. Take a look at her. Go ahead. Not one inkling of a resemblance to JFK or JLBKO, IMHO.

Oliver Stone needs to investigate.

G-Fafif
Dec 16 2008 08:04 AM

Free agent big-time closers, celebrity replacement senators...New York loves its stars!

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 16 2008 08:13 AM

="Farmer Ted":p9u5xrb4]I was always curious about CKS. Take a look at her. Go ahead. Not one inkling of a resemblance to JFK or JLBKO, IMHO. Oliver Stone needs to investigate.[/quote:p9u5xrb4]

You don't think she looks like a Kennedy?

It's her misfortune that instead of inheriting her mother's looks, she ended up looking like her Uncle Bobby.

HahnSolo
Dec 16 2008 09:14 AM

She's written and/or edited a number of books. I believe she is published as Caroline Kennedy on all of them. No Schlosberg.

seawolf17
Dec 16 2008 09:43 AM

="MFS62":1nqqwgze]I was at the wedding in Hyannis. Later[/quote:1nqqwgze]

So was Valadius's dad.

soupcan
Dec 16 2008 10:36 AM

="seawolf17":3suew6eu]So was Valadius's dad.[/quote:3suew6eu]


Bam!

metirish
Dec 16 2008 11:17 AM

I wonder what her theme song will be.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 16 2008 11:29 AM

Cracklin' Rose?

MFS62
Dec 17 2008 06:45 AM

I've posted the story of how I got there before.
It was by accident. Wifey and I were going to the Cape for vacation, and she wondered if we could find the church to do some celebrity watching. We just followed a bunch of expensive-looking cars and a cop directed us into the church parking lot. We got out and walked across the street just as the ceremony was ending up.

Carly Simon had just shown up, more than fashionably late, waving to the crowd as she walked from the parking lot.
Mrs. Scholssberg fell coming down the steps of the church. She fell ass over teakettle, and someone had to retrieve her purse. (Unfashionably black purse, as my wife mentioned to me)
But my most vivid memory is of Ahnie - waiting for the wedding party, towering over the limo (elbow resting on it).

Later

Frayed Knot
Dec 22 2008 07:21 AM

Just so I have this straight;
- the current Governor, a son of a former state senator, is thinking of appointing the daughter of a former President to a U.S. Senate seat where she can join her uncle in Congress (and his son on the House of Rep side) by holding the seat once held by her other uncle and soon to be vacated by the wife of a different former president. At least, unlike the current holder and her former Uncle, she actually lives in the state.
The first name to surface was the cousin of the President's daughter and son of the one-time Senator but he declined.
- Of course if all that doesn't work out the Governor/state senator's son might award the seat to a son of a former governor who is also the former husband of a sister/cousin of the above choices.
- Maybe our Governor can ask advice from a certain west coast Governor except that he may have a conflict of interest seeing as how he's married to a cousin of the early choices and of the former spouse of the other. Plus there's that whole 'other party' thing.
He might also ask the incoming Vice President for advice except that he is too busy arranging for the Senate seat that he's vacating to be kept warm until his son is able to claim it in a few years.

Remind me again why we broke away from England?

metirish
Dec 22 2008 07:46 AM

Mind boggling , we should build a House of Lords type building where the children of privilege can go to discuss the days goings on but have no real power.


I read that there is some guy keeping Biden's seat warm for two years until his son comes back from Iraq to run for it.

themetfairy
Dec 22 2008 08:08 AM

Then again, there's Barack Obama....

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 22 2008 08:20 AM

="Frayed Knot":3bv43rg0]Remind me again why we broke away from England?[/quote:3bv43rg0]

Because of taxes.

metsguyinmichigan
Dec 22 2008 08:41 AM

="MFS62":1bh1kmdb]I've posted the story of how I got there before. It was by accident. Wifey and I were going to the Cape for vacation, and she wondered if we could find the church to do some celebrity watching. We just followed a bunch of expensive-looking cars and a cop directed us into the church parking lot. We got out and walked across the street just as the ceremony was ending up. Carly Simon had just shown up, more than fashionably late, waving to the crowd as she walked from the parking lot. Mrs. Scholssberg fell coming down the steps of the church. She fell ass over teakettle, and someone had to retrieve her purse. (Unfashionably black purse, as my wife mentioned to me) But my most vivid memory is of Ahnie - waiting for the wedding party, towering over the limo (elbow resting on it). Later[/quote:1bh1kmdb]


Damn good story!!! I love it!

Frayed Knot
Dec 22 2008 09:46 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 22 2008 11:35 AM

="Benjamin Grimm":2sao843v]
="Frayed Knot":2sao843v]Remind me again why we broke away from England?[/quote:2sao843v] Because of taxes.[/quote:2sao843v]

Specifically taxes imposed by those who felt they had some kind of divine right to rule in perpetuity.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 22 2008 09:52 AM

Well, yeah, but it wasn't the issue of nobility that sparked the Revolution.

If the divine nobles hadn't wanted to tax tea and stamps and stuff we might all still be sitting here wearing powdered wigs.

Fman99
Dec 22 2008 10:02 AM

="Benjamin Grimm":3a7g9t5d]Well, yeah, but it wasn't the issue of nobility that sparked the Revolution. If the divine nobles hadn't wanted to tax tea and stamps and stuff we might all still be sitting here wearing powdered wigs.[/quote:3a7g9t5d]

Aren't the rest of you guys wearing powdered wigs right now?

Fuck.

Willets Point
Dec 22 2008 10:02 AM

A rarely discussed episode in American history is the Counter-revolution during the 1780-90's where most of the radical changes of the Revolution were overthrown and strong parallels to the British system instituted (for example, aristocracy/plutocracy).

metirish
Dec 22 2008 10:06 AM

="Willets Point":2ntlrz8x]A rarely discussed episode in American history is the Counter-revolution during the 1780-90's where most of the radical changes of the Revolution were overthrown and strong parallels to the British system instituted (for example, aristocracy/plutocracy).[/quote:2ntlrz8x]


We discussed it this morning in fact , over tea and crumpets.

metirish
Jan 21 2009 05:05 PM

Unconfirmed reports in the NY Post picked up by the local NBC station have Kennedy pulling her name out of contention.

Frayed Knot
Jan 21 2009 05:29 PM

Fred Dicker is the NYPost writer and he's been covering state gov't in Albany since forever so it's reasonable to bet that the story is accurate.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01212009/ne ... 151234.htm


Kennedy cited "personal reasons," according to sources. ... Her stunning move comes as sources revealed that Paterson had intended to appoint her to the now-vacant seat today.

Nymr83
Jan 21 2009 06:05 PM

]Because of taxes


Taxes far, far, far lower than anything you'll see today

Edgy DC
Jan 22 2009 07:13 AM

This morning's DC edition of the <i>Times</i> had her out, then back in. I log on and see she's actually out.

Strange times.

Frayed Knot
Jan 22 2009 07:22 AM

Yeah, she apparently released a statement sometime after midnight saying that she was out.
Just heard Fred Dicker on the radio about an hour ago saying that maybe she got word that she was NOT going to be the choice and therefore withdrew before she could be rejected.

NYTimes (and several others) are giving Teddy's health as a reason but of course his problems began long ago and, despite his brief episode at the inauguration lunch, he's no more sick now than he was when she dove head first into this thing.

Edgy DC
Jan 22 2009 07:29 AM

All reports I read say Paterson had settled on her.

And I don't want to make too much of comparing political parties to mob organizations, but I have trouble seeing how a guy who fell backwards into the governorship can openly snub a Kennedy and have much of a future.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 22 2009 07:32 AM

Patterson is the bee's vagina as far as I'm concerned. I am certain Kennedy bailed because he had the stones not to choose her.

soupcan
Jan 22 2009 07:35 AM

So who is the frontrunner now - Caroline's ex-cousin-in-law, Cuomo?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 22 2009 07:36 AM

yup

metirish
Jan 22 2009 07:48 AM

Michael Daly who I usually like to read in the Daily News has a column today advocating Kennedy as some sort of " special city envoy to Washington in these difficult times ahead. "

What?

[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/01/21/2009-01-21_lets_make_caroline_kennedy_our_special_e.html:3u7kxz6h]Special Envoy[/url:3u7kxz6h]

In reading past Daly columns on Kennedy I would say that they are friends.

DocTee
Jan 22 2009 07:56 AM

]Just heard Fred Dicker on the radio about an hour ago


I read this as dick her and have been chuckling ever since.

Frayed Knot
Jan 22 2009 07:56 AM

The list of journalists who don't take insider info (aka: dictation) from the Kennedy clan to fill their stories might be shorter to produce than to start naming those who do.

soupcan
Jan 22 2009 07:57 AM

Not that this carries any weight with anybody but Joan Rivers was on Howard Stern yesterday and made no bones about how much she disliked Caroline Kennedy. She said that she had served on a few boards with her and she came across as elitist. She said something like "she acts like 'I'm Caroline Kennedy' and you're not'"




Wow - doesn't Joan look like a wax figure from Madame Toussauds?

themetfairy
Jan 22 2009 08:12 AM

="soupcan":24f4ldx0] Wow - doesn't Joan look like a wax figure from Madame Toussauds?[/quote:24f4ldx0]

That's what Botox does to a person....

Frayed Knot
Jan 22 2009 05:28 PM

Newsday:
The "personal situation" cited by Caroline Kennedy for bowing out of the U.S. Senate race centers on tax payments and employment of a nanny, an aide to Gov. David A. Paterson said Thursday. "A lot of red flags were raised ... people got real nervous about her," the aide said. "I was told the governor had no intention of picking her for Clinton's seat." Another Paterson aide said the governor was leaning toward Kennedy until the tax and nanny issues was discovered. "He doesn't want to be embarrassed," the second aide said. Meanwhile, legislative sources said they believed Paterson would announce his pick Friday in a ceremony in Albany.

soupcan
Jan 22 2009 06:32 PM

]"He doesn't want to be embarrassed,"


Yeah, the drug-abusing, womanizing, tax-evading governor doesn't want to be embarassed.

Nymr83
Jan 22 2009 07:55 PM

FOX News is reporting that Patterson has select Kristen Gillibrand, an upstate Democrat in the House.
I'm glad he picked a legislator not a celebrity with no experience.

Fman99
Jan 22 2009 08:10 PM

="soupcan"]Not that this carries any weight with anybody but Joan Rivers was on Howard Stern yesterday and made no bones about how much she disliked Caroline Kennedy. She said that she had served on a few boards with her and she came across as elitist. She said something like "she acts like 'I'm Caroline Kennedy' and you're not'" Wow - doesn't Joan look like a wax figure from Madame Toussauds?


Someone tell the E! channel to stop hiring evil cyborgs. Shit makes me nervous.

metirish
Jan 23 2009 07:12 AM

Whatever the reasons for dropping out Paterson and his crew are coming across as assholes with their carry on.

The more I see Paterson the more I think he is " not ready for primetime".

Edgy DC
Jan 23 2009 07:42 AM

A New York Democrat who opposes gun control?

Fman99
Jan 23 2009 07:53 AM

="Edgy DC":2d98krcp]A New York Democrat who opposes gun control?[/quote:2d98krcp]

Seriously.

metsguyinmichigan
Jan 23 2009 08:19 AM

There's got to be another shoe to drop. Someone like that does not get an appointment like that over some heavy hitters like Andrew Cuomo without some kind of deal for something.

Edgy DC
Jan 23 2009 08:21 AM

For what it's worth, she's from a politically connected family as well.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 23 2009 08:23 AM

I would have thought that he'd pick Cuomo, to stash him away in the Senate and make it less likely that Cuomo would challenge Paterson for the governorship.

seawolf17
Jan 23 2009 08:44 AM

Gillibrand is buds with Hill.

Edgy DC
Jan 23 2009 08:47 AM

You ever get the idea that Hillary thinks whatever you just said is the funniest thing she ever heard in her life?

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 23 2009 08:53 AM

Is Gillibrand the cutest Senator?

metirish
Jan 23 2009 08:54 AM

Bases on that picture she could be Hillary's sister , cuter though.

Edgy DC
Jan 23 2009 09:05 AM

="Benjamin Grimm":26yawqxn]Is Gillibrand the cutest Senator?[/quote:26yawqxn]

Well, now that that dreamy Obama has been promoted, but Mary Landrieu is feeling a little kicked to the curb.

Willets Point
Jan 23 2009 09:52 AM

Look who's at http://www.hottestussenator.com/!