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Isn't Puerto Rico part of USA? IGT

Kong76 Mar 14 2009 06:07 PM

Davey drinking champagne at a wedding, Larkin is managing.

Edgy DC Mar 14 2009 06:16 PM

Yeah, how about Holland getting to keep their Caribbean islands and we don't?

Kong76 Mar 14 2009 06:22 PM

Rootin' for PR anyways, Jeter's on USA.

Kong76 Mar 14 2009 06:33 PM

Catering must have been bad, Davey in the dugout in the 2nd inning.

Edgy DC Mar 14 2009 06:38 PM

Mark DeRosa not diving for a grounder up the middle would make me get my ass to the park also.

Edgy DC Mar 14 2009 06:40 PM

I'd like to come out against acquiring Jake Peavy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 14 2009 06:56 PM

6 runs in 2, stock lowered-- Now's when you buy, Edge. I worry that Javy Vazquez may end up having been a bigger add than any other in the division this winter.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 14 2009 07:41 PM

So... PUDGE is hitting against non-Nederlanders, right, so...

metirish Mar 14 2009 08:25 PM

A mercy rule beat down for Team USA......

Edgy DC Mar 14 2009 08:27 PM

Yeah, wow, a two-run single by the legendary Mike Aviles finishes the beatdown.

Nymr83 Mar 14 2009 08:34 PM

wow.

Fman99 Mar 14 2009 09:07 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Yeah, how about Holland getting to keep their Caribbean islands and we don't? We got the Virgin Islands (well, some of them). What's better than that? Whore Island.

bmfc1 Mar 14 2009 09:23 PM

Now that Manny Ramirez has signed a contract, Jon Heyman can stop being a pipeline for stories that help Scott Boras' client and return to being a prick. Tonight, he goes after Davey Johnson for skipping Friday's Team USA practice and almost missing tonight's game for his stepson's wedding: "U.S. manager Davey Johnson rushed back from his stepson's wedding across the state in St. Petersburg in time to catch Peavy's act, and the rest of his lame team's performance. It was Johnson who urged the group several days ago to commit fully to the team, and not treat it like an exhibition. You have to wonder whether any of that message was lost in translation when John[son] missed Friday's practice presumably for the rehearsal dinner, and was slated to be replaced on Saturday by coach Barry Larkin, the former great Reds player. Johnson was said to have "hustled'' back to the WBC, but his surprising early appearance didn't exactly inspire anyone." http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/03/14/usa.routed.by.puerto.rico/index.html

OlerudOwned Mar 14 2009 10:18 PM

It was only his stepson's wedding? Bastard!

Edgy DC Mar 14 2009 10:59 PM

I don't know. Heyman's a jerkweed and all (Armando), but that seems to me a legit criticism. I wuv Davey and such, but he's known where he's needed to be for months.

Frayed Knot Mar 15 2009 06:20 AM

And Team USA knew months ago where he Davey would be on this date so his absence was neither a surprise nor a recent decision, something Heyman's piece doesn't exactly make clear. I also somehow doubt his uninterrupted presence would have woke up the bats or kept Peavy from sucking. After all, even Jeter's presence couldn't.

bmfc1 Mar 15 2009 07:08 AM

Nicely put FK: wouldn't the mere aura of Derek Jeter, and all that Jeter-ness, have overcome any void left by the absence of a manager that the players barely know?

Nymr83 Mar 15 2009 08:20 AM

jeter's lack of leadership and clutchness (where was he to hit a 10-run homer when we needed it?) is appalling. He may be a true yankee but he is clearly not a true patriot.

metirish Mar 15 2009 09:12 AM

Just a bad job all around here I think.

metsguyinmichigan Mar 16 2009 08:07 AM

Verducci's got himself all worked into a lather. His final point... 5. By the way, to follow up on that 11-1 debacle to Puerto Rico, the last time Team USA suffered the embarrassment of losing via the mercy rule occurred in 1999 at the Intercontinental Cup in Sydney, Australia. It was the first USA Baseball team using professional players, though they were nothing like the star-studded cast that flopped against Puerto Rico. Most were independent ball players. The pitchers were Kevin Pincavich, Scott Conner and Aaron Jersild. Chad Thornill, not Derek Jeter, was the starting shortstop. In other words, you would be safe to assume that the 11-1 defeat Saturday to Puerto Rico was the most embarrassing loss in USA Baseball history. Not that the loss was good on any level, but I'm going to guess that the 1999 opponent did not include a certain Hall of Famer (Pudge) and a handful of guys who will be in the conversation (Beltran, Delgado, Williams) and a number of All-Stars.

bmfc1 Mar 17 2009 08:36 AM

D-Wright gets knocked in the head, Ollie throws 85 pitches and F-Rod gets 4 out saves twice in three days. (Other teams, esp. Florida, have their own WBC-related problems.) I'm so sick of this tournament and want our guys "home." I want the USA to win tonight because Puerto Rico has five Mets and the USA has just two (Wright, Putz) so a USA win brings Carlos Beltran, Carlos Delgado, Alex Cora, Pedro Feliciano and Nelson Figueroa back to the (comparative) safety of Mets camp.

Edgy DC Mar 17 2009 08:38 AM

I'm going to go ahead and doubt that there is much if any relative safety at the Mets camp.

soupcan Mar 17 2009 08:43 AM

I dunno. I think its good that Beltran and Delgado are in regular season mode and hitting lights out and Ollie apparently needs the work. Putz has only been used for 2 innings and are two 4 out saves for Rodriguez that worrysome? Wouldn't these guys be dialing it up about now anyway? As Edgy says they can get hurt just as easily in Port St. Boring then they can in the WBC.

metirish Mar 17 2009 08:45 AM

I've enjoyed watching Francisco Rodriguez doing his thing, I'm all pumped up myself. Tom Martin couldn't have been further away form the WBC and he fell down a stairs, things happen.

bmfc1 Mar 17 2009 08:50 AM

I read today that the Mets are upset about Ollie because there was no way that he would have thrown 85 pitches at this point of the ST season. There is also no way that F-Rod would be used for 4 outs (esp. twice in a row). Sure, crap happens (e.g. Tom Martin), but the WBC takes players away from the norms of ST and puts them in a highly-competitive situation when they are not physically ready. Hold the darn thing in November and I'll be yelling "USA! USA!", but for now, I want our guys home.

Edgy DC Mar 17 2009 08:50 AM

Ryan Church got his first concussion last year in spring training. Mookie Wilson nearly lost an eye in a rundown drill. Moises Alou may have ended his career in an A-level rehab game. Junior Spivey broke his wrist hitting off a tee. It's a contact sport played with really hard balls. You like to think veterans know how to dial it down to protect themselves in spring training, but I'm not sure it works that way, and playing in second gear while you're surrounded by rookies playing in fourth may get you hurt also.

Edgy DC Mar 17 2009 08:51 AM

I agree that I'd prefer to see it in November, for the sake of the tournament as much as for the players absent from spring training.

bmfc1 Mar 17 2009 08:51 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 17 2009 08:57 AM

From Buster Olney, today: 1. Matt Lindstrom has a strained rotator cuff, as Clark Spencer writes. This is already being viewed by some talent evaluators as a classic WBC injury, because Lindstrom was pitching at a heightened intensity level for which his body may not have been prepared, in mid-March. Whether or not that's fair criticism is another question, entirely. It is bad news for the Marlins no matter how you slice it, says the Florida GM. Chipper Jones has some harsh words about the WBC, as David O'Brien writes. Bud Selig says the WBC is globalizing the sport, as Sean McAdam writes. The Mets are unhappy with how a couple of their pitchers have been handled in the WBC. Injuries happen in the WBC and everybody should just get used to that, writes Ken Davidoff. ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2009/03/16/braves_chipper_jones.html

bmfc1 Mar 17 2009 08:53 AM

Edgy, your points are valid. Even the quotes from Olney should that there are writers who support the WBC. My opinion is that it's better for the Mets, as a whole, if their players are wearing blue & orange, rather than other colors.

Edgy DC Mar 17 2009 08:56 AM

Matt Lindstrom was given his torn rotator cuff as kharma for being a meathead thug.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 17 2009 08:56 AM

Lindstrom is a Ugly American pussy who deserved his rotator cuff injury for throwing at a Dutch minor leaguer in an exhibition tournament.

Gwreck Mar 17 2009 09:15 AM

Mexico got knocked out by Cuba last night, so Oliver Perez, please get yourself on the next flight back to Port St. Lucie immediately.

soupcan Mar 17 2009 09:28 AM

Gwreck wrote: Mexico got knocked out by Cuba last night, so Oliver Perez, please get yourself on the next flight back to Port St. Lucie immediately. Mexcellent. ="Edgy DC"]It's a contact sport played with really hard balls. That's what she said. (sorry, I'll stop now)

holychicken Mar 17 2009 09:59 AM

Players who are playing the WBC should probably start their spring training a bit early if everyone is so paranoid about them getting injured. The fans and many of the players seem to be pumped for this thing so I believe it is here to stay. Soccer deals with it when it comes to the World Cup, which is the most popular sporting event in the world (IIRC), so I believe that the fans of the local teams are going to have to suck it up and face the fact that the WBC is not going anywhere in the foreseeable future. So instead of fighting to have them not play, start fighting for them to prepare for the tourney.

Edgy DC Mar 17 2009 10:21 AM

holychicken wrote: Players who are playing the WBC should probably start their spring training a bit early if everyone is so paranoid about them getting injured. Most of them do. Anybody else on Matt Lindstrom?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 17 2009 10:38 AM

Edgy DC wrote: ="holychicken"]Players who are playing the WBC should probably start their spring training a bit early if everyone is so paranoid about them getting injured. Most of them do. Anybody else on Matt Lindstrom? Um... I wish we still had this jerk?

metirish Mar 17 2009 08:23 PM

Please stop in the booth with the excuses about the USA roster....

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 17 2009 09:03 PM

Daybidrye!

Edgy DC Mar 17 2009 09:05 PM

Holy crap! I mean, I thought I'd seen Jeter do everything, but the way he willed that out of Wright. I mean, it's like he wouldn't have accepted less.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 17 2009 09:06 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 17 2009 09:08 PM

Okay, all WBC bellyaching aside, that was a ballgame y media. Now give us our Carloses back.

metirish Mar 17 2009 09:06 PM

That was exciting....I mean I didn't really care about this tourney but that game was worth watching.....

Edgy DC Mar 17 2009 09:07 PM

And Gary Thorne is doing the Japan-Korea game. It's the Classic that keeps giving.

metirish Mar 17 2009 09:08 PM

Didn't I just hear Gary do a hockey game on Versus?

holychicken Mar 17 2009 09:13 PM

Woot! Wright gets the walk off hit. Great ending to a good game. We get a bunch of players back (for you WBC haters), US advances and Wright comes up big. Of course, tomorrow's story won't include Jeter's misplay in the 9th and the fact that he was the only US player to make an out in the 9th.

Number 6 Mar 17 2009 09:14 PM

Awesome game, with especially incredible at-bats in the 9th by Victorino and Roberts. It's a shame that so few people were there to see it. If you watch the celebration closely, Kevin Youkilis tries to run with David Wright's head like it's a football, and ends up with only his helmet. It's easy to see why Youk is so popular.

Gwreck Mar 17 2009 11:04 PM

My only thought was "don't hurt him!" Thank you, David...now: Carlos Carlos Pedro Alex Nelson get back to Port St. Lucie NOW!!! --- If Redding starts the year on the DL, perhaps Figueroa has an outside chance at making the roster. 7.1 IP, 0 R, 2 H, 6 K, 3 BB. Not too shabby.

Gwreck Mar 17 2009 11:08 PM

Also notable in today's game: Beltran robs a home run from McCann that was going over the CF wall. MLB Network announcers go on about what a great catch it was (and it was) but proceed to talk about how it'd go on the all-WBC highlight reel. I think to myself -- I'm not sure that even goes on the all-Beltran highlight reel.

duan Mar 18 2009 04:52 AM

about the crowds - why in the name of jesus were they playing the games in Miami which has proven that it doesn't get excited about baseball.

Edgy DC Mar 18 2009 05:39 AM

It's one of life's mysteries. Here's another: Lady Caca? You might as well bill yourself as Madame Poopshit.

themetfairy Mar 18 2009 05:50 AM

It's Lady Gaga, old man.

Gwreck Mar 18 2009 05:55 AM

duan wrote: about the crowds - why in the name of jesus were they playing the games in Miami which has proven that it doesn't get excited about baseball. Excited about the Marlins, you mean. Did you see the crowd for the Puerto Rico-Venezuela game? They were fantastic.

Edgy DC Mar 18 2009 06:08 AM

themetfairy wrote: It's Lady Gaga, old man. Well, shut my mouth.

Edgy DC Mar 18 2009 06:13 AM

That ninth inning rally featured five guys reaching and only one guy making an out. Guess.

metirish Mar 18 2009 06:36 AM

Jeter made the out......as hard as that is to believe...IIRC he fluffed it with the bases juiced earlier in the game.

metirish Mar 18 2009 06:40 AM

Brian Roberts said it all right here.... ] "I heard David Wright's face was in the dirt and every Met fan in the world was panicking."

Edgy DC Mar 18 2009 07:09 AM

You can still see where it's tender on the side of his face. It seemed more raw during the celebration. Meanwhile, Potsie is a little overboard with with the post-game arm-care. Who is he --- Hellboy?

metirish Mar 18 2009 07:12 AM

Great pictures , if that guy didn't have an arm injury surely he wold after lugging that thing around.

Fman99 Mar 18 2009 08:47 AM

I watched the highlights on ESPN this morning... I watched the first two innings last night but then got distracted by chores, parenting, etc. So, my reaction is -- yay. They won. Whoopity. Funny to see them piling up in front of, what, 11k fans? I like the fact that Putz (IP, 0 ER, 2K), Wright (game winning hit), Beltran (catch) and Delgado (dinger) all seem to have acquitted themselves well -- but that's a Mets fan talking. So who do we have left that's playing? K-Rod, Wright, Putz? Is that it now?

A Boy Named Seo Mar 18 2009 08:53 AM

Fman, why do you hate America so?

seawolf17 Mar 18 2009 09:19 AM

Edgy DC wrote: That ninth inning rally featured five guys reaching and only one guy making an out. Guess. That's because he's a LEADER, Edge. Leaders make the players around them better. He could have gotten the game winning hit, but he's not a selfish player. He knew that making an out there would give someone else the opportunity to win that game. Come on, man. Respect.

Fman99 Mar 18 2009 09:21 AM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Fman, why do you hate America so? OK, you root for Jeter and Rollins, Seo J. Rogers. I'm going to, uh, you know, uh, not. :P

Benjamin Grimm Mar 18 2009 09:57 AM

I think, as citizens of the United States of America, we don't need a victory in a baseball tournament to give us pride. I can understand a smaller country getting a thrill out of knocking off baseball powerhouses like the USA or Japan. Me, I don't find myself having any rooting interest in the US for the WBC or the Olympics. Oh, and the reason FMan hates America: Because he hates freedom! Isn't that why everyone hates America?

Centerfield Mar 18 2009 10:04 AM

The highlights I saw this morning included Jeter failing to reach a ground ball in the 9th that made it a 2 run lead in the first place.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 18 2009 10:10 AM

America: Fuck Yeah!

MFS62 Mar 18 2009 10:36 AM

Here's a story about the WBC, a soldier, and a Mets fan. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-perezteamusa031809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns Later

holychicken Mar 18 2009 01:54 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I think, as citizens of the United States of America, we don't need a victory in a baseball tournament to give us pride. I can understand a smaller country getting a thrill out of knocking off baseball powerhouses like the USA or Japan. Me, I don't find myself having any rooting interest in the US for the WBC or the Olympics. I don't need the Mets to win either to give me pride. That doesn't mean I don't want them to win. And we aren't powerhouses unless we win. . .which we didn't do last time. It is a sporting event and, like all sporting events, it is entertainment. Being a United Statesian, I feel obligated to root for them. When it comes to entertainment value, the WBC >>>> Spring Training. That's for damn sure. Has anyone ever rushed the field after a game winning hit in a spring training game?

Benjamin Grimm Mar 18 2009 03:18 PM

holychicken wrote: Being a United Statesian, I feel obligated to root for them. I don't.