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IGT, 4-8-09: Pelfrey v Volquez

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2009 09:00 AM

Hey look, you wusses can poo-poo this but I'm on an IGT win streak and will continue starting the game threads if or until the Mets fail to win one. I'm kind of hoping this is the year Pelfrey turns into a serious ass-kicker. I know it's tough to make that leap given his numbers, and his spring wasn't very encouraging, but still. For a big-time prospect who reached the Mets in a flash he's done a good job of lying in the weeds until now. But look: He's ourt No. 2 starter all of a sudeen? Good. Now go kick some patootie. LGM, YGB, YYYBBB

soupcan Apr 08 2009 09:02 AM Re: IGT, 4-8-09: Pelfrey v Volquez

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: He's ourt No. 2 starter all of a sudeen? Good. Now go kick some patootie. LGM, YGB, YYYBBB What are you - Dutch?

Gwreck Apr 08 2009 09:19 AM

I guess he reached the Mets in a flash but he pitched 140 innings in his last year at Wichita State so it wasn't as if he was right out of high school. I guess the jump to 200 innings with the Mets last year (versus 80 Mets IP and 72 minors IP in 2007) could be a little concerning but I think the Mets did a good job getting Pelfrey major league exposure while not rushing him. I think he'll slightly improve on his numbers (3.72 ERA, 209 H, 64 BB) this year. Expecting good things.

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 09:29 AM

Can not wait.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2009 09:31 AM

Pelfrey reminds me a lot of Mike Scott. They both came up with terrific major league fastballs, good enough, though not enough to succeed with. Pelf, like Scott before him, is struggling to master a second pitch to complement his speed ball. Pelf's main pitch is so good that, like Scott, finding a second pitch might be the difference between one day winning the Cy Young award or being John Pacella's most comparable player on similarity scores. The talent is evident, though not on a consistent basis, obviously. Pelfrey and Scott are both named Mike. Both came up as Mets. Pelfrey's secretary is named Scott. Scott's pet cat is named Pelfrey. Got sandpaper?

soupcan Apr 08 2009 09:37 AM

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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2009 10:00 AM

With a righty going, we'll get Dickerson and Taveras in the OF over McDonald and Hairston, which should improve the Reds' D and maybe even their O. In other words, we need to score more runs.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 08 2009 10:19 AM

FYI: Taveras was out because of the flu Monday... McDonald played CF like a handless man. But, yeah, some hitting would be nice.

metirish Apr 08 2009 02:12 PM

Reyes -- SS Murphy -- LF Wright -- 3B Delgado -- 1B Beltran -- CF Church -- RF Schneider -- C Castillo -- 2B Pelfrey -- RHP

metirish Apr 08 2009 02:16 PM

Jerry Hairston Jr. cf Chris Dickerson lf Joey Votto 1b Brandon Phillips 2b Jay Bruce rf Edwin Encarnacion 3b Ramon Hernandez c Alex Gonzalez ss Edinson Volquez p From the Cincinnati Enquirer

Farmer Ted Apr 08 2009 02:18 PM

Starting to like the idea of Castillo in the 8 spot. Presents a number of options the opposing pitcher doesn't want to consider with the pitcher on deck.

metirish Apr 08 2009 02:23 PM

Noticed this bit in the Enquirer ] Tonight's the night JohnFay at 4/8/2009 10:48 AM EDT Tonight's the night we find out what the seasonticket base is. The Reds don't announce that, but they've said it's down. A Wednesday night, early in the year, isn't likely to be part of any package but a full-season package. I'd bet they break the alltime low for Great Ameridan Ball Park. The record low is 11,987, set April 3 last year. That happened on Johnny Cueto's debut, probably the most exciting game of the year. The drop in season-ticket renewals is my guess is why the Reds held the line on player payroll. According to the USA Today salary list, the Reds' Opening Day payroll was $73.56 million, down from $74.12 million last year. The Reds' cut, one of 14 in the baseball, was modest. Ten teams trimmed $10 million or more. Here's how the rest of the Central stacks up: Cubs $134.8 million Astros $102.9 million Milwaukee $80.1 million St. Louis $77.6 million Pittsburgh $46.8 million The New York Yankees, of course, are No. 1 at a cool $201.4 million. The Mets, the team the Reds lost to on Opening Day, causing wide-spread panic among fans, is second at $149.3 million. Surely they will get a decent crowd for tonights game.

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 05:24 PM

Delgado sort of got a bit of that one, eh? The audio track on the online stream I'm using is slowed down and garbled, making it sound like it's being broadcast from hell.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2009 05:29 PM

Volquez hat/hair combo might one day be remembered for its Oscar Gambleness.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2009 05:33 PM

uh, we need the triple-play ball NOW

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 05:35 PM

Strike zone's up here, Pelf.

Nymr83 Apr 08 2009 05:37 PM

Pelfrey gives it back and more. I'm off to a seder, don't blow it Mets!

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 05:38 PM

That ain't good.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2009 05:52 PM

44 fucking pitches, horrendous lazy play by Reyes and Delgado.

Kong76 Apr 08 2009 06:05 PM

That was a long-ass two innings.

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 06:05 PM

Refreshing second inning for Pelfrey. The 1st was just practice, right?

Kong76 Apr 08 2009 06:58 PM

Big Pelf at 91 or 2 pitches through four as the booth reminds us they have a 12:30 start tomorrow. I was distracted, and I realize they want to get innings out of him, but if he was getting up there why did he bat with the bases loaded to end an inning?

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 07:03 PM

Loaded. 0 outs. Delgado, Beltran, Church due up. Gimmie something, please please please.

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 07:10 PM

"In play, run(s)" is the most suspenseful phrase in the English language. Is it a grand slam? An run-scoring double play? Hurry up! (It was an RBI groundout... followed by a 2-run single from Beltran. Woo-hoo!)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2009 07:12 PM

Great turn at bat by Delgado to earn that RBI groundout. Reyes, Murphy and Beltran all had nice solid singles. But Wright looked terrible! We are very fortunate they muffed that play.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2009 07:23 PM

Put 'em away, Pelf

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2009 07:24 PM

Holy shit! Nice play by Castillo!

metirish Apr 08 2009 07:25 PM

Castillo bailed out Pelfery twice there on that play.

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 07:28 PM

Certainly doesn't absolve him completely, and he had his share of help, but credit to Pelfrey for bouncing back from that awful inning and getting through five with a lead.

Kong76 Apr 08 2009 07:29 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2009 07:31 PM

Yeah, it worked out nice, but I'm not so sure throwing home across the in- field to get the final out when you have someone in a rundown is really the textbook way to go. They barely got the out at home and the runner caught between the bags was the surer out. We'd be questioning why throw home if the guy scored, no? (edited for clarity)

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 07:31 PM

Kong76 wrote: Yeah, it worked out nice, but I'm not so sure throwing home across the in- field to get the final out when you have someone in a rundown is really the textbook way to go. They barely got the out at home and the runner caught up would have been surer out (we'd be questioning why throw home if he scored). Wouldn't the run have counted if he crossed the plate before the other rundown ended? Granted, I'm not actually watching the game so I don't know how quickly/easily they could've tagged the runner from first.

*62 Apr 08 2009 07:31 PM

Cheap out on the pickoff to make himself eligible for a W. At least he .... battled. And on to the pen.

Kong76 Apr 08 2009 07:33 PM

OO: Wouldn't the run have counted if he crossed the plate before the other rundown ended? <<< Yes, and the runner was pretty far from Castillo. Didn't think that far.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 08 2009 07:41 PM

Parnell comes on. Let's see what you got, kid!

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 07:45 PM

Woo, I found a free radio stream after the TV one sputtered and died a final time. Just in time to hear Parnell walk a batter, with pinch hitter Ayncelay Ixnay

metsguyinmichigan Apr 08 2009 07:48 PM

Phew!

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 07:49 PM

Nice inning by Parnell to get the ground ball after walking two. Don't kid yourself, the kid can throw some heat. Clocked at 97 on the first strike to that last batter.

metirish Apr 08 2009 07:52 PM

Parnell pitching is like Murphy hitting, he just looks like he belongs.

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 07:56 PM

Boo ya! RBI hit for Delgado, Wright beats the throw home. Scary headfirst slide at the plate. I had nervous there for a minute. Walking Beltran to get to Churchie.

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 07:57 PM

Delgado really doing a ton to alleviate my concerns that he's be First-Half-of-'08 Carlos this season. He's blazing out of the gate.

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 08:01 PM

OH YEAH

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 08:02 PM

Small bit of nitpicking, but I don't like how the Reds didn't update their primary mark when they overhauled the uniforms. The new workmark script they use is gorgeous, and perfectly fitting for a time with such a long history. But why not use it in the logo, too? A little consistency can do wonders for us geeks.

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 08:02 PM

Wow the Reds play defense like the Bad News Bears, sans Kelly Leek.

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 08:03 PM

Way to be, Schneid. Mets making the most of their chances, though not without help.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 08 2009 08:05 PM

Great inning! Pelf exhales. Marlon Anderson not impressing.

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 08:07 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: Way to be, Schneid. Mets making the most of their chances, though not without help. It's nice when they open the door for you, but also nice that the Mets are taking advantage of the opportunities. Good times.

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 08:08 PM

Talking to myself now, but turns out somebody at the Chris Creamer Logo boards already made a fantastic concept based around the idea I was talking about. http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg180/bohob_4_life/MLB%20Redesign%20Project/reds_id-1.jpg

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 08:13 PM

Eh. Pedro Feliciano comes out and says, "Hey, let's think about 2008."

metsguyinmichigan Apr 08 2009 08:14 PM

Freaking Feliciano. Painful memories.

Kong76 Apr 08 2009 08:14 PM

Now, now.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 08 2009 08:19 PM

No, that was dreadful. That's the kind of crap that got the rest of the pen shipped out of town.

Edgy DC Apr 08 2009 08:19 PM

Green guides his pitches with body English.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 08 2009 08:22 PM

Yea Jose! Now let's get through these next two and call it a night!

themetfairy Apr 08 2009 08:23 PM

No beer for Feliciano or Green tonight.

Kong76 Apr 08 2009 08:28 PM

Keith comparing plays on the field to men's tennis?

Kong76 Apr 08 2009 08:33 PM

mf: No beer for Feliciano or Green tonight <<< I'm giving Green 0.08, you wouldn't understand why.

TheOldMole Apr 08 2009 08:34 PM

That sounds like near beer.

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 08:36 PM

TheOldMole wrote: That sounds like near beer. He's just getting head. Er, foam.

TheOldMole Apr 08 2009 08:38 PM

One run doesn't hurt...much.

themetfairy Apr 08 2009 08:39 PM

Putz....

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 08:40 PM

Let's get that run back here before we hand the ball to Frankie. Looking now at tomorrow's game time it appears that I'll be purchasing the MLB Gameday Audio tomorrow.

Edgy DC Apr 08 2009 08:46 PM

Lincoln-Mercury Post-Game Show: how come I hear no snarky TARP jokes about that?

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 08:46 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Lincoln-Mercury Post-Game Show: how come I hear no snarky TARP jokes about that? Because that kind of douchiness only really works in a print media. Thankfully.

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 08:47 PM

On to the 9th. Go get em Frank.

Kong76 Apr 08 2009 08:48 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2009 08:52 PM

Around 8 o'clock, I thought this would drag on 'til midnight. How's that for a jinx as Frankie comes in to close it out?

TheOldMole Apr 08 2009 08:52 PM

I hate leadoff walks.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2009 08:53 PM

Please to be not putting up the tying run, Frankie.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 08 2009 08:53 PM

Doesn't seem like any of them are sharp tonight.

Kong76 Apr 08 2009 08:54 PM

Leadoff walks score a lot.

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 08:54 PM

This is his style... he walks the tightrope. I will judge on the results and not the method.

TheOldMole Apr 08 2009 08:56 PM

Does he ever check the runner?

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 08:56 PM

For a closer he throws a LOT of off speed pitches.

Edgy DC Apr 08 2009 08:57 PM

I'm learning a lot about Rodriguez tonight.

TheOldMole Apr 08 2009 08:57 PM

Bad call on Delgado.

Edgy DC Apr 08 2009 08:58 PM

What?!

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 08:58 PM

Ugh. Boned by the umps on that one. Delgado called for stepping off the bag to throw to 3rd, replay looks like he stayed on. Fuck.

TheOldMole Apr 08 2009 08:59 PM

Umps channeling Marge Schott?

seawolf17 Apr 08 2009 08:59 PM

Bill Welke, Red.

Edgy DC Apr 08 2009 08:59 PM

Angel Hernandez, get out of Bill Welke's head.

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 08:59 PM

TheOldMole wrote: Umps channeling Marge Schott? Try Angel Hernandez.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2009 09:00 PM

FOR FUCK'S SAKE, FRANKIE, THROW A GODDAMN STRIKE.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2009 09:00 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: ="TheOldMole"]Umps channeling Marge Schott? Try Angel Hernandez. S'okay; Frankie's channeling John Franco. So it's all good.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2009 09:01 PM

I'm strangely unconcerned.

metirish Apr 08 2009 09:02 PM

This is a high wire act right now...I'm concerned...

Edgy DC Apr 08 2009 09:02 PM

If they left Green in, they could have Putz here to bail Rodriguez out.

Gwreck Apr 08 2009 09:03 PM

Yeah, but in the second game of the season? You figure your horses are good this early. I am also mostly unconcerned.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2009 09:03 PM

I wish Reyes and Castillo were a step back here. Keep it in the infield, fellas.

TheOldMole Apr 08 2009 09:04 PM

One to go.

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 09:04 PM

Yeah baby. Big K there. Blew it by him.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2009 09:04 PM

"You just can't hit a high fastball." - moron sitting behind us at a Ducks game last year

Edgy DC Apr 08 2009 09:05 PM

K

Edgy DC Apr 08 2009 09:06 PM

The compact motion into a sharp tightly wrapped curve kind of reminds me of Neil Allen.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2009 09:06 PM

Brian Schneider: "That pitch you just threw? Two more of those."

TheOldMole Apr 08 2009 09:07 PM

2 strikes

seawolf17 Apr 08 2009 09:07 PM

Looper.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2009 09:07 PM

Piece o' cake!

TheOldMole Apr 08 2009 09:07 PM

Good old warning track.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2009 09:07 PM

Thnought that was a HR for sure.

Kong76 Apr 08 2009 09:08 PM

yay

Fman99 Apr 08 2009 09:08 PM

I never had a doubt. This is 2009.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 08 2009 09:08 PM

Phew. Wasn't worried. Wasn't worried at all. OK, a little. Let's see if we can give the pen a day off tomorrow!

Edgy DC Apr 08 2009 09:09 PM

The Reds should've re-signed Randa.

metirish Apr 08 2009 09:09 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Thnought that was a HR for sure. In that ball park I was certain it was....that was a fun four hours

OlerudOwned Apr 08 2009 09:09 PM

Hoomph.

Gwreck Apr 08 2009 09:09 PM

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Frayed Knot Apr 08 2009 09:11 PM

Frankie's gonna walk guys. If that's a surprise to anyone either they've not been paying attention or they subscribe to the old fiction that if a closer blows a save (or even just gets into trouble) and a Met fan isn't there then it didn't really happen.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2009 09:13 PM

Gwreck wrote: --> [Books] How about "TheboIToks" ? Nah, don't like it.

Zvon Apr 08 2009 09:14 PM

Whew. been popping in here to keep up on the game. I'm just so glad this didn't become a loss. It would have turned all that great press regarding the bullpen on opening day to shit. Bottom-line: we got it done. No matter how good a pen we have, there will be games like this. We win our share of these and all's good.

metirish Apr 08 2009 09:14 PM

I just sent all my gay friends on FB a Carlos Delgado bobble head doll.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2009 09:14 PM

Hey, if the season ends today, we're in the playoffs!

gerrard00 Apr 09 2009 08:41 AM

This is the dawning...of a new-ooo era! At least that's what I read. I didn't record enough extra time to see the end of the game. Ugh.