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Swan Swan H
Apr 21 2009 08:37 PM

Next to baseball, hockey is my favorite game to watch, and playoff hockey is to regular season hockey what Peter Luger is to Sizzler.

Some of you may regard this post in the same manner as you did the guy who used to post wrestling results. I hope there are a few other puckheads who will stop here and give their thoughts.

Tonight the Devils were down 3-0 to the Carolina Hurricanes in the waning seconds of the second period. The Devils scored with under 30 seconds left in the second, and tied it up with a bit over 11 minutes left in the third.

In the last few seconds of regulation Devils goalie Martin Brodeur skated out in front of the crease. He was backed into by Jussi Jokinen, lost his balance for a split second, and Jokinen deflected in the winning goal with under one second left. Series now tied 2-2, heading back to NJ.

The Rangers were given little chance by he experts against Alex Ovechkin and the powerful Washington Capitals, but won the first game in Washington, knocking veteran goalie Jose Theodore out as starter for game 2. Simeon Varlamov, who will turn 21 next week, stepped in and did a great job in game 2, but Henrik Lundqvist was a bit better in a 1-0 win.

The Rangers came back to MSG up 2-0, but Washington played like they were expected to in game 3, and won 4-0. Game 4 tomorrow, and if Washington wins handily it may be the beginning of the end for the Rangers. A Rangers win could be enough to propel them through the series. I'm soaking my thumb in preparation for tomorrow night's picture-in-picturefest.

In two matchups of bitter rivals the Penguins are leading the Flyers three games to one, and the Bruins, the top seed in the East, lead the Canadiens 3-0.

The Sharks and Red Wings were the dominant teams in the West, but are going in opposite directions in the playoffs. The first seeded Sharks are down 2-0 to the eighth seeded Ducks, a veteran team that won the Cup just a couple of years back, but played an indifferent regular season. The second seeded Red Wings are having no such trouble, up 3-0 against Columbus, in the playoffs for the first time since joining the NHL in 2000.

In other West matchups the Canucks lead the Blues, who were surprise qualifiers, 3-0, and the teams are tied tonight in the third period. The Blackhawks lead the Flames 2-1 in a series that likely still has a long way to go.

themetfairy
Apr 21 2009 08:44 PM

I like hockey. I'm more of a casual fan (as opposed to how I feel about baseball), but I enjoy watching it. The Islanders are my favorite team, but I've been known to pull for the Rangers or the Devils if the Isles are out of it (anyone but the phucking Flyers).

And yes - playoff hockey is a whole different breed.

Thanks for the playoff updates.

Swan Swan H
Apr 21 2009 09:02 PM

Blues, one goal from elimination but refusing to go quietly, take the Canucks to overtime.

Willets Point
Apr 21 2009 09:03 PM

I like hockey but its one of those things that's been relegated by not having enough time to pay attention to. I should check out the playoffs tho since the Bruins are involved.

metirish
Apr 21 2009 09:09 PM

Few sports are better on a big screen HD set , Doc Emerik calling it just makes it better.

Rangers fan here , have my Graves #9 from Crosby's out for luck. I hope the Rangers learned from last year against the Pens.

Apart from Rangers games I'll watch the western league games , I just love the openness of how they play the game .

Swan Swan H
Apr 21 2009 09:14 PM

Absolutely, Irish. I won't switch to FIOS because they don't carry Rangers games in HD. I hate Cablevision for that, but I'd miss it too much.

Doc is the best. I have a soft spot for Sam Rosen, but Emrick is on his own plane. Doc and JD on the old national broadcasts were as good as it got.

metirish
Apr 21 2009 09:19 PM

This call gives me goose bumps....our own Howie of course , just to get you in the mood

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Islanders have a huge pick coming up , a pick that could help keep them on Long Island.

Swan Swan H
Apr 21 2009 09:23 PM

Thanks for that - next to the actual cup winning moment that's the best. I missed it - I was camping with my son's Scout troop, but my friend had a radio and we heard the score a few minutes after it happened.

Lots of chatter about Tavares stock dropping - bad attitude, sense of entitlement, selfish play. Lately, even when the Islanders win they can't win.

metirish
Apr 21 2009 09:26 PM

Yeah the pressure is on them to pick Tavares , he's the sexy pick and not for nothing if you pick a Euro number # he had better not miss, and a defensive player at that....

themetfairy
Apr 21 2009 09:27 PM

I was living on the West Side when the Rangers won the cup. It was one of those times when everyone was honking their horns and the whole place was a big street fair :)

Frayed Knot
Apr 21 2009 09:37 PM

I used to be a pretty big hockey fan but have hardly watched/followed for several years now.
Still like the sport (used to play a bit) it's just the league that drives me nuts.
Would be a better sport with a league about 2/3 the size, the season about 2/3 as long, about 2/3 as many playoff teams (are you starting to sense a pattern here?).

But I suppose those complaints are for a different thread.
Playoff hockey is fun.

seawolf17
Apr 21 2009 09:44 PM

="Willets Point":30w5jis2]I like hockey but its one of those things that's been relegated by not having enough time to pay attention to. I should check out the playoffs tho since the Bruins are involved.[/quote:30w5jis2]
I'm the same way, except with the Flyers.

OlerudOwned
Apr 22 2009 12:20 PM

I'd even call myself a bigger hockey fan than baseball fan. But why choose?

If the Rangers don't stick it to Varlamov early tonight, this series might get away quickly.

Swan Swan H
Apr 22 2009 01:08 PM

When there were 16 of 21 teams making the playoffs it was way too many. 16 of 30 is about the same proportion as basketball, which does not necessarily mean it is not still too many.

Football does 12 of 32, and baseball is 8 of 30. Either of those sounds about right to me. I understand the need for revenue, and the excitement of the playoff push, but having to potentially play 28 games after the season is completed is a bit too much.

OO, I agree that they really can't play from behind against the Caps - a quick start is critical, if not essential. A loss for the Rangers tonight and I don't see an easy way to get back in this series.

Looks like the Blues hung in there last night, but they're the first team eliminated. Making the tournament was a bit of an achievement for this team, and I'm happy for JD that they are making progress.

TheOldMole
Apr 22 2009 01:10 PM

Hockey's great with HD.

The Rangers winning two from the Caps, and shutting down their scorers for two games, was amazing. I don't expect them to win the series (especially with the puck in their zone for 2/3 of the game), but they're putting up a good fight.

Swan Swan H
Apr 22 2009 06:16 PM

Washington's Varlamov gave up only one goal on a wacky deflection in the first period, but Lundqvist allowed nothing. Early in the second Varlamov muffed a rebound and Drury was able to put it over his shoulder from a very skinny angle. The Rangers just killed off another penalty, and lead 2-0 five minutes into the second.

metirish
Apr 22 2009 06:19 PM

That first period was as good a period as I have seen in a while , end to end stuff especially the last ten minutes.


Could do without Maloney piping in from the sidelines every time something happens , hey Dave I can see the game.

Swan Swan H
Apr 22 2009 07:01 PM

Lundqvist still solid, and the Rangers are scrapping like mad. That save on Semin was sweet - he picked it off his earhole. 2-0 as they drop the puck for the third.

You can see the steam coming out of Ovechkin's ears.

Swan Swan H
Apr 22 2009 07:16 PM

Well, I guess the Rangers weren't going to hold Ovechkin scoreless forever. What an effort, 1-on-2, picked a spot on the far corner the size of a nickel. 2-1 NYR, 10 minutes left, but the Caps are buzzing.

metirish
Apr 22 2009 08:01 PM

Great win, I felt tonight that if the Rangers did't win they were in big trouble. Also the manner in which they won was pleasing. The Rangers can win low scoring games but I get worried when are in a goalfest .

Swan Swan H
Apr 22 2009 08:04 PM

The Rangers hang on to take a 3-1 lead in the series. Watching the third period was like standing on a ledge, as the Rangers had to kill off two boneheaded penalties by Sean Avery, the last with just over three minutes left.

Meanwhile, the Canadiens join the Blues in the Losers Lounge, swept in there by Boston. Game 4-1, series 4-0. If the Rangers can hold on they will face the Bruins in the second round.

metirish
Apr 22 2009 08:12 PM

Some Original Six playoff hockey would be cool. I hope Red Sox aren't playing you know who at the same time because there will be endless media BS and heaven knows Francesa might see fit to mention the hockey.

Swan Swan H
Apr 22 2009 08:27 PM

Really. What Francesa knows about hockey you could write on the edge of the puck with a paint roller.

Too bad Detroit and Chicago can't meet next round. Having four of the six paired up would be nice.

Swan Swan H
Apr 24 2009 11:42 AM

Well, the Blue Jackets join the Blues and Canadiens on the first tee, swept by the powerful Red Wings.

Marty Brodeur and Cam Ward combined for an insane 85 shots in last night's Devils-Hurricanes game. I didn't see any of it (I was at the movie theater showing of the live broadcast of This American Life) but from all reports it was as exciting as a 1-0 game can get. Devils up 3-2 in the series.

The first seeded Sharks are in real trouble, beaten 4-0 by Anaheim and down 3-1 in the series. Jonas Hiller, who has played less than 70 NHL games, has been amazing.

Swan Swan H
Apr 24 2009 09:30 PM

4-0 Capitals over the Rangers. The big news before the game was that Sean Avery was scratched. His lack of control was something Tortorella couldn't risk. After the flat performance tonight I'd think his grit is something they will have to have in the lineup for game 6, with the hope that he keeps it at a simmer.

The Capitals have put the Rangers into a situation that feels a lot like the 1986 NLCS. The Rangers are leading 3-2, but it feels as if a loss in game 6 would lead directly to a loss in game 7, and, of course, the series.

Game 6 is scheduled for 2 PM Sunday at MSG. If the Caps win they go home for game 7, with a packed house and huge momentum. It will be very interesting to see how the Rangers respond, and whether Avery is given a chance to make good.

metirish
Apr 25 2009 06:17 AM

I hated that Torterella scratched Avery , a dumb move by a coach that I think is too smart by half at times. The Rangers still had 7 penalties and some dumb ones at that , plus not for nothing but Tortorella throwing a bottle into the stands and having at it with some fans is really fucking dumb and the kind of thing he would bench Avery for.

Avery's game doesn't seem to translate that well to playoff hockey , I think his bad rep goes before him though.

Swan Swan H
Apr 25 2009 08:25 AM

Irish, do you think he puts Avery back in for game 6? I think he has no choice, and I think he should. Get him in there, and if he can't keep it under wraps he sits next to Orr and they move up Sjostrom or Korpikoski.

But the question is not if he should - do you think he will?

metirish
Apr 25 2009 09:55 AM

I think he will , if nothing else the Garden faithful will demand it.

Swan Swan H
Apr 25 2009 08:39 PM

Well, he may make the decision but he won't be behind the bench. Tortorella was suspended for game 6 as punishment for an altercation with a fan. Apparently he squirted the fan with water, the fan dumped a drink on Tortorella, and then Torts threw a water bottle into the stands. As the game ended he waved a stick toward the fan, but it was pretty clear he was in full 'Hold me back' mode there.

Wow. The Rangers only have two coaches on the bench (three is standard) so I would assume Jim Schoenfeld will run the bench. Mike Pelino worked the bench with Tom Renney, so I guess he'll step in to help.

So, do the Rangers rally around their leader, or does the distraction prove to be too much? Can Schoenfeld and Pelino keep Sean Avery in control and productive? And what about Naomi?

metirish
Apr 25 2009 08:57 PM

Tortorella has always struck me as the type of coach that players don't like , I don't think any of the Rangers players see him as their leader. For some reason Tortorella reminds me of Joe Girardi.

metirish
Apr 26 2009 09:06 PM

I have about as little confidence for this game seven as possible, so maybe I will be surprised.

Swan Swan H
Apr 27 2009 08:12 AM

I have to agree, Irish. Here's hoping for a surprise, but I don't think they have it in them.

The Devils had a chance to put it away last night, but they're coming back home for their game 7 and should probably get the job done.

metirish
Apr 28 2009 10:54 AM

Raissman has a spot on article today.

] Rangers & Devils get local cold shoulder Considering the recent protests (verbal or via U.S. mail) Glen Sather has directed at Gary Bettman, it would not be surprising if the Rangers' boss is also twisted over the NHL scheduling Tuesday's Game No. 7 with Washington a half-hour before the Devils Game 7 face off with Carolina in Jersey. This should be a bigger concern for Sather's boss James (Guitar Jimmy) Dolan. The Cablevision chief is more in tune to the television business. It is a rare occurrence when two locals play a Game 7 the same evening on two networks owned by one of the team's owners. Tuesday, Dolan's MSG (Rangers) and MSG (Devils) is where the action is. This is the kind of dream scenario Dolan may have envisioned when he opened his vault to lock up TV rights for all three local hockey teams. The dream didn't include competing Game 7's. On a Game 7 night when hockey might actually attract the casual fan, the key to juicing TV ratings, the last thing Dolan wants is the Rangers and Devils, on his two networks, competing for eyeballs. Game 7's contested on separate nights would obviously maximize MSG's ratings. Fans of each team, who love hockey, would migrate to the other's do-or-die contest unless, of course, they also have eyes for baseball. There's the rub. Can you imagine the hysteria here if the Yankees and Mets were each involved in a playoff Game 7 the same night? See the screaming newspaper headlines. Hear apoplectic windbags on sports talk radio along with Armageddon-like setups from bellowing TV tapeheads. The baseball version of Tuesday is not likely to happen. The games would be airing nationally. A network, Fox or TBS, would be reluctant to agree to have dueling Game 7's. So would Bud (Nutty Professor) Selig and his TV brainiacs. No one, at least no one in touch with reality, is surprised by the lack of media buzz for Tuesday's double dose of drama. There is a kind of hush. The local disregard for hockey has become reminiscent of the days when radio stations played the same hit over and over again. Compelling stories are secondary to what sells - the sure thing. This just in: The media is a business, too. Now, ink, Internet and airspace are gobbled up by King Baseball. Even Tuesday, these Game7's will be challenged, and probably out-rated, by early season baseball (Yankees-Tigers on YES and Marlins-Mets on SNY). Relative obscurity does have its benefits. Examine the case of the Rangers. A loss Tuesday means a collapse of monumental proportion. Remember, they stormed the Beltway, taking the first two games. Some mouths saw a clear road ahead Yet even if the Rangers are defeated Tuesday, completing the gag job, there will not be intense media scrutiny. There will be none of the lingering recapitulation of collapse and failure that's accompanied the Mets the past two years. Nor will the Blueshirts take the kind of pounding the Yankees did after blowing a 3-0 lead to Boston in the 2004 ALCS. After a loss, the Rangers could skulk out of town under cover of media apathy. Don't look for much follow-up. Editors will not be sending reporters - as they do when the Yankees exit - to stake out the locker room and watch players dump their belongings in garbage bags. The media would put the Rangers out with the morning trash. If they should lose Tuesday, the Rangers would not leave totally unscathed, though. If Sather TiVo'd NBC's coverage of Sunday's Game 6, he may have been looking to file another protest. Sather could not be thrilled with NBC portraying his organization as dysfunctional. Nor could Sather be happy about his team being characterized as quitters. Still, all NBC's NHL voices did was let the facts and pictures speak for themselves. Doc Emrick did not draw any conclusions when he reported John Tortorella's decision to bench Sean Avery for Game 5. When reporting Tortorella's Game 6 suspension for (water) bottle tossing and playing Zorro with a hockey stick, Emrick did not refer to the Rangers' coach as a hypocrite. Nor did he recite some of the more bizarre elements included in Sather's memo to Bettman concerning the alleged lack of security provided by Washington for Game 5. All Emrick did was state the facts. All NBC did, in the second period, was zoom in on the vacant expressions along the Rangers' bench. Pierre McGuire provided the caption, saying: "Where is somebody stepping up to carry the mantle? Who is pumping one another up? That's a thousand-yard stare." Not to worry. Considering the Rangers' status, the image won't be lasting. And if it appears Tuesday, it can be avoided. By switching to the Devils game.


Question - Who are the NHL rooting for in the Rangers against Caps game tonight , do they root for the sublime talents of Alex Ovechkinn or do they root for the Rangers and a Original Six matchup?

Frayed Knot
Apr 28 2009 11:10 AM

The NHL & Dolan have to realize that
a) they can't be re-scheduling games and stretching out this already stretched-out playoff season simply so that one owner controlling the TV fortunes of two teams can further capitalize on his mini-monopoly
and
b) that when you have 8 potential game sevens in one round that some of them are going to conflict

Raissman's not wrong in bringing up the fact that this is hardly ideal for NYC-area puckheads but I don't think the media needs to scream for Bettman to intervene here. If the NHL wants the benefits of allowing 16 teams in the playoffs they're going to have to take the downside too.

Swan Swan H
Apr 28 2009 11:10 AM

I think it's Washington, no question. They have been pimping Crosby and Ovechkin since the beginning of the playoffs.

HahnSolo
Apr 28 2009 11:46 AM

="metirish":1gh8qqfc]I have about as little confidence for this game seven as possible, so maybe I will be surprised.[/quote:1gh8qqfc]

Me neither (confidence). With the exception of Henrik, they've been outplayed--thoroughly--since game 1.

Swan Swan H
Apr 28 2009 05:23 PM

The Rangers are playing with a lot of drive, and get the first goal around six minutes in off of a gorgeous pass.

The fans sitting behind the Rangers bench are wearing ponchos. Hee. The arena crew put up plastic panels to block the gaps in the glass, which should prevent the silliness that happened in game 5.

Devils start at 7:30.

metirish
Apr 28 2009 07:09 PM

Still tied with 11 minutes left.this is squeaky bum time.

Swan Swan H
Apr 28 2009 07:34 PM

Well, they weren't blown out like everyone thought they would be, but Lundqvist gets beat high glove once again and it's a 2-1 Washington final. The Caps will fave the Devils if they win, or Pittsburgh if Carolina wins. Any chance Crosby-Ovechkin makes the NBC game Sunday, if it happens?

The Devils start the third period leading 3-2, to the dismay of league and network execs.

metirish
Apr 28 2009 07:37 PM

Capitals win it on a screened shot from the great Sergei Fedorov. Hard to win a game though when you don't even get shots on goal, where were the rangers big time players? Drury is a shadow of the player he was when in Buffalo , I never liked Gomez. Ryan Callahan should be team captain next season .

I'm pissed , not tuning into Steve Somers later.

metirish
Apr 30 2009 08:06 AM

Thoughts overall Swanie?

Found this interesting bit on the paper today...

] Some current players - and pending free agents - might not want to deal with Tortorella's personality and "conflict is good" agenda. One thing is certain: Tortorella will help shape personnel decisions, and it's clear he wants scoring, speed and size and will run a brutal training camp to install his system, which he didn't have time to implement.

Swan Swan H
Apr 30 2009 07:15 PM

The Rangers showed enough effort in game 7, for sure, but scoring one or two goals is a tough way to win. Shame that the first Caps goal was a deflection off of Callahan - he deserved better.

Worse for the Devils, who gave up two goals in the last 80 seconds to lose their game 7 at home. They must have felt it was in their pocket.

The young guys can be the core of a pretty good Rangers team for a while, but Redden's contract is a huge anchor. He seems to have nothing left and no passion whatsoever. Maybe the worst signing of the Sather era, and that's saying something.

That Tortorella quote is interesting. I know he burned out just about everyone in the Tampa dressing room, but I have to say that a player that can't deal with him probably isn't tough enough to succeed in the NHL. A scoring wing has to know he'll get first line and power play time with this club, and probably get to play with a scrapper who will do the digging in the corners (Callahan or Dubinsky) and a fine puck-mover and passer in Gomez. On D, signing Gilroy was like getting an extra draft pick, and Sanguinetti may be ready for next year as well.

As long as Lundqvist is in net they always have a chance.,I think the Rangers can get younger and better next year, but it's not going to be easy without at least one 40 goal guy.

TheOldMole
May 01 2009 08:08 AM

What coach doesn't want scoring, speed and size?

I'll root for the young Caps the rest of the way, hope Redden gets some fire back, like Fernando Tatis, and go Rangers! next year.

Frayed Knot
Jun 02 2009 07:34 PM

Seeing the Pittsburgh fans all dressed up in white while the opposition is wearing white looks more than a bit goofy.

Triple Dee
Jun 03 2009 06:50 AM

Hockey is dead to me.

Edgy DC
Jun 03 2009 07:17 AM

Hockey.

June.

Swan Swan H
Jun 23 2009 02:02 PM

I don't want to start another hockey thread, since about three people here give a hoot about it anyway, but they announced the 2009 Hockey Hall of Fame class today, and I am grinning like a kid at the news that Brian Leetch made it on his first try.

I always thought he exemplified so many good characteristics as a player and a person, and you'd have to dig under every rock from here to Toronto to find someone to say a bad word about him. He was tough without being a goon, unselfish as can be until the team needed him to score a goal, and despite his reputation as an offensive defenseman he was an excellent defender, using his speed and smarts to get the job done. On a team full of stars he was the guy who was the playoff MVP when the Rangers finally won the Stanley Cup in 1994.

Leetch never really settled into the role of following Messier as captain of the Rangers and gladly gave back the 'C' when Messier returned, but if that's the only knock on you you've had a great career.

He was my Dad's favorite player for many years, and he wore his blue Leetch jersey, the only player's jersey in any sport he ever wanted, with pride.

Steve Yzerman, Brett Hull and Luc Robitaille are the other players elected, and all were locks to make it as well. A hell of a class, this one.

metirish
Jun 23 2009 02:44 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 23 2009 05:14 PM

Nice one Swanie. Loved Leetch a lot , it's a cliche because it's true but he bled Rangers blue. IIRC he was injured when the Maple Leafs came to MSG and quite some time had passed when he finally made it back and played.


At the time I absolutely was gutted he was traded but even then i knew it was the right move and the players those draft picks have turned into( Lauri Korpikoski and Michael Sauer ) I think will bear that out.

Great player and yeah that's one great group this year. I wished I got to see more of Steve Yzerman , it's one of the things I like most about Versus , they show a lot of western League games.

SteveJRogers
Jun 23 2009 04:33 PM

="Swan Swan H":2xwmyv36]I don't want to start another hockey thread, since about three people here give a hoot about it anyway, but they announced the 2009 Hockey Hall of Fame class today, and I am grinning like a kid at the news that Brian Leetch made it on his first try. I always thought he exemplified so many good characteristics as a player and a person, and you'd have to dig under every rock from here to Toronto to find someone to say a bad word about him. He was tough without being a goon, unselfish as can be until the team needed him to score a goal, and despite his reputation as an offensive defenseman he was an excellent defender, using his speed and smarts to get the job done. On a team full of stars he was the guy who was the playoff MVP when the Rangers finally won the Stanley Cup in 1994. Leetch never really settled into the role of following Messier as captain of the Rangers and gladly gave back the 'C' when Messier returned, but if that's the only knock on you you've had a great career. He was my Dad's favorite player for many years, and he wore his blue Leetch jersey, the only player's jersey in any sport he ever wanted, with pride. Steve Yzerman, Brett Hull and Luc Robitaille are the other players elected, and all were locks to make it as well. A hell of a class, this one.[/quote:2xwmyv36]

The architect of the Devils, Lou Lamoriello, also gets in as a builder.

Great group.

metirish
Jun 23 2009 04:42 PM

John Davidson in too.

Frayed Knot
Jun 23 2009 05:12 PM

="metirish":fc75g59h]John Davidson in too.[/quote:fc75g59h]

As what, an announcer I guess?

JD was a good, though not great, goaltender in his day and hasn't been an exec long enough to qualify there.

metirish
Jun 23 2009 05:56 PM

Yep , from the bit I read

] Davidson was selected as the Foster Hewitt Memorial Award recipient for outstanding contributions as a hockey broadcaster. Davidson served as the Rangers' color analyst for more than 20 years following his playing career


I remember one year JD it seemed was doing a hockey game every night, it was the Winter Olympics and he anchored the coverage for that, did a great job but it also burned him out a bit. I don't recall the specifics but JD covered an ungodly amount of games that season.

MFS62
Jun 23 2009 06:07 PM

Is Dennis Potvin in?

Later

seawolf17
Jun 23 2009 06:11 PM

="metirish":zrc5uv43]John Davidson in too.[/quote:zrc5uv43]
Nice. I loved Hollywood Squares growing up.

(just kidding)

Willets Point
Jun 23 2009 06:17 PM

Geez, I thought the NHL playoffs may still be going on when I saw this thread.

metirish
Jun 23 2009 06:31 PM

There ought to be a law against this you know , coming in here to harass us .

SteveJRogers
Jun 23 2009 07:44 PM

="Frayed Knot"]
="metirish"]John Davidson in too.
As what, an announcer I guess? JD was a good, though not great, goaltender in his day and hasn't been an exec long enough to qualify there.


Uh-oh FK...say something funny there!

JD is getting essentially the Hockey equivalent of the Ford Frick award.

SteveJRogers
Jun 23 2009 07:45 PM

="MFS62":avnygbnz]Is Dennis Potvin in? Later[/quote:avnygbnz]

No, but Denis Povtin is, Class of 1991.

metirish
Jun 23 2009 07:53 PM

="SteveJRogers"]
="Frayed Knot"]
="metirish"]John Davidson in too.
As what, an announcer I guess? JD was a good, though not great, goaltender in his day and hasn't been an exec long enough to qualify there.
Uh-oh FK...say something funny there! JD is getting essentially the Hockey equivalent of the Ford Frick award.



I'm lost , no idea what you are on about there with FK.

Frayed Knot
Jun 23 2009 08:01 PM

I don't either, but I know better than to ask for explanations.
To get one usually raises more questions than it answers.

Swan Swan H
Jun 23 2009 08:02 PM

="SteveJRogers"]
="MFS62"]Is Dennis Potvin in? Later
No, but Denis Povtin is, Class of 1991.


You realize that while you were smart-assing MFS62 you spelled Denis Potvin's LAST name wrong. Jeets, do you have to work at being an annoying little shit, or does it just come naturally to you?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 23 2009 08:22 PM

It's really remarkable.

SteveJRogers
Jun 24 2009 06:23 AM

="Frayed Knot":1s1j5g3p]I don't either, but I know better than to ask for explanations. To get one usually raises more questions than it answers.[/quote:1s1j5g3p]

Russo/Francesa-ism when talking about merits of players.

SteveJRogers
Jun 24 2009 06:24 AM

="Swan Swan H"]
="SteveJRogers"]
="MFS62"]Is Dennis Potvin in? Later
No, but Denis Povtin is, Class of 1991.
You realize that while you were smart-assing MFS62 you spelled Denis Potvin's LAST name wrong. Jeets, do you have to work at being an annoying little shit, or does it just come naturally to you?


Do you have to work on being an annoying big asshole or does it come naturally to you?

Swan Swan H
Jun 24 2009 07:32 AM

Just calling 'em as I see 'em. There were three ways to answer MFS62's question without being annoying, yet still showing that you knew the valuable information of how a retired hockey player's parents decided to spell his first name:

1) Just answer the question in a format such as "Yes, in 1991." It doesn't feed your ego, but it answers the man's question.
2) Quote MFS62 and correct the spelling in the quote without bringing it up, then answer the question as in example 1 above.
3) Spell the name correctly in your answer without comment, such as, "Yes, Denis Potvin was elected in 1991."

There was one way to be an insufferable twit, and that's the way you went. And. deliciously, in jumping on the innocent error of using the more common American spelling of 'Dennis' rather then the French-Canadian variant 'Denis,' you, in your haste to be Stevie Know-It-All, made a typo. Ah, Karma.

Oh, I almost forgot to answer your question. My assholiness sits dormant until there is a need for it to appear. When I am insulted, here it comes raging indignant, yet with just that little touch of self-awareness, like Groucho Marx when he is called an upstart in Duck Soup. When I see one of your posts it begins to stir, and when you reach into your bag of dick for a post like the one we are discussing, WHAMMO!

Kong76
Jun 24 2009 03:49 PM

Not to be adminey, and not to cherry pick (I haven't posted since Sunday),
but I find it amusing that SJJeets can bring out the fire even in posters who
are otherwise very even keeled.

He's alright, he bought me my last beer at Shea (even though it was for
someone else and he was tired of carrying it) and to me he's just another
nut among the many different kinds of nuts here and on other boards.

themetfairy
Jun 24 2009 04:27 PM

You drank my beer Kase....

Kong76
Jun 24 2009 05:07 PM

Yup

cooby
Jun 24 2009 08:13 PM

="Swan Swan H"]Just calling 'em as I see 'em. There were three ways to answer MFS62's question without being annoying, yet still showing that you knew the valuable information of how a retired hockey player's parents decided to spell his first name: 1) Just answer the question in a format such as "Yes, in 1991." It doesn't feed your ego, but it answers the man's question. 2) Quote MFS62 and correct the spelling in the quote without bringing it up, then answer the question as in example 1 above. 3) Spell the name correctly in your answer without comment, such as, "Yes, Denis Potvin was elected in 1991." There was one way to be an insufferable twit, and that's the way you went. And. deliciously, in jumping on the innocent error of using the more common American spelling of 'Dennis' rather then the French-Canadian variant 'Denis,' you, in your haste to be Stevie Know-It-All, made a typo. Ah, Karma. Oh, I almost forgot to answer your question. My assholiness sits dormant until there is a need for it to appear. When I am insulted, here it comes raging indignant, yet with just that little touch of self-awareness, like Groucho Marx when he is called an upstart in Duck Soup. When I see one of your posts it begins to stir, and when you reach into your bag of dick for a post like the one we are discussing, WHAMMO!

cooby
Jun 24 2009 08:13 PM

="cooby"]
="Swan Swan H"]Just calling 'em as I see 'em. There were three ways to answer MFS62's question without being annoying, yet still showing that you knew the valuable information of how a retired hockey player's parents decided to spell his first name: 1) Just answer the question in a format such as "Yes, in 1991." It doesn't feed your ego, but it answers the man's question. 2) Quote MFS62 and correct the spelling in the quote without bringing it up, then answer the question as in example 1 above. 3) Spell the name correctly in your answer without comment, such as, "Yes, Denis Potvin was elected in 1991." There was one way to be an insufferable twit, and that's the way you went. And. deliciously, in jumping on the innocent error of using the more common American spelling of 'Dennis' rather then the French-Canadian variant 'Denis,' you, in your haste to be Stevie Know-It-All, made a typo. Ah, Karma. Oh, I almost forgot to answer your question. My assholiness sits dormant until there is a need for it to appear. When I am insulted, here it comes raging indignant, yet with just that little touch of self-awareness, like Groucho Marx when he is called an upstart in Duck Soup. When I see one of your posts it begins to stir, and when you reach into your bag of dick for a post like the one we are discussing, WHAMMO!


Lol...the first time made me speechless

metirish
Jun 24 2009 08:21 PM

Swanie was like a Ron Francis slap shot with that post. Steve's posts in this thread are a prime example of him trying to entice an argument.

metirish
Jun 27 2009 09:47 AM

I watched a lot of the draft last night , got to say I am happy for the Islanders , not that I like them or anything but I would hate to see them move and I would like a better rivalry with the Rangers.

Meanwhile the Rangers top pick is a Red Sox but then let himself down with this sill response to a silly question

] A Red Sox fan, Kreider asked he would probably "root for the Yankees now.

Swan Swan H
Jun 27 2009 11:29 AM

The Rangers traded their fifth round pick to Pittsburgh for goaltender Chad Johnson. Three notes:

1) No word on whether Johnson wears #85
2) Johnson had a 1.66 goals against average for Alaska of the Central Central Collegiate Hockey Association - and a losing record. Talk about lack of support.
3) The Pens used the pick to select Andy Bathgate - the namesake and grandson of the Rangers' Hall of Famer.

Swan Swan H
Jun 28 2009 08:53 AM

I should have noted this in the last post, but Bathgate the Elder, in addition to his time with the Rangers, spent two seasons each with Toronto, Detroit, and, finally the Penguins, so there is a Pittsburgh connection to the Bathgate family as well.

Frayed Knot
Jun 28 2009 10:35 AM

ESPN listed that the sons of Ulf Samuelsson, Ray Ferraro, and Ray Borque were also drafted this week.
They didn't mention the grandson of Bathgate but that's probably only because no one there had ever heard of the elder Bathgate.

OlerudOwned
Jun 30 2009 04:11 PM

Holy frosted butts, the Rangers moved the Giant Pile of Money That is Scott Gomez for Chris Higgins and Montreal's top prospect. Habs fans melting down on the HFBoards. Rumors of Heatley swirling. Daaamn.

metirish
Jun 30 2009 04:37 PM

So happy to be rid of Gomez.......I severely disliked him over the years...like Holik before him he should never have been brought over.....

Swan Swan H
Jun 30 2009 05:47 PM

Wow. A steal. I can definitely see this leading to a Heatley deal.

metirish
Jun 30 2009 05:50 PM

Sather clearing cap space for a run at LeBron

Swan Swan H
Jun 30 2009 06:11 PM

Ha! Give him three months he'd probably become at least a second-pair defenseman.

DocTee
Jun 30 2009 10:12 PM

Not looking good for Heatley on Broadway:


[url:3euh039l]http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4298646[/url:3euh039l]

metirish
Jul 01 2009 01:02 PM

Donald Brashear to the Rangers in a two year deal.....are you kidding me Glen?

Colton Orr to Toronto in a four year deal.....Burke is an idiot.


Marian Hossa to Hawks in a supposedly 12 year deal....$62 million...another idiot GM

Swan Swan H
Jul 01 2009 01:40 PM

So I guess they're passing on re-signing Blair Betts, then.

metirish
Jul 01 2009 01:43 PM

="Swan Swan H":1xu70x4g]So I guess they're passing on re-signing Blair Betts, then.[/quote:1xu70x4g]


Yeah really , any Ranger fan will remember that "hit" in the playoffs

metirish
Jul 01 2009 02:33 PM

Excellent article on Brashear.....I never knew his great uncle was Carl Brashear , the guy Cuba Gooding played in the movie "Men of Honor".

Didn't know that Brashear had such a shitty childhood either

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/01/AR2009050104147.html?sid=ST2009050104383:3s1f1wa0]Brashear[/url:3s1f1wa0]

Nymr83
Jul 01 2009 03:28 PM

i just read that some hockey player, 30 years old, just got a TWELVE year deal??

Swan Swan H
Jul 01 2009 05:28 PM

="Nymr83":eelc5b8w]i just read that some hockey player, 30 years old, just got a TWELVE year deal??[/quote:eelc5b8w]

It's a salary cap avoidance technique. Teams spread out the scheduled payments way past the realistic life of the contract, then the cap hit on the buyout is not as harsh as the actual salary is today.

metirish
Jul 01 2009 07:55 PM

Yeeeeeeeeeeeees


] The Rangers finally landed the scorer that they've needed, signing Marian Gaborik to a five-year contract worth $7.5 million per season. Gaborik, formerly of the Minnesota Wild, has scored 219 goals in 502 game and scored 42 goals in the 2007-08 season. --Steve Zipay


Like this a lot....

Swan Swan H
Jul 01 2009 08:05 PM

If he plays 75 games he's exactly what this team needed.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 01 2009 10:00 PM

="Swan Swan H":31ya27t1]If he plays 75 games he's exactly what this team needed.[/quote:31ya27t1]

IF he plays 75 AND he doesn't get strangled by Coach DancesWithFans. (He brings considerable "dogging it"-type baggage, no?)