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IGT, May 1: Mets @ Phils

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 01:58 PM

Just as I suspected, Delgado is not in the starting lineup. Neither is Castillo or Castro. Reyes, ss Cora, 2b Murphy, lf Beltran, cf Wright, 3b Church, rf Tatis, 1b Santos, c Pelfrey, rhp

Edgy DC May 01 2009 02:00 PM

I'm going to come out and advocate for some retroactive DL placements. Short benches suck.

Benjamin Grimm May 01 2009 02:02 PM

I'll renew my call for the 27-man roster. Hopefully Delgado and/or Castillo will at least be available to pinch hit.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 02:18 PM

Chan Ho Park pitching for the bad guys. Two years ago yesterday!

Nymr83 May 01 2009 02:26 PM

]Reyes, ss Cora, 2b Murphy, lf Beltran, cf Wright, 3b Church, rf Tatis, 1b Santos, c Pelfrey, rhp Cora shouldnt be batting 2nd, drop him down between tatis and santos and move everyone else up a spot.

metirish May 01 2009 02:33 PM

Is Delgado on the DL or " day to day" and in a weeks time when he is still not right he then will go on the DL.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 02:38 PM

Nymr83 wrote: ]Reyes, ss Cora, 2b Murphy, lf Beltran, cf Wright, 3b Church, rf Tatis, 1b Santos, c Pelfrey, rhp Cora shouldnt be batting 2nd, drop him down between tatis and santos and move everyone else up a spot. I don't disagree strongly, but you said the same thing the other day yet Cora went out and had a very good day at the plate.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 01 2009 02:54 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ="Nymr83"] ]Reyes, ss Cora, 2b Murphy, lf Beltran, cf Wright, 3b Church, rf Tatis, 1b Santos, c Pelfrey, rhp Cora shouldnt be batting 2nd, drop him down between tatis and santos and move everyone else up a spot. I don't disagree strongly, but you said the same thing the other day yet Cora went out and had a very good day at the plate. This Cora-batting-second business absolutely REEKS of Willie-move.

batmagadanleadoff May 01 2009 02:59 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 01 2009 03:12 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ="Nymr83"] ]Reyes, ss Cora, 2b Murphy, lf Beltran, cf Wright, 3b Church, rf Tatis, 1b Santos, c Pelfrey, rhp Cora shouldnt be batting 2nd, drop him down between tatis and santos and move everyone else up a spot. I don't disagree strongly, but you said the same thing the other day yet Cora went out and had a very good day at the plate. ... which makes it likelier than usual that Cora will suck today. Not a good thing because Cora usually sucks, anyway.

bmfc1 May 01 2009 04:17 PM

The writers are tweeting that Delgado might go on the DL. I looked at the Buffalo roster to see who might get called up. Yeesh--no wonder they are 2-16. Nick Evans is hitting .102 (3 HR out of his 6 hits). http://buffalo.bisons.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=422&stn=true&sid=t422

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 05:10 PM

Cora, sucking as assured, draws a walk and scores on a HR from Muffy. 2-0!

Zvon May 01 2009 05:11 PM

batmagadanleadoff May 01 2009 05:12 PM

So what are the odds Cora gets on base in his next at-bat, being that he walked his first time up? He's due for some out-making.

Zvon May 01 2009 05:21 PM

We should have scored more here in the 1st. Chan Ho Park looked like he wanted to be anywhere but Citizens Band Park. Then he gets the DP from Church. Dagnabbitt. I'll Take the 2. Lets see some pitching Pelf.

Elster88 May 01 2009 05:41 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote: So what are the odds Cora gets on base in his next at-bat, being that he walked his first time up? He's due for some out-making. That's not how probability works.

Zvon May 01 2009 05:42 PM

Mets plate two on sac flys, including one that showed Pelf Power© 4-0 Mets.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 05:53 PM

Lets build that picket fence. Phils have good outfielders.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 06:00 PM

Beltran to me looks impossibly slow, Jeez.

Zvon May 01 2009 06:00 PM

See Beltran?...sliding isn't THAT dangerous. Nice tag by Carlos on a short fly to right makes it 5-0.

Zvon May 01 2009 06:02 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Beltran to me looks impossibly slow, Jeez. Thats cuz he's so fast. Its just he looks slow to the human eye.

Gwreck May 01 2009 06:04 PM

I thought Beltran looked slow there too. But I was glad to see him using proper sliding form.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 06:05 PM

I know he's one of those guys who doesn;t appear like he's moving hard when he's moving a lot, but watch that replay and see how long it takes him to really accelerate. His 0-to-60 looked sluggish, let;s put it that way.

metsguyinmichigan May 01 2009 06:08 PM

Nice to see Chan Ho hasn't changed much.

Zvon May 01 2009 06:13 PM

Gotta get out of this Pelf.

Gwreck May 01 2009 06:14 PM

Tough spot with Ibanez up and bases loaded. If Pelfrey wants to put some guys on, ok, but man up and get the out here, thanks.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 06:17 PM

If it was Burrell he'd have hit it over the fence.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 06:19 PM

Top of the order coming up. Gotta keep scoring.

Zvon May 01 2009 06:19 PM

A frakin broken bat single plates 2. I was just jokin about Beltran. He always looks slow as shit to me...or, not in high gear. Like he feels 100% is not needed. Very rarely do I think he's goin all out, in the field and on the bases. Look at that. The runner goes and Feliz hits it in the vacated hole. ugh.

Zvon May 01 2009 06:21 PM

Yep. Gotta answer right back. I get the Phils feed here. I miss hearing Harry.

Kong76 May 01 2009 06:22 PM

Re: Beltran running home, I thought at the time to myself, "why isn't he in more of a hurry?" He's lost a step a little, I don't think he's slow yet. It's like in the outfield, he seems to know how fast and how much energy to use to get where he has to be to get whatever done. I'm not forgetting the nice bounce so otherwise he mighta been out. Ahh, never mind.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 06:36 PM

HUGE pickoff there.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 06:37 PM

Plef helping himself with the bat and the pickoff. That really wrecked what I was sure was about to be the game-tying rally we all know is coming.

Zvon May 01 2009 06:39 PM

Kong76 wrote: Re: Beltran running home, I thought at the time to myself, "why isn't he in more of a hurry?" He's lost a step a little, I don't think he's slow yet. It's like in the outfield, he seems to know how fast and how much energy to use to get where he has to be to get whatever done. I'm not forgetting the nice bounce so otherwise he mighta been out. Ahh, never mind. If you couple the ginger running to the lack of sliding you might think he's more concerned with not getting hurt than he is with playing the game, and that's a bad place for a player with his tools to be. Its like with Perez, in a way. I think some players consider some games more important than others, and I don't agree with that. I think every game is important, whether it be april, sept, vs the Phils or the worst team in the league. Nice pick off as Pelf erases J-Roll. And Beltran doubles to open the Mets 5th

Zvon May 01 2009 06:41 PM

ooooo, Wrights drivin in some runs tonight :)

Zvon May 01 2009 06:44 PM

ooooo,nice catch by Ibanez.

Zvon May 01 2009 06:50 PM

Chan Ho leaves the park. Pelf due up vs Chad Durbin.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 06:53 PM

That's how you win! Beat up the starter then beat up the reliever.

Kong76 May 01 2009 06:53 PM

Big Pelf with another RBI! Mmmm, Schaefer ....

metirish May 01 2009 06:54 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: That's how you win! Beat up the starter then beat up the reliever. And make sure your own pitcher is doing some hitting.....Pelfrey!

Zvon May 01 2009 06:57 PM

Baseball is such a nutty game :) They bring in a new pitcher to pitch to our pitcher and our pitcher gets a hit.

Kong76 May 01 2009 06:57 PM

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Zvon May 01 2009 06:58 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 01 2009 06:59 PM

nvm

Kong76 May 01 2009 06:58 PM

Z: If you couple the ginger running to the lack of sliding you might think he's more concerned with not getting hurt than he is with playing the game <<< He slid under the tag.

Benjamin Grimm May 01 2009 06:59 PM

I hope Pelfrey has an easy inning here. He's already thrown 81 pitches. I can imagine Jerry leaving a struggling Pelfrey in too long in order to get the five innings. One. Two. Three. And then try to get him to pitch the sixth, too.

Zvon May 01 2009 07:01 PM

="Kong76"]Z: If you couple the ginger running to the lack of sliding you might think he's more concerned with not getting hurt than he is with playing the game <<< He slid under the tag. Yea, he slid there. Nice to see him playing the game.

Kong76 May 01 2009 07:04 PM

So he didn't slide another time and he's not interested?

Zvon May 01 2009 07:08 PM

Kong76 wrote: So he didn't slide another time and he's not interested? That's not for me to say. Ask him. I can only speculate, as I have. But if you play the game and the balls arriving at a base when you are, you slide. And he slid that time. Yay!

Benjamin Grimm May 01 2009 07:09 PM

Through 5 innings, Pelfrey's thrown 95 pitches. Six is the most we'll get out of him. He'll get more Schaefer from me if he finishes six. (He'll get something for the hitting regardless.)

Kong76 May 01 2009 07:11 PM

Beltran steals second. Slides.

Zvon May 01 2009 07:14 PM

Kong76 wrote: Beltran steals second. Slides. He had a great jump there too. Looked fast.

Kong76 May 01 2009 07:16 PM

Don't make me throw my sneaker over there, Z.

Zvon May 01 2009 07:21 PM

Kong76 wrote: Don't make me throw my sneaker over there, Z. lol Pelf hits the shelf with one out, two on in the 6th.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 07:24 PM

Holy shit! What a break!

Zvon May 01 2009 07:24 PM

WOOT! CRAZY PLAY ALERT!

seawolf17 May 01 2009 07:25 PM

Wow, that was ugly. I was sure the Phillies were somehow scoring two runs there, but instead they get nothing. Come on, Feliciano. Give me one more out.

Kong76 May 01 2009 07:26 PM

That was bizarre, could of been disaterous if that throw to second sailed another foot to the right.

Zvon May 01 2009 07:27 PM

Phils talking heads say Reyes will get an error on that. That so? Or a FC? That was quick thinking by Reyes to try at third after the bobble.

seawolf17 May 01 2009 07:27 PM

Nice. A goose egg on the scoreboard for Pedro. Gary: "If Coste breaks for the plate right away, I think he makes it." Yes, he does, because I don't think there was anyone covering home plate, unless Feliciano was there. Stuttering gave Santos time to get back into position, and Dobbs' bad decision exacerbated the situation.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 07:27 PM

Kong76 wrote: That was bizarre, could of been even more so if that throw to second sailed another foot to the right. Just what I thought -- that had little league 2-run triple written all over it.

Zvon May 01 2009 07:29 PM

seawolf17 wrote: Yes, he does, because I don't think there was anyone covering home plate, unless Feliciano was there. Stuttering gave Santos time to get back into position, and Dobbs' bad decision exacerbated the situation. I do think you are correct sir.

seawolf17 May 01 2009 07:29 PM

Kong76 wrote: That was bizarre, could of been disaterous if that throw to second sailed another foot to the right. Absolutely. Lots of ways for the Mets to screw that up, but the Phillies just screwed it up worse. And yes, that's definitely an error on Reyes, because it allowed Coste to reach third.

Zvon May 01 2009 07:30 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ="Kong76"]That was bizarre, could of been even more so if that throw to second sailed another foot to the right. Just what I thought -- that had little league 2-run triple written all over it. Did you get a sinking feeling in your stomach that went away as soon as he gloved it? If you did, your a Met fan.

Zvon May 01 2009 07:36 PM

Ha. They walk Feliciano. Go go Jose.

Fman99 May 01 2009 07:36 PM

Wow, Mets pitchers getting it done at the dish tonight. Let's see a clutch hit. Ihave visions of the 3 HR game Reyes had here a few years back.

Zvon May 01 2009 07:46 PM

Utley homered? I leave the room for a minute..... DAMN YOU UTLEY !!!*swings fist in air*

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 07:46 PM

Rough night for Reyes, he's still trying to find his game too I think.

Zvon May 01 2009 07:53 PM

Putz for the 8th.

Fman99 May 01 2009 07:58 PM

So far so good. Putz throwing strikes. Crappy Miguel Cairo at the dish to pinch hit.

Zvon May 01 2009 07:59 PM

Thank you, Mr. Putz, for a scoreless 8th.

Fman99 May 01 2009 08:01 PM

The Amstel commercial is the current winner of the "overplayed and super-irritating SNY advertisement."

metirish May 01 2009 08:02 PM

Fman99 wrote: The Amstel commercial is the current winner of the "overplayed and super-irritating SNY advertisement." Didn't it just recently come back after not been played for a while...maybe it's played during the season... thumbsahemina...

Kong76 May 01 2009 08:05 PM

I wish they sold regular Amstel here. (edited five times, lol)

Fman99 May 01 2009 08:09 PM

Go Frankie. Put these fuckers to bed.

bmfc1 May 01 2009 08:10 PM

Come on. 3 up, 3 down. Don't give them any hope.

Fman99 May 01 2009 08:10 PM

Can of corn. One down. The Cryin Hawaiian is up.

Fman99 May 01 2009 08:16 PM

Beh. Two out walk to Utley. Ryan "Nostrils" Howard up.

Fman99 May 01 2009 08:20 PM

Put it in the books!

metirish May 01 2009 08:21 PM

"Poor Poor Pitiful Me"

themetfairy May 01 2009 08:22 PM

Whew!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 01 2009 08:22 PM

No cable-- listening on radio. TELL me he did the fist-pump, point-to-God thing. (I bought tickets for tomorrow three months ago; at least 30 percent of that was the prospect of witnessing the super-histrionic fist-pump, point-to-God business in CBP.)

Zvon May 01 2009 08:24 PM

Took a lot of pitches for that 9th, but he got it done. Mets win the 1st game of this series. I want a sweep!

Kong76 May 01 2009 08:25 PM

I only watched parts, did Cora suck?

Zvon May 01 2009 08:31 PM

Kong76 wrote: I only watched parts, did Cora suck? Cora only half sucked.

Frayed Knot May 01 2009 08:35 PM

THOUGHTS ON THE GAME!!!! (only kidding) - I can't believe Utley's HR left the park. Looked like a jam-job pop fly to me. - That Chinese fire-drill of a play was obviously huge. Someone said that the throw was a foot from sailing over Reyes's leap and two runs insta-Philly runs but did you notice that both Beltran & either Church or Cora were backing up and in perfect position for any overthrow? Nice group effort there. - Re: Beltran tagging and his slow start: I think he was sort of reading how Werth fielded that ball and was ready to slam on the brakes if he didn't like how it was developing. But going all out was the right move there. I sometimes wonder about Beltran's instincts. He'll make 10 smart plays and then throw in a real klunker.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 08:37 PM

Kong76 wrote: I only watched parts, did Cora suck? I'll tellya what. He's not gonna make anyone forget Edgardo Alfonzo but I like him as a reserve so far. He's made plays in the field in these past few games that Damian Easley could only dream of making. And he's not much more than a singles hitter offensively but he appears to have an idea of what he's doing up there, unlike, say, David Newhan or something.

Frayed Knot May 01 2009 08:37 PM

Bet the Angles want Frankie Rod back right about now. Brian Fuentes blows the save in da Bronx without even getting an out.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 08:38 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: THOUGHTS ON THE GAME!!!! ( - That Chinese fire-drill of a play was obviously huge. Someone said that the throw was a foot from sailing over Reyes's leap and two runs insta-Philly runs but did you notice that both Beltran & either Church or Cora were backing up and in perfect position for any overthrow? Nice group effort there. That was Cora who made the leap. He was heads-up the whole play and did everything right.

Frayed Knot May 01 2009 08:42 PM

That's right, it was Cora cuz Reyes was in the hole. But Beltran was directly in line for an overthrow and Church was right behind him. Nice sign even if it never came into play.

soupcan May 01 2009 08:43 PM

Fman99 wrote: Ryan "Nostrils" Howard up. My son calls him 'Dog Nose'.

metirish May 01 2009 09:17 PM

Keith calls Cora a " great professional" , which means what? 1) - you suck but you're a good guy 2) you couldn't hit spuds to ducks so I'm going to say something nice about you 3) you're all glove.........but a great pro 4) who is he again?

Edgy DC May 01 2009 10:16 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="batmagadanleadoff"]So what are the odds Cora gets on base in his next at-bat, being that he walked his first time up? He's due for some out-making. That's not how probability works. That's what I was getting at earlier, but I supposedly wasn't getting a joke.

Edgy DC May 01 2009 10:27 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ="Kong76"]I only watched parts, did Cora suck? I'll tellya what. He's not gonna make anyone forget Edgardo Alfonzo but I like him as a reserve so far. Maybe Desi Relaford with better hands and less power? Maybe Bob Bailor but more acrobatic. Whatever, I like his game also.

MFS62 May 02 2009 06:22 AM

From various player-written or ghosted books and interviews over the yeats, being called "professional" by another can mean any or all of: Works hard Hustles Doesn't complain or call out his manager Doesn't make mental mistakes - at bat, in the field or on the basepaths In the field, wants the ball to be hit at him Wouldn't say "Shit" if he had a mouthful (direct quote - Bouton or Brosnan books) Later

soupcan May 02 2009 09:55 AM

metirish wrote: 2) you couldn't hit spuds to ducks... Somebody help me out here.