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="Edgy DC":3vai72du]I voted hate. It's really more dislike. He's cheap enough for the Mets to control the situation, and they sent nobody off for him.[/quote:3vai72du]
Your explanation almost sounded like a like.
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themetfairy
Apr 04 2009 03:43 PM
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I voted not like. Although I teetered between that and indifferent.
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metsmarathon
Apr 04 2009 04:01 PM
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="Rockin' Doc":e79xtpbg]I voted indifferent. I like it if Sheffield is coming in as a pinchitting, power bat and an occasional starter against left handers. I don't like it much if he is being handed a starting spot based on past performance. I worry that his defense will be a major liability in the outfield.[/quote:e79xtpbg]
what he said. verbatim, but with less capitalization.
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holychicken
Apr 04 2009 04:32 PM
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Indifferent.
He is traditional total douche and had an absolutely terrible year last year and was SO bad (in some way) that the tigers ate 14 mil just to get rid of him. That scares me.
On the other hand, mets got him for cheap and he has the potential to fill a potentially big hole for the Mets offensive lineup. So if he accepts his place and performs better than he did last year, it could be a very good move.
I suspect, however, that the Mets are going to be eating 440k.
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batmagadanleadoff
Apr 04 2009 04:49 PM
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I voted other (for now), because I don't know how the Mets intend to use him. I'll really have a good feel for this acquisition by Halloween, when I'll know what Sheffield did for the Mets in 2009.
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SteveJRogers
Apr 04 2009 04:56 PM
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While it means jack squat, it would be kind of nice to see someone trotting around the bases in a Met uni when montages of 500th homers is shown.
Well, for the novelty of it all, I HOPE the Mets resist the urge of doing the honoring!
But then again, they did have an honoring ceremony for Eddie Murray's 400th.
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OlerudOwned
Apr 04 2009 05:16 PM
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Indifferent. I'm deferring. If he's good and plays to a role without causing trouble, I'll like it. If he sucks and the team keeps him around too long, I won't.
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Edgy DC
Apr 04 2009 05:25 PM
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="A Boy Named Seo":15qb50tx]="Edgy DC":15qb50tx]I voted hate. It's really more dislike. He's cheap enough for the Mets to control the situation, and they sent nobody off for him.[/quote:15qb50tx]
Your explanation almost sounded like a like.[/quote:15qb50tx]
No, that's a qualifier that takes it up from hate, rather than from neutral. I didn't bother piling on the reasons I dislike him. I think they're pretty clear.
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metirish
Apr 04 2009 07:23 PM
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"I realize I'm at a point in my career where I realize I'm not the marquee guy to come in here and demand anything - demand a position or anything," said Sheffield, 40. "Now I'm so much at peace with where I'm at. Coming in here, I want to win a championship. If it takes me coming off the bench to do that, I'm willing to do that. That's pretty much as far as it goes
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We'll see Gary , we'll see.
Wright helped recruit him....as did Uncle Dwight
| ]" Jimmy Rollins is probably one of my biggest friends in baseball, and that was tough for me," Sheffield said. "Talking to [Reds manager] Dusty Baker was tough. That was one of the biggest reasons why I made the decision, when you have the face of the franchise making a phone call to you. That was very important to me."
"He's ecstatic," Sheffield said. "He was pushing me off the couch. I was content to be with my wife and my kids and they were all yelling at me, 'You still have something left. Just go out and show the world that you got it.' [Gooden] has been blowing my phone up all day today, too. He's just glad I made the move and we're making history at the same time."
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Wright sent a text to Gary...
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Edgy DC
Apr 04 2009 07:53 PM
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I'd rather have Dwight.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 04 2009 11:40 PM
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="batmagadanleadoff":12ezian2]I voted other (for now), because I don't know how the Mets intend to use him. I'll really have a good feel for this acquisition by Halloween, when I'll know what Sheffield did for the Mets in 2009.[/quote:12ezian2]
Ditto. Although I think we'll know a bit sooner-- say, 2 months in-- whether Shef's 2008 was born more of injury or time's toll... and whether he's more of an offensive force on-field or off.
Scuttlebutt's that he has a clear shot at the RF start gig, though, no?
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batmagadanleadoff
Apr 05 2009 12:16 AM
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="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":22nobi4x]="batmagadanleadoff":22nobi4x]I voted other (for now), because I don't know how the Mets intend to use him. I'll really have a good feel for this acquisition by Halloween, when I'll know what Sheffield did for the Mets in 2009.[/quote:22nobi4x]
Ditto. Although I think we'll know a bit sooner-- say, 2 months in-- whether Shef's 2008 was born more of injury or time's toll... and whether he's more of an offensive force on-field or off.
Scuttlebutt's that he has a clear shot at the RF start gig, though, no?[/quote:22nobi4x]
Yeah. It's not as if the Mets had to give up a young Nolan Ryan or Amos Otis to get Sheff. And if Marlon is the odd man out, he's expendable and replaceable. After that, it's a meritocracy as to who gets the playing time, for the most part.
But even if it does turn out that Sheff's recent diminished effectiveness was mainly due to injuries, that doesn't mean that age, inevitable age, won't catch up with Sheff this year.
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OlerudOwned
Apr 05 2009 12:21 AM
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Maybe I'm drinking the Mets.com flavor-aid, but I was really impressed with some of Sheffield's post-signing comments. He just sounds like he's reached a place of satisfaction, in terms of his career, where he'll go out there and not make trouble and play the best he can, and if it doesn't work, he'll have no qualms letting go.
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batmagadanleadoff
Apr 05 2009 12:34 AM
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="OlerudOwned":2bdu0hz3]Maybe I'm drinking the Mets.com flavor-aid, but I was really impressed with some of Sheffield's post-signing comments. He just sounds like he's reached a place of satisfaction, in terms of his career, where he'll go out there and not make trouble and play the best he can, and if it doesn't work, he'll have no qualms letting go.[/quote:2bdu0hz3]
Fourteen Million dollars worth of guaranteed money to a 40 year old baseball player will do that.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 05 2009 12:57 AM
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Having seen RF up close today... like rocking a rhyme that's right on time, it will indeed be tricky. I may have to start averting my eyes on flyballs to right all over again.
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bmfc1
Apr 05 2009 06:23 AM
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Sheffield was a big part of [u:1apxtlie]Game of Shadows[/u:1apxtlie] (if you get my drift) and he's been a jerk for a long time so I don't know why that will change (the Mets uni doesn't have transformation powers like the MFY uniform) but... he's here so I'm looking at it this way (if this happens): who would I rather have on the bench, Sheffield or Marlon Anderson? That's an easy one.
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smg58
Apr 05 2009 06:59 AM
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Aside from how I feel about him personally, I get the feeling that if he were actually a better player right now than either Nick Evans or Bobby Kielty, the Tigers wouldn't be paying him $14M to play for us.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 05 2009 10:34 AM
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| ="smg58"]Aside from how I feel about him personally, I get the feeling that if he were actually a better player right now than either Nick Evans or Bobby Kielty, the Tigers wouldn't be paying him $14M to play for us. |
It's a little bit less to do with ability, methinks... and more to do with the franchise's situation.
The Tigers are loaded with contracts like his-- Bonderman for 4/38, Guillen for 4/48, Willis (signed after a down year) for 3/29, and Nate F-ing Robertson for 3/21-- mostly taken on in 2006's afterglow. Basically, they've got our payroll-- with, like, 7 Castillo contracts, no less-- without the income streams (no new stadium, much less recession-proof fanbase spending, no SNY). They need to shed payroll-- since Shef's more or less redundant, and blocking the development of younger, cheaper guys for what will likely be a mediocre club at best (and since he has little off-field value to the franchise), he's a painful first step in that direction (even if they're actually eating his sunk cost).
But Sheffield's just the first. If Detroit's economy doesn't do a sudden, magical 180 this summer, it won't matter if the Tigers perform this year.
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RealityChuck
Apr 05 2009 11:20 AM
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It's a reasonable gamble. He could add RH power, or he could just flop. But if the latter, the team can just cut him. (I think that will help ensure Sheffield works hard -- he could be fired at any time).
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cooby
Apr 05 2009 03:03 PM
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For the first time in a good 10 or 12 years (since Rey-O) the Mets have a player I am totally hot for.
Love it.
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A Boy Named Seo
Apr 05 2009 03:05 PM
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Ooo-wee! You go, girl!
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cooby
Apr 05 2009 03:07 PM
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lol...
Really, maybe I'll even watch some games this year, just to see him :)
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MFS62
Apr 05 2009 03:58 PM
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="cooby":15d810r7]For the first time in a good 10 or 12 years (since Rey-O) the Mets have a player I am totally hot for.
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Cooby, I guess there is no greater compliment you can give to a player.
Later
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Benjamin Grimm
Apr 05 2009 04:02 PM
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Wait... what about Todd Zeile? Don't I remember you calling him TILF?
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OlerudOwned
Apr 05 2009 04:06 PM
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Weird to think we'll have a guy who came up wearing powder blue ball-in-glove era Brewers pullovers.
Weird to think of Sheff as a shortstop, too. Rickie Weeks could really be his reincarnation, right down to the active hands in their batting stances.
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cooby
Apr 05 2009 05:07 PM
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| ="Benjamin Grimm"]Wait... what about Todd Zeile? Don't I remember you calling him TILF? |
No, not so much zeal for Zeile for TILF. Rey or Carlos, remember!?
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Yep, I pity you poor males, only watching for their playing abilities....
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 05 2009 05:32 PM
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Really, Cooby... REALLY?
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cooby
Apr 05 2009 07:04 PM
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Well maybe not his 18 year old greasy self (though he did have lucious lips, no?) I don't think I spelled that right.
Doc sure looks mean as hell there doesn't he?
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Edgy DC
Apr 05 2009 07:52 PM
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Is that their court appearance for beating up the cop?
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Fman99
Apr 05 2009 07:59 PM
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="Edgy DC":2pwmw3xs]Is that their court appearance for beating up the cop?[/quote:2pwmw3xs]
Just let your Soul-Glo!
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 05 2009 08:12 PM
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="Edgy DC":w001b2um]Is that their court appearance for beating up the cop?[/quote:w001b2um]
I do believe t'is so.
Off-topic: I love mid-80s pictures of stylish sports dudes. Between feathered hair and the Jheri-Curl, even tough guys have their edges softened (and sprayed wet/teased).
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A Boy Named Seo
Apr 05 2009 08:13 PM
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You down wit' OPP? Yeah, you know me!
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metsguyinmichigan
Apr 05 2009 11:37 PM
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Looks like Nick Evans, and not Marlon, is the casualty of the Sheffield signing.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 05 2009 11:40 PM
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="metsguyinmichigan":11zmbped]Looks like Nick Evans, and not Marlon, is the casualty of the Sheffield signing.[/quote:11zmbped]
For now, yes. In a week, Marlon's likely gone, too (to make room for Livan).
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 06 2009 04:43 AM
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="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":2tp9i25a] If Detroit's economy doesn't do a sudden, magical 180 this summer, it won't matter if the Tigers perform this year.[/quote:2tp9i25a]
I don't think Detroit's economy is ever going to recover. How could it?
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duan
Apr 06 2009 09:18 AM
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="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":2dql048w]="metsguyinmichigan":2dql048w]Looks like Nick Evans, and not Marlon, is the casualty of the Sheffield signing.[/quote:2dql048w]
For now, yes. In a week, Marlon's likely gone, too (to make room for Livan).[/quote:2dql048w]
and therein's the point - that's all that he's taking a roster space from and I'd be very, very, very, surprised if he's not quite a bit more productive.
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Benjamin Grimm
Apr 06 2009 09:50 AM
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I've been reading that it's Darren O'Day who's in jeopardy, not Anderson.
And I'm less pleased about that, since if O'Day gets sent down the organization could lose him. And if he was good enough to make the team, I'd hate to see him casually discarded.
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gerrard00
Apr 06 2009 10:07 AM
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I voted "don't like it", because I don't want anything to prevent Church from getting a fair shot to shine. At least Willie isn't the one divvying out playing time or Sheff would wind up the every day right fielder.
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duan
Apr 06 2009 10:18 AM
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i'm game for only having 11 pitchers. totally game.
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TransMonk
Apr 06 2009 10:38 AM
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I like it. Cheap, proven and seems to know his role (for now). I was gone for the weekend and saw the signing on a TV crawl yesterday. I originally groaned, but with him getting the league minimum, why not?
As far as dividing the playing time, I say the more options the better. Jerry seems to know how to play the hot hand.
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SteveJRogers
Apr 17 2009 08:21 PM
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="SteveJRogers":2xbk0gxs]While it means jack squat, it would be kind of nice to see someone trotting around the bases in a Met uni when montages of 500th homers is shown.
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But did it HAVE to be in the black uni? UGH!
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willpie
Apr 18 2009 08:59 AM
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Didn't think I was going to like Sheff that quickly. #500 was pretty clutch, though, and a cooler moment than I was expecting.
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Ashie62
Apr 18 2009 02:54 PM
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Sheff seems to have mellowed..Seems like he can add a certain fear factor to opponents that was missing in 07-08
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Elster88
Apr 19 2009 10:38 AM
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="SteveJRogers":hu4dho3l]="SteveJRogers":hu4dho3l]While it means jack squat, it would be kind of nice to see someone trotting around the bases in a Met uni when montages of 500th homers is shown.
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But did it HAVE to be in the black uni? UGH![/quote:hu4dho3l]
Stop pandering.
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Elster88
Apr 19 2009 10:38 AM
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="willpie":1i8rx6oj]Didn't think I was going to like Sheff that quickly. #500 was pretty clutch, though, and a cooler moment than I was expecting.[/quote:1i8rx6oj]
Agree!
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Elster88
Apr 19 2009 10:39 AM
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="Ashie62":16p1k8iu]Sheff seems to have mellowed..Seems like he can add a certain fear factor to opponents that was missing in 07-08[/quote:16p1k8iu]
Agree on both counts. I just don't think I want him starting over Church when Church is OPSing over a thousand. That's on Jerry.
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Gwreck
Apr 20 2009 11:59 AM
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="Elster88":35zbx1nh]Stop pandering.[/quote:35zbx1nh]
It's not pandering. The Mets desperately need to get rid of those uniforms.
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