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PiggiesTomatoes
May 23 2009 06:56 AM

This is going from stupid to really stupid.

Edgy DC
May 23 2009 08:41 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 23 2009 10:21 AM

I think we should actually be quiet about it. If a ruined form of baseball is happening at Yankee Stadium, far be it from me to raise a ruckus.

Fman99
May 23 2009 09:43 AM

Hopefully some of them hit Yankee fans in the mouth.

Benjamin Grimm
May 23 2009 09:50 AM

I haven't really been paying attention to this story.

Are people seeing the home runs as a problem? (By "people" I mean two categories: idiot Yankee fans and the rest of the baseball world.)

We've seen other organizations take steps to make their ballparks less homer-happy. (I'm thinking of the Phillies and the Rockies.) But I'm not sure that it's universally accepted that too many home runs are a bad thing. Especially not in Yankeeland, where they can pretend that they have nine Babe Ruths.

Edgy DC
May 23 2009 10:22 AM

And so let them pretend, and then let them overpay all the empty suits.

Frayed Knot
May 23 2009 11:16 AM

="Benjamin Grimm"]Are people seeing the home runs as a problem? (By "people" I mean two categories: idiot Yankee fans and the rest of the baseball world.) ... But I'm not sure that it's universally accepted that too many home runs are a bad thing. Especially not in Yankeeland, where they can pretend that they have nine Babe Ruths.


several problems I think:

1) this stadium is so far out-doing the pre-humidor Coors in it's early days and Coors was unlike anything MLB had seen up to that point. Now it's still just a small sample and I suspect things will calm down at least a bit over time, but the fact that it's so far out of whack is what has tongues wagging

2) the Yanx themselves, as well as MFY fans, like to think of their place as challenging for hitters.
They were fond of telling 'death valley' stories and many continued to act as if it still existed even years after they shortened the LCF fence three separate times (lopping some 20 yards off total) as if those were just minor cosmetic changes. Announcers liked to claim; "well that would have been a homer in any other park" on shots to LCF and did so about ten times for every one time they'd admit that the dinker to RF would NOT have been a HR in any other park. It's as if admitting that even parts of the park were hitter-friendly would somehow diminish the accomplishments of Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio & Mantle. Better to keep the fairy tales alive: 'Mickey hit his HRs in a REAL park and in a REAL era' (ignore that 296 sign on the 3-ft high fence behind the curtain) ... or; 'Joe D. would have hit 600 anywhere else', etc.

3) they didn't plan on this.
The distances in the new place are near-exact to YSII and the stadium alignment isn't any different. YSII played pretty much as a neutral park in recent years (although always with a RF/LF imbalance making up that average-ness). If there is a wind problem as some claim to feel (although I wonder how much of that is power of suggestion) it wasn't something they foresaw even though they claim to have considered it. So the fact that HRs are going out at a record pace implies that mistakes were made in the design and the Yanquis don't make mistakes.

metirish
May 23 2009 11:32 AM

I think in MFY land they hate the thought that they have become a National punch line in regards to their $1.8 Billion stadium.....that's 75 home runs in I think 20 home games...how many have been his at Citi Field?

Edgy DC
May 23 2009 01:54 PM

Along with grossly overestimating the market for their ringside barcaloungers.

Ceetar
May 23 2009 02:44 PM

and another.

They should think about signing Bonds. I'm sure he can still DH and pop up to RF for 85+ HR.

Frayed Knot
May 23 2009 03:09 PM

="metirish":t8b5dba9]I think in MFY land they hate the thought that they have become a National punch line in regards to their $1.8 Billion stadium.....that's 75 home runs in I think 20 home games...how many have been his at Citi Field?[/quote:t8b5dba9]

31 HRs in 20 games at CF - 14 by the Mets, 17 against
Thing is, that's actually a slightly higher clip than have been hit during NYM games on the road:
27 HRs in 21 games - 13 by Mets, 14 off Mets

That's why these park factors can't be judged too quickly. Sometimes it's just a matter of the team who plays there. If it's the park then you'd be likely to see both HRs for and HRs against climb while the Mets are on the road. If not then it's probably just the case that the Mets simply don't hit many HRs themselves while also not letting up many.
The team is near the league low on both lists.

Frayed Knot
May 23 2009 03:16 PM

YSIII = 82 in 21 games (not counting today's in-progress)
42 for the home team, 40 against

In 21 road games they've 'only' hit 27 and given up 22

That home/road difference points much more to the park than does the CF one.

Overall the Yanx are tops in the AL at hitting HRs and 2nd from the top at serving them up.




And, as I'm typing, John Mayberry Jr. clocks a 3R HR in his ML debut (2nd AB).

Swan Swan H
May 23 2009 03:35 PM

Heeee. After Mayberry hit the homer Fox showed his father, former Yankee and Royals first baseman John Mayberry Sr., cheering in the stands. One problem - it wasn't him. He's not even at the game. Hoo boy.

OE: Check that - he really is at the game, just not the guy they were showing.

Swan Swan H
May 23 2009 04:38 PM

6:37 PM and it's the bottom of the ninth? If it doesn't go to extras this may be the shortest Yankee game since Mel Stottlemyre retired.

Swan Swan H
May 23 2009 04:41 PM

Oops.

OlerudOwned
May 23 2009 04:46 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 23 2009 04:57 PM

Swan Swan H
May 23 2009 04:57 PM

Lidge's suckitude is another reason to not get overly concerned about the Phillies.

Kong76
May 23 2009 05:07 PM

That was an epic flare off the bat of Rodriguez, he's a true champion.

Swan Swan H
May 23 2009 05:08 PM

Really. That ball is caught 10 feet in front of the wall in any other ballpark in America.

Nymr83
May 23 2009 05:11 PM

="Kong76":3282zh40]That was an epic flare off the bat of Rodriguez, he's a true champion.[/quote:3282zh40]

it helped the Mets out indirectly, therefore he is not clutch.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 23 2009 05:58 PM

Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.

metirish
May 23 2009 06:04 PM

Rogers took them to The Yankee Tavern for a few beers.

Triple Dee
May 24 2009 03:57 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 24 2009 04:13 AM

="Ceetar":3ocnox73]and another. They should think about signing Bonds. I'm sure he can still DH and pop up to RF for 85+ HR.[/quote:3ocnox73]

Well, it's good to see the MFY's are considerate enough to cater for their fans who may be feeling nostalgic about their team during the Steriod era.

Triple Dee
May 24 2009 04:11 AM

="Frayed Knot":f1kidtq8] several problems I think: 1) this stadium is so far out-doing the pre-humidor Coors in it's early days and Coors was unlike anything MLB had seen up to that point. Now it's still just a small sample and I suspect things will calm down at least a bit over time, but the fact that it's so far out of whack is what has tongues wagging [/quote:f1kidtq8]

Or Mo's cinnamon-scented farts are blowing the balls out of the park.

Frayed Knot
May 24 2009 08:07 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 24 2009 08:35 AM

Single season record = 303, Coors Field, 1999
And that one was at a mile high, pre-humidor, and in the midst of the steroid era.


Current pace at YSIII = 309

Edgy DC
May 24 2009 08:26 AM

And A-Rod is just getting started.

MFS62
May 24 2009 08:38 AM

="Frayed Knot":8fjosmmd]Single season record = 303, Coors Field, 1999 And that one was at a mile high, pre-humidor, and in the midst of the steroid era. Current pace at YSIII = 309[/quote:8fjosmmd]
If Jeter hits the one that breaks the record, will it be considered a good thing or a bad thing?
By us?
By MLB?
By Jon Sterling?
By Yankee fans in general?

Later

Frayed Knot
May 24 2009 11:58 AM

Maybe it's time for John Sterling to update his home-run call:

It's not high ... It's not far ... But it's gone anyway!!!

Frayed Knot
May 24 2009 02:49 PM

Teixeira today with a broken bat.
Not a cracked bat mind you but one that shattered in his hands leaving him only with a small piece of the handle while the barrel and splinters flew all over the infield.
The ball went about 7 rows deep into LF.

MFS62
May 24 2009 05:20 PM

So, what this all boils down to is, Yankee Stadium, the place that Yankee fans consider to be the "temple of baseball" - is now a joke. Just like the names they used to call Shea.

And there's no way they can spin it.

I'm lovin' every minute of this.

Later

Willets Point
May 24 2009 06:42 PM

With all the homeruns flying out of the new ballpark, I suggest that we start calling in Yankee Stadium 3-D!

Swan Swan H
May 24 2009 07:05 PM

Haw! Wouldn't it be fun to see all those empty suits and swinging dicks scattered through millionaires' row wearing 3-D glasses?

Fman99
May 24 2009 09:09 PM

="MFS62":3mg1jjda]So, what this all boils down to is, Yankee Stadium, the place that Yankee fans consider to be the "temple of baseball" - is now a joke. Just like the names they used to call Shea. And there's no way they can spin it. I'm lovin' every minute of this. Later[/quote:3mg1jjda]

I hadn't thought of it that way but I approve of your logic.

Elster88
May 27 2009 05:58 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 27 2009 06:19 PM

="Frayed Knot":uay8wvqu]Teixeira today with a broken bat. Not a cracked bat mind you but one that shattered in his hands leaving him only with a small piece of the handle while the barrel and splinters flew all over the infield. The ball went about 7 rows deep into LF.[/quote:uay8wvqu]

Listening to sports talk on a random station in DC they played the radio call of this play. The hosts ripped up Sterling both for the cartoonish-style call and for not mentioning that Texeira broke his bat. It seems that they know what an idiot that guy is around the country.

Elster88
May 27 2009 05:59 PM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":su3m89ss]Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.[/quote:su3m89ss]

Now that's just insulting.

Elster88
May 27 2009 06:39 PM

="metirish":37124ase]Rogers took them to The Yankee Tavern for a few beers.[/quote:37124ase]

The bartender kept trying to impress me by talking about all these awards his liquor won in the fifties back before they had draft beer.

seawolf17
May 27 2009 06:59 PM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2b607477]Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.[/quote:2b607477]
Huh?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 27 2009 07:39 PM

="seawolf17":1hdt22ta]
="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1hdt22ta]Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.[/quote:1hdt22ta] Huh?[/quote:1hdt22ta]

Just busting yer Yankee-Lovin chops.

Say hi to Hank for me.

seawolf17
May 27 2009 07:44 PM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22bx65ep]
="seawolf17":22bx65ep]
="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22bx65ep]Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.[/quote:22bx65ep] Huh?[/quote:22bx65ep] Just busting yer Yankee-Lovin chops. Say hi to Hank for me.[/quote:22bx65ep]
Double huh?

duan
Jun 08 2009 06:27 AM

="Willets Point":14bhkrrc]With all the homeruns flying out of the new ballpark, I suggest that we start calling in Yankee Stadium 3-D![/quote:14bhkrrc]

has this calmed down at all?

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2009 06:38 AM

Slightly.

100 HRs in 28 games: 53 by Yanx, 47 by opponents.

That's still a ton but, at 3.57/game, the pace is down from when it was closer to 4/per.
And that's just lower enough to where they're no longer on pace to break the Coors Field 1999 mark.

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2009 07:59 PM

5 more HRs tonight
105 in 29 games
3.62/game = 293 for the season
Record is 303 in Coors Field 1999

Also, Teixeira, Cano, Damon & Cabrera are on pace for their best HR seasons of their career (by 8, 7, 10 & 9)
Jeter & Swisher are on a pace to about equal their bests
Leaving the only regulars who aren't on a personal record pace as the 35 y/o Matsui, plus ARod & Posada who both missed about half the season so far.

soupcan
Jun 09 2009 08:23 AM

Makes me curious as to what our homer-weary boys will do this weekend at the band-box in the Bronx.

HahnSolo
Jun 09 2009 09:10 AM

The Damon HR was comical last night. When he hit the ball, he put his head down in disgust that he had popped the ball up. It landed three rows over the wall.
Didn't stop Sterling from calling it a "Johnny Rocket" I bet.

soupcan
Jun 09 2009 09:13 AM

IT IS HIGH...up!
IT IS...not so...FAR!
However, IT....IS....GONE!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 09 2009 09:33 AM

="HahnSolo":1nvohjim]The Damon HR was comical last night. When he hit the ball, he put his head down in disgust that he had popped the ball up. It landed three rows over the wall. Didn't stop Sterling from calling it a "Johnny Rocket" I bet.[/quote:1nvohjim]

Was there last night.

The Damon one was indeed ridiculous... but the Jeter one (just making the seats) and even the Swisher one (a well-struck but lazy fly that ended up carrying a shit-ton and landing past the first seating area in right-center) weren't far behind.

By the third, the fans were standing up for any flyball into the gap. I'm thinking Churchy and Muffy-- hell, Cora, even-- should start aiming at the Subway sign during Phils BP... this weekend could make for some nice number inflation.

Frayed Knot
Jun 10 2009 06:27 AM

Newsday: Fences are shorter

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ ... 7160.story


excerpts:

The barrage of home runs at new Yankee Stadium is being caused by shorter dimensions, not weather, according to AccuWeather.com. The meteorology company said Tuesday that 20 of the 105 home runs hit at the $1.5 billion ballpark would not have gone out of the old Yankee Stadium. "For someone attending a game at the new Yankee Stadium or watching on TV, the size of the playing field appears to be the same," AccuWeather meteorologist Tim Buckley said in a statement Tuesday. {I guess he's got a reason to believe} "The dimensions at select corners of the field are identical -- and the posted numbers on the walls reflect that. However, detailed schematics of the park reveal some nuances that have significant implications." AccuWeather agreed with the conclusions of Greg Rybarczyk of hittrackeronline.com, who said in April that right field in the new ballpark was shorter. The Yankee insist that the dimensions are exactly the same. "The wall structure is slightly different than the old park," AccuWeather said. "The main difference involves curvature. The gentle curve from right field to center field seen in original Yankee Stadium has largely been eliminated at the new stadium ... due in large part to the presence of a manual scoreboard embedded within the wall. Losing this curvature has resulted in a right field that is shorter by four-to-five feet on average, but up to nine feet in spots. "Not only is the famed short porch even shorter in the new stadium, but the walls themselves are not as tall. In the old ballpark, the walls in right field stood at a height of approximately 10 feet. At this height, it was difficult for outfielders to scale the wall and attempt to rob a home run over the fence. Fast forward to 2009, and the outfielders have been scaling the wall without any trouble. The result? The new outfield fences only rise to a height of eight feet, adding to the ease hitting a home run to right." The new Yankee Stadium is on pace for 293 homers, 10 shy of the major league record hit at Denver's Coors Field in 1999 and an 83 percent increase from the 160 hit at original Yankee Stadium, last year.

Frayed Knot
Jun 18 2009 08:15 PM

Today's (night's) 3-0 MFY loss to the Nats was, I believe, the first no-homer game in YSIII this season.

seawolf17
Jun 18 2009 08:37 PM

The MFYs had a little case of Metsflu tonight, getting shut out by a kid fresh off a high school ballfield somewhere. (A guy against whom, of course, the Mets bucked convention and beat recently.)