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="seawolf17":y1gn0wm9]I love OOTP.[/quote:y1gn0wm9]
i thought i had found a great online league but hte drama on their forums the lat few days has been disgusting, i'm not sure how much longer i'm sticking around
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seawolf17
Jan 10 2009 05:00 PM
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I'm such a total OOTP dork. I'm actually still playing OOTP6; I never upgraded. I'm in the middle of the 2024 season with my fake Mets.
Reyes retired in 2021 with 2587 hits, 140 HR, 962 SB.
Wright retired in 2022 with 2704 hits, 416 HR. Had a dynamic 2013 (.363/.442/.727, 49 HR, 157 RBI). Had the cojones to test free agency after the 2015 season, signing with the Cardinals, but I threw two top prospects at them and reacquired him during spring training.
Yusmeiro Petit (remember him?) retired after the 2023 season, a five-time Cy Young winner and lifetime Met with a career 2.91 ERA. (It actually should have been lower if he retired earlier; from 2020-2022 he really fell off the table.)
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Edgy DC
Jan 10 2009 09:15 PM
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I hesitate to ask, but how many championships have you brought home for us?
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Benjamin Grimm
Jan 11 2009 06:49 AM
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I don't know that I've ever heard of OOTP.
What does the acronym stand for?
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Nymr83
Jan 11 2009 06:55 AM
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Out Of The Park baseball
[url:2g3as8ok]http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/[/url:2g3as8ok]
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seawolf17
Jan 11 2009 01:49 PM
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="Edgy DC":q9q9bdgh]I hesitate to ask, but how many championships have you brought home for us?[/quote:q9q9bdgh]
More than probably realistically possible. Nine, including four straight from 2007-2010.
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Edgy DC
Jan 11 2009 02:35 PM
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Nine in 16 years? Totally possible, especially with the way you ripped off the Cards.
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seawolf17
Jan 11 2009 03:41 PM
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No, nine in eighteen (2005-2023).
In defense of the Cardinals, the two guys they got were an eight-time All-Star in the prime of his career (who, like Wright, retired and was selected to the Hall of Fame) and a thumper who became the top catcher in the league, leading the Cards to two titles of their own (including last season).
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TheOldMole
Jan 12 2009 08:11 AM
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I've been replaying the 1948 season on Diamond Mind. I did the 1947 season, and the Giants, with their incredible home run power, beat out the Dodgers for the NL pennant -- outside of Branca, the Dodgers' pitching really fell apart. The Giants also outslugged the Yankees in the World Series.
1948 is an interesting year for a Dodger fan, because most of the ingredients for their great teams were there, but not quite in place yet. Carl Furillo is their regular center fielder. Duke Snider comes up in midseason, but doesn't win an everyday spot. Billy Cox starts more games at third than anyone else, but that means only 70 games. It's a revolving door, with Spider Jorgensen nearing the end of his career, but still hanging in, Tommy Brown getting one of several shots to win a regular position, Eddie Miksis getting a bunch or starts. Gil Hodges becomes pretty much a regular at first, but still catches a few games -- they haven't entirely given up on their 1847 lineup of Hodges catching and Robinson at first. Preston Ward actually starts the season as the regular first baseman. Campanella shares catching duties with Hodges, but mostly with Bruce Edwards, who also plays third, outfield, and even fills in a couple of times at first. Robinson is pretty much the everyday second baseman, with Miksis his main replacement, and Reese is the one day in, day out player. The outfield is in a huge state of flux, with aging veteran Arky Vaughan and prematurely aging veteran Pete Reiser still around. Gene Hermanski in left is actually their closest thing to an everyday player, and he stays around for a while. My Dodger fandom began in 1950, and fanaticism in 1951, so Hermanski is the first left fielder i remember -- he went in mid-'51 in the Andy Pafko deal.
Their closest thing to a third regular outfielder is Marv Rackley, with both George Shuba and Dick Whitman getting more playing time than Snider. They will try to get rid of Rackley in May of 1948, trading him to the Pirates for Johnny Hopp, but the deal is voided three weeks later and the players returned toi their respective teams. I wonder that that was about? The Dodgers do get rid of Rackley after the 1949 season, selling him to the Cincinnati Reds for sixty bucks, and one has to wonder how they arrived at that figure. But by 1949, the Dodger everyday lineup is set.
Pitching - they don't have Newcombe yet. Rex Barney is actually their ace. Branca's in the regular rotation, as is Preacher Roe. Erskine a spot starter/reliever.
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Edgy DC
Jan 27 2009 11:20 AM
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'Wolf, I meant to ask. Did we ever get a no-hitter?
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MFS62
Jan 27 2009 11:56 AM
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Mole, that was a year or two before I really started rooting for Brooklyn.
But until the team moved after the 1957 season, third base was always a weak link for them. Cox was there for several more years, then gave way to Don Hoak. Travis Jackson played there for a year or two and IIRC Jackie Robinson and Pee Wee Reese even played the most games there for a year or two.
Thanks for the memories.
Later
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seawolf17
Jan 27 2009 12:23 PM
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Two, actually:
8/26/2006, Pedro Martinez (NYM), 4 K, 1 BB against the Reds
8/29/2009, Jake Peavy (NYM), 8 K, 7 BB against the Astros
I signed Peavy as a FA after the 2007 season; he pitched eleven and a half seasons, winning a Cy Young in 2009 (20-6, 2.70, 235 Ks in 220 IP) before falling apart in 2019. The Yankees claimed him off waivers, but he was awful that season (2-8, 6.39 in 18 starts). I signed him that offseason to a minor league deal, but the magic was gone, and I released him in June after he started the season 2-8, 8.94 in AAA.
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Edgy DC
Jan 27 2009 01:33 PM
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I'd figure the first one would have stopped time or something.
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Methead
Jan 27 2009 03:45 PM
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I'm so addicted to Puresim Baseball it's not even funny.
I use fictional players though, so I don't really have any fun Mets parallels I can make.
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Edgy DC
Feb 09 2009 05:56 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 09 2009 08:10 PM
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OK, so I get my 1969 Mets ridiculously hot in the NL division of my League of Champions, leading by as many as three games in early September of the 154-game schedule. But I've over-used both my sluggers and my relievers, and they trudge through September with the swooning offensed of the Valentine era Mets and the swooning pen of the Randolph era variety. The 1964 St. Louis Cardinals catch and pass them by a game.
My desperate strategy is to try and coax long workdays out of my starting pitchers and to run Boswell and Gaspar crazy. If a Shamsky gets on in a game situation, damn it, pinch run Amos Otis, we've got a division to win.
And, for a few games anyhow, it works. I go into the final game up one over the Cards. But I'm up against my old nemesis, the 1934 Tigers --- sluggers through the lineup, and iron man starters that are hard to chase. I start Tom Seaver on three days rest, looking for the clincher.
But the offense is blowing chunks against Schoolboy Rowe. Through eight innings, the 1969ers have four hits and no runs. The visiting Tiggs, meanwhile had broken through for a pair of runs in the seventh --- with some poor defensive choices by this manager probably helping them along.
In a desperate attempt to generate something, I pinch-hit Gaspar and Martin in the eighth, and come up bone-dry. So, this is what my lineup looks like in the ninth.
<ol><li>Boswell, 2b</li>
<li>Harrelson, ss</li>
<li>Jones, lf</li>
<li>Shamsky, rf</li>
<li>Agee, cf</li>
<li>Kranepool, 1b</li>
<li><strike>Grote, c</strike>
<strike>Gaspar, ph</strike>
Charles, 3b</li>
<li><strike>Garrett, 3b</strike>
Martin, ph, c</li>
<li>Seaver</ol>Seaver leading off. Rowe is about at 100 pitches. What's my move in the ninth? My bench looks like this
<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="1" bordercolor="black"><tr><td align="center" width="50%"><b>L</td><td align="center"><b>R</td></tr><tr><td align="center">Collins</td><td align="center">Clendenon</td></tr><tr><td align="center"><br></td><td align="center">Dyer</td></tr><tr><td align="center"><br></td><td align="center">Otis</td></tr><tr><td align="center"><br></td><td align="center">Pfiel</td></tr><tr><td align="center"><br></td><td align="center">Swoboda</td></tr><tr><td align="center"><br></td><td align="center">Weis</td></tr></table>
How should I play it in the ninth.
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MFS62
Feb 09 2009 06:20 PM
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Rowe was a righty, and looking at his records, 100 pitches doesn't seem a lot. They'll probably keep him in no matter what.
They only had two lefties on that team, one starter and one reliever, who don't look that impressive. So Garrett might be an option.
I'd pinch hit with the guy who had the magic in 1969 - Weis. He's the most likely of your remaining hitters to get on base.
Then, you have a lefty and a switch hitter coming up, at least one who can bunt for a hit- Buddy.
Then you have a good contact hitter, Jones and another lefty - Shamsky.
If it comes down to Art with runners on and two out, looking out at the bullpen, Clendennon would be my choice if they bring in one of the lefties.
Go get 'em tiger (no pun intended)
Later
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Edgy DC
Feb 09 2009 08:23 PM
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So that's one vote to pinch hit with Weis. It's a good thing you didn't stick with your original choice for Garrett, as he has already been pinch hit for the previous inning and was out of the game. And batting out of turn is an automatic out.
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MFS62
Feb 09 2009 09:26 PM
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I saw Collins and thought Garrett.
My bad.
But the strategy with either of them is still the same.
Later
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 10 2009 05:34 AM
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Don't know what Otis or Dyer will get you right now.
Why not go with Swo. Worst case, he whiffs and you went down giving it a shot. Best case he cuts the deficit in half. And he prolly reaches at at least the rate of the others. Then take it from there.
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Edgy DC
Feb 10 2009 06:09 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 10 2009 07:19 AM
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My thinking was built around Harrelson. He, of course, has no power, but also didn't have a particularly good year (even for him) as a hitter for average) or bunter or base stealer that year. He was also subject to overuse.
If I got a guy or two on, was I going to pinch-hit for the punchless Buddy? If so, I had to save Clendenon for that. The whole meatball was on the line here.
I looked Buddy in the eye and went with my gut, trusting in his walkiness and his switch-hitterness. That left me to use Clendenon not for his primary skill, but for a secondary one --- getting on base, and being a good enough runner not to clog the tying run behind him.
And my hope wasn't for naught. On the fifth pitch, with a 2-2 count. Clendenon singles up the middle. The lineup turns over, and I have two good left-righty matchups coming. Boswell --- again on pitch five with a 2-2 count --- pulls one through the hole. Donn stops at second, and I have the tying run on first. Manager Mickey Cochrane goes to the pen and out comes righthander <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/lawsoro01.shtml" target="_blank">Roxie Lawson '35</a>. out of Iowa Wesleyan College.
What say? Tying runs on. Do I stick with Buddy?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 10 2009 07:08 AM
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He's got too much speed to be a triple play candidate. And you know Gil would have him bunting.
F it. If you're gonna put a guy 2nd in the batting order only to wuss out with the game on the line then you're making at least one mistake. I say let Bud bat and swing away.
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Edgy DC
Feb 10 2009 07:24 AM
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Good call! And bunting is for loosers! On a 2-1 pitch, Bud Harrelson '69 doubles off the of the base of the wall in the left field corner!
Clendenon '69 tears around third and scores standing up.
Boswell '69, though a Very Good (rated) basestealer, is merely an Average (rated) baserunner. Confronted with Goose Goslin '35's Average (rated) throwing arm, do I send Boswell?
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Frayed Knot
Feb 10 2009 07:26 AM
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With no outs?!? ... Hell no!! - particularly on a ball in the corner where it'll be a shorter throw/relay.
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Edgy DC
Feb 10 2009 07:46 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 10 2009 08:10 AM
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Amen.
So I get really nervous --- remember my inability to score the tying run from third with no outs earlier in this thread --- even with the heart of the order coming up. I pinch-run Amos Otis (rated Excellent as a runner) for Boswell. If I tie it up and don't win it, I still have infielders Collins and Weis and Pfiel on the bench. But I feel like I'm being a real wimp, playing for the tie at home.
The tying and winning runs on, they want little to do with Jones '69, and they pitch around him. I let him swing the bat, but he doesn't see anything he likes, and walks on four pitches.
Did somebody say pinch-hit for Shamsky? Hell no! Are you a plant from his ex-wife? He's a .300 hitter with power and my cleanup hitter. He, too, walks, bringing home the tying run, the easiest act of heroism in Amos Otis' career.
Up steps Agee, he rips the third pitch through the hole on the left side, and pandemonium begins.
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MFS62
Feb 10 2009 08:00 AM
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Way to go!
Edgy - our own John McGraw.
Later
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