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IGT 08/30, Phillies at Mets

KC Aug 30 2005 06:08 PM

At the risk of appearing a little eager to get this under way ... Phillies Rollins SS Lofton CF Utley 2B Abreau RF Burrell LF Howard 1B Bell 3B Lieberthal C Tejeda P Mets Reyes SS Cairo 2B Beltran CF Floyd LF Wright 3B Jacobs 1B Diaz RF Castro C Seo P

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:12 PM

here we go........ Can watch the game from the Phils side on Comcast. I dont mind. Harry Calas is a great announcer.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:14 PM

Rollins makin Seo throw pitches. How bout Cameron takin out the lineup card...... nice to see.

willpie Aug 30 2005 07:18 PM

Oof. 10-pitch first AB for Rollins

willpie Aug 30 2005 07:19 PM

Feck. Lofton.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:19 PM

shit..... Lofton goes yard. Didnt expect that. Only the 4rth HR given up by Seo this year. Both he and Rollins made Seo throw quite afew pitches for the 1st 2 batters on the game. They do keep Utley off the bases. Calas says Abreu is only batting .128 vs the Mets this season. How bout that?

willpie Aug 30 2005 07:23 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2005 07:24 PM

Uh-oh, Jae. 26 Pitches, 2 HR, 3 ER, 2 Outs. Not such a great start.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:23 PM

UGHHHHHHH. Burrell smacks his 27th dinger. DAMN. 29th Home Run vs the Mets for his career, leading all Phils.

willpie Aug 30 2005 07:25 PM

Anyone watching this on TV? What's wrong with Seo tonight? The sportsline gamecenter is not forthcoming.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:26 PM

Phils phorce Seo to throw over 30 pitches in the 1st inning. That tells the tale. Its all up hill from here, tonight.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:30 PM

willpie wrote: Anyone watching this on TV? What's wrong with Seo tonight? The sportsline gamecenter is not forthcoming. Im watching. Cant tell by lookin at Seo. The pitch to Burrell wasnt all that bad. He went down and got it. The pitch to Lofton was rather phat but whod a thought he'd pop one.....

willpie Aug 30 2005 07:31 PM

I am shocked--SHOCKED--that Cairo grounded out. Shocked, I tell you.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:33 PM

nice Beltran

Bret Sabermetric Aug 30 2005 07:33 PM

Beltran KA-BOOM!!! 3-1

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 07:33 PM

On the plus side, Seo maintains his tasty K/9 & K/BB ratios by striking out 2 during the inning and walking none. But seriously, Gary & Howie said Seo's fastball is a bit slower than usual--86 instead of 89/90 he had been getting up to. Starts like this will happen where he doesn't have his best stuff. Let's see how he adjusts. Beltran answers with his first home run in like 100 at bats!! Bout time, asshole!

willpie Aug 30 2005 07:33 PM

Boom, Beltran! Good time to wake up, Carlos!

The Brooklyn Bum Aug 30 2005 07:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2005 07:35 PM

willpie wrote: Anyone watching this on TV? What's wrong with Seo tonight? The sportsline gamecenter is not forthcoming. Howie and Gary said that Seo's fastball is topping out at 87, not the 90-91 he's been at this season.

willpie Aug 30 2005 07:34 PM

Love the Kaboom graphic, Zvon.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:34 PM

holy crap! How did Bell not catch that pop up?!!!! I never saw a play like that in my life!

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:35 PM

willpie wrote: Love the Kaboom graphic, Zvon. thnks will. I hope they hit a dozen and Ill get crackin in my Paint Shop Pro

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 07:38 PM

Damnit, Gary, don't get all excited like it's a home run when it's not. Anyway, David flies out to Lofton to end the inning.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:38 PM

i really wish they proved the old addage that errors kill after that fluky dropped pop by Bell. But the boys answer back, and Ill take it. We got game

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:41 PM

The Brooklyn Bum wrote: ="willpie"]Anyone watching this on TV? What's wrong with Seo tonight? The sportsline gamecenter is not forthcoming. Howie and Gary said that Seo's fastball is topping out at 87, not the 90-91 he's been at this season. he better adjust then. If hes gonna continue to pitch as a savior, he will have to be able to.

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 07:44 PM

And Cairo's lack of range costs us a run as Rollins singles in Lieberthal. Motherfucker. Let's just play Matsui, for Christ's sake. Gary & Howie aren't happy either.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:46 PM

Phils play small ball and plate another. A single, sac, basehit off Cairos glove. 4-1. Rollins steals second. Close play. Phils are just doin everything right.

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 07:46 PM

Lofton flies out on a changeup by Seo to end the inning. I'm getting pissy now. Let's score some runs.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:47 PM

Rotblatt wrote: And Cairo's lack of range costs us a run as Rollins singles in Lieberthal. yea, he should have at least stopped that from gettin thru. But thats baseball. inches baby.

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2005 07:48 PM

Gary & Howie have been killing Cairo all year for his lack of range, all while the rest of the NYC media are so busy praising him for NOT being Matsui that they either fail to notice or choose to ignore.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:49 PM

I sure do like the look of Jacobs swing. He hits it hard, but lines out to right.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:51 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: Gary & Howie have been killing Cairo all year for his lack of range, all while the rest of the NYC media are so busy praising him for NOT being Matsui that they either fail to notice or choose to ignore. 2nd base is a sore spot for us no matter who ya want to talk about. *Z does his walter Cronkite voice* ......"and thats the way it is...."

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:55 PM

Tejeda looks good. Mets have to get to him. In the meantime, lets get thru an inning without givin up any more runs. Clutch utley Abreu Burrell scheduled to bat

OlerudOwned Aug 30 2005 07:58 PM

Ugh...I feel like this is my fault because I found Jae Seo was a free agent in by fantasy baseball leauge and signed him. DAMN ME!

Zvon Aug 30 2005 07:59 PM

Utley gronds out sharply. Career, Utley is now 0-10 vs Seo with 5 Ks.(wish i had this info for the KTE) Seo has thrown over 50 pitches at this point. Only the 3rd inn, so we should see some Met relief work. Seo does look like he's settling, but still leavin the ball up more than im used to seein from him. Nice inning from Seo. Put down the heart of the order.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 08:01 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: Ugh...I feel like this is my fault because I found Jae Seo was a free agent in by fantasy baseball leauge and signed him. DAMN ME! LMAO. I hear ya, but dont take the blame. Thats why we love this game. the darndest things happen.

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 08:01 PM

Dump him NOW, Olerud! Anyway, Seo gets tough. With his fastball back around 90, he strikes out Abreu & Burrell after getting Utley to ground out.

Bret Sabermetric Aug 30 2005 08:04 PM

Zvon wrote: [2nd base is a sore spot for us no matter who ya want to talk about. *Z does his walter Cronkite voice* ......"and thats the way it is...." I don;t think anyone around here cares, but Wiggy is 7-for-18 since the Pirates recalled him on August 23.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 08:08 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2005 08:29 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote: I don;t think anyone around here cares, but Wiggy is 7-for-18 since the Pirates recalled him on August 23. has Wiggy even played 1 game at 2nd this year? Shoot, i messed up this post. was supposed to be a quote and not an edit.

mlbaseballtalk Aug 30 2005 08:09 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: Gary & Howie have been killing Cairo all year for his lack of range, all while the rest of the NYC media are so busy praising him for NOT being Matsui that they either fail to notice or choose to ignore. Or the media still has too much Yankee Kool-Aid in them that Cairo is one of those "guys who still should be on the Yanks" players and therefore gets a pass

Zvon Aug 30 2005 08:20 PM

Seo gets thru another tuff inning. Gets in trouble then gets out of it. Mets need a rally.

duan Aug 30 2005 08:22 PM

wright singles ... if this gets to Seo i'm Ph'ing for him - get Heillman warmed up says I

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 08:23 PM

This game sucks. Wright singles to lead off the inning, then Jacobs hits it hard to Rollins, who doubles him up. bleh.

duan Aug 30 2005 08:23 PM

bah double play. ....

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 08:25 PM

And Diaz with a lazy, two-out triple.

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 08:27 PM

There's that Lofton D I was talking about. Diaz was busting it right out of the box, but he stumbled two or three times around the bases. Never let up, though.

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 08:29 PM

Castro pops up to end the inning. This game is annoying me.

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 08:32 PM

Diaz's defense costs us a double. And we're apparently 0-24 with runners in scoring position.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 08:33 PM

but we cant capitalize on the stumbling triple. The Mets are not putting anything together. Lofton double---diaz freezes on it. Eyeeecurumba. On a side note: The homer by Lofton in the 1st was his 1st since opening day. (see, I can depress people too, bret :wink: ) YES. Mets get lofton at the plate on the Utley single. He was safe too.

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 08:34 PM

Holy shit. Beltran threw out Lofton on Utley's single to center. Sounds like a nice, close play by Beltran.

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 08:34 PM

Lofton surely beat that throw, but I'm not sure his foot caught the plate. Cairo's bringing it on O and D tonight. Not sure what It is, but... .

martin Aug 30 2005 08:36 PM

i see that play sometimes, where the foot is above, but not on, the plate, and it is mostly called safe. nice work by the umpire. usually i expect they just give that to the runner the way they give the phantom 2b tag to the fielder on the DP.

martin Aug 30 2005 08:38 PM

crap i didnt even notice. i meant to say something thoughtful for the seaver post. oh well. you win some, you lose some.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 08:40 PM

The ump had a bad angle. i think Loftons foot was in but Castros quick lunge gets the call. Phils manager Manuel gets tossed. Heres a shot just available off Burrells 1st inning homer. You can see how he went down and got a low pitch off Seo. Looked like that swing he put on Glavins off speed stuff early in the season. Burrell singles, and good think utley didnt try to get to 2nd on that play at the plate. He only moves up to 2nd

OlerudOwned Aug 30 2005 08:43 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2005 08:45 PM

HAIL! and farewell, to a very fleeting Sacred Seaver Post

Zvon Aug 30 2005 08:43 PM

ooouuuuuu. Nice pitch by Seo Ks Howard. very nice pitch. Dodges another bullett. CBS sportsline has Padilla up in the pen for the Mets.

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 08:44 PM

Seo ponies up again to strike out Howard. Well, for my money, Seo adjusted to his lack of stuff okay.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 08:45 PM

am i slippin or what. Did I miss that? belated HAIL!!!!!!!!!

KC Aug 30 2005 08:45 PM

The play at home was a lot closer on the subsequent Mets' camera angles than it originally looked. I was laughing at first that they got a gift. Gutsy call by blue if he saw what we saw in slow-mo four times. Time'll tell if it matters. I love seeing Phillies managers get tossed, It seems to be a job requirement sometimes.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 08:46 PM

Rotblatt wrote: Well, for my money, Seo adjusted to his lack of stuff okay. agreed. that pitch was his best of the game. Matsui pinch hits and Seos work is done for the day. Well, he couldnt pitch flawlessly 4ever.

KC Aug 30 2005 08:46 PM

Seo done after five. Fan favorite, Matsui, is pinch hitting to lead off the bottom half.

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 08:47 PM

Boopunks going after Matsui. To Heckuba with them, I hope he stays in and bumps the pitcher back into Cairo's spot.

KC Aug 30 2005 08:51 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2005 08:54 PM

To Heckuba with Matsui fans from all us (oe: well, some of us) Ordonez supporters. He stinks.

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 08:53 PM

Strange. They're overshifting Beltran, but pitching him away.

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 08:55 PM

Shift looking like a dumb idea now.

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 08:56 PM

Hello, there! You must be that Carlos Beltran fellow I've heard so much about!

Zvon Aug 30 2005 08:57 PM

Kool. Mets plate Reyes. Beltran with another big hit. maybe this is the start of his hot streak. That be nice. Crap--I have to step off AFK 4 a bit. Hope to be bk b4 games over.. whew.i thought Floyd lauched one there. looked like it but just a fly out.

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 08:57 PM

And for the fourth motherfucking time tonight, Gary makes me think we've hit a home run when we haven't. Seriously, Gary, tone it down. You're killing me. Cliff with a deep fly ball to Lofton to strand two.

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 08:57 PM

The line to Heckuba is busy.

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 08:59 PM

Caveat emptor.

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 09:04 PM

Not for nothing, but if Trachsel really takes 30 minutes to warm up, he would've had 30 minutes easy (from the moment they decide to pinch-hit for Seo to the end of the inning) to prepere to enter this game.

The Brooklyn Bum Aug 30 2005 09:13 PM

Rotblatt wrote: And for the fourth motherfucking time tonight, Gary makes me think we've hit a home run when we haven't. Seriously, Gary, tone it down. You're killing me. Cliff with a deep fly ball to Lofton to strand two. Well, watching the hits, I thought they were gone off the bat too.

Willets Point Aug 30 2005 09:26 PM

Hey Bum, long time no see.

KC Aug 30 2005 09:31 PM

Castro with a stand up double to start off the 7th down the left field line. Marlon hitting for Heilman.

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 09:35 PM

Marlon over-reaching, swinging for the fences with one out.

The Brooklyn Bum Aug 30 2005 09:35 PM

Willets Point wrote: Hey Bum, long time no see. Hey hey. Glad to be back, although I'm not sure how long I'll be around for. My job is killing me. Edit: *SIGH* Looks like we're gonna strand Ramon on third.

The Brooklyn Bum Aug 30 2005 09:40 PM

Yes! Cairo takes one for the team. Mr. Octubre to the plate.

OlerudOwned Aug 30 2005 09:42 PM

Whew, Cairo plunked with 2 strikes. Hope Carlos can keep tonight rolling for himself and the Mets.

The Brooklyn Bum Aug 30 2005 09:43 PM

OlerudOwned Aug 30 2005 09:43 PM

4 pitches and a walk. They're loaded for Floyd, and I got I nasty vision of his huge K against washington. But then i made myself remember his homer vs. Anaheim (i was at that game). C'mon, big Clifford!

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 09:44 PM

Who is managing the Phils right now? Cormier should be in here.

The Brooklyn Bum Aug 30 2005 09:45 PM

Ug, Clif is swinging for the fences when we only need a single.

OlerudOwned Aug 30 2005 09:47 PM

Uncorked! Wild Pitch!

OlerudOwned Aug 30 2005 09:47 PM

Urgh, Floyd strikes out right after. But Ryan Madson gives us a run thanks to a hit batter, a 4 pitch walk, and a wild pitch.

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 09:47 PM

Cornelius has been overswinging for a while. There's this Wright guy on deck, Cliffy.

The Brooklyn Bum Aug 30 2005 09:48 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Cornelius has been overswinging for a while. There's this Wright guy on deck, Cliffy. Wonder if he's pressing because Cameron at Shea.

OlerudOwned Aug 30 2005 09:50 PM

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OlerudOwned Aug 30 2005 09:54 PM

Great work by Padilla, 1-2-3

OlerudOwned Aug 30 2005 09:59 PM

Wright walks and steals second to start the bottom of th 8th

Willets Point Aug 30 2005 10:04 PM

Don't screw this up.

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 10:06 PM

HOLY FUCKING SHIT RAMON CASTRO!!!!!!!!

The Brooklyn Bum Aug 30 2005 10:06 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2005 10:12 PM

OMGWTFBBQ11!!!!!! RAMON!!! KABOOM

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 10:06 PM

OlerudOwned Aug 30 2005 10:07 PM

RAAAAAAAAAMON CASTRO PUTS THE METS IN THE LEAD 6th of the year,6-4 METS!

Willets Point Aug 30 2005 10:07 PM

Fuck Yeah!!!!

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2005 10:08 PM

Castro to Phils' reliever: 'FUCK U (x3)'

willpie Aug 30 2005 10:08 PM

Kiiiiiiiiickaaaaaaassssssssss!

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 10:09 PM

I was convinced it was going to be a long fly ball. I blame Gary. Holy shit but this is a tense game.

OlerudOwned Aug 30 2005 10:11 PM

Reyes with a 2 out, 2 strike double. Hopefully they'll bean Cairo again.

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2005 10:13 PM

]OMGWTFBBQ11 Oh My God We Tasted Fred's Bar-B-Que ... um, at 11?

willpie Aug 30 2005 10:13 PM

Rotblatt wrote: Holy shit but this is a tense game. Yeah; I'm kinda hating DirecTV right now; I live in the Philly "market", so the Extra Innings Package channel that shows the game is blacked out, but I don't get the local channel that the game is on. So I get to see all the Mets games except the ones against the Phillies.

Elster88 Aug 30 2005 10:14 PM

What was I arguing with you about Castro the other day, Rotty? Looks like you were right!!!!!!! May the SBS strike me down for saying this an inning early, but Castro will be the first non-starting pitcher that I award 6 Schaefer points to this year. _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 169) Joe McEwing

willpie Aug 30 2005 10:16 PM

Scary Looper feelings.

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 10:18 PM

]What was I arguing with you about Castro the other day, Rotty? Looks like you were right!!!!!!! I DO like Castro . . . Actually, I think it's progressed beyond that. I want to bear his child.

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 10:19 PM

You think Reyes is into this?

Willets Point Aug 30 2005 10:20 PM

Looper.

Elster88 Aug 30 2005 10:21 PM

METS WIN METS WIN METS WIN METS WIN

mlbaseballtalk Aug 30 2005 10:21 PM

Beltran catches the final out and the Mets have won the ball game 6-4. We'll be back with the "Happy Recap" in just a few moments... Steve

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 10:22 PM

LOOOOOPPPY!!!!! WOW! What a great fucking game! It was ugly and we got brutally lucky, but we also had some nice, gutsy pitching and one big fat clutch motherfucking hit that is, as Gary said, the biggest hit of the Mets 2005 season so far.

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 10:22 PM

Nice residue tonight is that Castro got Cliff off the hook. Hopefully if Cliff was pressing, he'll ease up a bit. Really great win.

KC Aug 30 2005 10:22 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2005 10:25 PM

Looper. I like that better than when jb walks around Manhattan having to say it. Woo hoooodle. (edited for clarity, like anyone cares)

OlerudOwned Aug 30 2005 10:23 PM

Looper with a drama free 9th, and the mets have a huge, massive, bulging, gigantic, throbbing victory. Now we need 2 more like it.

Willets Point Aug 30 2005 10:23 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2005 10:24 PM

Remember Dickshot's "Should won/Shoulda lost" thread? This one makes up for one of those games the Mets shoulda won earlier in the season.

ABG Aug 30 2005 10:24 PM

Update the standings NOW!!!!!!

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 10:27 PM

I'll update them after the Brationals game. Woo hoooodle is excellent! clarity.

Centerfield Aug 30 2005 10:35 PM

WHOOOO HOOOO! Fun night to be a Mets fan. Pedro going tomorrow...big win...big win.

metirish Aug 30 2005 10:37 PM

Great win, tension filled it seemed all night, especially from the 7th on, the Mets are rolling back the years.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 30 2005 10:38 PM

Wow! I have to start more games partying in enemy territory. D-Dad and I were actually at Citizens Bank Ballpark for the start of this game - we were at a Tug McGraw Foundation fundraiser (today would have been Tug's 61st birthday). We hit the road before 9:00 and were home for the 8th inning rally. Wow! Martin - Hail! on your Seaver post! Werewolf - NICE KaBoom graphic :) A great win. A sloppy game, but a great win <g>

Elster88 Aug 30 2005 10:43 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote: ="Zvon"][2nd base is a sore spot for us no matter who ya want to talk about. *Z does his walter Cronkite voice* ......"and thats the way it is...." I don;t think anyone around here cares, but Wiggy is 7-for-18 since the Pirates recalled him on August 23. What are his stats for the year again? Where would he play on this team?

Centerfield Aug 30 2005 10:44 PM

Oh, and before I forget, let's start up a collection and buy Cairo some range. Seriously, that second inning run should never have plated.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 10:56 PM

what a comeback Somethin came up and I missed it. Hope comcast replays the game. Gonna read up this thread.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 11:06 PM

ScarletKnight41 wrote: Wow! I have to start more games partying in enemy territory. D-Dad and I were actually at Citizens Bank Ballpark for the start of this game - we were at a Tug McGraw Foundation fundraiser (today would have been Tug's 61st birthday). We hit the road before 9:00 and were home for the 8th inning rally. Wow! Martin - Hail! on your Seaver post! Werewolf - NICE KaBoom graphic :) A great win. A sloppy game, but a great win <g> they did a segment on this just now on comcast,SK. Talked to luzinski and showed him with the giant check. Thanks for cudos on Kaboom, but I was MIA for castros clutch boomer. Had a Kaboom all prepared to. Such is life

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2005 11:07 PM

"I don;t think anyone around here cares, but Wiggy is 7-for-18 since the Pirates recalled him on August 23". You're right.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 30 2005 11:09 PM

The check was from the Phillies in the amount of $10,000. A nice contribution.

Zvon Aug 30 2005 11:10 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2005 11:12 PM

that was a HUGE comeback win and yes, does make up for any one game we should have won earlier this season. Guess every win from here on in does,lol. The Phils pen melts down. Nice to see another pen do that for a change. And we got to their 2 best. this sets the tone for the whole series, cuz they used both madison and urbina. doubt they will tomorrow now, and if we get deeper into their pen, they are as done as a perdue oven roaster stuffer. this is the way to start the 3 game set.

Rockin' Doc Aug 30 2005 11:11 PM

Now this was a great bed time read. Sweet dreams of Met victories to all.

holychicken Aug 30 2005 11:40 PM

I was at the Red Sox game tonight. Got to see Kazmir pitch for the second time this season. The whole game the sox were behind and I was watching the greenmonster for the score of the Mets' game. To my dismay, they were behind the whole time as well. Right when Trot Nixon hit the winning single in the 9th, while everyone was cheering I look over and the Mets are up 6-4. It was a very joyous moment for me. :) Then, on my way home, some drunk guy fell onto the lap of another person on the T and yelled "I'm wasted." Ahh, it was a great night all round.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 30 2005 11:50 PM

I dedicate this post to the between-innings contest contestant who said "GO PHILLIES!" on the Diamond Vision when asked to give his answer. I was in the Mezz with a guy from work and two other guys supposedly on biz but there for baseball. The work guy is one of those guys with whom I have nothing in common except the Mets and we disagree on that, so I basically spent the whole game telling him how much Cairo was killing us and he was more about well, Matsui sucks, and it wasn't all that fun. He did have a moment though. He predicted Juan Padilla would take off his cap before he reached the dugout after he pitched the 7th and he did! Watch next time: Juan Padilla ALWAYS removes his hat before entering the dugout after an inning. No other players do this. He is impossibly stylin' and richly deserved his first Met win. Seo sure wasn't sharp. He gave up a hit to every starting player in the Philly lineup but for the pitcher. I read here where Gary was fooling everyone with the HR calls (Great IGT btw). I think what happened was, with 3 hit in the first inning, there was just this feeling that balls in the air were just flying out, even if they weren't. And if Gary was taking his cues from the crowd noise, it's partially my fault. If the buffet table isn't upside-down in the visiting clubhouse tonight I'd be surprised. If Kenny Lofton ever starts in center field again, I'd be surprised. If this wasn't the ugliest, most painful loss of the Philly season, I'd be surprised. Don't know what the TV showed but what I saw on the home-plate play was a tremendous fake cutoff by Seo -- I don't know if Lofton saw it out of the corner of his eye and slowed up or what, but that was a play where nobody in the park thought we had a chance, and Seo faked out everyone who saw him -- so much so Utley stayed at first anyway. Huge play anyway, and always fun to get a bonus ejection. Castro is the man on a night Floyd couldn't be. How sexy! If ww hadn;t pulled it off it'd been an especially rough subway home.

metirish Aug 30 2005 11:56 PM

Great report Dickshot, repeated showings on MSG proved Mex was correct, Lofton it seemed got his spikes stuck a bit sliding and that made his foot carry over the plate letting Castro tag him, great call by the ump.

Frayed Knot Aug 31 2005 12:09 AM

Don't think the fake cut had anything to do with Lofton's running. (btw, Seo? I think it was Jacobs as pitchers rarely act as cutoffs - they should be backing up somewhere instead). The purpose of the fake of course is to keep the batter from advancing ... which it did. Anyway, Lofton appeared to lose his gait a bit rounding 3rd but mainly just isn't as fast as he used to be - hence the lousy CF play. Gary's calls were slightly misleading at first, but you could tell pretty quickly that they weren't going out. The Castro call however had a different feel to it.

metirish Aug 31 2005 12:13 AM

Yeah the Castro call was a great Cohen call, his call on the Beltran homer was so so, it sounded like he forgot who was playinf CF for the Phillies, I didn't hear the other calls.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 31 2005 12:18 AM

Pretty certain Seo was the cutoff man: Right in front of the mound -- I didn't see whether he fooled Lofton, but he definitely fooled me and apparantly fooled Utley. That Lofton was out was just a huge surprise. Phillies also couldn't have been happy with the call on Wright's steal, which appeared to me to be a blown hit-n-run with new DP specialist Jacobs. Anyway, close there too at least from the Mezz, but fortunately went our way.

Edgy DC Aug 31 2005 12:35 AM

Mex was wrong and wrong again disagreeing with that call through the first few replays. It wasn't until the third or fourth replay from a lower angle that he saw what I thought I saw all along, that Lofton didn't get his foot in there. A wild pitch picked up Reyes, who didn't get the runner home from third with one out. And Castro picked up Floyd, who didn't deliver against a struggling righty with the sacks juiced. Go team!

Beenso Aug 31 2005 12:41 AM

Just got back from the game. Thought there would be a bigger crowd, but there was still close to 35000 and it sure got pretty loud at some points. My highlight is the guy next to me calling Burrell a "Sissy Girl" and a "Pansy". A little heckling from some dweeb in the crowd is always fun. Anyway..what a great game to be at.

metirish Aug 31 2005 12:43 AM

To be fair to Mex the first replays didn't give a good view of the play, and IIRC he called it and then MSG showed the replay that proved him correct.

Bret Sabermetric Aug 31 2005 02:40 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 31 2005 03:10 AM

Elster88 wrote: What are his stats for the year again? Where would he play on this team? Uh,how good do his stats have to be--O and D--to beat out Cairo/Matsui for the 2b job? OE: Wiggy OPS .717, Cairo .634, Matsui .594. Do you really want to propose that they have some kind of defensive edge at 2B? The only worse defensive second basemen I've seen are Helen Keller and Stephen Hawking, though Hawking has a slight edge in range over Cairo. Any further snotty rejoinders?

Zvon Aug 31 2005 02:48 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Seo faked out everyone who saw him -- so much so Utley stayed at first anyway. ^^this was a bigger fact that goes un-noticed. if utley did move up he more than likely would have scored that inning on Burrells single. Still woulda left em one run short tho,hehe. Great synopisis of your nite, Dick Im watchin the replay now, cuz i missed the end of the game 1st time thru. Just about up to where i left off. 6th inning. You would think that knowing whats gonna happen might delute it, but it wont. Im sure my local Phil phan phriends will be awful quiet tomorrow. And Im gonna be awful tired. its gonna be interesting to hear Harry Calas's call of the Castro Caboom.

Zvon Aug 31 2005 02:53 AM

and since Im here, Ill post pictures from tonights game while i watch. here a not so good view of the lofton play at the plate and that unbelieveably bad error by Bell on the pop up.

Zvon Aug 31 2005 02:58 AM

hey, Cameron's alot better lookin since getting all that plastic surgery.

Zvon Aug 31 2005 03:39 AM

even the Phils announcers thought Wright got his hand in there and was safe on the stolen base in the 8th. Rollins didnt. That was close tho. Didnt this game seem to have that playoff atmosphere? I wonder If Dick felt that type of electricity at the Stadium. Im in the 8th about to enjoy HiStOrY RePeAtInG ItSeLf.

Zvon Aug 31 2005 03:41 AM

mannnnnnnnnnn, that was sweet. Calas didnt raise his voice and sounded rather dejected.

Valadius Aug 31 2005 07:26 AM

I was beginning to think I would have to come home from college for the Mets to win again. Washington's great, by the way. I probably won't post as much now, being busy and all, but I'll stop by. Thank God I don't have any MFY fans for roommates! I have a Pirates fan and a Red Sox fan.

Edgy DC Aug 31 2005 09:33 AM

My freshman year I lived in a suite with a great Pirate fan... and a dweeb, a sissy, a self-destructive drunk, and three total buttlick jerks. I didn't understand how they plugged my profile and interests into a compooter and decided it would be best to place me with this crew, but it still depresses me to think about it. Thanks for bringing me down from this beautiful high with that painful memory.

OlerudOwned Aug 31 2005 12:14 PM

Looks like we're impressing some people, [url=http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/52098.htm]namely Billy Wagner[/url]

Elster88 Aug 31 2005 12:14 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote: ="Elster88"]What are his stats for the year again? Where would he play on this team? Uh,how good do his stats have to be--O and D--to beat out Cairo/Matsui for the 2b job? OE: Wiggy OPS .717, Cairo .634, Matsui .594. Do you really want to propose that they have some kind of defensive edge at 2B? The only worse defensive second basemen I've seen are Helen Keller and Stephen Hawking, though Hawking has a slight edge in range over Cairo. Any further snotty rejoinders? I'd say that Kris Benson makes up for the difference in OPS. Or are you still convinced that it would have been just as easy to sign if he hadn't been brought over mid-season last year? And since when is Wiggy an option at second?

Elster88 Aug 31 2005 12:21 PM

I thought you'd say first, not second.

Valadius Aug 31 2005 12:25 PM

Well, he originally was a second baseman, IIRC. We had to plug him in at third because of Robbie Alomar & the lack of an established third bagger.

Bret Sabermetric Aug 31 2005 12:26 PM

Elster88 wrote: are you still convinced that it would have been just as easy to sign if he hadn't been brought over mid-season last year? Totally. And if not him, as I've explained many times, one of the numerous just-as-good pitchers for whom Benson set the freaking market value. It amazes me how Mets fans blithely and repeatedly acknowledge that Benson set the market for a bunch of pitchers more or less his equal, meaning that he got top FA dollar, and there were other equally sound options if the Mets had failed to sign him as a FA, and then turn around and insist that the Benson deal was anything other than a way stupid attempt to compete in 2004 with an inept and unqualified team. And since when is Wiggy an option at second? Since the Mets have been playing two utterly incompetent fielders, at much more salary and much less growth potential and much less baseball sense, in his place.

Anonymous Aug 31 2005 12:31 PM

Wiggy has growth potential? Pass that glass pipe over here.

Willets Point Aug 31 2005 02:35 PM

Welcome A-Bordick Annoying Doo Doo Head. I have to appreciate the honesty in your handle.

Valadius Aug 31 2005 04:54 PM

When did Wiggy go caveman?

Elster88 Aug 31 2005 04:57 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote: Benson set the market for a bunch of pitchers more or less his equal Who are these pitchers, please? See the Benson Bunch thread before saying that all of these pitchers are created equally. Maybe JD can provide an update.