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Standings, 2009

Edgy DC
May 10 2009 09:32 PM

Sole possession, babies!

<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">17</td><td align="center">13</td><td align="center">.567</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">17</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">.531</td><td align="center">1.0</td><td align="center">1.0</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">14</td><td align="center">.517</td><td align="center">1.5</td><td align="center">2.0</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">16</td><td align="center">.484</td><td align="center">2.5</td><td align="center">5.0</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">10</td><td align="center">19</td><td align="center">.345</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">21.0</td></tr></table>

metsguyinmichigan
May 10 2009 09:50 PM

Can you imagine being 21 games out on May 10? Amazing.

metirish
May 11 2009 04:36 AM

What a difference a week and a seven game winning streak makes.

Fman99
May 11 2009 09:18 AM

Boyoyoyoyoing!

Mendoza Line
May 11 2009 09:25 AM

What is Net GB?

Frayed Knot
May 11 2009 09:40 AM

And to think, it's only been a week since the phone lines were burning up to fire the manager, deport the GM, shoot the owners, and replace most of the roster.

Of course all that resumes with a loss tonight.

]What is Net GB?

The sum of games behind all teams in front of you.
For the Nats it means the 4.5 they trail the Braves + the 5 behind Philly + 5.5 in back of the Marlins in addition to the 6.5 behind us.
It acknowledges the fact that being 'X' number of games out of first is a very different thing depending on whether you're in 2nd place or if you also have to hurdle several teams in between.

Willets Point
May 11 2009 11:09 AM

="metsguyinmichigan":3c7i4phm]Can you imagine being 21 games out on May 10? Amazing.[/quote:3c7i4phm]

I'm sure as Mets fans that there were seasons when we need not imagine. But these are the good years which I for one am grateful.

themetfairy
May 11 2009 11:14 AM

="Willets Point":2ioo2dnz]
="metsguyinmichigan":2ioo2dnz]Can you imagine being 21 games out on May 10? Amazing.[/quote:2ioo2dnz] I'm sure as Mets fans that there were seasons when we need not imagine. But these are the good years which I for one am grateful.[/quote:2ioo2dnz]

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John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 11 2009 11:17 AM

Well this thread is sure to doom us now.

Ceetar
May 11 2009 04:19 PM

Still think they need to fire Manuel, but at least the Mets are too good for him to bring them down.

Farmer Ted
May 15 2009 10:12 AM

Up two games this morning. Won't be comfy until that number has a zero after it.

Frayed Knot
May 15 2009 11:44 AM

NL Central doing OK for itself these days.

The first bit of inter-league (booo) is ready to start in about a week and, if things continue as they have for the previous four seasons, the NL records will start getting bogged down in more losses than wins. So today, while things are still balanced, was the first time I shot a glance on how the divisions were faring vs each other.

EAST: 8 games below .500 - virtually all of it due to Washington's league worst record

CENTRAL: +18 - Pittsburgh's losing streak puts them 6 games under, but somehow Houston is just 2 games under and the other four are within a half-game of each other playing .590-.600 ball
No longer the Comedy Central Division

WEST: -10 - LA is good and the Giants are keeping their heads above water. But the other three are awful

Edgy DC
May 23 2009 09:51 PM

I had noticed Florida fading (kinda sad), but I hadn't noticed Atlanta sneaking into the picture. I should've, considering how they played us last time in Flushing.

<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">23</td><td align="center">18</td><td align="center">.561</td><td align="center">--</td><td align="center">--</td><td align="center">--</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">23</td><td align="center">19</td><td align="center">.548</td><td align="center">0.5</td><td align="center">0.5</td><td align="center">121</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">22</td><td align="center">20</td><td align="center">.524</td><td align="center">1.5</td><td align="center">2.5</td><td align="center">120</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">19</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">.432</td><td align="center">5.5</td><td align="center">14.5</td><td align="center">115</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">12</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">.286</td><td align="center">11.5</td><td align="center">38.5</td><td align="center">110</td></tr></table>

Ceetar
May 23 2009 10:06 PM

="Edgy DC":3tj6rvgg]I had noticed Florida fading (kinda sad), but I hadn't noticed Atlanta sneaking into the picture. I should've, considering how they played us last time in Flushing.[/quote:3tj6rvgg]

I picked the Braves over and the Phillies under before the season. Just judging them on how they looked on SNY when they played us? the Braves are the better team.

Edgy DC
May 25 2009 09:04 PM

Folks have been standing still the last two days, except Florida.

<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">24</td><td align="center">19</td><td align="center">.558</td><td align="center">--</td><td align="center">--</td><td align="center">--</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">24</td><td align="center">20</td><td align="center">.545</td><td align="center">0.5</td><td align="center">0.5</td><td align="center">119</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">23</td><td align="center">21</td><td align="center">.523</td><td align="center">1.5</td><td align="center">2.5</td><td align="center">118</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">21</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">.457</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">10.5</td><td align="center">115</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">13</td><td align="center">31</td><td align="center">.295</td><td align="center">11.5</td><td align="center">39.5</td><td align="center">110</td></tr></table>

Edgy DC
May 27 2009 09:57 PM

Ahem.

<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">26</td><td align="center">20</td><td align="center">.565</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">20</td><td align="center">.556</td><td align="center">0.5</td><td align="center">0.5</td><td align="center">117</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">23</td><td align="center">22</td><td align="center">.511</td><td align="center">2.5</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">115</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">22</td><td align="center">26</td><td align="center">.458</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">12.0</td><td align="center">111</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">13</td><td align="center">33</td><td align="center">.283</td><td align="center">13.0</td><td align="center">41.0</td><td align="center">104</td></tr></table>
Elsewhere, we still have the same record as Cincinnati, and the Blue Jays are playing like chumps and better stop.

Benjamin Grimm
May 28 2009 05:19 AM

Given all the struggles the Mets have had this season, the injuries and that daunting road trip, first place on May 28, and six games above .500 is awfully darn good.

Hopefully they beat up on the Pirates and Nationals on the next road trip and start opening up a bit of a lead.

Triple Dee
May 28 2009 05:36 AM

By the same token, the Phils are within 0.5 game without a starting pitcher with an era <4.50 (QS standard) and a closer with a serious case of the yips.

I'll be very surprised if the NL WC comes from the East.

Triple Dee
May 28 2009 05:49 AM

="Edgy DC":31o8fwpe] ...., and the Blue Jays are playing like chumps and better stop.[/quote:31o8fwpe]

Unhealthy BJs could be bad news for the Mets. If they rapidly fall out of contention, Halliday may be put on the trading bloc(k). There's no way he'll be traded to the Red Sox or Yanquis, which is likely to make the Phils the number one suitors.

Ceetar
May 28 2009 06:37 AM

Getting Johan didn't work for a better Mets team last year. Even if the Phillies could pull of Halladay (they can't), it wouldn't be enough. There issues run a lot deeper than one SP can fix.

soupcan
May 28 2009 06:45 AM

="Triple Dee":16wgdhxn]Unhealthy BJs could be bad news for the Mets. If they rapidly fall out of contention, Halliday may be put on the trading bloc(k). There's no way he'll be traded to the Red Sox or Yanquis, which is likely to make the Phils the number one suitors.[/quote:16wgdhxn]

Well, I'm certain Fman would agree with me when I say that unhealthy BJs are just bad news all-around, but even if the Phils are the most likely suitor that doesn't necessarily mean Halliday is theirs for the taking. If I'm the BJs I'm looking for a lot for Roy. Do the Phillies have what it would take? I would think it would take young, proven ML talent at least.

Benjamin Grimm
May 28 2009 06:52 AM

And remember, it was the White Sox who almost closed a deal for Peavy. They seem to be big players in the starting pitcher market.

If I'm shopping a starting pitcher, they'd be among the first teams I'd call.

Fman99
May 28 2009 06:56 AM

="Triple Dee"]
="Edgy DC"] ...., and the Blue Jays are playing like chumps and better stop.
Unhealthy BJs could be bad news for the Mets.

Too much teeth?

Triple Dee
May 28 2009 08:39 AM

(My apologies for hijacking the Standings thread, maybe these posts should be moved to another thread.)

="soupcan":24grmrc0] but even if the Phils are the most likely suitor that doesn't necessarily mean Halliday is theirs for the taking. If I'm the BJs I'm looking for a lot for Roy. Do the Phillies have what it would take? I would think it would take young, proven ML talent at least. [/quote:24grmrc0] You're right, presently they probably don't have enough for Halliday. Their top pitching prospect, Carlos Carrasco is having a pretty bad time in AAA. They have Kyle Drabek (presumably Doug's son?) who is highly regarded but he's playing A ball . Other than they have some decent OF which the BJs don't need.
="BG":24grmrc0] And remember, it was the White Sox who almost closed a deal for Peavy. They seem to be big players in the starting pitcher market. [/quote:24grmrc0] The ChiSox probably need starting pitching help now. I suspect by the time the BJ's would want to deal Halliday, they'll be as far out as they are.
="Fman99":24grmrc0] Too much teeth? [/quote:24grmrc0]
Gutter.

smg58
May 28 2009 01:35 PM

="Triple Dee":20e91cie]Unhealthy BJs could be bad news for the Phils. If they rapidly fall out of contention, Halliday may be put on the trading bloc(k). There's no way he'll be traded to the Red Sox or Yanquis, which is likely to make the Mets the number one suitors.[/quote:20e91cie]

There, that's better.

In all seriousness, if Halladay and/or Cliff Lee go on the block we can't cry poverty.

Edgy DC
Jun 02 2009 02:13 PM

<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="7">NL East</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">29</td><td align="center">20</td><td align="center">.592</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">28</td><td align="center">22</td><td align="center">.560</td><td align="center">1.5</td><td align="center">1.5</td><td align="center">112</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">.500</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">7.5</td><td align="center">109</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">24</td><td align="center">28</td><td align="center">.462</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">13.5</td><td align="center">106</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">13</td><td align="center">36</td><td align="center">.265</td><td align="center">16</td><td align="center">51.5</td><td align="center">98</td></tr></table>

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 08 2009 04:49 AM

I know we all pretend to be disinterested in the Wild Card (until, of course, it's the last weekend of the season and the division has been clinched and we desperately want the Wild Card) but the Mets are currently in a virtual tie for the WC lead with St. Louis. (They're actually .001 ahead.)

Just thought I'd mention it.

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2009 07:43 AM

It helps that whilst Met fans wuz crying over the sweep in Pittsburgh and deeming barely acceptable their 2 of 3 over the Nats (and ranting about how good teams "don't let that happen", etc) the Cards were getting swept by the Rockies.

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2009 03:00 PM

BTW, that Cards-Rox series which I assumed was a 3-game sweep, wasn't.
It was actually a 4-game series with the getaway game today ... and now it's a 4-game sweep by the Rockies. And in StL too.

Edgy DC
Jun 08 2009 07:32 PM

<table cellpadding="10"><tr><td valign="top"><table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="7">NL East</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">33</td><td align="center">22</td><td align="center">.600</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">.545</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">105</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">27</td><td align="center">28</td><td align="center">.491</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">9.0</td><td align="center">102</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">27</td><td align="center">31</td><td align="center">.466</td><td align="center">7.5</td><td align="center">13.5</td><td align="center">99</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">40</td><td align="center">.273</td><td align="center">18.0</td><td align="center">55.5</td><td align="center">90</td></tr></table></td><td valign="top"><table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="7">NL Wildcard</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">.545</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td></tr><tr><td>St. Louis</td><td align="center">31</td><td align="center">27</td><td align="center">.534</td><td align="center">0.5</td><td align="center">0.5</td><td align="center">105</td></tr><tr><td>San Francisco</td><td align="center">29</td><td align="center">26</td><td align="center">.527</td><td align="center">1.0</td><td align="center">1.5</td><td align="center">106</td></tr><tr><td>Chicago</td><td align="center">28</td><td align="center">26</td><td align="center">.519</td><td align="center">1.5</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">106</td></tr><tr><td>Cincinnati</td><td align="center">29</td><td align="center">27</td><td align="center">.518</td><td align="center">1.5</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">105</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">27</td><td align="center">28</td><td align="center">.491</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">10.5</td><td align="center">104</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">27</td><td align="center">31</td><td align="center">.466</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">19.0</td><td align="center">101</td></tr><tr><td>Pttsburgh</td><td align="center">26</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">.464</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">19.0</td><td align="center">102</td></tr><tr><td>San Diego</td><td align="center">26</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">.464</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">19.0</td><td align="center">102</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">.455</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">24.0</td><td align="center">102</td></tr><tr><td>Arizona</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">.439</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">34.0</td><td align="center">101</td></tr><tr><td>Colorado</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">.439</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">34.0</td><td align="center">101</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">40</td><td align="center">.273</td><td align="center">15.0</td><td align="center">142.0</td><td align="center">92</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>

Edgy DC
Jun 15 2009 08:38 PM

Florida is making another small move in the east, while the Mets have relinquished the wild card for now.

Colrado has absolutely exploded, knocking a ton of net games back off as they move from next to last to the middle of the pack.

<table cellpadding="10"><tr><td valign="top"><table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="7">NL East</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">36</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">.590</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">29</td><td align="center">.525</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">98</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">33</td><td align="center">.492</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">8.0</td><td align="center">94</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">.482</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">9.5</td><td align="center">95</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">16</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">.262</td><td align="center">20.0</td><td align="center">63.5</td><td align="center">82</td></tr></table></td><td valign="top"><table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="7">NL Wildcard</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td></tr><tr><td>San Francisco</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">28</td><td align="center">.548</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td></tr><tr><td>St. Louis</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">.531</td><td align="center">1.0</td><td align="center">1.0</td><td align="center">99</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">29</td><td align="center">.525</td><td align="center">1.5</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">100</td></tr><tr><td>Cincinnati</td><td align="center">31</td><td align="center">31</td><td align="center">.500</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">98</td></tr><tr><td>Chicago</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">.500</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">99</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">33</td><td align="center">.492</td><td align="center">3.5</td><td align="center">9.0</td><td align="center">96</td></tr><tr><td>Colorado</td><td align="center">31</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">.492</td><td align="center">3.5</td><td align="center">9.0</td><td align="center">101</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">.482</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">11.5</td><td align="center">97</td></tr><tr><td>Pttsburgh</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">33</td><td align="center">.476</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">16.5</td><td align="center">96</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td align="center">29</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">.475</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">16.5</td><td align="center">97</td></tr><tr><td>San Diego</td><td align="center">28</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">.452</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">31.5</td><td align="center">95</td></tr><tr><td>Arizona</td><td align="center">27</td><td align="center">37</td><td align="center">.422</td><td align="center">8.0</td><td align="center">53.5</td><td align="center">92</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">16</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">.262</td><td align="center">17.5</td><td align="center">167.5</td><td align="center">84</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>

Willets Point
Jun 15 2009 10:02 PM

All thing considered, 4 GB in mid-June ain't too shabby.

Gwreck
Jun 15 2009 11:01 PM

The Phillies aren't as good as they were last year (particularly Lidge and Rollins). I can certainly see the Mets passing them, maybe with a Philly injury and the Mets getting some players back.

Edgy DC
Jun 16 2009 05:30 AM

The Mets have turn it on, though. One way, and not a crazy one, of looking at "The Phillies aren't as good as they were last year (particularly Lidge and Rollins)," is to realize the Phils sure have the potential to get better.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 16 2009 12:36 PM

="metirish (in another thread)":20pgmzma]With 101 games to go what would the Mets need to do realistically the rest of the way? After they fired Willie they went 55-38 in the remaining 93 games . Need to win 60 games?[/quote:20pgmzma]

I haven't done this yet this year, but here's what Baseball Prospectus is currently saying:

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Average wins by position in NL East: 92.7 86.4 80.7 74.6 61.7 92.8 NL East W L Pct3 Avg W Avg L Champions Wild Card Playoffs 1D Change 7D Change Phillies 36 25 .514 88.8 73.2 46.66633 14.85141 61.51774 .04575 -1.48791 Mets 32 29 .544 87.7 74.3 41.41762 13.35543 54.77305 .17262 -0.79291 Marlins 32 33 .485 79.3 82.7 6.56945 4.60971 11.17916 .04267 6.61307 Braves 30 32 .485 78.1 83.9 5.33545 3.61399 8.94944 .10715 -7.83416 Nationals 16 45 .456 62.1 99.9 .01115 .00837 .01952 -0.00110 -0.04799</pre>

The Dodgers are at 97.4% for the playoffs, 94.3 for the division. The most likely wild card team is Colorado, currently in 3rd place, with 17.4%. (Phillies are the second most likely wild card, followed by the Mets and the Giants.)

In the American League, the Red Sox score highest, at 77.8% for the playoffs. Yankees are at 47.0%. They both are about equal for the wild card (at 26 to 27 per cent), but the Red Sox are way ahead for the division, leading 50.4% to 20.6%.

I can see why that Orioles fan is boasting, by the way. His team's chances: .05655 division .22353 wild card .28008 overall.

HahnSolo
Jun 16 2009 12:45 PM

Oh, god no, not the BP projections! I vowed not to read these after absorbing them for 2 straight Septembers. have mercy on me, Grimm.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 16 2009 12:53 PM

Don't worry, I have no plans to make this a daily feature... yet.

I have my doubts right now that the Mets will be involved in a gripping September pennant race anyway.

Ashie62
Jun 17 2009 04:52 AM

BP Over 50/50 shot...Was kinda hoping for 80 percent wire to wire..Probably asking to much on my end

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 17 2009 05:36 AM

Picked up a game on the whole division last nite.

Centerfield
Jun 17 2009 07:17 AM

="Benjamin Grimm":wvotfwll]Don't worry, I have no plans to make this a daily feature... yet. I have my doubts right now that the Mets will be involved in a gripping September pennant race anyway.[/quote:wvotfwll]

You think they're gonna run away with the division? Wow, that's some confidence.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 25 2009 01:56 PM

One game out of first place. If Tampa Bay does us a favor tonight, it'll be only a half.

Perhaps the Mets will leave Philadelphia in first place next week.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 25 2009 01:58 PM

We got a cupcake at home coming up, I don't see how we could get out of this weekend not in first.

Edgy DC
Jun 25 2009 10:51 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 31 2009 07:51 AM

The whole field has truncated since the last update, with expansion brethren Colorado and Florida heating up the most. Even Washington has gained some ground.

<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="7">NL East</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">37</td><td align="center">33</td><td align="center">.529</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">37</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">.521</td><td align="center">0.5</td><td align="center">0.5</td><td align="center">92</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">36</td><td align="center">.514</td><td align="center">1.0</td><td align="center">1.5</td><td align="center">90</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">.472</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">10.5</td><td align="center">88</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">21</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">.300</td><td align="center">16.0</td><td align="center">58.5</td><td align="center">77</td></tr></table>

<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="7">NL Wildcard</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td></tr><tr><td>San Francisco</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">.549</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td></tr><tr><td>Milwaukee</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">.528</td><td align="center">1.5</td><td align="center">1.4</td><td align="center">99</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">37</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">.521</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">2.5</td><td align="center">90</td></tr><tr><td>Colorado</td><td align="center">37</td><td align="center">35</td><td align="center">.514</td><td align="center">2.5</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">89</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">36</td><td align="center">.514</td><td align="center">2.5</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">88</td></tr><tr><td>Cincinnati</td><td align="center">35</td><td align="center">36</td><td align="center">.493</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">11.5</td><td align="center">88</td></tr><tr><td>Chicago</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">35</td><td align="center">.493</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">11.5</td><td align="center">89</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">.472</td><td align="center">5.5</td><td align="center">22.0</td><td align="center">86</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td align="center">33</td><td align="center">37</td><td align="center">.471</td><td align="center">5.5</td><td align="center">22.0</td><td align="center">87</td></tr><tr><td>Pttsburgh</td><td align="center">33</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="center">.458</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">31.0</td><td align="center">85</td></tr><tr><td>San Diego</td><td align="center">31</td><td align="center">40</td><td align="center">.437</td><td align="center">8.0</td><td align="center">50.5</td><td align="center">84</td></tr><tr><td>Arizona</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">42</td><td align="center">.417</td><td align="center">9.5</td><td align="center">62.5</td><td align="center">82</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">21</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">.300</td><td align="center">17.5</td><td align="center">158.5</td><td align="center">75</td></tr></table>

Willets Point
Jun 25 2009 11:11 PM

="Benjamin Grimm":3i3p78g1]Perhaps the Mets will leave Philadelphia in first place next week.[/quote:3i3p78g1]

That can be interpreted in two different ways:

1. The Mets will depart the city of Philadelphia having gained first place for themselves.
2. The Mets will lose and thus the team from Philadelphia will remain in sole possession of first place.

Gwreck
Jun 25 2009 11:31 PM

Which do you think it is?

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 26 2009 05:45 AM

Let me rephrase then...

Perhaps the Mets, upon their departure from Philadelphia next week, will find themselves with the best record in the National League East.

Edgy DC
Jun 26 2009 08:45 PM

Hey, we're in first place.

Edgy DC
Jul 07 2009 06:11 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 07 2009 07:18 AM

Wow, I haven't posted since the Mets were in first.

The good news is that, in the day and a half since the Mets last played (and lost), they have passed two teams (one intradivision) in the standings. The bad news is that the sterategy of moving ahead by not playing isn't very sustainable.

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL East</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">37</td><td align="center">.538</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">48.17926</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">41</td><td align="center">.512</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">79</td><td align="center">18.79686</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="center">42</td><td align="center">.481</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">7.0</td><td align="center">78</td><td align="center">21.36100</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">.476</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">8.5</td><td align="center">77</td><td align="center">11.65843</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">24</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">.304</td><td align="center">19.0</td><td align="center">64.5</td><td align="center">64</td><td align="center">0.00446</td></tr></table>

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL Wildcard</td></tr>
<tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>San Francisco</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">37</td><td align="center">.549</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">24.55501</td></tr><tr><td>Colorado</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="center">.524</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">79</td><td align="center">36.45378</td></tr><tr><td>Milwaukee</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="center">.524</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">79</td><td align="center">5.20361</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">41</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="center">.513</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">79</td><td align="center">2.99581</td></tr><tr><td>Chicago</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">41</td><td align="center">.512</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">77</td><td align="center">3.12304</td></tr><tr><td>Cincinnati</td><td align="center">40</td><td align="center">41</td><td align="center">.494</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">12.5</td><td align="center">77</td><td align="center">1.71817</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td align="center">40</td><td align="center">41</td><td align="center">.494</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">12.5</td><td align="center">77</td><td align="center">1.13201</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="center">42</td><td align="center">.481</td><td align="center">5.5</td><td align="center">19.5</td><td align="center">76</td><td align="center">3.12304</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">.476</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">23.5</td><td align="center">75</td><td align="center">2.08225</td></tr><tr><td>Pttsburgh</td><td align="center">37</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">.446</td><td align="center">8.5</td><td align="center">46.0</td><td align="center">72</td><td align="center">0.56024</td></tr><tr><td>San Diego</td><td align="center">35</td><td align="center">47</td><td align="center">.427</td><td align="center">10.0</td><td align="center">61.0</td><td align="center">71</td><td align="center">0.14075</td></tr><tr><td>Arizona</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">.410</td><td align="center">11.5</td><td align="center">77.5</td><td align="center">69</td><td align="center">0.26129</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">24</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">.300</td><td align="center">20.0</td><td align="center">179.5</td><td align="center">62</td><td align="center">0.00053</td></tr></table>

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 07 2009 06:51 AM

Yikes... eighth place in the Wild Card race? Just a few weeks ago they were in first or second.

Things look pretty grim, but not so bad that a sustained hot streak wouldn't cure.

But is this team capable of a sustained hot streak? Sure doesn't look like it.

Edgy DC
Jul 07 2009 07:22 AM

The overlooked here continues to be the turnabout Colorado had had over the last few weeks.

I ain't telling you what to believe, but if you want to still root, take it one team at a time. Root for the Mets, and root like heck against Houston.

Once they pass Houston, the Astros become the Mets allies in helping them pick off the teams ahead.

I'm not going to tell you it's not a slog ahead.

TransMonk
Jul 08 2009 08:07 AM

39-43.

This is the first time the Mets have been 4 games under .500 since 9/17/05.

metirish
Jul 08 2009 08:09 AM

The Mets are losers of nine of their last eleven games. I expect to be in fourth place in the next few days.

Edgy DC
Jul 13 2009 08:23 AM

The pattern of fortune's vunlerability to change dramatically each day in the NL East lends an air of bigitude to the Mets upcoming series with the Braves.

Is anybody in the press noticing the extended surge of the Rockies? Look how dramatically they lead without leading in the wildcard race.

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL East</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">.558</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">60.36533</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">44</td><td align="center">.511</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">71</td><td align="center">15.70618</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">.489</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">8.0</td><td align="center">70</td><td align="center">12.38783</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">42</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">.483</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">9.5</td><td align="center">70</td><td align="center">11.54009</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">26</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="center">.299</td><td align="center">22.5</td><td align="center">73.5</td><td align="center">54</td><td align="center">0.00058</td></tr></table>

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL Wildcard</td></tr>
<tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>San Francisco</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="center">.557</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">27.11857</td></tr><tr><td>Colorado</td><td align="center">47</td><td align="center">41</td><td align="center">.534</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">73</td><td align="center">45.51423</td></tr><tr><td>Milwaukee</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">.511</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">71</td><td align="center">2.96857</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">44</td><td align="center">.511</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">40</td><td align="center">3.00459</td></tr><tr><td>Chicago</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">.500</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">10.0</td><td align="center">71</td><td align="center">3.18395</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td align="center">44</td><td align="center">44</td><td align="center">.500</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">10.0</td><td align="center">70</td><td align="center">0.71723</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">.489</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">16.0</td><td align="center">69</td><td align="center">1.13201</td></tr><tr><td>Cincinnati</td><td align="center">42</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">.483</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">19.5</td><td align="center">69</td><td align="center">0.68224</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">42</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">.483</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">19.5</td><td align="center">69</td><td align="center">2.23495</td></tr><tr><td>Pttsburgh</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">50</td><td align="center">.432</td><td align="center">11.0</td><td align="center">60.0</td><td align="center">64</td><td align="center">0.12630</td></tr><tr><td>Arizona</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">.427</td><td align="center">11.5</td><td align="center">65.0</td><td align="center">62</td><td align="center">0.19441</td></tr><tr><td>San Diego</td><td align="center">36</td><td align="center">52</td><td align="center">.409</td><td align="center">13.0</td><td align="center">81.5</td><td align="center">62</td><td align="center">0.01837</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">26</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="center">.299</td><td align="center">22.5</td><td align="center">195.5</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">0.00010</td></tr></table>

Nymr83
Jul 13 2009 08:50 AM

]Washington 26 61 .299 22.5 73.5 54 0.00058

so they'll win the division 6 times out of 1,000,000? that takes into account the chances that they trade for Albert Pujols, Tim Lincecum, Hanley Ramirez, Manny Ramirez, Dustin Pedroia, Evan Longoria, and Zack Greinke all before the end of the day, right?

Edgy DC
Jul 13 2009 08:56 AM

Plague years, I believe.

Nymr83
Jul 13 2009 08:59 AM

I also did not take into account the chances that the Mets, Braves, Marlins, and Phillies would all get paid off to lose the rest of their games.

Edgy DC
Jul 27 2009 02:02 PM

Chicago --- recently compared to the Mets as far as being disappointing --- has re-asserted themselves and edged ahead of the Cards, thought St. Louis still is shown as more likely to win the division according to Baseball Prospectus. The Mets series win helped put a brake on a long streaking period by Houston climbing the standings, and it also allowed them to pass Cincinnati. So the Reds are now one of the teams you are allowed to root for. Milwaukee is sliding and their the next team we are looking for the Mets to pick off.

Washington is eliminated from both races to the fifth decimal place of a percentage point.

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL East</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">40</td><td align="center">.583</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="right">71.92603</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.515</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">59</td><td align="right">18.94809</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.515</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">59</td><td align="right">6.65038</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">.474</td><td align="center">10.5</td><td align="center">18.5</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="right">2.47551</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">68</td><td align="center">.306</td><td align="center">27.0</td><td align="center">84.5</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="right">0.00000</td></tr></table>

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL Wildcard</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>Colorado</td><td align="center">54</td><td align="center">44</td><td align="center">.551</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="right">58.03895</td></tr><tr><td>San Francisco</td><td align="center">52</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">.531</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">63</td><td align="right">9.07787</td></tr><tr><td>St. Louis</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.525</td><td align="center">2.5</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="right">3.54684</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.515</td><td align="center">3.5</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="right">8.31609</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.515</td><td align="center">3.5</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="right">3.47697</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td align="center">50</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.510</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">8.5</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="right">0.87862</td></tr><tr><td>Milwaukee</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">.500</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">14.5</td><td align="center">60</td><td align="right">0.89282</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">.474</td><td align="center">7.5</td><td align="center">32.0</td><td align="center">58</td><td align="right">0.37380</td></tr><tr><td>Cincinnati</td><td align="center">44</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">.454</td><td align="center">9.5</td><td align="center">48.0</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="right">0.07017</td></tr><tr><td>Pttsburgh</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">.439</td><td align="center">11.0</td><td align="center">61.5</td><td align="center">54</td><td align="right">0.02579</td></tr><tr><td>Arizona</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">.434</td><td align="center">11.5</td><td align="center">66.5</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="right">0.09422</td></tr><tr><td>San Diego</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="center">.384</td><td align="center">16.5</td><td align="center">121.5</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="right">0.00010</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">68</td><td align="center">.306</td><td align="center">24.0</td><td align="center">211.5</td><td align="center">41</td><td align="right">0.00000</td></tr></table>

Edgy DC
Jul 31 2009 07:45 AM

Not a lot of movement during the series, except, you know, the Mets knocked Colorado off the top perch in the Wild Card race. No matter, says Baseball Prospectus, who is still doubling down on the Rockies.

The Mets are only a game closer to the top, but cut their net gap from 32 to 26, so that's good. Similarly, they pulled three games closer in the Net column in the division race, such as it is.

In other words, this run has been nice, but it has to be sustained to be meaningful.

Catching Milwaukee and/or Houston over the next few days would be very meaningful.

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL East</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">58</td><td align="center">42</td><td align="center">.580</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">73.50793</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">.520</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">8.16545</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">52</td><td align="center">50</td><td align="center">.510</td><td align="center">7.0</td><td align="center">8.0</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">15.18698</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">52</td><td align="center">.485</td><td align="center">9.5</td><td align="center">15.5</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">3.13963</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">70</td><td align="center">.314</td><td align="center">27.0</td><td align="center">85.5</td><td align="center">35</td><td align="center">0.00000</td></tr></table>

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL Wildcard</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>San Francisco</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">.549</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">18.97177</td></tr><tr><td>Colorado</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">47</td><td align="center">.539</td><td align="center">1.0</td><td align="center">1.0</td><td align="center">60</td><td align="center">45.52084</td></tr><tr><td>St. Louis</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">.533</td><td align="center">1.5</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">58</td><td align="center">6.05652</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">.520</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">58</td><td align="center">4.07728</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">52</td><td align="center">50</td><td align="center">.510</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">10.5</td><td align="center">57</td><td align="center">6.77887</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">.500</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">15.5</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">0.65272</td></tr><tr><td>Milwaukee</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">.500</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">15.5</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">0.78867</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">52</td><td align="center">.485</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">26.0</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">0.62566</td></tr><tr><td>Cincinnati</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">.446</td><td align="center">10.5</td><td align="center">58.0</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">0.01369</td></tr><tr><td>Arizona</td><td align="center">44</td><td align="center">58</td><td align="center">.431</td><td align="center">12.0</td><td align="center">71.5</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">0.04786</td></tr><tr><td>Pttsburgh</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">58</td><td align="center">.426</td><td align="center">12.5</td><td align="center">76.5</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">0.00565</td></tr><tr><td>San Diego</td><td align="center">41</td><td align="center">62</td><td align="center">.398</td><td align="center">15.5</td><td align="center">109.5</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">0.00005</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">32</td><td align="center">70</td><td align="center">.314</td><td align="center">24.0</td><td align="center">211.5</td><td align="center">37</td><td align="center">0.00000</td></tr></table>

Edgy DC
Aug 04 2009 12:41 PM

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL East</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">40</td><td align="center">.583</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="right">74.89575</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.515</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">59</td><td align="right">13.43997</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.515</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">59</td><td align="right">10.06658</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">.474</td><td align="center">10.5</td><td align="center">18.5</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="right">1.59770</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">68</td><td align="center">.306</td><td align="center">27.0</td><td align="center">84.5</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="right">0.00000</td></tr></table>

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL Wildcard</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>Colorado</td><td align="center">54</td><td align="center">44</td><td align="center">.551</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="right">58.95294</td></tr><tr><td>San Francisco</td><td align="center">52</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">.531</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">63</td><td align="right">16.21132</td></tr><tr><td>St. Louis</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.525</td><td align="center">2.5</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="right">3.44353</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.515</td><td align="center">3.5</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="right">2.64151</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.515</td><td align="center">3.5</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="right">3.85554</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td align="center">50</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.510</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">8.5</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="right">0.39682</td></tr><tr><td>Milwaukee</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">.500</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">14.5</td><td align="center">60</td><td align="right">0.44886</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">.474</td><td align="center">7.5</td><td align="center">32.0</td><td align="center">58</td><td align="right">0.12738</td></tr><tr><td>Cincinnati</td><td align="center">44</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">.454</td><td align="center">9.5</td><td align="center">48.0</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="right">0.00121</td></tr><tr><td>Pttsburgh</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">.439</td><td align="center">11.0</td><td align="center">61.5</td><td align="center">54</td><td align="right">0.00172</td></tr><tr><td>Arizona</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">.434</td><td align="center">11.5</td><td align="center">66.5</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="right">0.06649</td></tr><tr><td>San Diego</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="center">.384</td><td align="center">16.5</td><td align="center">121.5</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="right">0.00031</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">68</td><td align="center">.306</td><td align="center">24.0</td><td align="center">211.5</td><td align="center">41</td><td align="right">0.00000</td></tr></table>

Net Met Post-Season Likelihood:
1.47032%

Ashie62
Aug 04 2009 12:50 PM

="metirish":37imwhfz]The Mets are losers of nine of their last eleven games. I expect to be in fourth place in the next few days.[/quote:37imwhfz]

We have a winner! Give the man a set of steaknives

TransMonk
Aug 04 2009 12:51 PM

="Edgy DC":1wacunne] Net Met Post-Season Likelihood: 1.47032%[/quote:1wacunne]

Met Post-Season Likelihood on Sept 12, 2007:
99.80%

Stranger things have happened. Stranger and far more depressing.

Ashie62
Aug 04 2009 01:00 PM

="TransMonk":1oi9gbzs]
="Edgy DC":1oi9gbzs] Net Met Post-Season Likelihood: 1.47032%[/quote:1oi9gbzs] Met Post-Season Likelihood on Sept 12, 2007: 99.80% Stranger things have happened. Stranger and far more depressing.[/quote:1oi9gbzs]

Wow** Strangely that just made my day. After all they are the Amazin Mets

Edgy DC
Aug 06 2009 08:06 AM

Well, that lousy loss the night before last burns the Mets badly as their net post-season odds dip toward the 1% mark. Milwaukee moves up a bit, so the Mets have to eye Houston first, but you know, the Fish are slipping also.

San Fran re-takes the top wildcard slot, but Baseball Prospectus still is totally not impressed. They love the Rocks.

San Diego joins the Nats among teams not shouldered with the burden of a visible post-season possiblity.

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL East</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">60</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">.571</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">75.75257</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">52</td><td align="center">.514</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">9.14475</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">.509</td><td align="center">6.5</td><td align="center">7.0</td><td align="center">50</td><td align="center">14.03328</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">.477</td><td align="center">10.0</td><td align="center">17.5</td><td align="center">47</td><td align="center">1.06940</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">36</td><td align="center">72</td><td align="center">.333</td><td align="center">25.5</td><td align="center">79.5</td><td align="center">31</td><td align="center">0.00000</td></tr></table>

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL Wildcard</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>San Francisco</td><td align="center">60</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.556</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">22.82055</td></tr><tr><td>Colorado</td><td align="center">59</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.551</td><td align="center">0.5</td><td align="center">0.5</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">54.46296</td></tr><tr><td>St. Louis</td><td align="center">59</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">.536</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">3.5</td><td align="center">54</td><td align="center">2.71764</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">52</td><td align="center">.514</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">11.0</td><td align="center">52</td><td align="center">2.38452</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">.509</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">13.0</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">3.43947</td></tr><tr><td>Milwaukee</td><td align="center">54</td><td align="center">54</td><td align="center">.500</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">18.0</td><td align="center">50</td><td align="center">0.41470</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">.491</td><td align="center">7.0</td><td align="center">24.0</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">0.11615</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">.477</td><td align="center">8.5</td><td align="center">34.5</td><td align="center">47</td><td align="center">0.27858</td></tr><tr><td>Arizona</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">59</td><td align="center">.454</td><td align="center">11.0</td><td align="center">54.5</td><td align="center">44</td><td align="center">0.11468</td></tr><tr><td>Cincinnati</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="center">.430</td><td align="center">13.5</td><td align="center">77.0</td><td align="center">42</td><td align="center">0.00048</td></tr><tr><td>Pttsburgh</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">62</td><td align="center">.421</td><td align="center">14.5</td><td align="center">87.0</td><td align="center">41</td><td align="center">0.00063</td></tr><tr><td>San Diego</td><td align="center">44</td><td align="center">65</td><td align="center">.404</td><td align="center">16.5</td><td align="center">109.0</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">0.00000</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">36</td><td align="center">72</td><td align="center">.333</td><td align="center">24.0</td><td align="center">199.0</td><td align="center">31</td><td align="center">0.00000</td></tr></table>

Edgy DC
Aug 10 2009 07:57 PM

The Mets are Santa Claus right now, giving hope to all the poor children, first Arizona, then San Diego, who actually has come back from having no chance of winning within five decimal places of a percentage point. Mercy.

Not so resuscitated is Washington, who despite winning a fuky eight straight, still aren't showing any numbers but goose eggs, but they've closed their wild card gap from 199 net games to 173. Another seven months at this pace and who knows?

Normally I'd cheer the Nats onward, reasoning that any success by a team behind the Mets in the standings helps the Mets pick off opponents, but this week stank so solidly that I view Washington's success as a threat by them to somehow catch the Mets in the standings.

Show me something, SHaMs.

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL East</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">.560</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">58.10719</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">58</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">.523</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">15.91526</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">58</td><td align="center">54</td><td align="center">.518</td><td align="center">4.5</td><td align="center">5.0</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">25.56209</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">52</td><td align="center">59</td><td align="center">.468</td><td align="center">10.0</td><td align="center">21.5</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">0.41546</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">40</td><td align="center">72</td><td align="center">.357</td><td align="center">22.5</td><td align="center">71.5</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">0.00000</td></tr></table>

<table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tr bgcolor="tan"><td colspan="8">NL Wildcard</td></tr><tr bgcolor="blue"><td>Team</td><td align="center">W</td><td align="center">L</td><td align="center">%</td><td align="center">GB</td><td align="center">Net GB</td><td align="center">Elim. #</td><td align="center">BP % Champs</td></tr><tr><td>Colorado</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="center">50</td><td align="center">.550</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">51.36310</td></tr><tr><td>San Francisco</td><td align="center">61</td><td align="center">50</td><td align="center">.550</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">---</td><td align="center">18.00222</td></tr><tr><td>Chicago</td><td align="center">58</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">.532</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">4.0</td><td align="center">51</td><td align="center">4.56220</td></tr><tr><td>Florida</td><td align="center">58</td><td align="center">53</td><td align="center">.523</td><td align="center">3.0</td><td align="center">7.0</td><td align="center">49</td><td align="center">3.87031</td></tr><tr><td>Atlanta</td><td align="center">58</td><td align="center">54</td><td align="center">.518</td><td align="center">3.5</td><td align="center">9.0</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">4.75462</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">.495</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">21.5</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">0.16014</td></tr><tr><td>Milwaukee</td><td align="center">55</td><td align="center">56</td><td align="center">.495</td><td align="center">6.0</td><td align="center">21.5</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">0.41311</td></tr><tr><td>New York</td><td align="center">52</td><td align="center">59</td><td align="center">.468</td><td align="center">9.0</td><td align="center">42.5</td><td align="center">43</td><td align="center">0.08468</td></tr><tr><td>Arizona</td><td align="center">50</td><td align="center">62</td><td align="center">.446</td><td align="center">11.5</td><td align="center">62.5</td><td align="center">40</td><td align="center">0.03717</td></tr><tr><td>Cincinnati</td><td align="center">48</td><td align="center">62</td><td align="center">.436</td><td align="center">12.5</td><td align="center">71.5</td><td align="center">40</td><td align="center">0.00078</td></tr><tr><td>San Diego</td><td align="center">47</td><td align="center">66</td><td align="center">.416</td><td align="center">15.0</td><td align="center">96.5</td><td align="center">36</td><td align="center">0.00003</td></tr><tr><td>Pttsburgh</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">66</td><td align="center">.405</td><td align="center">16.0</td><td align="center">107.5</td><td align="center">36</td><td align="center">0.00000</td></tr><tr><td>Washington</td><td align="center">40</td><td align="center">72</td><td align="center">.357</td><td align="center">21.5</td><td align="center">173.5</td><td align="center">30</td><td align="center">0.00000</td></tr></table>

Elster88
Aug 10 2009 08:55 PM

]I view Washington's success as a threat by them to somehow catch the Mets in the standings.

That just depressed the hell out of me.

duan
Aug 11 2009 05:34 AM
i don't know

every time they look like they *just might* put something together that'd mean they'd claw their way TOWARDS being at least able to duke it out in September they lose two straight and fall back off. I'm still cool with saying if they go 13-6 or something in the remaining August games they'll be well in it, but there's only so many times they can fail to actually have one of those runs and still be able to put enough of them together.
We've really missed a healthy John Maine.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 11 2009 12:06 PM
Re: i don't know

="duan":exl5k9ys]We've really missed a healthy John Maine.[/quote:exl5k9ys]

Since mid-2007.

Edgy DC
Aug 11 2009 12:53 PM

We've missed three batsmen a bunch more though.

duan
Aug 11 2009 05:08 PM

="Edgy DC":20movskg]We've missed three batsmen a bunch more though.[/quote:20movskg]
totally, it's just that Pelfrey & Hernandez seem to alternate good & bad outings and whoever's in the 4th & 5th slots is usually pretty junky so on the days where we don't score 7 runs we lose more then half the time. I sorta feel if we just had one more stable starter we'd be close to .500 now and if the batters came back could make a go of it.