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Jim Thome

TheOldMole
Apr 18 2009 10:39 AM

Had no idea, before Sheff jacked his and they started printing lists of the 500 club, that Jim Thome had so many. Does this mean he's a HOF candidate? He's way over the top on Baseball Reference's HOF monitor.

Kong76
Apr 18 2009 10:46 AM

~ 25/17,000 is a pretty staggering number.

cooby
Apr 18 2009 10:47 AM

He could be. He was a major star for Cleveland before Phillie. Nice big guy too, never heard any "rumors" about him.

My son adored him when he was a little boy. (my son, not Thome)

themetfairy
Apr 18 2009 11:31 AM

I've only heard good things about Thome. He was active with the Tug McGraw Foundation when he was in Philly, and all reports are that he's a great guy.

Kong76
Apr 18 2009 11:36 AM

I'd like to add that it's not a popularity contest, but I can't.

metirish
Apr 18 2009 11:40 AM

If Frank Thomas gets in then Thome should , yes/no?

HahnSolo
Apr 18 2009 05:06 PM

I would probably put Thomas first, but that's without really taking a hard look at the numbers.

Now, if you were to advocate both for the HOF, does Carlos Delgado get a look?

GYC
Apr 18 2009 05:53 PM

If I had I vote for the Hall of Fame, I'd vote in JI

GYC
Apr 18 2009 05:54 PM

JIM THOME, but alas, I am not. Who knows with the BBWAA, though. Clowns.

MFS62
Apr 18 2009 07:20 PM

="metirish":27851ocb]If Frank Thomas gets in then Thome should , yes/no?[/quote:27851ocb]
If Thomas yes, then Thome certainly.
But I'd prefer Thome yes and Thomas no.
My impression is Thome playing most of his games as a first baseman. Thomas was a poster boy for the DH.

EDIT: I checked. Thome had twice as many games as a first baseman than as a DH. If you add 3B to 1B, it is around 3:1.
Thomas was about 1.4 : 1 as a DH.

Later

Vic Sage
Apr 20 2009 01:49 PM

Thomas was the superior hitter, both at his peak and for his career. a 2x MVP, with around 10 seasons amongst top 5 OPS+, he was among the most dominant hitters of his era.

Thome was very good, but his numbers don't really compare favorably, either at his peak, or for his career. Regarding the DH factor, it was not like Thome was an up the middle player or a GG corner man. His ticket to Cooperstown will not be punched because of his glove, so i don't see that as making up the difference between him and Big Hurt.

"niceness" aside, i don't think ite even that close a call, as between the 2.

TransMonk
Apr 20 2009 01:53 PM

Agreed, Thomas is more HOF worthy than Thome. Although, I'm guessing they both get in.

Edgy DC
Apr 20 2009 02:00 PM

I thought Thomas was clearly better, but then I checked and it was closer than I thought. Did not know Thome had a .406 OBP over his career.

I score it 798,248 for Thome and 967,104 for Thomas as hitters. Does the difference between a firstbaseman/thirdbaseman/DH and a DH/firstbaseman make up for that. I think not, but I think it's an open question.