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Worst Losses of 2009

Elster88
May 18 2009 11:56 PM

5/18: This game should've been about Redding and Pagan. I don't have the energy to sum up what happened. Maybe tomorrow. And I have to wake up in four hours. This is the first time I've been really down this year. Maybe a good night's sleep will help.

Ashie62
May 19 2009 12:01 AM

First time?

Benjamin Grimm
May 19 2009 05:11 AM

Oops, maybe this is the wound-licking thread.

Met Hunter
May 19 2009 05:37 AM

Jerry Manuel's quote

"Guy missed third base. That's unbelieveable"

Nymr83
May 19 2009 06:22 AM

="Met Hunter":3fjoo0xj]Jerry Manuel's quote "Guy missed third base. That's unbelieveable"[/quote:3fjoo0xj]

"I already treated the guy like shit, now I've got an excuse"

seriously, if Wright or Manuel's new pet Jeremy Reed had done this you'd get a different quote out of him like "these things happen"

Frayed Knot
Jun 01 2009 08:37 PM

6/1 in Pittsburgh

Mets jump out to a 5-0 lead after 3 but get one-hit after that as Pirates get 3 in the 4th off Livan and 5 in the 8th off the pen (mostly Putz) to win going away 8-5

Fman99
Jun 01 2009 08:41 PM

="Frayed Knot":19aiv965]6/1 in Pittsburgh Mets jump out to a 5-0 lead after 3 but get one-hit after that as Pirates get 3 in the 4th off Livan and 5 in the 8th off the pen (mostly Putz) to win going away 8-5[/quote:19aiv965]

This one was worse because I was awake for the whole fucking awful thing.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 01 2009 08:51 PM

="Fman99"]
="Frayed Knot"]6/1 in Pittsburgh Mets jump out to a 5-0 lead after 3 but get one-hit after that as Pirates get 3 in the 4th off Livan and 5 in the 8th off the pen (mostly Putz) to win going away 8-5
This one was worse because I was awake for the whole fucking awful thing.


The other one was worse, because I was awake for the whole mind-numbing thing. And because it had multiple stages, like a rocket-launch of fail.

holychicken
Jun 01 2009 08:56 PM

For some reason this one did not bother me all too much. Is that . . . me . . . maturing?

Nah, I find that hard to believe.

soupcan
Jun 02 2009 09:37 AM

="holychicken":1670vd26]For some reason this one did not bother me all too much.[/quote:1670vd26]

Yeah - you know what? Me too.

For some reason it didn't tighten my colon like it should have.

Maybe because they've been winning games with the B team for a while now that I half expected a bad loss at some point.

Edgy DC
Jun 02 2009 09:46 AM

I've come to expect a mugging by Pittsburgh once a year, so I just rolled over and played dead so they wouln't kick me as much.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 02 2009 09:57 AM

A point nobody's mentioned in this: the Valdez boot.

The thing is, if your lineup's struggling, you can plug in someone with hitting skills and he can help you right away, assuming he just keeps doing what he does.

If your defense is struggling, you can't just plug in someone with defensive skills. Defense-- especially middle-infield defense-- is one of the only places in baseball where actual teamwork comes into play, innit? If teammates have the chance to play together for some time, they know the capabilities of their mates, and-- it follows-- they know what they can do together and must do individually. As a SS who knows his keystone partner, you know what balls you have to sell out to get to, how fast you can/have to turn an attempted DP, where the ball's getting delivered and in what rhythm on forceouts. If they haven't had an opportunity to get to know each other, two defensive players with superior skills can produce some embarrassing moments.

Maybe some extra infield is in order?

Edgy DC
Jun 02 2009 10:02 AM

It was interesting. My thinking was the runner had him partially screened or else he's have taken it on a shorter hop. He played back on it because he couldn't read it, causing him to rush the transfer. I don't think they'd have turned it anyhow.

Willets Point
Jun 02 2009 11:10 AM

Whatever. The Mets went 19-9 in May. I expect they'll go 18-10 in June with some dramatic wins versus the Phillies and the Yankees. This is just one of those games.

Centerfield
Jun 02 2009 12:58 PM

Nights like these I think about Ben Grimm and his "happy if they win, no skin off my back attitude". I don't see how it's possible to simply turn off the TV and go to sleep without missing a beat after something like this.

I've tried for years to get to the BG Point, but find myself no closer than when I started. I've pretty much concluded that he is not human.

Willets Point
Jun 02 2009 02:03 PM

="Centerfield":116axrxy]I've tried for years to get to the BG Point, but find myself no closer than when I started. I've pretty much concluded that he is not human.[/quote:116axrxy]

Duh! He isn't human. He's a big. orange scaly monster.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 02 2009 02:21 PM

="Centerfield":3od0yu6j]I don't see how it's possible to simply turn off the TV and go to sleep without missing a beat after something like this.[/quote:3od0yu6j]

And yet, I did.

Look at it this way: Donuts are tasty. You don't need a donut to be happy, but when you get one, you enjoy it.

It's not necessary to me for the Mets to win. When they do, it's great. Like getting a free donut. But I can live a happy life without donuts. And I can also enjoy my life if the Mets don't win.

I think 1986 was the threshold for me. Falling short in 1985 bothered me. But now that I have that World Championship under my belt, I'm good. 1987 didn't bother me for long, and neither did that loss to the Dodgers in 1988.

Remember, this is FUN. It's not IMPORTANT.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 02 2009 02:49 PM

="Benjamin Grimm"]
="Centerfield"]I don't see how it's possible to simply turn off the TV and go to sleep without missing a beat after something like this.
And yet, I did. Look at it this way: Donuts are tasty. You don't need a donut to be happy, but when you get one, you enjoy it. It's not necessary to me for the Mets to win. When they do, it's great. Like getting a free donut. But I can live a happy life without donuts. And I can also enjoy my life if the Mets don't win. I think 1986 was the threshold for me. Falling short in 1985 bothered me. But now that I have that World Championship under my belt, I'm good. 1987 didn't bother me for long, and neither did that loss to the Dodgers in 1988. Remember, this is FUN. It's not IMPORTANT.


Yes, I enjoy donuts. But I don't care about donuts. I don't spend long hours and prodigious amounts of money-- hours and money that could otherwise be devoted to more productive (not to mention less mercurial) pursuits-- consuming donuts. Well, not only consuming donuts but discussing the finer points of the donuts' taste, and texture, and whether or not I like the package in which they came, and what the music that plays in my favorite donut store does for digestion, and that bonding over donuts was the one way I could communicate with my mother. If I did, I think I'd feel pretty terrible if my favorite donut shop changed the recipe suddenly, or shuttered its nearest store, or fired my favorite counter guy.

I mean, everything in its right place and measure and all that... but I can't divorce the "fun" part from the "caring" part. And that means, to some degree, that I'll feel a little bad when things turn out especially badly.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 02 2009 03:32 PM

Well, sure. I'm unhappy when the Mets lose, but I just groan and shake it off.

All I know is, it works for me.

Edgy DC
Jun 02 2009 08:14 PM

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Yes, I enjoy donuts. But I don't care about donuts. I don't spend long hours and prodigious amounts of money-- hours and money that could otherwise be devoted to more productive (not to mention less mercurial) pursuits-- consuming donuts. Well, not only consuming donuts but discussing the finer points of the donuts' taste, and texture, and whether or not I like the package in which they came, and what the music that plays in my favorite donut store does for digestion, and that bonding over donuts was the one way I could communicate with my mother. If I did, I think I'd feel pretty terrible if my favorite donut shop changed the recipe suddenly, or shuttered its nearest store, or fired my favorite counter guy. I mean, everything in its right place and measure and all that... but I can't divorce the "fun" part from the "caring" part. And that means, to some degree, that I'll feel a little bad when things turn out especially badly.


Jeez, no wonder my newsletter is failing.

Edgy DC
Jun 03 2009 07:50 AM

And isn't it time for the <a href="http://www.charlenelockwood.com/DonutNews.pdf" target="_blank">new issue</a> to drop?

Fman99
Jun 03 2009 07:54 AM

="Edgy DC":28rds1sz]And isn't it time for the <a href="http://www.charlenelockwood.com/DonutNews.pdf" target="_blank">new issue</a> to drop?[/quote:28rds1sz]

Wow. I love their tagline.

"All gave some. Some gave all. Others gave donuts."

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 03 2009 07:55 AM

Best issue ever.

soupcan
Jun 03 2009 08:21 AM

Um....'Dougnuts'?

Edgy DC
Jun 03 2009 08:29 AM

Don't be such a soupcan. I have real work to do. Typos will happen.

metirish
Jun 12 2009 09:00 PM

6/12/2009

The Castillo game...

Frayed Knot
Jun 12 2009 09:01 PM

This contest is over.

Fman99
Jun 12 2009 09:06 PM

What's worse is that YES will add this to their rotation of "classic Yankee games" to play during rainouts and such.

<barf>

Swan Swan H
Jun 12 2009 09:35 PM

The Mets have lost games before under bad circumstances - errors, bases-loaded walks issued, all sorts of stuff - and I understand that fresh wounds sting worst, but I've been watching this team since Ed Kranepool couldn't vote and I can't remember one that hurt worse. Consider:

First game at that fucking sewage plant in the Bronx

Punked their big-mouth starter

Exposed their shabby bullpen

Our golden boy beat their infallible closer

While our closer popped up their 25 million dollar juicehead in the most clutch of situations

And it's the Yankees. The motherfucking cocksucking evil Yankees. We hashed all of this out during the Sox series, but to me a loss to these scumbags is worse than a loss to anyone else. You disagree? I don't give a fuck. In my world this is worse than losing to the Phillies or Braves. Way worse.

I know it's regular season, and compared to Beltran v. Wainwright or the Stone/Seaver/Matlack fiasco it's small potatoes, but Damn! this one hurts.

MFS62
Jun 13 2009 08:20 AM

Swannie, I'll ditto everything you said and add one more to what fman said.
My boss is a Yankee fan. It won't have to wait for replays on YES before I have to endure the pain again. It will happen on Monday.

Later

Swan Swan H
Jun 13 2009 09:18 AM

My response to Yankee fans (and I have had to do this a couple of times already) is pretty simple - we had you beat, and you know we did. Wright beat Rivera and Frankie beat A-Rod, Joba nearly pissed himself out there, and you won on a miraculous fluke. Savor it all you want, but you know we had you.

Gotta keep pushing their couple of failures in their face, hoping to distract from the hideous bottom line. I feel like Sean Hannity in October '08.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 13 2009 11:31 AM

Whatever argument we can make about how the Mets lost on a fluke can be made by Red Sox fans about Game 6.

Swan Swan H
Jun 13 2009 12:05 PM

="Benjamin Grimm":15t9dwqh]Whatever argument we can make about how the Mets lost on a fluke can be made by Red Sox fans about Game 6.[/quote:15t9dwqh]

Well, the Mets had tied that one already, but otherwise I'm fine with that.

Gwreck
Jun 13 2009 03:41 PM

Yeah, for that reason alone, that analogy doesn't work.

dgwphotography
Jun 13 2009 04:45 PM

="Frayed Knot":1iap5wrc]This contest is over.[/quote:1iap5wrc]

So is the contest for worst loss of the decade...

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2009 05:04 PM

Benitez 2001 is so relieved.

Centerfield
Jun 15 2009 08:03 AM

Who said Benitez is not to blame for last Friday?

Gwreck
Jun 23 2009 10:09 PM

It might not be top 3 but the 6/23 game (2 hits over 9 innings) is on this lsit.

Nymr83
Jun 24 2009 12:21 AM

="Gwreck":1a8sk3gv]It might not be top 3 but the 6/23 game (2 hits over 9 innings) is on this lsit.[/quote:1a8sk3gv]

to me its not, i'd consider the "worst losses" to involve blowing leads in spectacular fashion, failing to tie up a game despite loading the bases with nobody out, etc.
when the other pitcher just shuts you down you shrug your shoulders and get ready for tommorow. i wont remember this loss soon enough.

metirish
Jun 24 2009 04:45 AM

It's on my list. I thought it was embarrassing they way Pineiro mowed them down . I've no problem with getting shut down by an elite pitcher , he is not one of those.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 24 2009 06:49 AM

Pineiro handled a healthier version of this team during the St. Louis games, so this didn't exactly come out of nowhere. "This team," by the way, was a couple of different roster moves away from starting Wily Mo Pena and Argenis Reyes.

All of which is to say, I respectfully disagree-- this doesn't come close to the neighborhood of being in the vicinity of shouting distance of my list.

Centerfield
Jun 24 2009 07:54 AM

Last night's game pissed me off, and it's about as "unfun" as a game can be, but it wasn't the kind that rips your heart out and stomps on it. I'm serious, I think this contest is over after the Castillo game.

Gwreck
Jun 24 2009 07:58 AM

I don't disagree, but the thread title says "Losses" (ie. plural).

Centerfield
Jun 24 2009 08:03 AM

That's true. For me, the Castillo Game, the Pittsburgh game, the Church Misses Third Game, and the Murphy Drops the Fly Ball game were all worse.

I think last night would have been a miserable game to go to. But as long as I could change the channel, last night wasn't excruciating.

metirish
Jun 24 2009 08:05 AM

I'm sure there will be worse losses and yeah the Castillo game will live long in my memory but last nights game while it didn't claw my heart out it was in my opinion a shitty loss, we waste a fine start by Hernandez and can't touch the other guy and our manager didn't paint himself in glory either.

themetfairy
Jun 24 2009 08:11 AM

I'm with CF here. The worst losses are the Castillo-esque ones.

Last night was just a bad game, but it didn't grab defeat from the jaws of victory in a heart-wrenching manner.

Hawkeye57
Jun 24 2009 08:23 AM

Agreed, two hitters happen every now and again and aren't always remembered. Castillo's error, missing third base, those things will probably be remembered more than a two hitter.

Wouldn't rate yesterday as a huge loss, but it was tough.

Gwreck
Jun 24 2009 08:44 AM

I'm very surprised to be so strongly outvoted here.

For the record, there have been a total of three other games put in this thread:

1. Church misses third/Reed throwing error to end game (at LA)
2. Bullpen meltdown (at Pittsburgh)
3. Castillo drops flyball (at Yankees).

---

I guess I missed the memo where this list was limited to 3 games.

Edgy DC
Jun 24 2009 08:49 AM

It seems to be elusive that you're not trying to knock the Castillo game down the list, but rather trying to add to the bottom.

I think you should flesh out a top ten right NOW!!!! and then we can argue and (hopefully not) add to the list and knock some games off of it as the season progresses.

As long as we similarly maintain the list of top wins.

metirish
Jun 24 2009 08:53 AM

="Gwreck"]I'm very surprised to be so strongly outvoted here. For the record, there have been a total of three other games put in this thread: 1. Church misses third/Reed throwing error to end game (at LA) 2. Bullpen meltdown (at Pittsburgh) 3. Castillo drops flyball (at Yankees). --- I guess I missed the memo where this list was limited to 3 games.


Thanks for this little list......I am going to add last nights game to that list , will it be there at the end of the season as one of the worst losses? , maybe not but right now it is.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 24 2009 09:21 AM

I'm gonna throw last Thursday's game onto this list, at No. 4, and suggest April 21 at St. Louis for No. 5 (Perez blows a 4-0 lead, Murphy misplays a fly ball into a triple, Putz sucks, Mets lose 6-4).

Edgy DC
Jun 24 2009 09:25 AM

6-4 is the score of the season.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 24 2009 09:35 AM

Second all of JCL's choices.

We're missing a bunch of Phil losses, no?

The two blown-in-the-seventh Phils losses on 6/10 and 6/11 (Beltran dropped flyball opens gates for three runs in 7th, 5-4 loss in extra innings on Utley HR, spoiled Pelf start; and Redding spoils his own 3-1 lead/Ibanez nails Takahashi in 11th) stung.

Also, I was in CBP for the walking party on 5/2 (Ollie walks 6/doesn't last 3; Takahashi makes great debut, but Feliciano tagged by Ibanez; Mets come back behind Castro and Murphy HRs; Beltran first-and-third DP in top of 11 kills a threat, followed by Bad Sean Green walking Victorino for winning run). It sucked.

Fman99
Jun 24 2009 09:58 AM

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":ys44xiw2] Also, I was in CBP for the walking party on 5/2 (Ollie walks 6/doesn't last 3; Takahashi makes great debut, but Feliciano tagged by Ibanez; Mets come back behind Castro and Murphy HRs; Beltran first-and-third DP in top of 11 kills a threat, followed by Bad Sean Green walking Victorino for winning run). It sucked.[/quote:ys44xiw2]

I'd add this one. I watched this on TV and it was a turd. Anytime the Cryin Hawaiian is scoring the winning run against the Mets auto-qualifies for this list doesn't it?

Frayed Knot
Jun 24 2009 10:43 AM

I view this thread a way to track those games which either are, or will be, eligible for a 'Top 10' (read: bottom) at the end of the year.
We've had those best/worst 10 threads in the past although it's much tougher trying to reconstruct those by looking back than it is tallying them as they go by.

Bottom line: I'm OK nominating last night's even though I agree with the view that I don't think it'll make my final cut.

Gwreck
Jun 24 2009 11:46 AM

I guess the Johan meltdown in the Bronx also goes in the bottom 10.

SteveJRogers
Jul 05 2009 02:20 PM

I'm nominating all three games from this weekend, 7/3-7/5.

As much of a must sweep/take two out of three as a series can be in the first week of July, and the Mets end up getting swept, falling 5 back in the loss column.

A lost weekend to be sure.

Fman99
Jul 05 2009 07:16 PM

This was an awful series to be sure, but none of these games have that crotchpunchitude that some of the other ones do. Even the bad defense on Saturday was after they were trailing and didn't really affect the score.

So, to me, none of these games as individual events make this list.

metirish
Jul 05 2009 07:30 PM

I think I have become immune to such losses and this weekend sweep was not the least surprising.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 05 2009 10:25 PM

This weekend-- right up to and including today's Johan Game TM-- had a sick inexorability to it.

Depressing, yes. But, sadly, all too expected.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 17 2009 08:56 PM

I'm going to nominate Thursday's game, a 5-3 loss to the Braves in the first game back from the Break.

Very typical of the 09 Mets but for the fact nobody got hurt and nobody made an egregious error. But a loss like so many others: Not enough offense, all the scoring confined to a single inning, outs and at-bats given away. We were tied and played not to lose, wasting our best relievers who needed (and received) bailouts from the back-end anyway, so everyone is good and used up in the first game of a 10-game road trip.

Not to mention it snapped another modest win streak at 2-games, cost us third place in the standings, illustrated the folly of the Francoeur trade in his first chance for revenge, and brought everyone's spirits down in time for a 11-run waffling Friday and another series we won't win.

Despite all the worthy candidates already on this fine list, this was the first loss of the year after which I said, yes, I think they're done. Pull the plug.

Farmer Ted
Jul 17 2009 09:47 PM

They're sellers at this point. Mos def.

Fman99
Aug 04 2009 08:30 PM

Ha! Found it first.

Pujols extra innings grand slam. Assuming the Cards hold on, 12-7.

Edgy DC
Aug 04 2009 08:35 PM

Ugh. Premature bookage.

Kong76
Aug 04 2009 08:42 PM

Have to admit I went fishing for this thread too before it was over.

Fman99
Aug 04 2009 08:44 PM

="Edgy DC":10jo8uvo]Ugh. Premature bookage.[/quote:10jo8uvo]

Yeah, as soon as the ball left PooHoles' bat. I know, ya gotta believe, yada yada yada, but hell.

Edgy DC
Aug 08 2009 09:02 AM

August 7: The Mets score two in the first and then go into offensive cryongeinic sleep, which is a pity because Oliver Perez turns in his best outing of the year, absoultely dominating the Padres with six innings of non-walky shutout ball. When he falters in the seventh abnd gives up half his two-run lead, Brian Stokes comes in and bails him out huge time.

No matter, as Francisco Rodriguez enters in the ninth, has nothing on his fastball, and walks the leadoff batter. Ultimately, he faces five batters, retires none, and tops his appearance by giving up a game-winning grand slam to a mostly punchless shortstop scarcely out of A-ball.

Chunky and grumpy ex-Met Heath Bell walks off with the win.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 08 2009 04:52 PM

="Edgy DC":2zh033cf]August 7: The Mets score two in the first and then go into offensive cryongeinic sleep, which is a pity because Oliver Perez turns in his best outing of the year, absoultely dominating the Padres with six innings of non-walky shutout ball. When he falters in the seventh abnd gives up half his two-run lead, Brian Stokes comes in and bails him out huge time. No matter, as Francisco Rodriguez enters in the ninth, has nothing on his fastball, and walks the leadoff batter. Ultimately, he faces five batters, retires none, and tops his appearance by giving up a game-winning grand slam to a mostly punchless shortstop scarcely out of A-ball. Chunky and grumpy ex-Met Heath Bell walks off with the win.[/quote:2zh033cf]

Add the aspect of a blown call to let the tying run score that nobody-- save G-Fafif-- is really complaining about, since the BS felt so sickeningly inevitable anyway, and the ump didn't put the leadoff guy on or let Venable whack it, yadda yadda yadda.

The 10:05 start always gives a bad west-coast loss five points extra-credit, as well.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 16 2009 11:06 AM

8/15, Giants, 5-4 (10).

Let's go through the nightmare scenario checklist:

Last man standing/face of franchise/best all-around player during the last four years hit in head by 94-mph fastball? Check.

Ace/only Met to believe in roughed up by a free-swinging lineup Bobby Parnell shut down a day earlier? Check.

Dongs for insurance and go-ahead runs hit by two players against whom said ace "sent a message?" Check.

Gift of blown save (again) from Giant sorta-closer promptly returned? Check.

No dropped popups, and not to the Phils/Yanks/Braves, but it's a contender.

Kong76
Aug 16 2009 11:18 AM

Funny, I was thinking on the subway that the only thing that didn't go wrong
was Murphy and Castillo didn't hurt each other in right field on one play.

Castillo was limpy for a minute but he's kinda limpy anyway.

I hope they shut Wright down for the rest of the season at this point with the
team's luck and track record with injuries especially ones to the coconut.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 23 2009 11:04 PM

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290823121:3q7nwdhz]This one[/url:3q7nwdhz]'s got to go in the scrapbook, no? Demoralization early, then increasing interest with the scrapping and the Misching (even as chances get squandered), then the adrenaline rush of the 9th-inning comeback... and the car crash cardiac arrest of the close. And all against our favorite delinquents from down the 'Pike.

For a game in which a literal once-in-a-lifetime play delivered the sword stroke to the shoulder blades, what's startling is how routine this feels by now. We're about one game-lost-by-catcher's-interference-followed-by-South-American-football-stadium-style-Pepsi Porch collapse from filling out the "Worst Season Ever" bingo card.

metirish
Aug 24 2009 07:50 AM

Just me but no loss this past month and more warrants being in this thread , nothing surprises , nothing even hurts anymore......it's nothingness .

G-Fafif
Aug 24 2009 07:52 AM

It might be more efficient to start a thread cataloguing which losses aren't the worst of 2009. Tidier anyway.

metsguyinmichigan
Aug 24 2009 08:04 AM

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":7lkl3daw][url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290823121:7lkl3daw]This one[/url:7lkl3daw]'s got to go in the scrapbook, no? Demoralization early, then increasing interest with the scrapping and the Misching (even as chances get squandered), then the adrenaline rush of the 9th-inning comeback... and the car crash cardiac arrest of the close. And all against our favorite delinquents from down the 'Pike. For a game in which a literal once-in-a-lifetime play delivered the sword stroke to the shoulder blades, what's startling is how routine this feels by now. We're about one game-lost-by-catcher's-interference-followed-by-South-American-football-stadium-style-Pepsi Porch collapse from filling out the "Worst Season Ever" bingo card.[/quote:7lkl3daw]

Brilliant!

Actually, you're missing the "best player tagged in steroid scandal" box on the card, but the Yankees already filled that one in this year.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 24 2009 08:09 AM

="metirish":2gf3l66x]Just me but no loss this past month and more warrants being in this thread , nothing surprises , nothing even hurts anymore......it's nothingness .[/quote:2gf3l66x]

I agree. The losses are worse (and the wins are better) when the games aren't meaningless.

metsmarathon
Aug 24 2009 08:10 AM

i'm really not sure if the circumstances surrounding last night's game warrant its inclusion in this thread. i feel its much more of a tip-your-cap kind of loss.

this was a different kind of loss than the luis castillo popup. a very different animal. this was no blown save, no missed third base.

if the roles had been reversed - the phils down two, two men on, no outs, top nine - they send the runners, castillo moves over to cover the bag, and gets a screaming liner hit right at him... that pops out of his glove as he prematurely looks down to step on the bag for the second out, and subsequently allows both runners to score - well, then it would belong in this thread.

history jumped up and bit us on the ass. c'est la vie, i guess...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 24 2009 09:13 AM

="metsmarathon"]i'm really not sure if the circumstances surrounding last night's game warrant its inclusion in this thread. i feel its much more of a tip-your-cap kind of loss. this was a different kind of loss than the luis castillo popup. a very different animal. this was no blown save, no missed third base. if the roles had been reversed - the phils down two, two men on, no outs, top nine - they send the runners, castillo moves over to cover the bag, and gets a screaming liner hit right at him... that pops out of his glove as he prematurely looks down to step on the bag for the second out, and subsequently allows both runners to score - well, then it would belong in this thread. history jumped up and bit us on the ass. c'est la vie, i guess...


Fair point. And I'd be lying if I said this killed me as much as even the Pittsburgh game from June. These games don't sting anymore.

But on a lazy Sunday, driving back from southern NJ, Howie and Whatshisface dragged me back somewhat in for a day. Plus, losing to Philly when you've got a legitimate shot at the end that didn't seem at all possible an hour earlier... doesn't it ache something fierce? (Spoiling the Phils is about the only thing I'm really hoping for, Mets-wise, for the season's remainder. Hate is all I have left.)

metsmarathon
Aug 24 2009 10:08 AM

it does. but this is an ache i can live with - an 'oh well, you got me' kind of ache. like when your pitcher puts his pitch right were he wanted to, and the batter still manages to push a soft fly ball into short right field. you do your best, and if they beat you they beat you.

its like that pitch vlad hit a week or so ago that actually bounced in front of home plate - i mean, what are you going to do there but say, "damn, he got me there"?

dgwphotography
Aug 24 2009 01:58 PM

="metsmarathon":1snick2b]history jumped up and bit us on the ass. [/quote:1snick2b]

Your 2009 marketing slogan.

Edgy DC
Aug 24 2009 02:00 PM

Well, something has to be 10th.

metsmarathon
Aug 25 2009 08:22 AM

i'm gonna wander out on a limb and suggest that johan santana might well be the worst loss of 2009...