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="metirish":3kxz2zjh]I suppose I didn't realize building a new apple would be such a big process , I thought Peter Flynn would just throw something together and give her a slap of paint.[/quote:3kxz2zjh]
That's what they did the first time.
Did they say three times the size of the old one? Yeow. Thanks for the link. I'd like to peel, core and bite into that reporter by the way.
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metsguyinmichigan
Jan 21 2009 08:17 AM
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That looks AWESOME!!!
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Edgy DC
Jan 21 2009 08:27 AM
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="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1qlbv74c]I'd like to peel, core and bite into that reporter by the way.[/quote:1qlbv74c]
Standard go-to-dingbat-given-the-fluff-stories. She's Miss Minnesota 2007.
<img src="http://jenniferahudspeth.com/images/Evening%20Gown.jpg">
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Benjamin Grimm
Jan 21 2009 08:32 AM
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I noticed that page gave a local weather report for former Mets farmtown Mankato.
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seawolf17
Jan 21 2009 09:06 AM
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Love it!
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soupcan
Jan 21 2009 09:09 AM
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That's a big-ass apple.
I notice that there is no signage on the apple - be it 'Mets' or advertising - that we can see from that story.
I'm just wondering if their will be some kind of advertising or corporate sponsorship put on the thing. Would be a shame but I wouldn't put it past them.
And btw - how does one transport a 6,000 lb apple-shaped piece of fiberglass from Minnesota to New York?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 21 2009 09:11 AM
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| ]And btw - how does one transport a 6,000 lb apple-shaped piece of fiberglass from Minnesota to New York? |
There's a factory in Oregon currently working on a gigantic wooden basket.
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metirish
Jan 21 2009 09:13 AM
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="soupcan":2ypo5f27]
And btw - how does one transport a 6,000 lb apple-shaped piece of fiberglass from Minnesota to New York?[/quote:2ypo5f27]
Sully will pilot the transport plane into Flushing Bay and from there it should be easy really.
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G-Fafif
Jan 21 2009 09:16 AM
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Why do I get the feeling this will be delivered to the Pro Bowl and we'll get an enormous fiberglass pineapple?
Either way, Minnesota Nice is bearing fruit! Seriously, that was the longest minute and a half I've watched since Steve Trachsel got the ball back from the catcher.
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Fman99
Jan 21 2009 09:37 AM
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="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3fa63kk3]="metirish":3fa63kk3]I suppose I didn't realize building a new apple would be such a big process , I thought Peter Flynn would just throw something together and give her a slap of paint.[/quote:3fa63kk3]
That's what they did the first time.
Did they say three times the size of the old one? Yeow. Thanks for the link. I'd like to peel, core and bite into that reporter by the way.[/quote:3fa63kk3]
Absolutely. I'd get all up in that Red Delicious.
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Benjamin Grimm
Jan 21 2009 09:52 AM
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I'm disappointed that the apple has a flat bottom, rather than a realistic apple-like bottom. I know the bottom never rises completely out of the hat, but I'd feel better knowing the apple was botanically correct.
Now we have to track down the company working on the new giant magician's hat.
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batmagadanleadoff
Jan 21 2009 09:59 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 21 2009 10:00 AM
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Has it been confirmed that the new apple will also rise out of a magician's hat? If I remember correctly, the old magician's hat was a tie-in to the "The Magic is Back" 1980 ad campaign. Perhaps Met management doesn't consider the hat as being integral to the apple.
I'd guess that there'll be a new magic hat to go along with the new apple ... but you never know.
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Edgy DC
Jan 21 2009 10:00 AM
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I had the same feeling about the absent apple bottom, and I'm pretty pissed at Toto for pulling that particular curtain away.
I'm hoping that there's simply an unattached piece in that shot. In fact, I'm going to go ahead and assume that to be a fact, and I can return to my firmly secure illusion.
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soupcan
Jan 21 2009 10:59 AM
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My opposition to the Apple is well-known here. My position being - as batmags has stated - that it was a leftover relic of a failed advertising scheme.
What the hell did an apple coming out of a magician's top hat have to do with the the 2007-2008 Mets for an example ("Watch how our division leads magically disappear!")?
That being said - an Apple, in and of itself, is an indisputable symbol of New York City. If the new apple were to be installed sans the top hat, then I can say that I would fully support its inclusion into CitiField.
Now I want to know where the scoreboard skyline from Shea is going to go.
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Edgy DC
Jan 21 2009 11:12 AM
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Well, it's not like they haven't shown us illustrations of the future home from every conceiveable angle.
Here we go, apple and hat as viewed from a restaurant in leftfield, apparently affordable to only a half dozen fans.
<img src="http://www.stadiumpage.com/citi_models/Citi_clubrest.jpg">
Even sadder is the empy left field seats in what appears to be the bottom of the ninth with the Mets up, I think 10-6.
OE: The man with his back appears to be a waiter, and appears to be the only non-caucasian getting into Chez Shea. Nice post-racial consciousness, guys. Like the blue plates though.
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Willets Point
Jan 21 2009 11:29 AM
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Wow, it's like <i>The Sims</i> go to a Mets game.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 21 2009 11:35 AM
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I understand that left-field restaurant will be operated by the same people who do the Tribeca Grill.
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soupcan
Jan 21 2009 11:38 AM
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Danny Meyer.
There's also gonna be a Shake Shack somewhere in the place.
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metirish
Jan 21 2009 11:38 AM
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="John Cougar Lunchbucket":ikjxu5lt]I understand that left-field restaurant will be operated by the same people who do the Tribeca Grill.[/quote:ikjxu5lt]
Another place I will probably never eat at.
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Edgy DC
Jan 21 2009 11:38 AM
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A few other things to notice:
<ul><li>That's an indoor-outdoor restaurant.</li>
<li>Each table has a monitor, so you can watch on tv the game you can't watch live, because your view is obscured by a monitor.</li>
<li>In fairnesss, that may well be a final on the scoreboard, and this is just the lingering post-game crowd, perhaps ninety minutes after the game wrapped up.</li>
<li>If it is 10-6, we probably didn't get a save. DAMN!</li>
<li>This picture refers to "Mets Ballpark," so it's either from before Citi Group became the corporate namer, or is a brand new harbinger of Citi pulling out.</li>
<li>In the future, everybody will be in shape.</li>
<li>Another Keyspan sign in left center looks a little harder to hit than the old one.</li></ul>
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 21 2009 11:46 AM
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="metirish":2lhjbezj]="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2lhjbezj]I understand that left-field restaurant will be operated by the same people who do the Tribeca Grill.[/quote:2lhjbezj]
Another place I will probably never eat at.[/quote:2lhjbezj]
Yeah, I know. One of the guys who runs it is a Met Lovin Big Shot and might be Fantasy-ing up with bfmc now.
[url:2lhjbezj]http://www.grandslamgourmet.com/sportsbites/sbites3apr08.html[/url:2lhjbezj]
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seawolf17
Jan 21 2009 11:53 AM
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="Edgy DC":1fm2wzit]Here we go, apple and hat as viewed from a restaurant in leftfield, apparently affordable to only a half dozen fans.
<img src="http://www.stadiumpage.com/citi_models/Citi_clubrest.jpg">
Even sadder is the empty left field seats in what appears to be the bottom of the ninth with the Mets up, I think 10-6.[/quote:1fm2wzit]
Maybe that's a post-game shot. If they've played the top of the ninth -- as evidenced by the 0 on the scoreboard -- then maybe the place has already cleared out. Nice to see they're playing some sort of old Shea highlight video on the jumbotron, though.
Maybe there's nobody in the restaurant because they all had purple tickets and the line was too long, so they're just waiting outside to get in.
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Rockin' Doc
Jan 21 2009 04:33 PM
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Soupcan - <i>"I notice that there is no signage on the apple - be it 'Mets' or advertising - that we can see from that story.
I'm just wondering if their will be some kind of advertising or corporate sponsorship put on the thing. Would be a shame but I wouldn't put it past them."</i>
As long as they don't slap that tacky Inaugural Season Patch emblem on it, I'll be reasonably happy.
At least the apple looks a lot better than the old one which looked like an old paper mache project for a high school art class. As others have stated, it would be nice if the apple had a bottom. Maybe it's like the stem and leaf that were shown, but haven't been attached yet.
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Centerfield
Jan 21 2009 07:17 PM
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="Edgy DC":6cybcy37]Well, it's not like they haven't shown us illustrations of the future home from every conceiveable angle.
Here we go, apple and hat as viewed from a restaurant in leftfield, apparently affordable to only a half dozen fans.
<img src="http://www.stadiumpage.com/citi_models/Citi_clubrest.jpg">
Even sadder is the empy left field seats in what appears to be the bottom of the ninth with the Mets up, I think 10-6.
OE: The man with his back appears to be a waiter, and appears to be the only non-caucasian getting into Chez Shea. Nice post-racial consciousness, guys. Like the blue plates though.[/quote:6cybcy37]
And it's Opening Day too. You'd think some fans would stick around until the end.
Of course, this place appears to be named Mets Ballpark...
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 21 2009 07:25 PM
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Everything's for sale. That restaurant is actually gonna be called "The Acela Grill" -- the great taste of being 4 hours late.
I also understand the outfield is now "the Pepsi Porch" and what useta be the Strerling Club is not the Delta 360 Club.
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Gwreck
Jan 21 2009 07:37 PM
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I believe that access to that restaurant is only for tickets that cost in excess of $100 per game.
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Edgy DC
Jan 22 2009 07:37 AM
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="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2axtxchq]Everything's for sale. That restaurant is actually gonna be called "The Acela Grill" -- the great taste of being 4 hours late.
I also understand the outfield is now "the Pepsi Porch" and what useta be the Strerling Club is not the Delta 360 Club.[/quote:2axtxchq]
You're sneaking in to my house at night and murdering me.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 22 2009 07:56 AM
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Also, and I read this on the Internet so don;t quote me, but what plans called The Excelsior Level is now to be called "The Caesar's Level."
I think the Delta 360 Club is the one limited to $100 ticket holders.
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soupcan
Jan 22 2009 09:18 AM
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More...
]Mets' new, bigger Home Run Apple for Citi Field in the works
By ANTHONY McCARRON
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Giant Met Home Run Apple is ready to blossom at new park.
Giant Met Home Run Apple is ready to blossom at new park.
Workers in Minnesota are putting the finishing touches on the Mets' new Home Run Apple, a bigger, shinier and more advanced version of the Shea curio that inspired strong feelings among fans who either adored or hated its hokiness.
The new apple will be installed at Citi Field in early February, according to Mark Silvera, who designed it along with fellow engineer Andrew Agosto. Look for the Mets to have a ceremony when the apple is unveiled, although the team declined comment Wednesday.
"I guess somebody has made a giant pop-up apple before, but when we were going through the process, we wanted to have it be bigger, better and more reliable," said Silvera, an engineer at Uni-Systems, the Minneapolis engineering firm hired to build it. "It'll be exciting to see it installed and then see how fans respond to it."
The fresh apple, made of fiberglass with a foam core, is 16 feet tall and 18 feet in diameter, meaning it would tower over the 9-foot-tall original. The new one weighs 4,800 pounds, but adding the hydraulics and guideframes underneath means the total weight lifted will be around 8,500 pounds. The old apple weighed 582 pounds.
When a Met hits a homer, the apple will rise 15 feet. It's slated to make the trip in just three seconds, but the Mets may be able to tweak the timing once it is installed.
The original apple first appeared at Shea to the right of the 410-foot sign in center field during the 1980 season as a marketing ploy to inject some excitement into a dreadful team that finished 67-95, in fifth place in the NL East. That team didn't hit many homers, either - Lee Mazzilli led the way with 16, while the Mets finished with just 61 and were mocked by a Daily News graphic that measured their homer output against Roger Maris' 1961 total. The Mets and Maris finished tied.
But the apple morphed into a symbol of the franchise, its lumpy, red fiberboard frames plucking fans' heartstrings, and Met officials long wanted to have the apple represented in some way in the new park.
While the apple has been famous and/or notorious in New York, depending on your point of view, Minnesotan Mark Hagelberger didn't know apple lore. Hagelberger's company, Fiberglass Fabricators, Inc., was hired to build the new apple's shell and he Googled the Met apple to learn. "Wow," he said Wednesday, "this is a big deal."
To some fans, so is the final resting place of the original apple. Good news, Hagelberger says - it's likely to go on display somewhere at Citi Field. "That's the plan I heard," Hagelberger said. |
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metirish
Jan 22 2009 09:31 AM
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When a Met hits a homer, the apple will rise 15 feet. It's slated to make the trip in just three seconds |
I dunno but that just sounds like trouble to me , with it's expected weight and all. I'd hate to see Beltran and whoever is in RF get crushed by the apple.
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Gwreck
Jan 22 2009 09:36 AM
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="John Cougar Lunchbucket":9cwh7oib]I think the Delta 360 Club is the one limited to $100 ticket holders.[/quote:9cwh7oib]
Not exactly.
The "Delta 360 Club" (formerly the Sterling Club) is limited to Sterling-Level seat holders. Those are the seats on the lowest level, right behind the plate. Those tickets run $175/game on the low end.
The Left Field Restaurant is limited to these seating categories: Sterling Club Platinum and Gold; Ebbets Club Gold; Excelsior Club Platinum and Gold; Metropolitan Box and Field Box.
Of course, all of those levels are over $100 per seat.
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And yes, if you take a look here:
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/nym/ticketi ... _plans.jsp, you'll see that the Mets have renamed the "Excelsior Level" the "Caesar's Level."
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Edgy DC
Jan 22 2009 09:43 AM
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Suckers.
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G-Fafif
Jan 22 2009 09:45 AM
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| ]The original apple first appeared at Shea to the right of the 410-foot sign in center field during the 1980 season as a marketing ploy to inject some excitement into a dreadful team that finished 67-95, in fifth place in the NL East. That team didn't hit many homers, either - Lee Mazzilli led the way with 16, while the Mets finished with just 61 and were mocked by a Daily News graphic that measured their homer output against Roger Maris' 1961 total. The Mets and Maris finished tied. |
Except the Apple was planted in 1981, the year after the admittedly power-starved Mets had some success with the marketing theme "The Magic Is Back," thus the top hat and the words Mets Magic. And while I wouldn't argue the historical verdict of "dreadful" against a fifth-place, 67-95 team, those Mets were winning back fans with an impressive midseason surge (a 47-39 run that put them in contention for a time) as that Maris vs. Mets graphic was running.
Home runs aren't everything. Neither is accuracy at the Snooze, apparently.
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Benjamin Grimm
Jan 22 2009 09:47 AM
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| ="metirish"]I dunno but that just sounds like trouble to me , with it's expected weight and all. I'd hate to see Beltran and whoever is in RF get crushed by the apple. |
The apple won't be rising while the Mets are in the field. It's the opposing outfielders who have to fear the apple!
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Edgy DC
Jan 22 2009 09:49 AM
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Can UMDB do a quick home/road split since 1981 and tell us which Mets have lit the apple the most?
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metirish
Jan 22 2009 09:54 AM
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="Benjamin Grimm"]| ="metirish"]I dunno but that just sounds like trouble to me , with it's expected weight and all. I'd hate to see Beltran and whoever is in RF get crushed by the apple. |
The apple won't be rising while the Mets are in the field. It's the opposing outfielders who have to fear the apple! |
LOL....of course....
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Frayed Knot
Jan 22 2009 09:57 AM
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Fortunately for me I've always been able to make it through a 3-hour baseball game without starving to death so I can still attend a game without paying for high-priced meals in up-scale restaurants that are restricted to only those with upper-priced seats.
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G-Fafif
Jan 22 2009 09:58 AM
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="Gwreck":bglynpwb]you'll see that the Mets have renamed the "Excelsior Level" the "Caesar's Level."[/quote:bglynpwb]
Will the games be renamed Bread And Circuses?
Speaking of renaming, I haven't been able to find any trace of "Coogan's Landing" on the official seating chart or anywhere in the various propaganda save for the original unupdated fact sheet. I guess that one sop to NY Giants history has been quietly yet effectively disappeared.
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G-Fafif
Jan 22 2009 09:59 AM
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| ]I'd hate to see Beltran and whoever is in RF get crushed by the apple. |
| ]The apple won't be rising while the Mets are in the field. It's the opposing outfielders who have to fear the apple! |
Beltran, Don't Fear The Apple...
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Gwreck
Jan 22 2009 10:01 AM
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="Edgy DC":2op1dcbm]Can UMDB do a quick home/road split since 1981 and tell us which Mets have lit the apple the most?[/quote:2op1dcbm]
I don't think you need UMDB to tell you it's
1. Darryl
2. Mike
But after that...
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Benjamin Grimm
Jan 22 2009 10:01 AM
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="Edgy DC":2raunp2q]Can UMDB do a quick home/road split since 1981 and tell us which Mets have lit the apple the most?[/quote:2raunp2q]
Piece of cake!
Most Shea Stadium (regular season) Mets home runs since 1981:
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Darryl Strawberry 127
Mike Piazza 99
Howard Johnson 90
David Wright 70
Kevin McReynolds 65
Todd Hundley 57
George Foster 53
Edgardo Alfonzo 53
Carlos Delgado 51
Carlos Beltran 47
Cliff Floyd 44
Bobby Bonilla 40
Gary Carter 40
John Olerud 39
Dave Kingman 38
Keith Hernandez 38
Robin Ventura 36
Jeff Kent 34
José Reyes 30
Mookie Wilson 28
</pre>
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G-Fafif
Jan 22 2009 10:06 AM
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Has anyone ever noticed whether the Apple rose on Met Inside-the-Park HRs? Or was the Apple operator too overcome with shock to get the fruit up in the air?
FYI, the following ITPHRs were hit at Shea in the Apple Era:
Wally Backman, 7/31/82
Mark Bradley, 8/31/83
Darryl Strawberry, 5/3/89
Marlon Anderson, 6/11/05
Jose Reyes, 9/7/06
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Centerfield
Jan 22 2009 10:08 AM
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Never would I have guessed George Foster would be on that list.
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Edgy DC
Jan 22 2009 10:09 AM
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Jeff Kent, apple polisher.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 22 2009 10:23 AM
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I was at the Mark Bradley ITPHR game.
I don't remember if the apple went up because I was too busy razzing Dodgers RF Mike Marshall for making the poor decision to dive that led to it.
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