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Centerfield Feb 18 2009 07:52 AM

In other words, the MFY 2009 thread. Latest news other than the A-Rod Press Conference: *Jim Leyritz is released from jail after being thrown in for drinking, in violation of his bail. The good news is that he managed to go all of 2008 without killing someone. *Newsday is reporting that the Feds are talking to Andy Pettite about Clemens' use of steroids. Andy may become a crucial witness against the lying scumbag.

Edgy DC Feb 18 2009 08:01 AM

Police are looking for this guy who knocked over a Rochester bank, wearing a Yankee insignia on his hat and what seems to be the watermark of a Mets insignia on his shirt. The individual is believed to be disturbed. By me.

Centerfield Feb 18 2009 08:14 AM

Sure, he robbed a bank, but it's not like he committed a crime. I mean, he didn't kill anyone or anything.

metirish Feb 18 2009 08:46 AM

Love the thread title......

Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 10:54 AM

[quote="metirish":1t2o640w]Love the thread title......[/quote:1t2o640w] 'Gypsies, tramps and thieves' was already taken.

Edgy DC Feb 18 2009 10:58 AM

I was thinking "Mutants, Creeps, and Musclemen"

seawolf17 Feb 18 2009 11:13 AM

I like how Brett Tomko was front and center. "Hey, guys! I'm a True Yankee™!"

A Boy Named Seo Feb 18 2009 11:13 AM

Holy shit, are those the Yankees? That looks like the line waiting for a booth at Hooters in Orange County.

seawolf17 Feb 18 2009 11:15 AM

Actually, the total sum of Yankee seniority in that photo is Joba. You can barely see Nady and Matsui, but other than that, you could barely call those guys "teammates."

Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 11:17 AM

Took me a second too. Sabathia is the huge one. Joba in the white warm up, and I think that's Teixeira over his left shoulder.

A Boy Named Seo Feb 18 2009 11:17 AM

They look like they're gettin' ready for a rumble. Who's the tough guy on the far left in black hat and jacket?

TransMonk Feb 18 2009 11:22 AM

Swisher?

seawolf17 Feb 18 2009 11:29 AM

Swisher on the left. And what appears to be Ramon Castro on Sabathia's other side.

Edgy DC Feb 18 2009 11:32 AM

The photo from the front of today's Times is more comprehensive. I couldn't find it, but it pictured senior Yankees Jeter, Rivera, Posada, and Pettitte up fronttitte. The Wal-Mart gangsta look is badness.

seawolf17 Feb 18 2009 11:47 AM

[quote="Edgy DC"]The photo from the front of today's Times is more comprehensive. I couldn't find it, but it pictured senior Yankees Jeter, Rivera, Posada, and Pettitte up fronttitte.

The things they can do with Photoshop these days.

metsguyinmichigan Feb 18 2009 11:53 AM

I thought that photo was a joke! Who's the doof in the affliction shirt? Doesn't Majestic make an Official Roid Apology Press Conference Clubhouse T-shirt, available at MLB.com immediately afterward for $24.99?

metirish Feb 18 2009 12:17 PM

A bunch of wankers .

Benjamin Grimm Feb 18 2009 01:27 PM

They sure do look like a fun group. They're probably worrying that Mariano is going to invite them to a pool party.

Centerfield Feb 18 2009 01:29 PM

What is on Andy Pettite's shirt? Christian rock band?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 18 2009 02:00 PM

Yep. The pious yet exciting sounds of Righteous Anger, formerly Douchecross:

seawolf17 Feb 18 2009 02:02 PM

I think that's me in the sunglasses on the left.

A Boy Named Seo Feb 18 2009 02:28 PM

I liked 'em better when they were Douchecross.

Edgy DC Feb 18 2009 02:31 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 18 2009 02:36 PM

"I'd like to apologize to baseball, my fans, parents .... and my homies --- the Orij'nall Stripmall Pimps in the front row. I ain't got nothin' but love for y'all. Peace."

metirish Feb 18 2009 02:34 PM

Reading their myspace page I think Andy might have found them because he was lost. Righteous Anger was formed back in 1985, then as the Christian Rock band Halo. It was 1990 the band underwent some member changes, and reformed as Righteous Anger. RA had moderate, yet unsigned success. The Band disbanded in 1994. Now.....13 years later, RA has reformed, and reinvented its self. Righteous Anger is a Christian Metal Band, our whole purpose is to spread the inerrant word of God to the Lost, or God will bless those who are saved thru our music. Don't get us wrong, we love to Rock, and Rock hard, but all the members of the band have a passion for ministering to the lost. Remember, we all fall short of the glory of God, but thru the Grace of God, and the Blood of Jesus Christ, and by Christ raising from the Dead, we, as sinners, can have Salvation thru him. Righteous Anger is back with a whole new sound, yes a bit heavier, but also a bit more progressive. The Newest member.....Zakk the timekeeper, fast feet, and thunderous Tom work.....his fresh approach, and youthfulness brings a whole different dynamic to RA. Righteous Angers line up has two original members in it, and another member that came in a couple years later, and the drummer is a fresh new face. "Zakk gives us that youthful energy and drive, an excellent drummer, a really nice addition to this band" Mark (Vocals) Righteous Anger is currently in studio working on the new album, to be released later this year on Soul Joy Records. Also there will be some live shows in the local area. Look for a Late Spring and Summer tour. Righteousangerband.com will be up and running here shortly as well, we hope to have a lot of interesting stuff on there for all. Be sure to stop by our online Merch booth, here on this page, check out all the great RA apparel, and even some shoes.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 18 2009 08:26 PM

Righteous Anger is back with a whole new sound, yes a bit heavier, but also a bit more progressive. The Newest member.....Zakk the timekeeper, fast feet, and thunderous Tom work.....his fresh approach, and youthfulness brings a whole different dynamic to RA. Righteous Angers line up has two original members in it, and another member that came in a couple years later, and the drummer is a fresh new face. "Zakk gives us that youthful energy and drive, an excellent drummer, a really nice addition to this band" Mark (Vocals) So, in short, Zakk has been like a vitamin shot in the ass for an aging Righteous Anger, trying to recover from the injury of their long-ago rift?

OlerudOwned Feb 20 2009 03:21 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9243 ... amon,-Nady Just trying to be like the Mets.

metirish Feb 21 2009 07:13 AM

Son of Yankees VP trafficked steroids in 2002 TAMPA, Fla. - The son of a Yankees senior vice president pleaded guilty to attempted steroid distribution charges in 2003 as part of a federal investigation into a date-rape drug, according to public records from Tampa police and Hillsborough County Court obtained by Newsday. Felix M. Lopez III, the son of George Steinbrenner's son-in-law Felix M. Lopez Jr., was charged with trafficking illegal steroids in 2002, a first-degree felony that was punishable by up to life in prison. Lopez III, 30, cut a plea deal in which he received three years of probation for pleading guilty to possession with intent, which is a second-degree felony, according to Hillsborough County Court records. In an interview with Newsday on Friday, the Yankees senior vice president said he stands by his son. But he said his son will never work for the Yankees because of his past and the negative perception it would create. "Sometimes kids make mistakes," Lopez Jr. said. According to the arrest record filed with the Tampa police department, police obtained several bottles and more than 50 vials of anabolic steroids, as well as two boxes with six bottles of the drug GBL when they raided Lopez's Tampa apartment on Sept. 18, 2002. GBL is commonly referred to as an illegal date-rape drug but also has been used by athletes as a steroid alternative. Police also found an unloaded shotgun in the apartment. One of the vials tested positive for the steroid boldenone undecylenate, according to a laboratory report by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, obtained by Newsday. The steroid, which had been developed for veterinary use, is used by bodybuilders. Other vials tested positive for gamma-Butyrolactone or GBL, the precursor of the date-rape drug GHB, according to the lab report. Charles Massucci, a Tampa detective who arrested Lopez III as part of a federal crackdown on date-rape drugs, said in a telephone interview Friday that bodybuilders were into taking GBL because they believed it induced a deep sleep that aided muscle growth. Lopez III was among 115 people arrested in 80 cities in raids in 2002, according to DEA spokesman Rusty Payne. Lopez III's arrest came in connection with "Operation Webslinger," a federal investigation into the sale of date-rape drugs on the Internet. Detective Massucci and a postal inspector went to the apartment Lopez III was living in at the time with a package that had been mailed to a woman at that address, according to the police record obtained by Newsday. The package had been intercepted and opened by officials and found to contain vials of GBL. When the postal inspector, disguised as a letter carrier, arrived at the front door with the package, he was met by Lopez III, who said the package was for him. Massucci and other law enforcement officials were waiting with a search warrant, and when Lopez III entered the apartment, they knocked on the door, entered, found the various drugs and arrested him, according to police records. Efforts to reach Lopez III were unsuccessful, and his attorney did not return a call for comment. Lopez Jr. was not with the Yankees in 2002. He married Steinbrenner's daughter, Jessica, in 2004 and was a senior vice president beginning the next baseball season. He has become more visible with the organization in recent years, responsible mostly for the state of the spring-training facility in Tampa. Lopez Jr. has been a part of all the major organizational meetings in recent years, including the ones in which they decided Joe Torre's fate after the 2007 season.

Edgy DC Feb 21 2009 07:34 AM

Is he sunglasses guy next to Rivera?

metirish Feb 21 2009 07:39 AM

Yeah that's him , he's the favored son-in-law these days.

Edgy DC Feb 21 2009 08:45 AM

Yankees’ Robinson Cano has high praise for Angel Presinal By Kat O’Brien / Newsday Saturday, February 21, 2009 - Added 5m ago TAMPA, Fla. — Yankees second baseman Robinson Cano has nothing but love for Angel "Nao" Presinal, the Dominican trainer who has been banned from major-league clubhouses for his links to steroids. Presinal is a curious figure. Major League Baseball wants nothing to do with him, but he is popular and widely used in the Dominican Republic. In fact, he was a strength and conditioning coach for the Dominican team during the 2006 World Baseball Classic. Alex Rodriguez, who admitted long-term steroid use last week, was linked to Presinal on Friday by the New York Daily News. On Friday, Presinal told ESPNdeportes.com: "I did work with Alex during that period of time, just like I helped all of my fellow Dominicans. He used to look for me. But I wasn’t working with him on an exclusive basis. I was rotating between players and teams. "I have never advised a player (to take steroids); I have never talked about steroids with any athlete, with any baseball player. I just wish there was someone out there with the courage to accuse me directly. That will never happen because folks respect me." Cano worked out with Presinal in the 2007-08 offseason after an oblique muscle strain. Said Cano: "I heard about him, and how good he is. Every Dominican (player) knows him." Presinal has worked with many of the top players in the Dominican Republic, and Cano was thrilled with how he recovered from his injury. He said he worked out with Presinal nearly daily a year ago and got back to full strength. There have been negative reports about Presinal since a 2001 incident in which a bag filled with steroids reportedly belonging to Presinal’s client, former All-Star outfielder Juan Gonzalez, was found at a Toronto airport. No charges were filed in the incident, but MLB has considered Presinal persona non grata since. Cano acknowledged having heard talk of steroids from TV reports but said he also knows the results other players have obtained through working with Presinal. "To tell you the truth, I don’t care about what happened with him in the past," Cano said. "I would say I know what I’ve got to do, and I know that he can help me." Many players use Presinal while returning from injury, Cano said, adding that he would gladly work with Presinal again if he felt the need. The reason he did not work with Presinal this winter — aside from the fact that he was healthy — is that Cano lives in San Pedro de Macoris and Presinal in Santo Domingo. The round-trip drive of two to three hours daily for workouts takes a toll, and Cano preferred to work out closer to home. Cano said he didn’t worry about the risk of being tainted as "guilty by association" because he knows he hasn’t done anything wrong. He would not comment on whether Rodriguez is associated with Presinal but confirmed that he had seen Presinal around the team in the past couple of seasons — not in any official capacity but in places such as the team hotel, at the gym or in restaurants in cities in which the Yankees were playing. Several other Yankees from the Dominican Republic — Melky Cabrera, Damaso Marte and non-roster infielder Angel Berroa — said they are familiar with Presinal but have not worked with him. Presinal also has worked with a few current and former Mets. Luis Castillo said he used to work out with him but "not anymore." Jose Reyes said he knows him from the 2006 Dominican WBC team. Mets general manager Omar Minaya said Presinal works with a lot of athletes in the Dominican, not just baseball players. Asked if the Mets or MLB had told players not to work out with him, Minaya said, "I don’t know if you can do that." (Ed: That's such a Steve Phillips answer.) Presinal’s roster of current and former famous clients include former Mets Pedro Martinez and Moises Alou and former Yankee Ruben Sierra, as well as David Ortiz [stats], Vladimir Guerrero, Bartolo Colon, Miguel Tejada, Adrian Beltre and Jose Guillen, according to reports. Staff writers David Lennon and Anthony Rieber contributed to this story. (Ed: Hey, Kat O'Brien, you don't need no Lennon, and you sure don't need no Rieber.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 24 2009 06:41 PM

This is awesome: Following is text of an actual letter the MFYs sent their fans: Good Morning, Do [sic] to the overwhelming demand for season tickets, all plans were distributed subject to availability. In the event that the partial plan you requested was not available, you were assigned an alternative plan (subject to availability). From here you have the option to either accept or decline, if you decline (if the plan does not meet your needs or budget) you can go into your my Yankees account (under personal preferences) and mark down that you wish to decline and/ or enter the pool process for your preferred plan, At this point you cannot change your seats or plans unless your [sic] interested in the $350 seats. If you accept then the full payment will be due on Feb 27th which you can pay online or by calling (718) xxx-xxxx. Because of the demand for all season tickets, we stronly [sic] suggest that ticket Licensees accept their initial seat assignments. The demand for many plans will definetely [sic] exceed the available seats locations and if you decline your assignment there may not be any availability in the alternative seat location and/ or plan that you request. If you have any questions or concerns I would suggest to call (718) xxx-xxxx and we can try to assist you. Sincerely, New York Yankees Ticket Operations Yankee Stadium 161st Street & River Avenue Bronx, NY 10451 Not to mention this note is all about strong-arming fans into buying the most expensive seats since they'd oversold the mid-priced ones. Stay classy, MFYs.

metirish Mar 03 2009 08:17 PM

A lex Rodriguez has a cyst on his hip and will travel to Colorado to see a specialist tomorrow . Rodriguez is expected to miss the WBC although MLB sources are saying he won't...of course they are.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 03 2009 11:00 PM

[quote="metirish":1sfrepzs]A lex Rodriguez has a cyst on his hip and will travel to Colorado to see a specialist tomorrow . Rodriguez is expected to miss the WBC although MLB sources are saying he won't...of course they are.[/quote:1sfrepzs] Is said cyst a blood relation?

bmfc1 Mar 04 2009 05:26 AM

Did he get the cyst from his cousin?

soupcan Mar 04 2009 07:54 AM

I realize this is the media trying to make sumpin' outta nuttin' but I love the fact that A-Rod just cannot get out of his own way... LOOSE LIPS A-ROD HAS CYST ON HIP By KEVIN KERNAN March 4, 2009 -- JUPITER, Fla. - Chalk up yet another day when Alex Rodriguez rocked the Yankee Universe. Rodriguez first shook things up yesterday afternoon when he tried to compliment Jose Reyes, which left A-Rod open to criticism that he had dissed Derek Jeter. A second tremor came last night when it was revealed the Rodriguez has a hip injury that likely will knock him out of the World Baseball Classic, sources said. Earlier in the day when I asked A-Rod about the Mets shortstop's laser running ability, he said, "I wish he was leading off on our team or playing on our team; that's fun to watch." "Our team" happens to be the Yankees, which has Jeter at short and Johnny Damon leading off. Shortly after A-Rod made his statement, he sent word through a WBC official that he did not mean anything negative toward Jeter. Too late, the blogo-sphere was off and running with the quote, and once again A-Rod was being criticized for saying the wrong thing, even though he was simply trying to praise Reyes. As for the right hip injury, Rodriguez will fly to Colorado today to be examined by Dr. Marc Phillopon. Turns out Rodriguez had an MRI Saturday in Tampa, and a cyst was discovered in the hip before he came to the WBC. Rodriguez has had tightness in the hip, going back to last season. On Monday, during the Dominican team practice, he ran sprints and stretched, showing no signs of any problems. But hip explosion is essential to hitting. He was 1-for-3 yesterday with a double in the 10-1 win over the Marlins and left the game in the fifth inning. "He has no pain," said a Yankees source. "We just want to take every precaution." In a statement Brian Cashman said, "We felt it was in everyone's best interests - for the team and the player - to send Alex to Dr. Phillopon, who is regarded as the leading expert in his field." The Yankees, no fans of the WBC, likely will pull A-Rod from the tournament because too much is at stake. Rodriguez has been in the middle of a steroid storm this spring, and this is another setback. Though A-Rod repeated he is having a great time, the WBC has already caused him problems like with his Reyes comment. He could have chosen his words better. The politically correct answer would have been: "It's great to be Jose's WBC teammate. It's great to be playing with Derek Jeter, a first-ballot Hall of Famer, every day with the Yankees." I don't think life should be that scripted, though. I like it when athletes live in the moment, let it go and say what they have to say. That's what makes them human, and if we've learned anything about A-Rod over the last few weeks, he is human. He makes plenty of mistakes. But let's be honest, he didn't exactly come out and say, "I hate Jeter." And, honestly, wouldn't you want Reyes leading off for any team? After A-Rod praised Reyes and Hanley Ramirez, I asked Rodriguez if he watched Reyes run the bases. That's when he smiled and said, "I wish he was leading off on our team or playing on our team; that's fun to watch." A-Rod then caught himself, hitting the edit button. "Anytime you have that type of speed; we have a guy in [Brett] Gardner, that's probably the most fun you can have is watching a guy like that run." The press conference ended. A-Rod punched the edit button again, sending word through a representative he did not mean anything against Jeter. The WBC format does not allow media into the clubhouse, so there were no more explanations. The hole had been dug. Yes, Jeter always says the right thing and would not get in such a mess. But that can be boring; A-Rod is never boring. He's never going to be Jeter and that's a good thing. He's different. A-Rod's hip injury is much more of a concern than an off-the-cuff comment. kevin.kernan@nypost.com

metirish Mar 04 2009 08:00 AM

I'd feel bad for him if he were't who he was.....the report I read had him not only sending word through the Dominican PR guy but also he called the MFY's to make sure he was not misinterpreted. UNREAL

Edgy DC Mar 04 2009 08:05 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 04 2009 09:37 PM

It says something about how the guy has been buried that a Post reporter is trying to dig him out. When a tabloid starts feeling bad about how much you've been milked, well, I'm surprised the cyst isn't on his nipple.

Fman99 Mar 04 2009 03:55 PM

He should just come in with a 1980's Saints fan-style paper bag on his head and not speak at all. He could draw a happy face on it and be done.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 13 2009 09:19 AM

Woman claims Bernie hit her at club Thursday, March 12, 2009 NorthJersey.com SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — A woman has filed a complaint against former Yankees center fielder Bernie Williams for allegedly hitting her at a nightclub while she took his picture. Officer Angel Nazario said the woman claimed Williams snatched the camera, damaged it and hit her in the face. The incident allegedly happened around 2:30 a.m. Thursday at a San Juan nightclub, hours after the Puerto Rican team beat the Netherlands 5-0 in the World Baseball Classic. Williams, who is playing for Puerto Rico, left with the team on Thursday for Miami. It will play the United States in the tournament’s second round. Officer Marisol de Jesus said police are investigating. Team manager Lou Melendez did not immediately return a call for comment.

G-Fafif Mar 13 2009 09:30 AM

Francesa: This woman, if that's what she is, has no business being in a club that late. She shouldn't be trying to steal Bernie's soul with a camera. What is she doing that for? Bernie's just too good a soul to have her arrested. Bernie just goes to that club because its kitchen is big enough to cook breakfast for all the orphans he cooks breakfast for! Everybody knows he has to have it done by five in the morning so Derek and Andy and Jorge can start delivering it. Everybody knows that! Bernie would still be playing with the Yanks except he was tired of the guilt he was carrying around from taking the food out of the mouths of so many pitchers!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 17 2009 07:04 PM

http://www.newsday.com/iphone/ny-sparod ... 7514.story So we've all seen this, yes? Joke-off! Aaaaaaand... begin.

Fman99 Mar 17 2009 07:34 PM

Mr. Cashman? Yeah, it's me, Alex. Do you know what the best thing is to remove semen stains from a mirror? OK, call me back.

metsguyinmichigan Mar 17 2009 08:16 PM

"So this is what Madonna sees when I pucker these sweet lips!"

metirish Mar 17 2009 08:20 PM

There are times when words are not enough with this guy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 17 2009 08:37 PM

"Would you f*ck me, Yuri? I would f*ck me."

Edgy DC Mar 17 2009 09:10 PM

"Extreme success can be alienating, it's true. But I'm not alone. Not since I found... Xela."

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 17 2009 09:24 PM

One of you HAS to blow that photo up and hang it from the rails at the 1st MFY-NYM game.

Edgy DC Mar 17 2009 09:29 PM

Iubitul probably has the equipment to put that sucker on a bedsheet.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 18 2009 01:49 PM

I would-- we have a giant printer at work for map-production-- but, really? This is kinda disturbing. I don't scare easy-- checked coats at an anything-goes kink club in Philly during college, and have had friends with many an exotic personality quirk-- but I wish I could unsee this.

G-Fafif Mar 18 2009 01:53 PM

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":2cq3wruh]I don't scare easy-- checked coats at an anything-goes kink club in Philly during college...[/quote:2cq3wruh] I find it interesting that a club where anything went, people were particular about not just tossing their coat any old place.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 18 2009 02:44 PM

[quote="G-Fafif"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]I don't scare easy-- checked coats at an anything-goes kink club in Philly during college...

I find it interesting that a club where anything went, people were particular about not just tossing their coat any old place.


Speaking more accurately, it was the analog of coat-checking at said club-- more often, they were bags, or pieces that might be better decribed as "coverings" (think: tarps for human rain delays).

G-Fafif Mar 18 2009 02:46 PM

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="G-Fafif"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]I don't scare easy-- checked coats at an anything-goes kink club in Philly during college...

I find it interesting that a club where anything went, people were particular about not just tossing their coat any old place.

Speaking more accurately, it was the analog of coat-checking at said club-- more often, they were bags, or pieces that might be better decribed as "coverings" (think: tarps for human rain delays).

I withdraw the observation.

And offer my retroactive sympathies.

Edgy DC Mar 26 2009 05:55 PM

Some guy named Kevin spooges all over himself, somehow forgets to mention Jeter. Kevin Frisch: Mets to play in shadow of new Yankee Stadium By Kevin Frisch GateHouse News Service Posted Mar 26, 2009 @ 05:44 PM Even late in the day, when the sun is at its lowest, the shadow cast by the new Yankee Stadium in the Bronx does not reach all the way to Queens. Literally, that is. But make no mistake, when the New York Mets trot out of the dugout April 13 to play their first game in their own new ballfield, Yankee Stadium will indeed be blotting out the sun that is the New York City media. It will mark the latest chorus in which the Mets play second fiddle to their more established, more successful, more ... everything crosstown rivals, the New York Yankees. The two new venues are as different as their tenants. Yankee Stadium is all granite and limestone, a solid monument of a building reflecting the gravitas and sturdiness of the franchise. Even the name speaks of a team that is used to doing things on its own; no corporate sponsor for us, thank you. The Mets' new park is designed to resemble the late, lamented Ebbets Field, home of the old Brooklyn Dodgers. While the Yankees revel in their history, the Mets are left to appropriate someone else's. And the name? Citi Field. The Mets, with their usual impeccable timing, managed to marry their fortunes to one of the institutions now receiving government bailout funds. There's a good omen for you. And this figures: The Yankees have a “stadium.” Definition: A large, modern structure, with tiered seating for spectators, used for athletic games. The Mets, a “field.” Definition: Something you find behind an elementary school. In moving into Citi Field, the Mets tore down their old home, Shea Stadium, to the despair of practically no one. Shea was a venue whose charm lie solely on the field. Sure it hosted some historic moments — the Beatles playing the first concert at a major stadium in 1965 (I wasn't there), the improbable, come-from-behind 10th inning victory in Game 6 of the 1986 World Series (I wasn't there), that streaker in 1974 who eluded security for a full two minutes in the outfield before being brought down when he couldn't scale the centerfield fence (that, I was there for) — but it offered neither comfort nor character. But now the two teams have new homes. Yankee Stadium (projected cost, $1.6 billion) and Citi Field (projected cost: $850 million). Baseball tradition holds that if a franchise builds a new stadium, the All-Star Game that year will be played there. Any guesses which venue will be hosting this summer's All-Star Game? That's right, Yankee Stadium. Any guesses which team will host the All-Star Game next year? That's right, the Los Angeles Angels. The Mets get so little respect they should have named their park Rodney Danger Field. All of of which reinforces my long-held theory that the Mets are the little brother of New York City baseball. Except for brief and all-but-inexplicable aberrations — the "Miracle Mets" of 1969; going from last place to first in the final month of the 1973 season and making the playoffs with a whopping 82-79 won-loss record; that ball rolling through Bill Buckner's legs in the 1986 World Series — the Mets are also-rans. The Yankees, meanwhile, are the talented eldest son who effortlessly makes the honor roll year after year. The Yankees build dynasties; the Mets build character. The Yankees have 28 players (not to mention nine managers) in the Hall of Fame; the Mets have one. Yankees fans have chips on their shoulders; Mets fans have ulcers. Mets fans are loyal, resilient, optimistic, enjoy the excitement of uncertain outcomes and realize that life is not fair — especially to the Mets. Yankee fans are far less complicated: They enjoy the monotony of winning. So it should come as no surprise that their new homes should reflect their relative stations in Big Apple Baseballdom. The sun shines brightly for the Bronx Bombers. Over at City Field, there's always that shadow. Contact Daily Messenger managing editor Kevin Frisch at (585) 394-0770/Ext. 257 or by e-mail at kfrisch@messengerpostmedia.com.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 26 2009 05:58 PM

If mainstream media really is dead, as many claim, it's because they employ too many idiots.

metirish Mar 26 2009 06:13 PM

The Yankees have 28 players (not to mention nine managers) in the Hall of Fame; the Mets have one. just so dumb...... Even late in the day, when the sun is at its lowest, the shadow cast by the new Yankee Stadium in the Bronx does not reach all the way to Queens. Literally, that is. Oh please , that's Lupica 101.......

dinosaur jesus Mar 26 2009 06:18 PM

Interesting theory about the Mets being the little brother of New York baseball. I don't think I've ever heard it before. Retarded cousin, awkward sister--those I've heard. But little brother? Wow. Give him points for originality. But he's way off about the Mets having only one Hall of Fame player. Please, the number is two. Gary Carter counts in my book, no matter what cap he's wearing on his plaque.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 26 2009 06:36 PM

I mean, what do you say to crap like this? There's really nothing. Well, except for the fact that fact-checking something like which team is "hosting this summer's All-Star Game" (answer: St. Louis, not the MFYs) should be second nature to someone who claims any permutation of the title "editor." Oh, and that it apparently doesn't come so naturally to Mr. Frisch tells me all I need to know about the attention to detail that attends his particular sort of hackery.

TheOldMole Mar 26 2009 07:00 PM

Three. I claim Willie Mays.

seawolf17 Mar 26 2009 07:56 PM

Fuck that; I claim Casey too.

DocTee Mar 26 2009 08:16 PM

and Yogi

Fman99 Mar 26 2009 08:33 PM

That article was quite cunty.

Kong76 Mar 26 2009 08:37 PM

Edgy DC Mar 26 2009 09:15 PM

I claim Hornsby. Die a Met. Stay a Met.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 26 2009 09:50 PM

I was a big Rickey Henderson fan. I stake my claim. Warren Spahn, too, 'cause I'm feeling greedy right now. Might as well take Piazza. Incoming.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 26 2009 09:53 PM

And who the hell is the greatest Yankee to have played his entire career post-1961? I'll tell you who it ain't ..... George Thomas. That's who it's not.

dinosaur jesus Mar 26 2009 09:56 PM

I claim this guy, because he was the Seaver of his day.

metsguyinmichigan Mar 26 2009 11:56 PM

Keep 'em coming! Duke Snider, Richie Ashburn. Bob Gibson was a coach! That article was so over the top, it was like the kind of thing we do here when we're making fun of Yankee hacks. I mean, he can't be serious about at least a third of that crap, can he?

G-Fafif Mar 27 2009 05:35 AM

This week's long-distance dedication is sent out to Kevin Frisch for keeping his feet in his mouth while reaching for insipid conclusions.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 27 2009 06:04 AM

[quote="dinosaur jesus"]

Very nice!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 27 2009 06:36 AM

[quote="Benjamin Grimm"][quote="dinosaur jesus"]

Very nice!

Exceedingly nice.

Along the lines of Piazza... I do NOT claim Gl*vine.

Edgy DC Mar 27 2009 06:40 AM

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":3n9r0l33]If mainstream media really is dead, as many claim, it's because they employ too many idiots.[/quote:3n9r0l33] According to the byline, he's the managing editor.

G-Fafif Mar 27 2009 06:46 AM

[quote="Edgy DC":1av7ienk][quote="Benjamin Grimm":1av7ienk]If mainstream media really is dead, as many claim, it's because they employ too many idiots.[/quote:1av7ienk] According to the byline, he's the managing editor.[/quote:1av7ienk] The Norwich Bulletin: Managed into the ground.

MFS62 Mar 27 2009 07:12 AM

[quote="G-Fafif":ooezc9i5] [quote="Edgy DC":ooezc9i5] According to the byline, he's the managing editor.[/quote:ooezc9i5] The Norwich Bulletin: Managed into the ground.[/quote:ooezc9i5] EDIT: I changed my mind. The article WAS cunty. Later

metirish Apr 07 2009 02:33 PM

The Smoking Gun got the transcript and video of Fat Joba's arrest for DUI last year , in it Fat Joba assumes the cop knows who he is.....bad mouths New Yorkers.... Joba Goes Nine (Steps)! Yankee pitcher completes field sobriety test in video from DUI arrest APRIL 6--While devoid of Plaxicoesque bombast and vulgarity, the police video of Joba Chamberlain's DUI arrest is not without its amusing moments. After a Nebraska State Patrol officer pulled the pitcher over for speeding last October, the athlete assumed that the cop knew who he was. "I came from Florida," Chamberlain said, "and obviously I play for the Yankees." During a friendly conversation, Trooper Michael Grummert--who retrieved an open bottle of Crown Royal from the passenger seat of Chamberlain's BMW--asked the athlete what he thought of New York. The pitcher responded that "opening a door and saying please and thank you" were rare in Gotham. As for driving, Chamberlain noted that if you let a fellow Nebraska motorist cut in ahead of you, they would roll down their window and say thanks. In New York, "They might hit you. It's a joke." Asked what it was like playing in Yankee Stadium, Chamberlain, a former catcher, mentioned meeting Yogi Berra in the locker room: "I go, 'Yogi, what the fuck are you doing here?" The Yankee great, Chamberlain recalled, replied, "You know what? It's too cold for my old ass to be here." Referring to Berra's height, the pitcher added, "No bullshit, he might not be as tall as the front of your car." A couple of excerpts from the Chamberlain DUI video can be found at right. While seated in the police cruiser's front seat, Chamberlain, 23, was directed to twice recite the alphabet. Before beginning, he asked Grummert whether he would have to say the letters backwards, and wondered whether the trooper had seen a certain famous online video. "Have you ever seen the test on the Internet? The dude does it from forward to backwards and then starts, he does it backwards and starts dancing." Chamberlain added, "The officer has it on tape on her camera. She starts dancing and he says, 'I don't do that 'cause I'm drunk.'" The video in question, however, is actually a clip from the Comedy Central show "Reno 911." Chamberlain, though, is not the only one to have been fooled into believing the clip was from actual police dashboard camera footage. Moments after Chamberlain submitted to a Breathalyzer test, which he failed, another cop pulled up to the scene. Noting that the motorist in his car was about to be arrested, Grummert said, "He's going. He pitches for the Yankees, by the way." The second cop replied, "Is it Chamberlain? It's Joba?" Chamberlain, whose mug shot you'll find here, pleaded guilty last week to drunk driving and was placed on probation for nine months and had his license suspended for 60 days. (1 page) Joba mugshot from DUI last year http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/ye ... joba1.html

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 07 2009 02:42 PM

[quote="metirish":3mhun43i]The Smoking Gun got the transcript and video of Fat Joba's arrest for DUI last year , in it Fat Joba assumes the cop knows who he is.....bad mouths New Yorkers....[/quote:3mhun43i] Changed my mind. Joba should work out of the bullpen, where he can more readily make an impact by accepting compliments for seven innings a game.

Centerfield Apr 07 2009 03:03 PM

What the fuck is he wearing? He looks like a catcher for the Alcatraz All-Stars.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 07 2009 04:09 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 07 2009 05:06 PM

The pitcher responded that "opening a door and saying please and thank you" were rare in Gotham. As for driving, Chamberlain noted that if you let a fellow Nebraska motorist cut in ahead of you, they would roll down their window and say thanks. In New York, "They might hit you. It's a joke." He added, "In Nebraska, if you ask them to build a stadium, they smile politely as they tell you gently to fuck yourself. In New York, they hand you 800 million of public funds. It's really hilarious."

Met Hunter Apr 07 2009 05:04 PM

You guys forgot one HOFer that was a big part of that "aberration" in 1969. Nolan Ryan. I'm looking at those choppers and I'm thinking of the MFY facade. Dickheads like him have to root for MFYs. to compensate for a small dick and a fucked up head. That way they're really not losers. OK, I feel better.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 08 2009 12:02 PM

Here's how that conversation SHOULD have gone: "I came from Florida," Chamberlain said, "and obviously I play for the Yankees." COP 1: "Oh, good. I get to use my night stick." COP 2: "No, pepper spray." COP 1: "What? Why would you do that?" COP 2: "Pepper spray doesn't leave briuses." Joba: "Yogi's really small. But I know Derek. He's really nice." COP 1: "Wow. He IS drunk. And stupid."

Edgy DC Apr 08 2009 12:09 PM

[quote="Centerfield":2jzz4sd9]What the fuck is he wearing? He looks like a catcher for the Alcatraz All-Stars.[/quote:2jzz4sd9] Give him time.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 08 2009 12:13 PM

[quote="Centerfield"]What the fuck is he wearing? He looks like a catcher for the Alcatraz All-Stars.

Was thinking more Gashouse Gorillas:
http://ussmariner.com/features//umpire_displacement.png

G-Fafif Apr 14 2009 01:29 PM

For no reason other than a desire to hear baseball chatter in the background, I put on Michael Kay, and he is beseeching Posada and Jeter to have a talk with Nick Swisher because Swish appears to be enjoying himself too much. The Yankee way goes on.

OlerudOwned Apr 14 2009 01:50 PM

[quote="G-Fafif":34ekri4z]For no reason other than a desire to hear baseball chatter in the background, I put on Michael Kay, and he is beseeching Posada and Jeter to have a talk with Nick Swisher because Swish appears to be enjoying himself too much. The Yankee way goes on.[/quote:34ekri4z] I hope they run him across town. I've had a baseball crush on the guy for a while now, funny dude and an outstanding hitter.

G-Fafif Apr 14 2009 02:05 PM

Moving over to MF on FAN (their Lojack found me again), the Swisher pitching and enjoying himself thing is becoming a Thing. The arbiter of all that is anything says it's all right with him that Swish saved the ball or laughed or whatever 'cause it's April. If it were September, he boomed, it wouldn't have happened. Got me thinking that, well, no, the rosters expand in September, thus you don't use position players to pitch. But then I remembered the Mets' first experience with pitching players was a September blowout at the hands of the Pirates, this one. It was a joint production of New York's Gonna Love Bill Pecota and his manager/hypeman Jeff Torborg. We had worked through Hillman, Whitehurst, Gibson, Dewey and Innis over seven innings. Trailing 18-2, it was Pecota to the hill. Van Slyke led off the eighth with a homer, then Pecota set 'em down in order. I ask now...why? How is it those mentally and spiritually besotted 1992 Mets didn't have an extra relief pitcher to soak up one lousy inning at the end of one lousy year? How do you wind up using Bill Pecota? Barry Jones and Lee Guetterman each pitched an inning the night before. Anthony Young, by then the closer of record (Franco was injured), hadn't bitched in two nights. And you had to use Bill Pecota? If this were Jose Oquendo, let's let him play all nine positions, OK, fine. But I remember Torborg being taciturn and disgusted afterwards, that this isn't funny, this is the worst thing that can happen. Yet with extra (granted terrible) arms all around, you couldn't get three outs of out of somebody? Worst team money could buy. And worst manager anyone could hire.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 14 2009 02:35 PM

[quote="G-Fafif":1t02vsqg] Worst team money could buy. And worst manager anyone could hire.[/quote:1t02vsqg] And he didn't bat Magadan leadoff, either.

Edgy DC Apr 14 2009 05:10 PM

[quote="G-Fafif":300kpowk] Anthony Young, by then the closer of record (Franco was injured), hadn't bitched in two nights.[/quote:300kpowk] Which is more than could have been said of me.

metirish Apr 15 2009 12:37 PM

Suit: Yankees force fans to sit for 'God Bless America' THE ASSOCIATED PRESS 2:21 PM EDT, April 15, 2009 A baseball fan says he was ejected from Yankee Stadium for leaving his seat to use the bathroom while "God Bless America" played. Bradford Campeau-Laurion filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday against New York City and the Yankees. The lawsuit contends he was made a victim of political and religious discrimination on Aug. 26. It says two police officers who ejected him were enforcing a Yankees policy that keeps spectators in their seats during the song. A spokeswoman says the city law office has no immediate comment. A Yankees representative did not immediately return a call

Benjamin Grimm Apr 15 2009 12:50 PM

If such a policy exists, it's insane. Do they also require people to take off their caps during the national anthem?

Edgy DC Apr 15 2009 12:52 PM

They've been getting away with it for years. They pulled that shit on sharpie.

metirish Apr 15 2009 12:55 PM

I remember posting from an article a few years ago about patrons complaining that security personnel would chain in sections so people could not leave their seats during the playing of that song.

Gwreck Apr 15 2009 12:56 PM

They do indeed have the policy of keeping the fans in their seat area. It's disgusting. As for the merit to the suit, the civil rights violation comes from the police being the ones to enforce the policy. The officers in question definitely kicked this guy out of the stadium and used physical force to do so. The news accounts when this happened last August were of the police claiming that the guy was drunk and disorderly and using profanity while the guy claimed all he said was "I don't care about God Bless America, I just need to use the bathroom." (News link here). Believe who you will, but my experience tells me that if the plaintiff does indeed have that additional witness (mentioned in the story above) on board, NYC will be paying out some bucks in a settlement on this case. Liability as to the Yankees is limited.

themetfairy Apr 15 2009 01:36 PM

On a not exactly related but semi-related note. Opening Day, a guy saw my backpack, and asked how I got it into Citi Field. I said security looked inside it and let me bring it in, as always. The guy was shocked - the MFYs don't let people bring bags into their park, apparently.

Gwreck Apr 15 2009 01:55 PM

They used to be a bit more lenient but apparently the new park is only going to allow "small purses" or "small backpack purses," and the only beverages you can bring in are "factory-sealed bottles of water."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 15 2009 02:00 PM

[quote="Gwreck":2inuda48]They used to be a bit more lenient but apparently the new park is only going to allow "small purses" or "small backpack purses," and the only beverages you can bring in are "factory-sealed bottles of water."[/quote:2inuda48] For at least the last 10 years (at least since the late '90s), they haven't let bags in at all, small purses aside-- take it from someone who's fought through his share of Spankfan elbows trying to check his bag at the bowling alley down the street.

Gwreck Apr 15 2009 02:07 PM

I guess it depends on the security guards. I had no problem getting food in -- in bags -- the last few years. Seems to me they even supplied clear plastic bags at the gate so you could transfer your stuff into those rather than the bag you brought it in.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 15 2009 02:14 PM

Xavier Nady to miss the whole damn season with elbow woes. I don't wish that even on a Yankee approaching free agency.

G-Fafif Apr 16 2009 06:58 AM

Derek Jeter drove in the winning run yesterday, thus Newsday frames him (wearing the same number as everybody else yesterday) as Just Like Jackie. I guess there's some legitimacy in that comparison. Jeter, after all, did break the boring barrier.

Edgy DC Apr 16 2009 07:16 AM

Jackie Robinson changed positions when it was right for the team --- several times.

Rockin' Doc Apr 16 2009 11:10 AM

[quote="Edgy DC"]Jackie Robinson changed positions when it was right for the team --- several times.

Wham!!! Well played, sir.

metirish Apr 16 2009 02:23 PM

Hank's facebook Facebook

OlerudOwned Apr 17 2009 10:42 AM

metirish Apr 17 2009 10:45 AM

No way?....is that a photoshop job?.......love the skyline fuckers

Edgy DC Apr 17 2009 10:54 AM

I love seeing the word Met there.

seawolf17 Apr 17 2009 11:49 AM

Jeez, that's an enormous video screen. I saw that Carl Pavano thing in one of the papers this morning... pretty funny, actually. The Mets have a closed-captioning board too, up in right field.

Centerfield Apr 17 2009 11:55 AM

That screen is awesome. I want one in my living room.

Frayed Knot Apr 17 2009 02:04 PM

100' x 60' (I think that's what I heard)

seawolf17 Apr 17 2009 02:27 PM

Damn. Too small for my living room.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 17 2009 03:25 PM

Jeff Passan from Yahoo! Sports offers his impressions on Yankee Stadium. Yankee Stadium and its 2,473-calorie popcorn By Jeff Passan, Yahoo! Sports Apr 16, 8:34 pm EDT Yahoo! Sports NEW YORK – Let’s start with the popcorn. It is unfair to call it a tub of popcorn, as they do at the new Yankee Stadium. Perhaps a trough of popcorn, or a tank of popcorn, and, at 2,473 calories, definitely a gutbuster of popcorn. All around the newest theater of excess are such indulgences, culinary and otherwise, this particular caloric dirty bomb available for $12. That’s the thing about the new Yankee Stadium: Not only is it the biggest, the newest, the most expensive and the self-described best – the homage to everything that was America – it gets away with it, charm intact, for one simple reason. The New York Yankees are unapologetic in their embrace of that culture. They are the canyon of popcorn and the 1,410-calorie plate of nachos and the 1,360-calorie bag of peanuts and the 1,341-calorie cup of cheese fries, and their fans are still begging for a heart attack. Which made the official christening of the $1.5 billion stadium Thursday afternoon an event laden with grins and excitement (and arterial plaque buildup), even as the Cleveland Indians stomped the Yankees, 10-2. More than halfway through April, the Yankees finally had their home opener, and any of the 48,271 present can attest that the team’s new dwelling lived up to its billing, good and bad. It’s unclear whether Yankee Stadium wants to be a ballpark with killer amenities or a mall with a baseball field in the middle. The inside of the stadium is freakishly loyal to its predecessor, like twins who look identical but are actually fraternal. The differences are ornamental, and because of its classic look, the initial thought is: Really, $1.5 billion? And you didn’t reinvent the baseball stadium like Camden Yards in 1993? The toilet seats are definitely gold-plated, right? One trip around the concourse, and suddenly the cost makes more sense. It is a sea of goods, the free market through a Yankee kaleidoscope, a study in old-fashioned gluttony. It is a cheesesteak line 50 people deep, and a beer garden serving 14 sudsy favorites, and pink foam fingers next to pink hats with flowers alongside pink hats with glitter-covered NY logos. Next to the hat wall, where more than 100 styles are available, stood Kelley Rutkowski, a 23-year-old from New Jersey. She already had wrecked her diet for the day with the nachos and was inclined to do similar damage with her credit card, because her seat happened to be in the shade, and she was chilly. She found a hooded sweatshirt adorned with rhinestones. She looked at the price tag: $125. Rutkowski quickly summoned David Sidibe, a young salesman. “Those are diamonds, right?” she said. Sidibe’s eyes apologized. “I literally can’t afford to keep warm at this game,” Rutkowski said. “Can I just tell you, David, this is a sin. I’m freaking freezing, and there’s no way I’m spending $125 on a freaking sweatshirt, because that’s how this country got into this mess.” Never have $125 hoodies been mentioned alongside credit-default swaps and subprime mortgages. Indeed, a day of firsts, from that to Johnny Damon slicing the first hit into center field and Jorge Posada mashing the first home run into the new Monument Park in center. “I knew that when I came here,” Rutkowski said, “I was going to spend a bunch of money I don’t have.” Rutkowski didn’t give in to the hoodie’s 74 rhinestones, principle preventing her from brandishing her MasterCard. Others did, and the Yankees reaped untold millions in merchandise and concession sales. Forget the competitive advantage given them by location and television rights; the Yankees’ revenues from the vendors and the tickets that range up to $2,625 for the front row will do plenty to cover a $200 million payroll. All because people buy into what the Yankees sell. It’s a lifestyle based around winning, and how doing so demands the biggest, newest and best. Depending on the perspective, either the Yankees are profiteers and the fans suckers, or both are willing participants in a time-honored waltz: pure commercialism. N.Y. Daily News Yankee Stadium tour View the N.Y. Daily News’ interactive Stadium tour. Otherwise, the Yankees would still be at the old stadium, American sports’ truest cauldron of history. It remains standing next door and over the next few years will be picked apart by the atom and sold. And if the Yankees could split those atoms and peddle each for double, surely they would. Now, instead of the filth and funk of an 85-year-old stadium, the Yankees offer pears. Three kinds. And three varieties of apples, too. And tangerines and oranges and bananas, all for sale at the farmer’s market, which is near the Legends Suite Club, with its folded napkins, polished silverware and vases housing flowers. And, for Ruth and Mickey and Joe D’s sake, the Lobel’s stand that sells hunks of uncooked meat. In a stadium. Four ribeyes for $120. It’s one thing to push an island of popcorn. But beef? Raw beef? Deep down, beneath the Yankees’ money-making behemoth, could there exist the slightest sliver of guilt for something as disturbing as seeing dry-aged beef on display in a ballpark? Nope. Not an iota. And it’s edifying, in a way, that the Yankees stayed true to themselves and their believers, responsibility be damned. It’s the American way, after all. “This is going to stand the test of time,” Yankees outfielder Johnny Damon said. “The economy will one day get right. So in time, people will look at this and say it’s definitely worth it.” They’ll look at the Great Hall, ultimately the stadium showpiece, a meeting place festooned with vertical banners of Yankees greats. It’s a long corridor walled with impossibly large pieces of limestone and granite, the sort that recall an opulent style abandoned long ago. Few are willing to spend the necessary money for such quality. Why do the Yankees? It’s who they are. Another stop in the gift shop spells it out explicitly. A different hooded sweatshirt, one without rhinestones, is available for $70. On the front it reads YANKEES UNIVERSE, a friendly reminder for those who may have forgotten. Jeff Passan is a national baseball writer for Yahoo! Sports. Send Jeff a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2009 09:38 PM

Chicken or egg? http://business.theatlantic.com/2009/04 ... e_fans.php

Frayed Knot Apr 25 2009 06:08 AM

Lotsa DL-ing going on in da Bronx all of a sudden. - Set-up man Brian Bruney is in NYC to have a sore elbow examined and gets the 15-day sentence. - ARod replacement (and surely the reason they're winning right?) Cody Ransom out with strained quad - and whattayaknow, they found an injury with which they could shelve CM Wang. They couldn't demote him without exposing him to waivers (which they weren't about to do) so they "found" a strained Schwartzenmeyer joint (or whatever) and put him on the 15-day 'What the fuck do with do with this guy' list. Phil Hughes to start in his stead for now. - Nady still out with his elbow problem although it's not looking like a season-ending deal as first thought.

Edgy DC Apr 25 2009 07:40 AM

One more bad start and I bet Mike Pelfrey's schwartzenmeyer starts flaring up.

Fman99 Apr 25 2009 10:22 AM

[quote="Edgy DC":2ky8bqnb]One more bad start and I bet Mike Pelfrey's schwartzenmeyer starts flaring up.[/quote:2ky8bqnb] Best cure for that is a gallon of Meyerhoff Tonic.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 27 2009 09:43 AM

There hasn't been nearly enough gloating over the MFYs humiliation in Boston this weekend. They weren't just swept, they were kicked in the nuts three times: Friday: mariano goives up a 2-run, 2 out, game-tying HR in the 9th and they lose in 11 Sat: AJ Burnett can;t handle a 6-run lead and the bullpen is battered in a 16-11 loss Last Night: Sox complete ther sweep thanks in part to a steal of home by Jacoby Ellsbury off Pettitte/Posada (see if you can find ourt old friend Gary Thorne's radio call: He's always shouting but this time it was cool) In addition, they DLed Wang (hip), Cody Ransom, their replacement for $-rod, went down with a leg thing and Brian Bruney, the only reliever who hasn't sucked for them so far, also got injured. Go MFYs, Go!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 27 2009 09:47 AM

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":o1n88uns]There hasn't been nearly enough gloating over the MFYs humiliation in Boston this weekend.[/quote:o1n88uns] An Ollie game will do that to you. But yeah, pretty sweet. (Caught the Jason Bay home run on Friday-- Rivera knew it was gone off the bat, and was visibly trying to verbally urge it to catch the Monster's corner. The Ellsbury straight steal was beautiful and thrilling, MFY connection aside.)

Fman99 Apr 27 2009 09:56 AM

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":39a95ne0]The Ellsbury straight steal was beautiful and thrilling, MFY connection aside.)[/quote:39a95ne0] Brought back memories of Cedeno doing it against them in interleague play back in '02.

metirish Apr 27 2009 10:00 AM

Ellsbury's steal of home was as exciting a play as I have seen in a long while...and to have him walking back to the dugout having a right old laugh with his team mates was great , then the crowd gives him a sustained ovation and he pops out for a curtain call. AP was pissed and later claimed that it was all his fault as Posada had warned him right before that pitch to be aware of the possibility. Not for nothing but they need a huge start from CC tonight , they bullpen is putrid , Phil fucking Coke , the dead weight that gave up the bomb to Lowell ...

Frayed Knot May 05 2009 07:16 AM

NYDN: Yanx tell fans game was called off -- then won't let them back in when it starts. And that's after making them wait more than 2h-20m in the rain because the team didn't want back-to-back off days.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 05 2009 07:19 AM

Riassman's column about how security kicked Paul O'Niell off the field of play and spanish-speaking Angels broadcasters out of the booth was even more damning. I don't have that much sympathy for fans who bail on a game, and rely on the word of an usher before an announcement is made. Serves them right.

batmagadanleadoff May 05 2009 07:36 AM

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Riassman's column about how security kicked Paul O'Niell off the field of play and spanish-speaking Angels broadcasters out of the booth was even more damning.

Some fan's funny response:

BillBing May 5, 2009 7:45:01 AM Report Offensive Post Forgive me if I don't feel badly for Paul and Nevalee O'Neill or those poor, mistreated media outlets. Paulie was paid quite handsomely to "bleed" for the Yankees. But, he is no longer a player, or a coach. His access shold [sic] be limited. And, his wife shold [sic] not be allowed in the current players' wifes [sic] section. What's next? David Wells gourging [sic] himself at the players' buffet?

seawolf17 May 05 2009 07:36 AM

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":30tv7aio]I don't have that much sympathy for fans who bail on a game, and rely on the word of an usher before an announcement is made. Serves them right.[/quote:30tv7aio] Agreed. I'm not saying there weren't Yankees employees who might have misled people, but still, it's on you to find out the real story before bailing. Your ticket says no re-entry; them's the rules.

soupcan May 05 2009 07:50 AM

Doesn't it seem like the Yankees always have some kind of issue with rain-delayed / late start games every year? There's always some contoversy with them and then probably later today they'll come out and make an announcement that all tickets for last night's game can be exchanged, blah...blah...blah. I'd be pissed if I had a tcket to that game last night. I think it's bullshit that they started it at almost 9:30 on a cold, rainy Monday night. What time did the game end - 1:00?

Frayed Knot May 05 2009 07:57 AM

Y'know if it were only a handful of people I'd be quicker to say they were dorks for listening to some usher who said something he shouldn't have and no big deal. But when "hundreds" leave on the advice of guys wearing stadium uniforms with "how can I help you?" buttons you start to think it's an organizational screw-up somewhere and less a case of gullibility. Over the years the Yanx have usually been pretty good at providing future tickets to fans who missed, or even sat through, a game that was severely delayed or hampered by rain. But that was under the old regime and in the old stadium. Be interesting to see how the Tross/Levine mafia plays this one, particularly in the face of all the bad publicity they've taken lately.

Fman99 May 05 2009 07:57 AM

[quote="Frayed Knot"]NYDN: Yanx tell fans game was called off -- then won't let them back in when it starts. And that's after making them wait more than 2h-20m in the rain because the team didn't want back-to-back off days.

Finally the Snooz delivers a story I can enjoy.

Serves em right, the idjets.

Frayed Knot May 05 2009 08:04 AM

[quote="soupcan"]I'd be pissed if I had a tcket to that game last night. I think it's bullshit that they started it at almost 9:30 on a cold, rainy Monday night. What time did the game end - 1:00?

They say the official rain delay was 2:17 and the time of the game clocked in at a typical MFY/Sawx-ian 3:48

So that's 7:10 + 2:17 meaning first pitch at 9:27
adding your 3:48 on to that means that John Sterling's 'THaaaaaaaaa Sox Win!!' call came just shy of 9 hours ago at 1:15

Of course that's only for the 47 people left in the stands.
35 of them Sox fans.

Centerfield May 05 2009 10:05 AM

In keeping with the theme of this thread, Mama Chamberlain, drug dealer: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... wD97VUGC00

duan May 05 2009 10:39 AM

no matter whom they or their family play for I feel nothing but sorry for someone who gets entangled in that kind of thing. She's obviously dealing to feed a habit and the last thing she needs is to be picked up by the wire services. Joba's quote is refreshingly nice.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 05 2009 12:01 PM

[quote="Fman99"][quote="Frayed Knot"]NYDN: Yanx tell fans game was called off -- then won't let them back in when it starts. And that's after making them wait more than 2h-20m in the rain because the team didn't want back-to-back off days.

Finally the Snooz delivers a story I can enjoy.

Serves em right, the idjets.


My favorite part (narrowly beating out "I traveled to take my son on his birthday" lady and the "we built this" union guy)?

Stadium security also threatened to revoke the credential of Daily News photographer Robert Sabo, who was shooting the scene outside Gate 6 - a location photographers weren't prohibited from working at on Opening Day.

"They were super-embarrassed and told me to go back to my position on the field or they'd take my credential," Sabo said.

This trumps the Citifield negative-sign-removal stuff, doesn't it? I mean, we joke about the Vertical Swastika and pinstriped fascism all the time... thanks, MFY employees, for living up to the humor!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 05 2009 12:05 PM

And yes, I think the Joba quote is nice, too. Was he drunk?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 05 2009 12:32 PM

Yes, the MFYs are becoming more and more of a national joke every day. Posada btw, hurt his hammy last night and could be gone for another long while. We really ought to thank Omar for bidding up his price and years.

metirish May 05 2009 12:55 PM

The Daily news is tracking the home runs in the Bronx through ten games - Coors Field 1999 - 35 home runs through ten games - MFY 2009 - 36 home runs Coors field yielded 303 home runs in 1999 , a number YS3 could exceed.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 05 2009 12:59 PM

[quote="metirish"]The Daily news is tracking the home runs in the Bronx through ten games - Coors Field 1999 - 35 home runs through ten games - MFY 2009 - 36 home runs Coors field yielded 303 home runs in 1999 , a number YS3 could exceed.

Is the CPF book taking bets on when Luis Castillo's first home run will come?

If so, 500 El Sids on June 12.

Gwreck May 05 2009 04:03 PM

My recollection is that Luis' homers all come from pulling the ball as a right handed batter, and the MFYS home run problem is to right field.

Frayed Knot May 05 2009 05:03 PM

Posada to the 15-day DL

Ashie62 May 05 2009 05:21 PM

[quote="soupcan":pv8fud78]Doesn't it seem like the Yankees always have some kind of issue with rain-delayed / late start games every year? There's always some contoversy with them and then probably later today they'll come out and make an announcement that all tickets for last night's game can be exchanged, blah...blah...blah. I'd be pissed if I had a tcket to that game last night. I think it's bullshit that they started it at almost 9:30 on a cold, rainy Monday night. What time did the game end - 1:00?[/quote:pv8fud78] YES! The famous rainouts when it doesn't rain..the dramatic rain delays leaving fans soaked and pissed

Rockin' Doc May 05 2009 06:14 PM

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":2xhxlgt4]And yes, I think the Joba quote is nice, too. Was he drunk?[/quote:2xhxlgt4] Nah, just high on meth.

smg58 May 06 2009 12:25 PM

[quote="Frayed Knot":3mx1c5c5]Posada to the 15-day DL[/quote:3mx1c5c5] How about Ramon Castro for Ian Kennedy?

metirish May 06 2009 12:32 PM

[quote="smg58":3gvh7izm][quote="Frayed Knot":3gvh7izm]Posada to the 15-day DL[/quote:3gvh7izm] How about Ramon Castro for Ian Kennedy?[/quote:3gvh7izm] They'd need to give us a throw in like Phil Hughes with Kennedy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 06 2009 12:37 PM

How about Schneid for Hughes.

seawolf17 May 06 2009 02:24 PM

Don't both of those belong in the APWATP thread? George ain't running the Yankees any more.

Edgy DC May 06 2009 11:06 PM

IN the cabride to the airport, the two morning doofuses on the radio spent most of the trip beating on the Yankees. I thought they were just being their zany selves when they came with "and your star pitcher has a meth-dealing mom!"

Frayed Knot May 07 2009 08:25 PM

Q: So what's better than a four-game NYM winning streak? A: A four-game NYM winning streak that's followed by flipping the channel in time to see Rivera serve up back-to-back jacks to the Rays in the 9th of a (formerly) tied game

metirish May 07 2009 08:30 PM

[quote="Frayed Knot":3rax7cuv]Q: So what's better than a four-game NYM winning streak? A: A four-game NYM winning streak that's followed by flipping the channel in time to see Rivera serve up back-to-back jacks to the Rays in the 9th of a (formerly) tied game[/quote:3rax7cuv] WOW , I had just checked a few minutes ago , tied game then....oh I like this. Girardi might not last the month.

Fman99 May 07 2009 08:30 PM

And he didn't finish the inning and the MFY fans booed him off the mound. Ha! That pen is so 2008-Met-ish.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 07 2009 08:32 PM

Oh, that is good. If the Rays hang on here that'll be five straight in the L column for the MFYs. Girardi will be fired between the first and 2nd Subway serieses, if he lasts that long. Kay sounds like he slitting his wrists here.

metirish May 07 2009 08:33 PM

Yeah what's up with Kay , sounds like he was crying between innings or something.

metirish May 07 2009 08:37 PM

Swisher down looking to end the game....... " Oh what a night"

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 07 2009 08:39 PM

F Kay. Today he remarked that had the Mets signed Manny and this stuff came out, "That would be just like the Mets," forgetting that the team he teabags for every night employed Gay-rod, Giambi, Sheffield, Pettitte and Clemens all while embarrassing steroid allegations went public.

Edgy DC May 07 2009 09:06 PM

I never hope for Yankee firings because I'm always certain the next one is going to be Davey Johnson. They really booed Rivera?

Rockin' Doc May 07 2009 11:14 PM

They were just testing him.

metsguyinmichigan May 07 2009 11:35 PM

[quote="Rockin' Doc":1i4s49ha]They were just testing him.[/quote:1i4s49ha] Bad ass!!!!!

metirish May 08 2009 06:38 AM

[quote="Edgy DC"]I never hope for Yankee firings because I'm always certain the next one is going to be Davey Johnson. They really booed Rivera?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 08 2009 07:13 AM

How did that MFYLDB afford that $2,500 seat? Tiexiera was booed too as he left a hunderd guys on base and his BA fell onto the Interstate again. Plus backup C Molina looks headed to the DL along with Posada.

Edgy DC May 08 2009 07:21 AM

OK, who photoshopped young Brian Wilson into the photo?

metirish May 08 2009 07:24 AM

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":jwv7ei7e]How did that MFYLDB afford that $2,500 seat? [/quote:jwv7ei7e] Funny I was thinking the same thing and was just a click away from posting that picture in the YLDB thread. I still think it should go there , for prosperities sake.

G-Fafif May 08 2009 07:26 AM

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":19s2o6th]F Kay. Today he remarked that had the Mets signed Manny and this stuff came out, "That would be just like the Mets."[/quote:19s2o6th] So, Michael Kay is reduced to taking shots at the Mets for not coming close to doing the wrong thing? Good night funnyman.

Frayed Knot May 08 2009 07:29 AM

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":8d1tcg8f]How did that MFYLDB afford that $2,500 seat?[/quote:8d1tcg8f] He bought it on Stub-Hub for $25.95

Nymr83 May 08 2009 07:32 AM

Plus backup C Molina looks headed to the DL along with Posada. Santos for Hughes or Kennedy. lets do it.

HahnSolo May 08 2009 07:38 AM

I think the only happy MFY these days has to be Johnny Damon. 7 HRs (6 in their new place) already. He'll probably hit 40 this year and earn himself a big $ contract from some team that doesn't know better.

HahnSolo May 08 2009 07:39 AM

[quote="metirish"][quote="Edgy DC"]I never hope for Yankee firings because I'm always certain the next one is going to be Davey Johnson. They really booed Rivera?

Max Kellerman really needs to find himself a job.

Frayed Knot May 09 2009 05:34 AM

Aneurysm surgery (in the arm) for Ian Kennedy (so we can put away all those Schneider/Castro/Santos to the NYY trade ideas)

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 10 2009 01:01 PM

Be sure to watch the highlights of Aubrey Huff's 3-run homa off Jobba today. He does a completely obvious mock-fist-pump-taunt not once but twice. Awesome!

Swan Swan H May 10 2009 01:07 PM

About time somebody showed up Joba the pig-faced boy. Kay and Singleton were practically demanding retaliation when Huff came up next time, which is a laugh but typical holier-than-thou Yankee garbage.

Edgy DC May 10 2009 01:45 PM

One thing I loved about the Rays last year --- and even earlier --- is that they're young and nutty enough to hold the whole Yankee mystique in active contempt. They seem determined to reclaim their own city --- like the kids in a summer resort town standing up to the rich city kids who act like they own the place and the parents who the resort employs.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 10 2009 01:52 PM

Course, Huff hit his HR representing the Orioles. Wiggy took a bullet in the shoulder later, but not sure whether that was retaliation.

Edgy DC May 10 2009 02:09 PM

Yeah, but he was there at the start of the Tampa awakening --- long part of the abused townie culture.

Frayed Knot May 10 2009 02:16 PM

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Be sure to watch the highlights of Aubrey Huff's 3-run homa off Jobba today. He does a completely obvious mock-fist-pump-taunt not once but twice. Awesome!

Looked like he shot a glance back Joba's way while doing it.
Even Francesa scolded 'The Hut' for doing the fist-pump act after each strike-out while down by 6 runs last week.

Yeah, but he was there at the start of the Tampa awakening --- long part of the abused townie culture.

Wonder if Joba whined to the umps; "Cutters started it!"

Met Hunter May 10 2009 08:39 PM

[quote="Edgy DC":ak0wcy81]One thing I loved about the Rays last year --- and even earlier --- is that they're young and nutty enough to hold the whole Yankee mystique in active contempt. They seem determined to reclaim their own city --- like the kids in a summer resort town standing up to the rich city kids who act like they own the place and the parents who the resort employs.[/quote:ak0wcy81] Yeah. I loved it when Jonny Gomes went apeshit last season after Duncan stuck his Frankenstein size 16 into Iwamura. I hadn't seen MFYs scream for vengence like that since Pedro tossed that decrepit old bench coach aside. Those MFYers are funny when they feel wronged.

Frayed Knot May 10 2009 08:51 PM

I think, for the most part, the Yanx simply weren't used to the likes of the Rays actually competing against them. They just expected them to roll over and die like usual. It was almost as funny hearing Kay and his crew sounding like they were lowering themselves when they had to start paying attention to Rays games on the out of town scoreboard. For years it was just them and the Sox and they seemed put out by the fact that someone else had crashed the party. This year it's those fucking Jays who somehow slipped by the bouncers and got into the V.I.P. lounge where they don't belong. Anarchy, Anarchy!!

Farmer Ted May 14 2009 03:44 PM

Jim Leyritz apparently on suicide watch.

Elster88 May 15 2009 11:56 PM

Girardi and Gardenhire get into a shouting match on the field today. Hughes career: 6-9 with a 5.48. And yet I'm grateful they refused to trade him and Kennedy for Santana.

Nymr83 May 18 2009 08:31 AM

Mushnick has a piece that stabs at the unlistenable Yankees' radio broadcasts this morning.

soupcan May 18 2009 08:33 AM

The whole Yankee broadcast team - Sterling, Waldman, Kay, O'Neill, etc. are just one of the many reasons I'm glad I'm not a Yankee fan.

metirish May 18 2009 08:35 AM

[quote="Nymr83":pj5yc49f]Mushnick has a piece that stabs at the unlistenable Yankees' radio broadcasts this morning.[/quote:pj5yc49f] Kay isn't much better, I had that game on yesterday for a few innings and every ball off the bat from a MFY had Kay going into his home run call before it would die in the outfield. O'Neill is useless as is Cone .

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 11:54 AM

[quote="metirish"][quote="Nymr83"]Mushnick has a piece that stabs at the unlistenable Yankees' radio broadcasts this morning.

Kay isn't much better, I had that game on yesterday for a few innings and every ball off the bat from a MFY had Kay going into his home run call before it would die in the outfield.

O'Neill is useless as is Cone .

Can't speak to Paulie RedFace-- I've never caught him in the few MFY games I've seen of late-- but I think Cone/Leiter (both of whom I've caught spouting interesting stuff in other arenas) have opinions and smarts to burn, and considerable promise. Of course, that promise will likely go unrealized as long as they're working for Goebbels, Inc.; it's tough for an inexperienced color man to develop his skills under the dual pressures of a large audience and no-sayum-bad-thingsum management.

metirish May 21 2009 05:08 PM

71 home runs so far in 19 home games...at least I think I heard right there on that....saw the three hit last night back to back to back....all went to the same spot there in RF...unreal

PiggiesTomatoes May 21 2009 07:51 PM

What's funny is that it's not jusr right field. Through last evening, 22 home runs to left versus 11 through the same number of games last year. That stadium is a joke. Something will have to be done. You can't move the fences back; do you raise the walls?

MFS62 May 21 2009 10:12 PM

A guy called in to WFAN tonight and said that if Notre Dame gets that football game against Army at the new place, a field goal kicker may break the NCAA distance record if they're kicking toward right field. BTW- tonight's Yankee game is over. The 74 HR in the first 20 games sets the all-time ML record for a new ball park. This ain't your daddy's Coors Field. Later

Nymr83 May 22 2009 06:31 AM

[quote="PiggiesTomatoes":xnvxwb37]What's funny is that it's not jusr right field. Through last evening, 22 home runs to left versus 11 through the same number of games last year. That stadium is a joke. Something will have to be done. You can't move the fences back; do you raise the walls?[/quote:xnvxwb37] this is why i said in the other thread that the Mets got it right. build a big ballpark. its always easier to move fences in than out when things aren't going the way you want (not that i have any problem with the current dimensions) the yankees could raise the fences, they could also create more foul territory (which helps pitchers) by destroying the seats behind homeplate that nobody sits in anyway. (zing!)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 03 2009 12:40 PM

Oh, John Sterling cares about his job. He just cares very little. http://deadspin.com/5277333/john-sterli ... ees-lineup

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 03 2009 12:50 PM

O how I love John Sterling

Edgy DC Jun 03 2009 12:51 PM

Wow, clever uses of the term "A-Bomb." I imagine the Japanese love when the Americans are flip about that sort of thing.

Frayed Knot Jun 03 2009 12:53 PM

I heard this on the radio this morning. Sterling is just so fired up to go into his schtick that it's usually only coincidental if he also happens to call the game correctly

MFS62 Jun 03 2009 01:13 PM

The only good thing about hearing Sterling's voice is that Suzyn Waldmann usually isn't talking at the same time. Later

Nymr83 Jun 03 2009 01:16 PM

[quote="Edgy DC":1j1jx87y]Wow, clever uses of the term "A-Bomb." I imagine the Japanese love when the Americans are flip about that sort of thing.[/quote:1j1jx87y] how would that be any worse than the frequently used figure of speech "stepping on a land mine" with respect to people around the world who suffered from logn abandoned mine fields? i dont mind criticizing sterling for being stupid and not at all clever with his hom run calls, but lets be fair here, i dont find it the slightest bit offensive.

Fman99 Jun 03 2009 01:21 PM

The word "suck" called, it wishes to be disassociated permanently from John Sterling.

Nymr83 Jun 03 2009 01:25 PM

[quote="Fman99":3puuwuy8]The word "suck" called, it wishes to be disassociated permanently from John Sterling.[/quote:3puuwuy8] i suppose it is insulting to said word to use it alongside Sterling's name so often.

Edgy DC Jun 03 2009 01:38 PM

I'm not familiar with any regular usage of the landmine metaphor. I think I am being fair and I think such a usage is pretty shallow.

metirish Jun 03 2009 05:17 PM

Hughes pushed to the bullpen by Wang........ insert joke wherever

Farmer Ted Jun 16 2009 04:10 PM

From NYDN: Tuesday, June 16th 2009 FORT WORTH, Texas - Former major league outfielder Mel Hall is on trial on sexual assault charges, accused of repeated advances on a 12-year-old girl he coached on an elite basketball team a decade ago. Hall's accuser, now 23, took the stand Monday in a Fort Worth courtroom. She said Hall engaged in sex acts with her in various places, including her home and Hall's apartment. Defense attorneys for the 48-year-old Hall were to present their case Tuesday. Hall was arrested in 2007 by police in a Fort Worth suburb investigating allegations of sexual abuse. He faces up to life in prison on three counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child and two counts of indecency with a child. Hall's 13-year major league career ended in 1996. He played for the Chicago Cubs, Cleveland Indians, Yankees and San Francisco Giants. The woman testified that Hall first exposed himself to her and her younger brother at home, when their parents were away. The boy testified that he thought they were playing a game and never told his parents. Hall's interaction with the girl progressed to inappropriate touching and him instructing her how to perform oral sex, she testified. She said he also showed her pornographic movies at an apartment Hall shared with his girlfriend and their infant son. "I trusted him," the woman testified. "I honestly had no idea anything was inappropriate at the time. I looked up to him. I just thought this is how normal people act." The investigation also involved a 14-year-old girl who played on the team. Hall faces charges in that case. A trial is pending.

Edgy DC Jun 16 2009 06:16 PM

Oh, man.

Willets Point Jun 16 2009 06:22 PM

[quote="metirish":1x3hfmf1]Hughes pushed to the bullpen by Wang........ insert joke wherever[/quote:1x3hfmf1] FARK had the best headline: "Just as the Yankees get their Wang fixed, the Mets break their Putz"

Frayed Knot Jun 16 2009 07:41 PM

Mel Hall always was a jackass. Didn't know he was a pervert too.

Farmer Ted Jun 17 2009 02:37 PM

Mel Hall, convict. FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) -- Former major league outfielder Mel Hall was found guilty Tuesday of sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl he coached on an elite basketball team a decade ago. A Tarrant County jury took about 90 minutes to convict the 48-year-old Hall on three counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child and two counts of indecency with a child. The sentencing phase was to resume Wednesday after two witnesses testified Tuesday afternoon. Hall faces up to life in prison. Hall's accuser, now 23, testified Monday that Hall engaged in sex acts with her in various places, including her home and Hall's apartment. Hall was arrested in 2007 by police in a Fort Worth suburb investigating allegations of sexual abuse. His 13-year major league career ended in 1996, two years before Hall met the girl's family at a basketball tournament. The girl's father asked for baseball tips for his son, but Hall's friendship with the family grew through basketball, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported. Hall was impressed with the girl's talent and wanted to start a basketball team, according to testimony. Soon, he was giving the girl private lessons and stayed in the family home while he was apparently building a house in a nearby suburb. The woman testified that Hall first exposed himself to her and her younger brother at home, when their parents were away. The boy testified that he thought they were playing a game and never told his parents. Hall's interaction with the girl progressed to inappropriate touching and him showing her how to perform oral sex, she testified. She said he also showed her pornographic movies at an apartment Hall shared with his girlfriend and their infant son. "I trusted him," the woman testified. "I honestly had no idea anything was inappropriate at the time. I looked up to him. I just thought this is how normal people act." The investigation by North Richland Hills police also involved a 14-year-old girl who played on the team. Hall faces charges in that case. A trial is pending. Hall hit .276 with 134 home runs and 620 RBIs in a career that included stints with the Chicago Cubs, Cleveland Indians, New York Yankees and San Francisco Giants. He also played four years in Japan.

Centerfield Jun 18 2009 08:16 AM

The title of this thread was kind of a joke. As it's progressed, it become less and less so.

Edgy DC Jun 18 2009 11:57 AM

"The Nationals are so horrible that a Yankees loss to them is virtually inexcusable." --- Ken Davidoff Easy, Ken.

Edgy DC Jun 18 2009 11:59 AM

"How could the Bombers possibly get revved up Tuesday night for the lowly Nationals?" --- Mark Feinsand Easy, Mark.

Edgy DC Jun 18 2009 12:02 PM

"Hey, the Nats, who lead the majors in errors, went two innings without a miscue. What did you expect?" --- Mark Hale Easy, other guy named Mark.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 18 2009 12:07 PM

"Release Chien Ming Wang." -- Greig King, Bad Intentions and Blowhardiness in the Bronx ;)

Edgy DC Jun 18 2009 12:11 PM

"They don't write 'em like that anymore" --- Greg Kihn, Rockihnroll

DocTee Jul 02 2009 08:38 AM

Stay classy, Jimmy: [url]http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4301980

soupcan Jul 02 2009 10:39 AM

I'll put money on him being found dead before the year is out. He's either going to kill himself or accidentally on-purpose OD on something.

Edgy DC Jul 02 2009 10:51 AM

Yeah, I don't think it's a case of class at this point. He's in a Catch 22. The best thing he can do to save his life is not drink. The only way he can see to cope with the horror of what he's done is to drink. The world is filled with two types of people to him --- those who think he's a waste of protoplasm who should be spit on if acknowledged at all, and those he thinks see him that way. Maybe not. It's a hell of a burden to carry around is all I'm saying.

Gwreck Jul 07 2009 11:01 AM

Suit: Yankees force fans to sit for 'God Bless America' THE ASSOCIATED PRESS 2:21 PM EDT, April 15, 2009 A baseball fan says he was ejected from Yankee Stadium for leaving his seat to use the bathroom while "God Bless America" played. Bradford Campeau-Laurion filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday against New York City and the Yankees. The lawsuit contends he was made a victim of political and religious discrimination on Aug. 26. It says two police officers who ejected him were enforcing a Yankees policy that keeps spectators in their seats during the song. A spokeswoman says the city law office has no immediate comment. A Yankees representative did not immediately return a call This case settled: NYC paid out $10,000 to the plaintiff and $12,000 to the ACLU for plaintiff's attorney's fees. Yankees signed a stipulation and order indicating they have no policy and no intention of instituting a policy for God Bless America re: movement of fans in the stadium that does not apply during the rest of the game.

TransMonk Jul 16 2009 10:03 AM

Jeter building Tampa's biggest mansion Rising like an aircraft carrier under construction, the future home of New York Yankees baseball star Derek Jeter is taking shape on Davis Islands. Designed with a whopping 30,875 square feet of space, the seven-bedroom, nine-bathroom waterfront home dwarfs nearby mansions and could end up the largest home in Hillsborough County. - Tampa Tribune http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumo ... on?cnn=yes Hopefully, it's a hurricane magnet.

Farmer Ted Jul 16 2009 05:40 PM

A top New York Yankees prospect is not who he claims to be, sources tell SI.com. Two weeks ago, the Yankees signed a shortstop purporting to be 16-year-old Damian Arredondo from the Dominican Republic to an $850,000 bonus. Now Major League Baseball's Department of Investigations has determined that Arredondo is not the player's real name and that he is older than 16. The Yankees signed the player they thought was Arredondo on July 2, the first day that major league teams are permitted to sign international free agents as young as 16. The Yankees were impressed with the switch-hitter's strong arm and speed -- he reportedly ran a 60-yard-dash in 6.4 seconds. According to a new Major League Baseball rule, a player found to have used a fraudulent identity cannot sign with another club for one year. Major League Baseball has recently increased its efforts to deter identity fraud in Latin America by hiring new investigators and dispatching other investigators from its New York City office to oversee the process. In general, sources say that MLB will be working with authorities in the Dominican Republic to bring criminal charges against the orchestrators of fraud -- often the trainers and agents who stand to make large percentages of the prospects' signing bonuses. Mark Newman, the Yankees Senior Vice President of Baseball Operations, says that he has not received official notification of the outcome of the Arredondo investigation. The Yankees did not lose any money on the prospect because his bonus was contingent on the outcome of the investigation. Newman expressed gratitude that the investigative process was swift, allowing the team time to continue searching for prospects among the pool of free agents who have not yet been signed. Last week, the Yankees also signed Dominican catcher Gary Sanchez, for $3 million. According to his agent, Brian Mejia, Sanchez has already passed his investigation.

Edgy DC Jul 30 2009 08:47 AM By "Yankees," we mean "Diabolical Menace"

By "Yankees," we mean "Diabolical Menace" (Merged from By "Yankees," we mean "Diabolical Menace", 7/30/2009)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 17 2009 02:15 PM

Fun from the Onion with "MVP candidate" DouchebagCop the First Baseman: "Strong Side: Personality doesn't ever get in the way of baseball or anything else in his life."

MFS62 Aug 17 2009 05:12 PM

Had dinner last Sunday in Shelton, CT. which is the home of the Wiffle Ball. The factory is still there, right off Route. 8 at exit 13. Later

metirish Sep 01 2009 09:20 AM

Joe D beat the bejaysus out of Marilyn Monroe Joe works on his hit streak

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2009 09:32 AM

Re: Last night's game -- could you imagine the cacophony from talk-radio and other YLDBs if it were ARod to make the error which broke up Pettitte's perfect game w/2 outs in the 7th rather than temporary ARod replacement Jerry Hairston Jr.? Pettitte went on to lose his no-hitter on the next batter anyway and the shut-out the following inning but of course THOSE could have/would have been blamed on ARod as well for breaking AP's concentration and making him work out of the stretch, etc, things we know his SS would never do.

Edgy DC Sep 01 2009 09:40 AM

Now, it's instead, "What if A-Rod was out there?" with a healthy afterdose of "Hey? Why the hell wasn't he out there?!"

The Second Spitter Sep 16 2009 01:30 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

Jesse Carlson is my newest baseball hero.

duan Sep 16 2009 04:38 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

Jorge Posada's elbow was really, really pathetic. It wasn't sore or anything but it was the hallmark of a total wanker.

The Second Spitter Sep 16 2009 05:16 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

I hope they remember it into next season. It may actually serve to motivate them to keep up with them in the standings.

Edgy DC Sep 16 2009 07:29 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

Shelley Duncan unjustifiably in the middle of things. How not shocking. Hey, Shelley, try hockey.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 16 2009 07:42 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

I listened to John & Suzyn calling it on the radio, quite hilarious. They said Derrell Cousins, the third base umpire, was injured in the fracas. Anyone see how? edit -- ...struck on the knee by a bottle full of soda that was thrown from the stands. [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/09/16/2009-09-16_derryl_cousins.html

Edgy DC Sep 16 2009 07:47 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

1) What huge douchebaggery. 2) It kind of puts the lie to the notion that Yankee ticket schemes have priced the louts outside of striking distance. 3) How do louts even get bottles inside the stadium?

Frayed Knot Sep 16 2009 07:51 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

Once the fight got going all it was was a mass of bodies (two piles eventually) but you could barely tell who was who. The only thing that stuck out was 150 lb MFY reliever Edwar (buy a 'D') Ramirez tying to pull Jays' catcher Rod Barajas out of the pile by the strap on the back of his chest protector and having 60 y/o Cito Gaston yank him away. That's not the first time Posada's done that 'oops I accidently brushed past you too hard' thing as the prelude to a scuffle.

HahnSolo Sep 16 2009 07:52 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

Edwar Ramirez--douche. Comes to the scrum late, then decides he'll be heroic by grabbing the opposing team's catcher--who is at the bottom of a pile--and start pulling him by his catching gear. And I didn't see Shelley Duncan, but like Edgy says, how unsurprising.

The Second Spitter Sep 16 2009 08:01 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

What I wanna know is whether Carslon did a Shawn Estes impersonation intentionally during Hip-Hip Jorge's at-bat ?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 16 2009 09:13 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

[quote="Triple Dee":1ilzqj89]What I wanna know is whether Carslon did a Shawn Estes impersonation intentionally during Hip-Hip Jorge's at-bat ?[/quote:1ilzqj89] Almost definitely. Edwin Encarnacion and Aaron Hill had been hit in the two innings prior, with the Blue Jays leading big. Even if neither was intentional-- Hill's shot in the upper back looked a little hinky-- that seemed to have been the perception on Toronto's part.

The Second Spitter Sep 16 2009 09:46 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

What I'm not sure about is whether he actually threw behind Posada intentionally or whether he was actually aiming at Posada and missed (à la Estes)? Sorry if I wasn't clear about that.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 16 2009 10:03 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

Carlson missed by a lot, although I think he probably meant to hit him. Either way Posada's a punk for mixing it up with a team 25 games out or whatever, and I hope the Jays throw at Jeter, Arod and Texiera tonight.

The Second Spitter Sep 16 2009 10:32 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

Yeah, I'm fairly sure they were throwing a Posada because they thought he called for the pitches that hit EE and Hill.

Frayed Knot Sep 16 2009 12:18 PM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

There was also the one a week or two back where - also during a Toronto blow-out - one of their guys got hit in the face by a NYY pitch. That one definitely wasn't intentional - the bases were loaded at the time and it was former Jay Josh Towers who did it - but last night's plunkings made it a three-peat so I don't blame the Jays for being mad. And maybe it's the proximity many of us have to MFY fans or maybe it's simply the amount of whining in the face of so much success, but, for a group of fans that constantly complain how they're forever on the short end of the HBP-ee to HBP-er ratio, they've certainly hit a lot of batters lately. Carlos Pena was lost for the season during the last NYY-TB series after and up-and-in pitch broke two of his fingers. And that doesn't even get into the ongoing Joba-Youkilis target practice saga.

Farmer Ted Sep 29 2009 02:03 PM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

Roider. HOUSTON (AP) -- Former major leaguer Chuck Knoblauch has been charged with assaulting his common-law wife. A judge set Knoblauch's bond at $10,000 after he appeared in court Tuesday. According to a criminal complaint, Knoblauch's wife told police he hit her in the face and then choked her at their Houston home on Friday. Knoblauch's attorney did not immediately return a telephone call Tuesday. The 41-year-old former infielder is a Houston native and a four-time All-Star who played for the New York Yankees, Minnesota Twins and Kansas City Royals from 1991-02. Knoblauch was one of more than 80 players who were accused of using performance-enhancing drugs in the 2007 Mitchell Report on baseball's steroids era. Knoblauch later acknowledged using performance enhancers.

MFS62 Sep 29 2009 05:10 PM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

If he'd tried to throw something at her, he never could have hit her. Later

metirish Sep 30 2009 08:41 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

Jeez , but AJ Burnett is some sort of dickhead.... he's done the pie in the face 15 times this season....it's like his thing and he intends to continue the " tradition in the playoffs , even if it's Jeter or Tex"....idiot.

Edgy DC Sep 30 2009 09:04 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

I love Yankee traditions, particularly the one of them coming up short so far this millenium.

Frayed Knot Sep 30 2009 10:25 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

[quote="metirish":1vvswo9x]Jeez , but AJ Burnett is some sort of dickhead.... he's done the pie in the face 15 times this season....it's like his thing and he intends to continue the " tradition in the playoffs , even if it's Jeter or Tex"....idiot.[/quote:1vvswo9x] This new-found fun side of the MFYs is getting the classic 20/20 hindsight as credit for their good season. Back when they were winning all the time in the late '90s, their "professionalism" was always cited as what set them apart. Now, Swisher's goofiness, Burnett's shaving-cream pies, and Melky & Cano's dugout dances are seen as major factors in a loose and winning team. Of course if they were losing these same things would be blamed as the cause of it all - but that's why it's classic hindsight. I even notice how they're no longer pretending their clubhouse is a tattoo-free zone. One would have thought that Giambi and Farnsworth had some kind of years-long rash on their arms the way they were always wrapped up. Suddenly though, Sabathia & Burnett are free to show the ink. Amazing how standards melt away in the face of desperation.

MFS62 Sep 30 2009 12:26 PM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

[quote="Frayed Knot":3t1oij8h] Now, Swisher's goofiness, Burnett's shaving-cream pies, and Melky & Cano's dugout dances are seen as major factors in a loose and winning team. Of course if they were losing these same things would be blamed as the cause of it all - but that's why it's classic hindsight. [/quote:3t1oij8h] I just love it when Yankee fans deride Reyes' dugout dances. (Oops, just pegged my sarcasm meter) Later

metirish Sep 30 2009 12:55 PM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

Swisher was a guy I would have liked before but since landing in the Bronx he seems like a total bollox...

Ashie62 Sep 30 2009 02:55 PM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

And today Chuck Knoblauch is picked up for assaulting his wife.. If he threw something at her she should be OK

MFS62 Sep 30 2009 05:04 PM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

[quote="Ashie62":290fnety]And today Chuck Knoblauch is picked up for assaulting his wife.. If he threw something at her she should be OK[/quote:290fnety] Check earlier in this thread. You're late to the dance. Later

Ashie62 Sep 30 2009 06:19 PM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

I am tardy

Frayed Knot Sep 30 2009 09:05 PM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

[quote="metirish"]Swisher was a guy I would have liked before but since landing in the Bronx he seems like a total bollox...

There's nothing wrong with Swisher (well he's a much worse fielder than I ever thought - but besides that ...).
It's just that, prior to his arrival here, he would have been exactly the kind of guy Yanqui world would claim wasn't classy enough, wasn't serious enough, wasn't [wait for it] professional enough to be on their team.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 02 2009 11:46 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

Yeah, that about figures. The question is, is Jeter astride his chestnut flank, or is he depicted as more of a supplicant chained-Heavy-Metal maiden down at Rodtaur's hooves? http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews ... d-20093010

metirish Nov 02 2009 12:19 PM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

No matter now....he is been declared a real yankee , it's all he ever wanted and now he's got it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 02 2009 12:24 PM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Yeah, that about figures. The question is, is Jeter astride his chestnut flank, or is he depicted as more of a supplicant chained-Heavy-Metal maiden down at Rodtaur's hooves? http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews ... d-20093010

Also, because sh*t moves like quicksilver with these here Internets, the Twitter parody:

http://twitter.com/IAmCentaur

Blanton hits me again and he'll have more than the umpires to worry about. The ASPCA will be all over him.

Why did I break up with Madonna? Nag, nag, nag.....

Girardi just sent CC back out there for the seventh, told him, "go get 'em, C, you're a horse." I said, "No dude, I'M a horse."

MFS62 Nov 02 2009 01:17 PM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

We've been saying for a while that he's a horse's ass. Y'mean to say that there's now graphic proof? Later

Fman99 Nov 03 2009 06:12 AM Re: Cheaters, Murderers, Perjurers, Mercenaries

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Yeah, that about figures. The question is, is Jeter astride his chestnut flank, or is he depicted as more of a supplicant chained-Heavy-Metal maiden down at Rodtaur's hooves? http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews ... d-20093010

Also, because sh*t moves like quicksilver with these here Internets, the Twitter parody:

http://twitter.com/IAmCentaur

Blanton hits me again and he'll have more than the umpires to worry about. The ASPCA will be all over him.

Why did I break up with Madonna? Nag, nag, nag.....

Girardi just sent CC back out there for the seventh, told him, "go get 'em, C, you're a horse." I said, "No dude, I'M a horse."

So great.