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="holychicken":16pq6d16]It is probably better for Murphy to take as many of his defensive lumps at this time of the year, very far away from the NY media, and while most NYM fans are asleep, instead of in September, in NY when all Mets fans are nearly suicidal just waiting for a collapse and someone to blame it on before it even comes.
But I guess that would still be managing from fear. But considering the NY media, I don't blame him in this case.[/quote:16pq6d16]
Well, Id' have no problem with that. If Delgado becomes done for the year, I think Murphy at first is probably the best long term option. Might as well get him at least the basis of experience there.
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holychicken
May 18 2009 08:33 AM
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="Ceetar":2g9k9ngw]="holychicken":2g9k9ngw]It is probably better for Murphy to take as many of his defensive lumps at this time of the year, very far away from the NY media, and while most NYM fans are asleep, instead of in September, in NY when all Mets fans are nearly suicidal just waiting for a collapse and someone to blame it on before it even comes.
But I guess that would still be managing from fear. But considering the NY media, I don't blame him in this case.[/quote:2g9k9ngw]
Well, Id' have no problem with that. If Delgado becomes done for the year, I think Murphy at first is probably the best long term option. Might as well get him at least the basis of experience there.[/quote:2g9k9ngw]
Then playing him at first would be out of fear too. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. ;)
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Edgy DC
May 18 2009 08:39 AM
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I'm not saying he's not fine. But why put a very good career outfielder at first, while you have a career infielder, if a fair one, playing outfield, where he's been playing poorly.
Let's look at guys conservatively on the devensive scale of Poor(1)/Fair(2)/Average(3)/Very Good(4)/Excellent(5).
Looking most generously at Manuel's strategy, let's rank Murphy as a Poor firstbaseman and a Fair leftfielder.
We know Reed is at least a Very Good leftfielder, and we can't assume, due to his inexperience, that he can be considered any better than a Fair at first. (Again, I'm being generous to Jerry here.)
With Murphy in left and Reed at first, you have two 2's in the lineup. The other way around, you have a 4 and a 1. And that, for the last time, is being generous to Jerry. I have little reason to think Murphy would be a poorer firstbaseman than he is a leftfielder. And value in left is worth more than value at first, according to the theory of the defensive spectrum.
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smg58
May 18 2009 12:35 PM
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I'm for making a trade. The way the Indians are juggling Ryan Garko with a couple of younger guys, I bet he could be had on the cheap. Outside of a really bad first half last year, he's been a decent hitter. Plus he mostly played catcher through the minors, and the Mets don't have a Victor Martinez (or even a Kelly Shoppach) keeping him from playing there if (and hopefully when) Delgado comes back.
And while we're at it, we could ask the Indians if they're making Cliff Lee available yet.
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Edgy DC
May 18 2009 01:20 PM
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="holychicken":1t57xn2y]But I guess that would still be managing from fear. But considering the NY media, I don't blame him in this case.[/quote:1t57xn2y]
I sure do. Media relations is spelled W-I-N.
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Nymr83
May 18 2009 01:56 PM
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="Edgy DC":1qhwlapr]Media relations is spelled W-I-N.[/quote:1qhwlapr]
Best quote ever. you could have stamped that to the asses of Eric Mangini, Herm Edwards, and Art Howe on their respective ways out of town.
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holychicken
May 18 2009 02:19 PM
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="Edgy DC":i66f7xyk]="holychicken":i66f7xyk]But I guess that would still be managing from fear. But considering the NY media, I don't blame him in this case.[/quote:i66f7xyk]
I sure do. Media relations is spelled W-I-N.[/quote:i66f7xyk]
Sure. But with all parts of managing, you have to look down the road as well.
If the idea is to make Murphy your everyday left fielder, what better place to give him some extra time to learn the ropes than in the relatively obscure west coast? Doing it now means that every Mets fan isn't going to be holding their breath during every round-about route he takes to a ball and wondering what the heck he is doing out there in the first place.
Really, if they think Delgado is going to be coming back, I don't see it as a bad idea to keep Murphy learning the position they want him to be playing.
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Ashie62
May 18 2009 02:32 PM
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Murphy may be odd man out for some time...barring a trade Reed/Tatis at 1B and Sheff daily in OF
They seriously need to find this guy a position even if its at Buffalo
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Edgy DC
May 18 2009 02:38 PM
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="holychicken":w0mjtg4b]If the idea is to make Murphy your everyday left fielder, what better place to give him some extra time to learn the ropes than in the relatively obscure west coast?[/quote:w0mjtg4b]
I think he's as likely to end up at first base as left field. We have surfeit of outfielders --- real ones --- and we need a firstbaseman now and perhaps for the forseeable future.
I don't think hiding him on the west coast is going to make him a better outfielder. I think treating him like a man and using him where he best helps the team will.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 18 2009 02:39 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on May 18 2009 03:28 PM
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If this past week is at all indicative of the way in which he'll be used going forward (unless he's smacking the holy hell out of the ball), I would advocate shopping Daniel Murphy for, say, Mark DeRosa right now (or as soon as the Wedge firing occurs/Cleveland fire sale begins).
While I understand it's coincident with a quasi-slump/Sheffield's seizing of opportunity, it's rather strange that a rash of injuries has led to a drop in ABs for the guy.
EDIT: Yick. [url=http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2009/05/3_up_yank_rotat.html]Sherman agrees with me (sorta).[/url][/url]
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holychicken
May 18 2009 02:46 PM
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| ="Edgy DC"]I think he's as likely to end up at first base as left field. |
And you may be right. However, if Jerry does not believe this then I think the move is not as nonsensical as you make it out to be.
| ]I don't think hiding him on the west coast is going to make him a better outfielder. |
I am not so sure about this. But even if you don't want to give any credence to the idea of hiding some of his almost gaffs out there, certainly you have to admit that the practice will make him better.
| ]I think treating him like a man and using him where he best helps the team will. |
And if the intent is to make him the everyday left fielder, why isn't more experience in left field the place for him?
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Edgy DC
May 19 2009 05:40 AM
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Because experienced infielders in the outfield while experienced outfielders are staffing the infield is no way to win games.
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