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IGT 4/22/09: NYM @ STL (Death to Molina, already yet)

G-Fafif Apr 22 2009 05:51 PM

The team that refuses to slide... Reyes SS Murphy LF Wright 3B Delgado 1B Beltran CF Church RF Castro C Castillo 2B Maine P The team refuses to die... Schumaker 2B Rasmus RF Pujols 1B Duncan LF Ankiel CF Mofuckinglina C Greene SS Thurston 3B Pineiro P

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 06:08 PM

Jerry puts Murphy back on the horse, trying to build up the kid's cahn-fidence.

Farmer Ted Apr 22 2009 06:12 PM

I want more Santos.

metirish Apr 22 2009 06:17 PM

It doesn't mean much but after listening to Razor talk before the game I feel like Murphy will be OK and so will the Mets. LETS

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 06:18 PM

Nice running catch against the wall by Duncan, that son of a pitching coach. Oh yeah, I'm borrowing that one.

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 06:19 PM

Sorry, Irish. GO

metsmarathon Apr 22 2009 06:21 PM

damnit! how many more times are we going to line into double plays with the runner(s) in motion?

metsmarathon Apr 22 2009 06:21 PM

METS!

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 06:57 PM

Murphy smacks a single up the middle to tie it up. 1-1, middle 3rd.

metirish Apr 22 2009 07:00 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: Murphy smacks a single up the middle to tie it up. 1-1, middle 3rd. Did he navigate his way to first base ok?

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 07:04 PM

That he did. I think Reyes held on second so Murphy wouldn't get any ideas.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:06 PM

I'd like to see Castro block the plate more, like whats-his-nuts does for St. Louis. RBI FC, 3-1 Cards. Lame.

Number 6 Apr 22 2009 07:07 PM

I hat Ankiel's moustache.

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 07:11 PM

You don't deserve to get out of an inning unscathed when you start it by walking the pitcher. And he got scathed.

seawolf17 Apr 22 2009 07:11 PM

Fman99 wrote: I'd like to see Castro block the plate more, like whats-his-nuts does for St. Louis. RBI FC, 3-1 Cards. Lame. Especially with, say, the pitcher coming at you. For Chrissakes, Ramon. He's not going to hit you. Stop being such a candyass.

Number 6 Apr 22 2009 07:15 PM

Single for the candyass.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:21 PM

I liked our chances with Castillo up there and he hit it hard, but right at the guy. And so it goes.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:26 PM

Boo

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 22 2009 07:28 PM

Maine sucks.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:29 PM

Boo again. I'm beginning to think that the key to scoring runs is getting hits when there's a guy on 3rd base. But what the hell do I know. Now where is my gin?

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:38 PM

Oh, I do enjoy the latest "don't smoke" commercial on SNY. A woman with a bunch of nubby fingers due to poor circulation. It's kind of hot, actually. I also have a hankering for Jimmy Dean breakfast sausages.

Rockin' Doc Apr 22 2009 07:38 PM

How hard is it for the Mets staff to learn that walks kill? Maine apparently didn't pay attention during lastnight's debacle. He has walked 4 hitters in his 4 innings of work and each of them has come around to score. Throw some strikes. Hell, if you feel so inclined to walk people, walk Pujols rather than the hitters in front of him.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:39 PM

Enjoyed Kevin Burkhart's testimony on how much better Busch stadium is than Citi Field. Then they showed Ozzie's walk off postseason dinger. What the fuck? Why are they doing this to me?

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:40 PM

Hey Doc, you got any breakfast sausages?

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:41 PM

Hey, a 1-2-3 inning. For us! Let's Go Mets! Get some runs back! Optimism!

Rockin' Doc Apr 22 2009 07:41 PM

Damn it Fman, now you've made me hungry.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 22 2009 07:42 PM

Fman99 wrote: Hey, a 1-2-3 inning. For us! Let's Go Mets! Get some runs back! Optimism! Yeah, I'm very excited too.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:42 PM

Johan says, "Take the Train to the Game!" They should mention the Citi Field parking fee. What is it now, $18?

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:43 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Damn it Fman, now you've made me hungry. C'mon over, Doc! I'll make you an omelette.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 22 2009 07:44 PM

Think Santana can pitch every other game?

Rockin' Doc Apr 22 2009 07:46 PM

Fman99 wrote: ="Rockin' Doc"]Damn it Fman, now you've made me hungry. C'mon over, Doc! I'll make you an omelette. That sounds interesting. If I leave now, I'd likely get to your place around breakfast time.

Rockin' Doc Apr 22 2009 07:47 PM

metsguy - "Think Santana can pitch every other game?" .500 teams don't often make the post-season.

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 07:48 PM

This Rasmus fits right in wearing a Cardinal uniform with the rest of the smug-looking pricks they've had over the years - Edmonds, Herr, Drew, Ankiel, Van Slyke. Just the look of them gets to me.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:48 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: ="Fman99"] Rockin' Doc wrote: Damn it Fman, now you've made me hungry. C'mon over, Doc! I'll make you an omelette. That sounds interesting. If I leave now, I'd likely get to your place around breakfast time. My door is open -- to any CPF'er who wants to pop in. Mi casa su casa.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:56 PM

Holy hell. Again, Fossum coming in with the bases loaded and two out. I feel like this happened before.

seawolf17 Apr 22 2009 07:56 PM

Seriously? One more batter for Maine, even though he just gave up a hit to a guy who's spent his entire career in the AL? And that backfired. And here comes Fossum to walk in more runs. Seriously, Jerry?

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 07:59 PM

Well it worked this time. Just goes to show, maybe I don't know anything.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 22 2009 08:02 PM

Not for nothing but Church looks like shit.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 08:05 PM

Ten in a row retired by shitty Joel Piniero.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 22 2009 08:05 PM

We suck

Frayed Knot Apr 22 2009 08:06 PM

Not only are we hitting a bunch of stuff right at 'em (does Pinero have [u:7f6bfff160]any[/u:7f6bfff160] Ks?) but they're making plays on all the stuff we're not hitting right at 'em.

bmfc1 Apr 22 2009 08:06 PM

Church was doing fine and the Jerry decided to sit him for Sheffield. Maybe one game didn't matter but I doubt that it helped.

Ashie62 Apr 22 2009 08:08 PM

Please..not Another year of crappy uninspired baseball..Wouldn't you think after 2 Septembers to misremeber and the new Stadium..oops.park..we would have started with a new manager if for no other reason than to clean the slate. From Manuel on down, with the exception of Johan I see lethargy. Even David Wright is getting on my nerves. Maybe losing is a disease.

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 08:09 PM

and the only cure is.....

Ashie62 Apr 22 2009 08:09 PM

Fman99 wrote: Johan says, "Take the Train to the Game!" They should mention the Citi Field parking fee. What is it now, $18? Hmmm..my train ride from Bumfuck New Jersey is 19 bucks..

Ashie62 Apr 22 2009 08:10 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: and the only cure is..... MORE COWBELL!!

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 08:10 PM

Rick "The Hedgehog" Ankiel is up again. "Ma'am, I hear you have a plumbing problem." "Well, maybe you can check things out with your snake." "Oh yeah...." cue the disco music.

Ashie62 Apr 22 2009 08:12 PM

Snakes,sausages, its a manly night it is

Frayed Knot Apr 22 2009 08:13 PM

="Swan Swan H"]and the only cure is.....

Zvon Apr 22 2009 08:17 PM

Dueling cowbells. This has been a tuff game to watch.

Ashie62 Apr 22 2009 08:17 PM

timimg is everything. Is that Alfonzo wearing number 15?

Ashie62 Apr 22 2009 08:19 PM

Zvon..I am comforted by your prescence

Zvon Apr 22 2009 08:22 PM

Ashie62 wrote: Zvon..I am comforted by your prescence lol. I'm here but I think watching this game is gonna bring on a coma.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 08:22 PM

Ashie62 wrote: Snakes,sausages, its a manly night it is My humor does tend to lean towards these topics. It's not me, it's Fmeat.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 08:24 PM

Pelfrey, Maine and Perez all with ERA's over 7. Sigh.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 08:31 PM

Hey, a hit! Woo hoo! Let's Go Mets! Dip into that shitty bullpen Tony.

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 08:31 PM

The comeback has begun.

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 08:32 PM

Hey my posting level is 'Jack Aker.' Fman, whattaya got?

Zvon Apr 22 2009 08:34 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: The comeback has begun. I think it would be a good time for that comeback,...yes.

PiggiesTomatoes Apr 22 2009 08:35 PM

Is it me or was Sutcliffe more fun when he was drinking???

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 08:35 PM

Hey, an RBI! What the hell?!?

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 08:36 PM

Sutcliffe would be more fun if you were drinking. Meanwhile, the comeback continues. Tying run on deck, a fact that is not changed by Church's popup.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 08:37 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: Hey my posting level is 'Jack Aker.' Fman, whattaya got? Jack Aker? If I jack, nothing should ache her.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 08:38 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: Sutcliffe would be more fun if you were drinking. Meanwhile, the comeback continues. Tying run on deck, a fact that is not changed by Church's popup. Must be why I'm having fun! Except watching that weak ass Church pop-up.

Fman99 Apr 22 2009 08:40 PM

Ryan Franklin has a beard that looks like a medieval pubic patch. And that's the game. Oh we suck. Darnit.

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 08:40 PM

Thus endeth the comeback.

Zvon Apr 22 2009 08:42 PM

I'm gonna ignore the fact that we even did the little things horribly, and blame this whole shitty game on the black hats and jerseys.

themetfairy Apr 22 2009 08:44 PM

This game sucked.

Swan Swan H Apr 22 2009 08:44 PM

Death by haberdashery.

Gwreck Apr 22 2009 08:50 PM

Wow this was bad. What happened to our starting pitching?

Rockin' Doc Apr 23 2009 05:28 AM

Johan had the day off. Seriously, I'm least worried about Pelfrey. I think he'll be okay as a #3 or #4 if he can get an effective second pitch to go with his fastball. Perez is a head case that I'm convinced will forever be maddeningly inconsistent due to his failure to throw strikes. I'm worried that Maine may not recover from his are problems to regain his prior form. I do however hold out more hope for his coming through to fill the #2 slot than I do Perez. I think Omar over estimated the quality and depth of the starting rotation and funneled so much energy into vastly improving the bullpen that he neglected to upgrade the starting rotation at all. What good is the improved bullpen if the team can seldom hand them a lead to protect?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 23 2009 05:48 AM

IMO, Maine is the real issue. He suffers every bit as much as Perez in terms of being too inefficient and/or ineffective to work late into games, only unlike Perez, he's stopped mixing in the occasional gem. It's been this way since Petersen was whacked, more or less.

metirish Apr 23 2009 06:10 AM

Right now I feel better about L Hernandez going today than I do about the rest of them, after Johan that is.

Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 07:18 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 23 2009 07:34 AM

I think none of them are the issue. Two runs wins few games.

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2009 07:31 AM

Yes, but the starting pitching has been more consistently lacking than the offense (last night not-withstanding). 3 starters have ERAs over 7.00 Maine last night 1st inning: leadoff walk - 1 run scores 2nd inning: one-out walk - none scored 3rd inning: leadoff walk (pitcher) - 2 runs score 4th inning: one-out walk - 2 runs score 5th inning: 1-2-3 inning 6th inning: leadoff single - leaves w/2 out & bases loaded It's positively Oliver-esque !! And, in answer to my own question somewhere in this thread: No, Piniero did not have any strikeouts the entire game.

Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 07:43 AM

They'll all have good stretches and bad stretches, and three of them aren't starting well. It's rare to have all five firing on all cylanders at once. I know they'll finish better than seven, just like I know Santana, Stokes, and Rodriguez will finish worse than where they are. We take the notion that some guys will be up while others are down on offense better than we do with pitching, because with eight guys out there on offense every day, it's easier to see it evening out. While I'd love to see Maine/Perez/Pelfrey get straight, what will help to see the balance is more O. The big problem of the pitching failures to me is the strain it puts on the pen. That's compounded, I think, by the modern propensity to still pull starters after seven innings even if they are dominating. It used to be that a 15-inning game would cook the pen for 2-3 days running. Now, any extra-innng game does. Putz and Feliciano have gone out there way too often already. Putz has fried his arm from overuse before.