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Former Mets pitcher Jack Fisher reflects at Shea Stadium

metirish
Jan 29 2009 06:37 AM

Nice little bit today in the Daily Snooze.





] Jack Fisher clutched an umbrella in his right hand - the hand that threw the first pitch at Shea Stadium in 1964 - as he bid a sad farewell Wednesday to the ballpark to which his name will forever be linked. Trudging through slush along Roosevelt Ave., the ex-Mets pitcher marveled at the sturdy skeleton of the baseball landmark, which is being dismantled to make way for Citi Field. "I guess it's trying hard to stand up, like we were as a young ballclub," said Fisher, 69, shivering beneath the No. 7 train tracks. "It's a pretty sad scene." Gone are the field and the seats and a chunk of the upper deck, giving way to bulldozers and dirt mounds - a far cry from Fisher's last visit in September for Shea's closing ceremonies. Fisher, who now lives in Easton, Pa., spent a half hour roaming around Shea on his way home from a banquet for ex-ballplayers in Times Square - and memories flooded back. Most prominent was the stadium's opening on April 17, 1964, when Fisher began the game with a strike to Pirates shortstop Dick Schofield. "I had a pretty good idea that it would be a strike," Fisher said. That fleeting moment paid long-term dividends for Fisher, who will likely inscribe "1st Pitch at Shea" on dozens of items at a sports expo Saturday in the Crowne Plaza Hotel in East Elmhurst. In fact, the $15 cost for Fisher's autograph ranks close to much more accomplished guests signing at promoter Jack Berke's expo - like Hall of Fame hurler Juan Marichal - because so many fans appreciate Fisher's place in Shea history. He set several milestones in Shea's first game - surrendering the ballpark's first hit and home run, and started a baseball tradition with a simple pregame question to Mets manager Casey Stengel. "I asked Casey if it was okay to warm up in the bullpen [instead of on the field] to get away from the hustle and bustle and all the writers," he recalled. "I guess I started something." Fisher's return to Shea also reminded him of the Mets' soldout home games in the mid-1960s against the Los Angeles Dodgers and San Francisco Giants, who had moved out of New York just years earlier and still basked in local fan support. "I could actually feel the sound waves hitting me on the chest," he said of the raucous games. Moving forward, Fisher hinted he might feel better about Shea's destruction if the Mets had him throw the first ceremonial pitch at Citi Field. "If they think it would be a good thing, I'd be more than happy to do it," said Fisher, who still sports the husky frame that earned him the nickname Fat Jack. "I'd even get in shape."



The bullpen thing is interesting.

cooby
Jan 29 2009 09:26 AM

As sad as it is for us, it's got to be worse for the guys that played the first games there. There are plenty of them that aren't so old that they can't still remember it well, but I'll bet tearing down a 40 year old stadium cos it's "outdated" makes them feel old.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 29 2009 09:38 AM

My mother still thinks that Shea Stadium is "brand new." She couldn't believe it when she heard that it was being replaced.

That thing that Jack Fisher said about the bullpen intrigued me. I wonder if it's true... Did starting pitchers do all their warmups on the pitcher's mound, instead of the bullpen, prior to Jack and Shea Stadium?

I mean, maybe the home pitcher warmed up on the real mound, but the visiting pitcher must have been tossing in the pen, right? Otherwise he'd get fewer warmup pitches because he wouldn't be able to do it during the top of the first.

Frayed Knot
Jan 29 2009 11:40 AM

There were two pitching circles (not raised mounds, just a dirt area) to either side of home plate towards the batting circles with extra plates back near the backstop. Those were intended as warmup areas although I don't think I ever saw anyone actually warm up from there. They eventually got erased and the backstop moved up to make it impossible anyway but I don't specifically remember when.

An overhead shot of the field from the early days would show the marks.

G-Fafif
Jan 29 2009 11:44 AM

="Frayed Knot":2hut7jgx]There were two pitching circles (not raised mounds, just a dirt area) to either side of home plate towards the batting circles with extra plates back near the backstop. Those were intended as warmup areas although I don't think I ever saw anyone actually warm up from there. They eventually got erased and the backstop moved up to make it impossible anyway but I don't specifically remember when. An overhead shot of the field from the early days would show the marks.[/quote:2hut7jgx]

If you have the Shea Essential DVD set and watch Game Four of the '69 Series, you'll see Mike Cuellar warming up from those circles on the third base side. It's like watching a World Series film from the '30s, albeit in color.

Centerfield
Jan 29 2009 11:44 AM

I had never thought about this before, but next season is going to be pretty special. It will be, for the majority of us, the only time we will see a new stadium in our lifetimes.

(Not counting other sports/teams etc)

vtmet
Feb 02 2009 05:38 PM

="cooby":20liq39t]As sad as it is for us, it's got to be worse for the guys that played the first games there. There are plenty of them that aren't so old that they can't still remember it well, but I'll bet tearing down a 40 year old stadium cos it's "outdated" makes them feel old.[/quote:20liq39t]

I find it even more bizarre how many stadiums were built after Shea that have already been replaced...for example, the Seattle Kingdome opened in 1976, and had been replaced during the '99 season and was imploded prior to the '00 season...

metsguyinmichigan
Feb 02 2009 06:24 PM

="cooby":36afwqax]As sad as it is for us, it's got to be worse for the guys that played the first games there. There are plenty of them that aren't so old that they can't still remember it well, but I'll bet tearing down a 40 year old stadium cos it's "outdated" makes them feel old.[/quote:36afwqax]

Heck, I was born a week before Shea's first game. Now I feel old! Of course, when my parents say, "He's a dump, but he's our dump."....