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IGT, May 2: Mets @ Phils

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 01 2009 09:04 PM

Sorry, starting this one early since I gotta be on the road Saturday. With Moyer going, I'd expect Castillo and Delgado continue to take the days off. Hopefully Ollie is adequate, that's all I ask. In the event my winning streak continues I nominate MetIrish to pick up the IGT mojo for Sunday's IGT, since I'll prolly miss the game start on that one too.

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2009 03:50 AM

Is it Ollie today? For some reason I was thinking it would be Maine.

metirish May 02 2009 05:50 AM

I'll gladly start the IGT Sunday.... Cone on Ollie

Edgy DC May 02 2009 06:07 AM

I wish Cone would get off of Ollie. He has a game to pitch.

metirish May 02 2009 06:12 AM

Damn....sorry Ollie

bmfc1 May 02 2009 10:26 AM

Tweets from [u:c3ffeb5e16]The Post[/u:c3ffeb5e16] and [u:c3ffeb5e16]Newsday[/u:c3ffeb5e16] say that Jerry has posted two lineups: one w/Delgado and one w/o. Castillo is in both. With Delgado: Reyes, ss Castillo, 2b Beltran, cf Wright, 3b Delgado, 1b Sheffield, rf Tatis, lf Castro, c Perez, lhp Without Delgado: Reyes, ss Castillo, 2b Beltran, cf Sheffield, rf Wright, 3b Tatis, 1b Murphy, lf Castro, c Perez, lhp

DocTee May 02 2009 10:56 AM

Castro and Ollie with much to prove

Kong76 May 02 2009 11:55 AM

Was kinda hoping to see Cora at SS. (ok, I'll stop)

bmfc1 May 02 2009 01:09 PM

Mets: Jose Reyes SS Luis Castillo 2B Carlos Beltran CF Gary Sheffield RF David Wright 3B Fernando Tatis 1B Daniel Murphy 1B Ramon Castro C Oliver Perez LHP (1-2, 9.31) Phillies: Shane Victorino CF Raul Ibanez LF Jayson Werth RF Ryan Howard 1B Jimmy Rollins SS Pedro Feliz 3B Eric Bruntlett 2B Carlos Ruiz C Jamie Moyer LHP (3-1, 5.09)

GYC May 02 2009 01:38 PM

I really hate Sheffield.

bmfc1 May 02 2009 01:42 PM

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metsguyinmichigan May 02 2009 01:50 PM

Dammit. I got all my yard work done by 3:30 so I could come in and watch the Mets. And instead we get the Tigers and Indians.

GYC May 02 2009 01:51 PM

Damnit, Ollie.

TheOldMole May 02 2009 01:54 PM

Two first basemen?

metsguyinmichigan May 02 2009 02:00 PM

I hope Ollie's new bride will adjust well as she moves from Manhattan to BUFFALO! Get his butt out of there! Tell me Jerry's got someone warming up already.

bmfc1 May 02 2009 02:02 PM

After last Sunday, did we really need to give Perez another start? I know he was successful against the Phillies last year but that's not a good reason to waste today's game.

metsguyinmichigan May 02 2009 02:05 PM

Lucky to get out of that with only two runs. We're gonna have to score a lot today.

Kong76 May 02 2009 02:05 PM

Eight men bat, they got two, but left 'em loaded. Bad Ollie, go shave that stupid looking beard NOW!!!

GYC May 02 2009 02:06 PM

Well, he worked with Johan and Warthen, and they had apparently found a mechanical error with his delivery. But that doesn't seem to be fixing shit.

metsguyinmichigan May 02 2009 02:20 PM

Castro and Ollie get hits, and Reyes feebly pops out with the bases full. Grr.

Kong76 May 02 2009 02:50 PM

It's raining bases on balls.

bmfc1 May 02 2009 02:55 PM

Great move Omar, giving Perez another start. Keep walking Ollie, all the way to Brooklyn for all I care.

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2009 03:11 PM

Can we get Oliver Perez to put on a Phillies cap? We can bribe him with pulled pork.

Kong76 May 02 2009 03:17 PM

I have to admit that I forgot that Takahashi was an available Met.

Edgy DC May 02 2009 03:33 PM

bmfc1 wrote: Great move Omar, giving Perez another start. Keep walking Ollie, all the way to Brooklyn for all I care. I don't blame Omar for the lineup card. Great bailout by Takahashi.

Kong76 May 02 2009 03:37 PM

Well yeah, and if you're gonna shout at Omar in an IGT ya might as well shout about the contract and not the start anyways. But that's another thread. Nice to see Takahashi more or less stop the bleeding. Bats still sleeping.

Kong76 May 02 2009 03:39 PM

Muffy hears me and goes yard!

Kong76 May 02 2009 03:41 PM

Castro hears me and goes yard!

bmfc1 May 02 2009 03:41 PM

BLASTRO! And it's a new game!

Kong76 May 02 2009 03:43 PM

Cora hears me and hits a triple!

Frayed Knot May 02 2009 03:45 PM

Nice 2-out/none-on rally: HR, HR, 3B Got rid of the old man - now we need at least one more hit here and we're really cooking with gas (whatever that means).

Frayed Knot May 02 2009 03:47 PM

Scott Eyre pitching like Jane (and who doesn't like a little literary humor on a Saturday afternoon?)

bmfc1 May 02 2009 03:53 PM

Something I never thought I'd say: when Eyre walked Reyes, I said that I rather have Castillo up.

metsguyinmichigan May 02 2009 03:54 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Can we get Oliver Perez to put on a Phillies cap? We can bribe him with pulled pork. Oh it would work. Trust me.

bmfc1 May 02 2009 04:36 PM

If Reed was the pinch runner, maybe he beats the throw.

Edgy DC May 02 2009 04:43 PM

Jeez, I went out to do yard work and nobody posted since then. Five-five in the ninth. Good game here as Wright walks with one out.

Edgy DC May 02 2009 04:50 PM

Amazing that Castro ended up getting pulled anyhow.

Kong76 May 02 2009 04:50 PM

bm: If Reed was the pinch runner, maybe he beats the throw. <<< Unless Reed was going to catch there's no point in burning two players when I think they're down to like one guy left on the bench (maybe two).

Kong76 May 02 2009 04:52 PM

Between your man crush on Castro and us all voting too high for starting pitching in the Shaefer thingie, you're on a bad roll this week.

bmfc1 May 02 2009 04:55 PM

You have a valid point about not using two players but I don't have any sort of crush on Castro--I just thought that Jerry handled the situation badly on Wed.

Kong76 May 02 2009 04:57 PM

Sorry, the second post is to The Edgemeister.

Edgy DC May 02 2009 05:03 PM

Kong76 wrote: Between your man crush on Castro and us all voting too high for starting pitching in the Shaefer thingie, you're on a bad roll this week. Oh, I don't feel one way or another about Castro, although his huge mandible blows my mind. I just find the situation fascinating. Don't forget my pissing into the wind about Manuel's hook. How about that Cora?

Kong76 May 02 2009 05:06 PM

Cora in the middle of things again. The booth sings praise. Guess they don't read the board.

apmorris May 02 2009 05:08 PM

holy moly

Edgy DC May 02 2009 05:09 PM

Our lefties are hitting lefties today.

Edgy DC May 02 2009 05:09 PM

Ouch. Murder.

gerrard00 May 02 2009 05:11 PM

Reyes needs to put down a better bunt than that if we're going to play winning baseball. What's so hard about squaring up and putting one down?

bmfc1 May 02 2009 05:14 PM

In DC, the HD signal on FOX has disappeared. What about in NY?

Edgy DC May 02 2009 05:16 PM

gerrard00 wrote: Reyes needs to put down a better bunt than that if we're going to play winning baseball. What's so hard about squaring up and putting one down? Leadoff guys often do this. Their instinct is to bunt for hits or to knock it foul. Maddening, I know.

Edgy DC May 02 2009 05:17 PM

Yes, I'd have come out with Rodriguez instead of Green. Get out of save-mode, Jerry.

gerrard00 May 02 2009 05:19 PM

bmfc1 wrote: In DC, the HD signal on FOX has disappeared. What about in NY? Same here in Brooklyn.

Edgy DC May 02 2009 05:21 PM

Bases jammed, two out for Shane Victorino.

Kong76 May 02 2009 05:21 PM

I still got HD in central Westchester ... bases jammed with two outs.

Edgy DC May 02 2009 05:23 PM

Comes back from 2-0 to 2-2, and...

Edgy DC May 02 2009 05:23 PM

3-2. Yikes...

Edgy DC May 02 2009 05:23 PM

Fuckmuffin.

Kong76 May 02 2009 05:23 PM

Feh.

Edgy DC May 02 2009 05:24 PM

Saved Rodriguez for the save and put this sucker in Green's hand.

metirish May 02 2009 05:24 PM

Nine walks today , it caught up with us....

metsguyinmichigan May 02 2009 05:25 PM

Dammit. Absolutely horrible.

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2009 05:37 PM

As I was watching Putz pitch, I was thinking, well, they still have Green in the pen if they want to quickly end the game. He might as well wear Heilman's number. He's going to be seen in the same light. I was sure Rodriguez would pitch the tenth. I was wrong.

Edgy DC May 02 2009 05:58 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I was sure Rodriguez would pitch the tenth. I was wrong. That wasn't Jerry's act last year, I think. He saved the closer for the save on the road... at least, he did when he had a closer.

Fman99 May 02 2009 07:33 PM

Well that sucked. Just handing over the game and all. Uh, boo.

GYC May 02 2009 09:07 PM

I thought Jerry said earlier this year that he wasn't going to manage to the save stat. I though I remember him saying that he fell victim to the closer's role and the save stat while a manager in Chicago. Did he actually say this, or am I completely losing my mind / dreaming big? Like, I did a quick search and can't find evidence, but I'd swear I read it somewhere. If he did say it, he was full of shit.

Frayed Knot May 03 2009 05:56 AM

IIRC, the 'not managing for the save stat' remark came in answer to a question of whether he would hesitate to use Putz in a "closer's situation" even though it would cost Rodriguez a few. He said nothing about his willingness to use both closers in the tricky 'tie game on the road' situation - one that managers apparently feel will leave them vulnerable to the ridicule which comes from having to close a game with a guy not pre-screened for such hazardous duty.

Edgy DC May 03 2009 06:18 AM

Instead he ends up in a tie game with someone less capable of bringing home the win. Deliberately. Stop the insanity.

Benjamin Grimm May 03 2009 06:46 AM

It really is crazy. I guess there have also been times when the Mets have benefited from this kind of insanity, since the opposing managers also manage this way. So it probably evens out. But I'd like our manager to be smarter than the other guy, so that the Mets win more than their share of games. After Putz I would have gone with Rodriguez, then Stokes, for as long as he'd hold out, and then Green.

metirish May 03 2009 06:49 AM

I think Manuel needs to go to the minor leagues for a while.

Ashie62 May 03 2009 08:05 AM

Ya gotta have heart

Rockin' Doc May 03 2009 11:48 AM

metirish - "I think Manuel needs to go to the minor leagues for a while." Just as long as he takes Perez with him.