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metirish May 04 2009 02:39 PM

Reyes .......... SS Murphy ......... LF Beltran .......... CF Delgado ........ 1B Wright .......... 3B Church ......... RF Castro ........... C Castillo ......... 2B Maine ............ RHP

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 04 2009 02:41 PM

I'd like to beat Javy Vasquez as if he were a Yankee again.

metirish May 04 2009 02:45 PM

Check out the Braves beat writer, writes not only about baseball but works in music too. http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/05/04/braves-face-mets-but-not-johan/

TransMonk May 04 2009 03:13 PM

Hernandez is 1-12 with a 6.50 ERA in his past 18 starts against the Braves since May 20, 2001. Against everyone else in that span, he’s 100-85 with a 4.27 ERA. I dislike that stat.

Fman99 May 04 2009 03:48 PM

Luis and Carlos, I missed you. Help yourself to some hits.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2009 04:08 PM

Fman99 wrote: Luis and Carlos, I missed you. Help yourself to some hits. Just FYI: Castillo lifetime vs. Vazquez: 24/67, 1 HR(!), 4 XBH, .358 AVG/.419 OBP/.463(!)SLG (Giddyup!) Delgado vs. Vazquez: 4/24, 3 HR, .167/.259/.542. Not so great... but when 'e gets 'im, 'e gets 'im.

metirish May 04 2009 04:22 PM

Jonhson 2B Escobar SS Chipper 3B Kotchman 1B Francoeur RF B. Jones LF Ross C Schafer CF Vazquez RHP Reyes .......... SS Murphy ......... LF Beltran .......... CF Delgado ........ 1B Wright .......... 3B Church ......... RF Castro ........... C Castillo ......... 2B Maine ............ RHP

metirish May 04 2009 04:30 PM

Oliie "demoted" to the bullpen.

batmagadanleadoff May 04 2009 04:49 PM

metirish wrote: Oliie "demoted" to the bullpen. ...as the guy who comes in when the Mets are down by six runs, I hope.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 04 2009 05:46 PM

Just wait for it. Y'know, Maine is every bit the fuckup Perez is, only whiter, so maybe he's injured.

Nymr83 May 04 2009 05:49 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Just wait for it. Y'know, Maine is every bit the fuckup Perez is, only whiter, so maybe he's injured. Maine going into tonight in 21.2 innings allowed 17 hits and 12 walks. Perez going into tonight in 21.2 innings allowed 28 hits and 21 walks. one of those stat lines is bad and requires patience, the other is absolitely horrendous and requires immediate action. theres no race issue there unless you are actively seeking to make one.

Nymr83 May 04 2009 06:01 PM

fuck. reyes and murphy draw 2-out walks but beltran swing and misses at a 12-6 curveball that was just crazy looking.

metirish May 04 2009 06:11 PM

Those numbers for Maine don't look as bad but from what I have seen Maine looks just as lost out there from inning to inning.

Nymr83 May 04 2009 06:14 PM

metirish wrote: Those numbers for Maine don't look as bad but from what I have seen Maine looks just as lost out there from inning to inning. he didn't look lost to me in his last start. but numbers have a nice way of speaking for themselves. maine- bad, perez- a hell of alot worse.

OlerudOwned May 04 2009 06:18 PM

Great catch by Church.

Nymr83 May 04 2009 06:21 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: Great catch by Church. he really needs to be in there almost every day for his defense alone

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2009 06:33 PM

Nymr83 wrote: fuck. reyes and murphy draw 2-out walks but beltran swing and misses at a 12-6 curveball that was just crazy looking. Occasional nasty curves aside, Vazquez seems the very picture of a guy that Beltran eats up (power pitcher, pounds the zone). Not so, though. Oh, and you don't run on the Empire-- nice cut down of Escobar by the big man in pads.

Nymr83 May 04 2009 06:38 PM

BELTRAN HOMERS!!!

seawolf17 May 04 2009 06:38 PM

Beltran busts out the whopping stick and it's 3-2. Nice.

OlerudOwned May 04 2009 06:39 PM

Beltran with the big kaboom!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2009 06:39 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Occasional nasty curves aside, Vazquez seems the very picture of a guy that Beltran eats up (power pitcher, pounds the zone). Not so, though. Y'know, except when he hits it 430 feet. Vazquez has always seemed to be one of those pitchers who's either mowing guys down or letting in 3 runs at a time.

OlerudOwned May 04 2009 06:40 PM

WRIGHT GOES DEEP! Mets on top!

Nymr83 May 04 2009 06:40 PM

Delgado singles and WRIGHT HOMERS! its offense-time!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2009 06:40 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Occasional nasty curves aside, Vazquez seems the very picture of a guy that Beltran eats up (power pitcher, pounds the zone). Not so, though. Y'know, except when he hits it 430 feet. Vazquez has always seemed to be one of those pitchers who's either mowing guys down or letting in 3 runs at a time. Like so. THERE's your apples, Wright booers.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 04 2009 06:40 PM

Well whaddaya know.

PiggiesTomatoes May 04 2009 06:41 PM

I always loved that Wright kid!

seawolf17 May 04 2009 06:41 PM

Those two home runs landed in almost the same exact spot.

seawolf17 May 04 2009 06:41 PM

And once again, Gary's reading the Pool. (Or he just watched a replay.)

TheOldMole May 04 2009 06:42 PM

Kong76 May 04 2009 06:45 PM

Wright reaches 501 career rbi according to the booth.

PiggiesTomatoes May 04 2009 06:49 PM

Over/Under on the number of walks Maine gives up this inning? Okay, I'm a glass half empty kind of guy.

Kong76 May 04 2009 06:51 PM

From baseball-reference.com : 1. Darryl Strawberry 733 2. Mike Piazza 655 3. Howard Johnson 629 4. Ed Kranepool 614 5. Edgardo Alfonzo 538 6. Cleon Jones 521 7. David Wright 499 8. Keith Hernandez 468 9. Kevin McReynolds 456 10. Carlos Beltran 432

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2009 07:14 PM

Make 'at 434. Two home runs? That's mildly edgy.

Kong76 May 04 2009 07:15 PM

Beltran went KABOOM again while the forum was dead in the water. Critical Error, it sounds so critical.

Kong76 May 04 2009 07:16 PM

Jay Satan, that explains it.

OlerudOwned May 04 2009 07:23 PM

Holy crap I almost forgot how obnoxious the Braves TV crew can be.

themetfairy May 04 2009 07:27 PM

Putz....

OlerudOwned May 04 2009 07:27 PM

Dammit all.

Fman99 May 04 2009 07:28 PM

J.J. Putz blows dead bears.

metsguyinmichigan May 04 2009 07:32 PM

Would it be so wrong to try and give Parnell another inning? I like that kid!

Kong76 May 04 2009 07:34 PM

Jeez, tough room.

seawolf17 May 04 2009 07:35 PM

A few years ago, I'd be cowering under a blanket, sure the Mets would blow this game, being in Atlanta and all. But the mystique there is long gone.

OlerudOwned May 04 2009 07:42 PM

You're a hitter, Gary, not a runner.

Kong76 May 04 2009 07:42 PM

Why the hell is Sheff trying to steal a base there?

Nymr83 May 04 2009 07:44 PM

i guess he (wrongly) thought they werent paying attention

OlerudOwned May 04 2009 07:45 PM

Kong76 wrote: Why the hell is Sheff trying to steal a base there? Because this team seems to still be confusing "aggressiveness" with "doing really stupid things."

seawolf17 May 04 2009 07:45 PM

Coulda been a bad jump on a hit and run.

Fman99 May 04 2009 07:46 PM

And yet I am encouraged by that last Reyes hit and his running of the bases tonight. On to Frankie. Let's put this thing to bed.

seawolf17 May 04 2009 07:49 PM

I tell you, though, that insipid chant drives me fucking batty, and just sounds idiotic.

Fman99 May 04 2009 07:53 PM

Wow. A comeback win. I don't even know what that means! Good times in Hot Lanta.

OlerudOwned May 04 2009 07:53 PM

Into the books we go. Frankie Rodriguez is a lot of fun to watch out that. Entertaining motion and electric stuff.

bmfc1 May 04 2009 07:54 PM

Great win. Fell behind, didn't cave, everybody contributed, the bullpen held on, no drama, under 3 hours.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2009 07:55 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: ="Kong76"]Why the hell is Sheff trying to steal a base there? Because this team seems to still be confusing "aggressiveness" with "doing really stupid things." That's Edge, baby! It cuts both ways! It'll make you howl in ecstasy one night, then sleep with your mother and sister the next-- that's just the way it rolls.

themetfairy May 04 2009 07:55 PM

It feels so strange - I don't know how to react to this kind of win....

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2009 07:56 PM

Fman99 wrote: Wow. A comeback win. I don't even know what that means! Good times in Hot Lanta. Come... back?[/code]

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 04 2009 08:24 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: ="OlerudOwned"] ="Kong76"]Why the hell is Sheff trying to steal a base there? Because this team seems to still be confusing "aggressiveness" with "doing really stupid things." That's Edge, baby! It cuts both ways! It'll make you howl in ecstasy one night, then sleep with your mother and sister the next-- that's just the way it rolls. lol

Fman99 May 04 2009 09:02 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: Into the books we go. Frankie Rodriguez is a lot of fun to watch out that. Entertaining motion and electric stuff. Seriously. I love watching pitches break that hard from right to left like that. Filthy, in all the best connotations of that word.

soupcan May 05 2009 07:28 AM

This is from today's New York Post: ]The personal highlight reel by Beltran was in keeping with his season, which has been off the charts. Not only does he lead the NL with a .400 average, but Beltran extended his hitting streak to 15 games. "My whole career I've been a pull hitter, and now letting the ball get deep has helped me to use the whole field," Beltran said. "Once you do that, you've got a lot of opportunities to help the team." What does Beltran mean here? Letting the ball go deeper in terms of the front and back of home plate/strike zone? So a pull hitter hits the ball towards the front of the plate/strike zone and if one is going to go opposite field then its not so much the swing but where the ball is hit within the zone? Interesting stuff.

Frayed Knot May 05 2009 07:47 AM

soupcan wrote: What does Beltran mean here? Letting the ball go deeper in terms of the front and back of home plate/strike zone? So a pull hitter hits the ball towards the front of the plate/strike zone and if one is going to go opposite field then its not so much the swing but where the ball is hit within the zone? Yes - to all of the above. That's why inside fastballs are, in effect, faster than fastballs towards the outside corner. Hitters need to meet the inside pitch out in front of the plate or else they're getting jammed in on the hands. Outside pitches of the same speed aren't usually met until the ball has reached over the plate, maybe as much as a foot or so "later".

soupcan May 05 2009 08:08 AM

I guess that's common sense if you think about it. Apparently I never really thought about it. Learn something new and interesting everyday. Thanks FK.

Centerfield May 05 2009 09:55 AM

When I was playing, my problem was letting pitches get too deep before swinging. Like the catcher's glove kind of deep.