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IGT, 5/18, Mets at Dodgers

Edgy DC May 18 2009 04:53 PM

Seriously, what can we possibly expect from from Redding? I'm ascared but still rooting. Redding will be Met number 860.

bmfc1 May 18 2009 05:00 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 18 2009 07:06 PM

lineup change--see below

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 06:17 PM

So... start Pagan-- worse against lefties than either Church or Murphy-- and Tatis (Lord love him, he's 2-for-25 against Wolf with 9 Ks and 3 BBs)? I kind of wish I were surprised. Instead, I'm just perplexed-- I don't yet speak Jerry.

Nymr83 May 18 2009 06:19 PM

Angel Pagan? why the fuck does Jerry hate Church so much? Was he abused by a priest as a child?

HahnSolo May 18 2009 06:21 PM

I'm rather more concerned about what's up with the shortstop.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 18 2009 06:22 PM

Jerry so crazy.

bmfc1 May 18 2009 06:57 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 18 2009 07:37 PM

Cora to the DL, Ramon Martinez recalled: Mets: Angel Pagan LF Luis Castillo 2B Carlos Beltran CF Gary Sheffield RF David Wright 3B Fernando Tatis 1B Ramon Martinez SS Ramon Castro C Tim Redding RHP Dodgers: Juan Pierre LF Rafael Furcal SS Orlando Hudson 2B Andre Ethier RF Russell Martin C James Loney 1B Matt Kemp CF Juan Castro 3B Randy Wolf LHP

metirish May 18 2009 07:32 PM

That some gangsta shit Jerry be pulling with these crazy lineups.

DocTee May 18 2009 07:44 PM

]Angel Pagan? why the fuck does Jerry hate Church so much? Was he abused by a priest as a child? Post o' the month right there.

Edgy DC May 18 2009 08:04 PM

Darling says that Martinez only arrived at the park two or three minutes ago. Gary reminds me that it was at Dodger Stadium that Pagan went down last year. Let's play some ball.

Edgy DC May 18 2009 08:06 PM

Do we have the daily fuck you for Castro? Jerry Manuel wrote: 6) Fernando Tatis 1B 7) Ramon Martinez SS 8) Ramon Castro C 9) Tim Redding RHP And... check!

Nymr83 May 18 2009 08:10 PM

got beat to it. nevermind.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 08:12 PM

And the oxymoronical Angel Pagan leads off with a single.

Fman99 May 18 2009 08:12 PM

Pagan leads off with a hit. Proving, once again, that Jerry is a genius and that you are all a bunch of forum hack schmoes. Ha! <drinkie>

Edgy DC May 18 2009 08:12 PM

Welcome to 2009, AP.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 08:14 PM

Castillo should have bunted. I live to second guess. I will NEVER be wrong. BWAAHHHHHHHAAAHHHHH.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 18 2009 08:24 PM

Tim Redding, ladies and gentlemen.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 08:24 PM

Welcome to Methood, Tim Redding. A bit of advice: walking the fast guys is as healthy a hobby as wearing red or blue bandannas in Dodger Stadium without having big, knife-wielding friends around.

Nymr83 May 18 2009 08:28 PM

I don't like that play by Tatis, its the first inning, just get an out. And Castro did not block well.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 08:29 PM

This could get as ugly as Redding with his shirt off.

Nymr83 May 18 2009 08:30 PM

That dead hamster clinging to Redding's chin is annoying.

Fman99 May 18 2009 08:31 PM

Redding -- big dumb beard and also something obstructing his windpipe. Let's get that long man Figueroa warming up in the pen! Aw, shit.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 08:31 PM

Nymr83 wrote: I don't like that play by Tatis, its the first inning, just get an out. Neither did anyone who's ever played, seen or read a written description of a game of baseball. Walks and bad fundys do not make for good omens.

A Boy Named Seo May 18 2009 08:32 PM

Gotta get Kemp here. 2-nil's doable. Glad I picked up some Dale's earlier, just in case it's one of them nights...

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 18 2009 08:33 PM

="A Boy Named Seo"]Gotta get Kemp here. 2-nil's doable. Glad I picked up some Dale's earlier, just in case it's one of them nights... Looks good but shouldn't you, like, be at this game?

Nymr83 May 18 2009 08:33 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Glad I picked up some Dale's earlier, just in case it's one of them nights... I will refrain from starting an argument over beers in the IGT at 2-0, but if this gets out of hand we're throwing down (and throwing up some beer polls!)

Nymr83 May 18 2009 08:36 PM

"Why do they have a tarp anyway? it never rains here!"

Nymr83 May 18 2009 08:37 PM

welcome back to the bigs Ramon, get him home!! nice job.

Fman99 May 18 2009 08:37 PM

RBI for the new guy.

A Boy Named Seo May 18 2009 08:39 PM

Looks good but shouldn't you, like, be at this game?

A week in SF took me deep. I'm minding my aching wallet this week.

metirish May 18 2009 08:39 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on May 18 2009 09:01 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Tim Redding, ladies and gentlemen. Tim fucking Redding...

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 08:39 PM

Ramon in #26, hardly the typical middle-infielder digits.

Fman99 May 18 2009 08:40 PM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] ="A Boy Named Seo"]Gotta get Kemp here. 2-nil's doable. Glad I picked up some Dale's earlier, just in case it's one of them nights... Looks good but shouldn't you, like, be at this game? He couldn't make it, he was busy having someone hand him his jock in Facebook Scrabble tonight. Ha! (I'm a jerk. It's the vodka mostly.)

A Boy Named Seo May 18 2009 08:42 PM

Yeah, what the hell were doing with my jock anyway? This is a boozy IGT in the early going. C'mon, Redding.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 08:46 PM

1-2... 3? Lord knows those'll be few and far between... have some o' me hoppy goodness!

Fman99 May 18 2009 08:46 PM

Redding settled in there and pitched better against the ass-end of the LA lineup. Hey, it's a commercial for "Loudmouths." Someone ought to launch those bastards into the void.

Fman99 May 18 2009 08:49 PM

Frank McCourt looks like his face is in the process of imploding, like a neutron star.

Fman99 May 18 2009 08:52 PM

The neon "Loudmouths" logo actually looks like two guys trying to suck the same cock.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 08:53 PM

Lumberjacks don't fear barehanding grounders.

metirish May 18 2009 09:02 PM

="metirish"] ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Tim Redding, ladies and gentlemen. Tim fucking Redding... It should be noted that I meant this as Tim fucking Redding.......like in a wow way...settled down right?

metirish May 18 2009 09:04 PM

Anyone here see Fernando pitch in person?

PiggiesTomatoes May 18 2009 09:12 PM

Lazy Mr. Castro.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 18 2009 09:15 PM

metirish wrote: Anyone here see Fernando pitch in person? I saw Mookie Wilson hit a home run off him in 1983.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 09:15 PM

Redding has eliminated much of the suck from his effort. Let's get him and his hedgehog a couple runs.

metirish May 18 2009 09:17 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ="metirish"]Anyone here see Fernando pitch in person? I saw Mookie Wilson hit a home run off him in 1983. Very cool Those army commercials make me want to sign my kid up now......they make it sound like a picnic.

Fman99 May 18 2009 09:17 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: Redding has eliminated much of the suck from his effort. Let's get him and his hedgehog a couple runs. Is Ron Jeremy at the game tonight?

apmorris May 18 2009 09:18 PM

I think Vin Scully has lost his mind ...

metirish May 18 2009 09:19 PM

Fman99 wrote: ="Swan Swan H"]Redding has eliminated much of the suck from his effort. Let's get him and his hedgehog a couple runs. Is Ron Jeremy at the game tonight? No but they showed Jeff Van Gundy there

Fman99 May 18 2009 09:22 PM

Jose Lima at the game tonight. Oh, Lord, let's see if Mrs. Lima is in attendance please.

PiggiesTomatoes May 18 2009 09:22 PM

metirish wrote: ="Fman99"] ="Swan Swan H"]Redding has eliminated much of the suck from his effort. Let's get him and his hedgehog a couple runs. Is Ron Jeremy at the game tonight? No but they showed Jeff Van Gundy there And Jose Lima. It's Lima Time!

PiggiesTomatoes May 18 2009 09:24 PM

="Fman99"]Jose Lima at the game tonight. Oh, Lord, let's see if Mrs. Lima is in attendance please. Let's be on the lookout.... HOW COULD YOU MISS THOSE!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 09:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 18 2009 09:27 PM

C'mon, slappy. Jesus loves 2-out rallies. EDIT: And he hates you.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 09:26 PM

He's more into the 3-day rally, but we get the idea.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 18 2009 09:29 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: He's more into the 3-day rally, but we get the idea. On fire tonite.

Fman99 May 18 2009 09:32 PM

Kevin Burkhart interviewing some old crank while holding his ball. Yes, that's right.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 09:37 PM

Tim fucking Redding, indeed.

Fman99 May 18 2009 09:37 PM

I am sorry I ever doubted Timmy and his chin-merkin. On to the 6th and the big boppahs coming up - Beltran, Sheff, Wright.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 09:37 PM

Nice turnaround by Redding here. This is the inning where he gets off the hook.

Fman99 May 18 2009 09:41 PM

="PiggiesTomatoes"] ="Fman99"]Jose Lima at the game tonight. Oh, Lord, let's see if Mrs. Lima is in attendance please. Let's be on the lookout.... HOW COULD YOU MISS THOSE! She's smuggling two teletubby suns with baby heads under her top! God bless her.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 18 2009 09:42 PM

David Wright.

metirish May 18 2009 09:43 PM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]David Wright. That would be David fucking Wright

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 09:45 PM

Good defense makes good pitchers. I'm back to drinking to forget.

Fman99 May 18 2009 09:46 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Good defense makes good pitchers. I'm back to drinking to forget. Cheers then! One run deficit -- no big whoop! Though the good guys are running out of outs.

PiggiesTomatoes May 18 2009 09:48 PM

Somebody tell Sheff to use two hands. Scary.

apmorris May 18 2009 09:53 PM

PiggiesTomatoes wrote: Somebody tell Sheff to use two hands. Scary. you tell'em. I'll wait here.

Nymr83 May 18 2009 09:55 PM

Great rebound after the first inning by Redding. If Tatis gets the out at first this could be tied at 1. Lets get them off the hook here!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 09:56 PM

93 pitches through a well-navigated 6 for ZZ Tim. Jerry Rules dictate he's getting pulled. Who's swinging for him?

PiggiesTomatoes May 18 2009 09:56 PM

Nice pitching Timmy! The stolen base basically runs the Dodgers out of the inning. Thanks, Joe.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 10:13 PM

You're f*cking out, and you're f*cking out.

PiggiesTomatoes May 18 2009 10:14 PM

Top of the line-up...rally time?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 10:16 PM

Angel says: "Yes, I have three hits. And I just doubled. Screw you."

PiggiesTomatoes May 18 2009 10:17 PM

Effing BRUTAL!

Ashie62 May 18 2009 10:19 PM

Looks like I just woke up for a for an opportunity for our new LF Sheff Welcome all

Ashie62 May 18 2009 10:22 PM

Cmon

Ashie62 May 18 2009 10:23 PM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

apmorris May 18 2009 10:23 PM

PaGONE! (sit down joe, have some tea)

Ashie62 May 18 2009 10:24 PM

RBI Sheff our designated driver scores

PiggiesTomatoes May 18 2009 10:24 PM

WOW...that's a seeing eye hit. Almost thought Hudson was going to run it down. Nice slide Angel.

Nymr83 May 18 2009 10:24 PM

BALLSY move by Shines to send him home on a ball fielded by the secondbaseman deeeeeeeep in the hole. and way to slide hard, Pagan, i'm sick of the soft shit we've seen too much of this year.

apmorris May 18 2009 10:24 PM

they realize it wasn't a force out, right?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 10:24 PM

2 out RBIs bring smiles to Creepy Baby Eyes!

Ashie62 May 18 2009 10:25 PM

Nymr83 wrote: BALLSY move by Shines to send him home on a ball fielded by the secondbaseman deeeeeeeep in the hole. and way to slide hard, Pagan, i'm sick of the soft shit we've seen too much of this year. amen

apmorris May 18 2009 10:26 PM

Dave, I hate to tell you this but .... you're off the hook

A Boy Named Seo May 18 2009 10:35 PM

Ramon Martinez throws like a girl or David Eckstein.

Nymr83 May 18 2009 10:41 PM

Ok Mets, score me one in the top of the 9th or I'm off to bed.

PiggiesTomatoes May 18 2009 10:41 PM

JJ... That was dyn-o-mite!

attgig May 18 2009 10:43 PM

wasn't that a slide by russell martin into first? why wasn't that an out when tatis went back to him?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 10:48 PM

File away for future reference: Church is now 3-3 lifetime against Broxton, with 1 BB.

A Boy Named Seo May 18 2009 10:51 PM

Jeez, Church was so out. Get dirty, man.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:02 PM

Green makes a great pitch and a lousy throw to first, and Feliciano has himself a mess to deal with.

A Boy Named Seo May 18 2009 11:04 PM

Great job, Pedro. Free baseball tonight, kids.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 11:06 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: Green makes a great pitch and a lousy throw to first, and Feliciano has himself a mess to deal with. "Me llamo Pedro. Soy su basurero."

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:08 PM

My alarm clock looms like an evil spectre as I await the tenth.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:16 PM

Two pitch-arounds in a row for Wright. It's up to Tatis to pull the finger out of Torre's nose and shove a bat in there.

A Boy Named Seo May 18 2009 11:17 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: My alarm clock looms like an evil spectre as I await the tenth. You late night east-coasters are my heroes. I woulda been asleep by the 3rd.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:18 PM

Clean living and a pot of Peet's House Blend.

Gwreck May 18 2009 11:19 PM

I feel like our chances to win just went down in a big way when we didn't take a lead there in the 10th. Would you double switch out Tatis for Reed in order to keep Stokes in the game longer?

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:23 PM

]Would you double switch out Tatis for Reed in order to keep Stokes in the game longer? At this point I think so. Stokes is probably going two or three if he has to. May as well delay his AB.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 11:26 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: ]Would you double switch out Tatis for Reed in order to keep Stokes in the game longer? At this point I think so. Stokes is probably going two or three if he has to. May as well delay his AB. Agreed. Not to mention that 'Nando-- the one at-bat with a lineout aside-- has looked jumpy at the plate tonight... you're losing little by way of offense.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:31 PM

Sheesh. Two ropes right at outfielders. Bloop one in, will ya, Churchie?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2009 11:33 PM

Hey, this Church guy's pretty good-- he should be starting!

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:34 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Hey, this Church guy's pretty good-- he should be starting! Put the glove on the other hand and stick him at shortstop.

apmorris May 18 2009 11:35 PM

a new low

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:37 PM

Holy Throneberry! Church gets called for missing third trying to score on Pagan's shot in the gap. As I was watching it live he seemed to miss it, and nobody argued. Oy.

Elster88 May 18 2009 11:38 PM

That won't get him off of Jerry's shit list. Plus it looks like he hurt himself. Pagan picking up where he left off last April. Is there any way we win after that? Should I go to sleep?

Elster88 May 18 2009 11:39 PM

Gary says it's a double for Pagan. I was wondering how to score that but I guess it makes sense if Church "never made it" to third.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:40 PM

Stokes, after breezing through the 10th, walks Loretta leading off the 11th on four pitches. Ominous.

Gwreck May 18 2009 11:42 PM

Unbelievable. I guess Beltran bears a certain amount of fault but there's a cardinal rule that any ball the centerfielder can get to, he takes. Pagan should have known better.

apmorris May 18 2009 11:44 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 18 2009 11:45 PM

tee them up for another error

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:45 PM

I should just go to bed now and read about this disaster tomorrow.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:48 PM

OK, Furball's little flare to left doesn't do the job. I'd go back to normal defense here, but Jerry doesn't.

Elster88 May 18 2009 11:49 PM

I don't like this 5 infielder thing. I'd rather play the outfield shallow. What's more likely to happen, a dink hit between the two outfielders (where a shallow centerfielder could keep the runner on third from tagging up), or a groundball up the middle that gets between second and shortstop?

Gwreck May 18 2009 11:52 PM

I guess that could've theoretically ended worse but I'm not really sure how.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:54 PM

OK, so they shouldn't have double switched Tatis out. Stokes did a hell of a job against Furcal and Hudson, but Reed threw it away. I live to second guess. I will NEVER be wrong. BWAAHHHHHHHAAAHHHHH.

Swan Swan H May 18 2009 11:58 PM

Gwreck wrote: I guess that could've theoretically ended worse but I'm not really sure how. Some time in the mid 1980s my softball team was in game 3 of a 2-of-3 playoff series. Game tied, bottom of the inning (I don't remember which, but it was the seventh or later). Leadoff triple. We intentionally walk the next two guys and move our left fielder in to be the fifth infielder. Next batter hits it right to him on one hop. He steps on second and throws to first, a beautiful double play, as the runner on third crosses the plate to end our season. That was worse. For me, anyway.

Ashie62 May 19 2009 12:00 AM

that was truly unique...don't think Church will play tomorrow Tired of these AAA lineups

Fman99 May 19 2009 04:47 AM

I'm glad I went to bed before this mess of an 11th inning started. Wow.

Rockin' Doc May 19 2009 05:05 AM

This IGT was a lot like a a good book that you just can't put down, then you get to the ending and it ruins the entire story for you.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2009 05:11 AM

Very happy I missed that

Methead May 19 2009 05:18 AM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Very happy I missed that Turned the TV off after Church missed third.

metirish May 19 2009 05:45 AM

Swan Swan H wrote: I should just go to bed now and read about this disaster tomorrow. It's what I did you know. Went to bed down 2-1 , woke up and checked MLB on the ipod touch saw that we were tied, checked in here this morning and WHAM.....still trying to catch up. In a nut shell what were the screw ups?

Nymr83 May 19 2009 06:20 AM

I went to sleep (as threatened) after the Mets failed to score in the top of the 9th. Nice to see I didn't miss anything.

Frayed Knot May 19 2009 07:41 AM

metirish wrote: In a nut shell what were the screw ups? Let's put it this way ... you got yourself one big muthafuckin' nutshell.

Gwreck May 19 2009 07:46 AM

metirish wrote: In a nut shell what were the screw ups? Church misses third while scoring go-ahead run in top of 11th. Becomes third out of inning instead of up one run with runner at second base. Pagan and Beltran fail to call each other off and ball drops in bottom of 11th, runners to second and third with nobody out. After getting first out, groundball to Jeremy Reed is fielded and thrown home but he misses plate by 10 feet and game ends.

metirish May 19 2009 07:47 AM

I'm off today and am watching the FF replay on SNY....wow the Church play was messed up.....Manuel couldn't even look at him as he trudged into the dugout.......

Edgy DC May 19 2009 07:48 AM

I'd like to once more come out against pulling relief pitchers after one inning just cause.

metirish May 19 2009 07:58 AM

Gwreck wrote: ="metirish"]In a nut shell what were the screw ups? Church misses third while scoring go-ahead run in top of 11th. Becomes third out of inning instead of up one run with runner at second base. Pagan and Beltran fail to call each other off and ball drops in bottom of 11th, runners to second and third with nobody out. After getting first out, groundball to Jeremy Reed is fielded and thrown home but he misses plate by 10 feet and game ends. Just saw the whole mess , wow......give some credit to Stokes for showing some big balls....Reed with the outfielders throw...

Rotblatt May 19 2009 08:40 AM

I am so, so glad I went to bed at 1, and didn't stay up for the ugly ending. Redding looked a'ight, Wright remains hot, and our bullpen did its job, but the rest of them . . . gah.

Centerfield May 19 2009 08:42 AM

I have a serious problem with Jerry acting like a fuckstick to Ryan Church.

metirish May 19 2009 08:47 AM

I'm just going to ask this question....... What has Church done to deserve playing time every day?

Nymr83 May 19 2009 08:50 AM

metirish wrote: I'm just going to ask this question....... What has Church done to deserve playing time every day? been the best defensive option in right field BY FAR, hit pretty well pre-concussion last year, has a track record suggesting that he will hit.

Edgy DC May 19 2009 08:56 AM

metirish wrote: I'm just going to ask this question....... What has Church done to deserve playing time every day? Hit and fielded well enough to deserve more consideration than the guys getting consideration over him.

Rockin' Doc May 19 2009 11:00 AM

If Church thought he was in Manuel's doghouse before, he must be buried under the doghouse now. Church would likely have a tough time gaining admittance to the upcoming team flight for Boston, if it was up to Jerry.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 19 2009 12:25 PM

metirish wrote: Just saw the whole mess , wow......give some credit to Stokes for showing some big balls....Reed with the outfielders throw... Lost in the postgame kerfuffle over bases not touched: Stokes actually manning up on the mound and getting about 2/3 of the way toward cleaning up a mess which was only partially of his making (with an average defensive 1B, the teams are still playing).