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RJ goes for #300

Frayed Knot
Jun 03 2009 11:01 AM

... against the Nationals tonight.

I'm kind of thinking that if he gets it there should be an asterisk.

metirish
Jun 03 2009 11:17 AM

Is this causing any juice around the league? I'm not all that jacked up about a 46 year old winning #300 , still I'd think about going to the game if I lived in DC......Edgy should go .

Edgy DC
Jun 03 2009 11:19 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 03 2009 11:21 AM

Thanks for helping me plan my day.

Seriously, I'm cashing in all my chits with the wife for the Mets series. They had no weekend series in DC last year.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 03 2009 11:20 AM

I'm not at all jacked.

I didn't care much about Glavine's either, and he did it as a Met. (And I'm not one of the Glavine haters.)

I cared about Seaver's. And if someone else comes along who got a significant number of wins as a Met, then I'd be more interested.

But 46-year-old Randy Johnson? Yawn.

TransMonk
Jun 03 2009 11:27 AM

Nice that he has a chance to get #300 against the organization that drafted him and where he got his first 3 wins...even if that organization has moved and he's had much more sucess in a couple other cities.

SC=100...I don't give a flip.

Fman99
Jun 03 2009 11:37 AM
Re: RJ goes for #300

="Frayed Knot":id25ilof]... against the Nationals tonight. I'm kind of thinking that if he gets it there should be an asterisk.[/quote:id25ilof]

*Pitched with mullet

metirish
Jun 03 2009 11:47 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 03 2009 11:52 AM

This is the reaction I expected. The thing is that ever since I have been following baseball I've heard about certain magic numbers....300 wins , 500 home runs . I've yet to get excited about any of it. Obviously I'm a relativity new fan and before I came to this country I knew notihng of it except what I saw in the Dire Straits video.

Things that might excite me in baseball


I might get excited I think if a NL player made a run at hitting .400 , still it would depend on who the player was. Pujols would excite me I think as he's one of the greats , obviously Wright doing it too. But if a Freddy Sanchez made a bid for it I wouldn't care much .


A player making a run at the coveted DiMaggio hits record(is that coveted?) , again it would depend on the player....not counting Mets players here because I am biased , but if Rollins made that run I would root against him. That's shallow of me but I don't care for him , he's turned into a prick IMO.

A NL pitcher going for win #25 might excite me , again depending who it was.

Adrian Gonzalez is on pace to hit 63 home runs which is cool but I have seen maybe two of them..not exciting

I think I am more excited at the prospect of watching a game with a starting pitcher striking out hitters at a high rate.

I love watching a pitcher so tuned in that the prospect of 20 SO game is possible , even if it were against the Mets that excites me.

I'm definitely more of a pitching fan yet none of the recent 300 game winners do anything for me. I'm sure I was happy for Glavine but looking back it means nothing to me.

soupcan
Jun 03 2009 11:50 AM

I love 3,000 hits so much that if Jetah evah gets there, I'd actually have to consider him a HOFer.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 03 2009 12:01 PM

I will tip my hat to Johnson, now that he's no longer a MFY, for having a nice career.

I always got the impression he was one of those really tall guys who is forever embarrassed about how tall he was, plus being you know, kinda ugly, and so probably had to overcome social and physical awkwardnesses to achieve what he has. I also asdmire that he's plugging away still even though he's not nearly what he used to be power-wise.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 03 2009 12:10 PM

When I was a kid, there were three hallowed Yankee records that I wanted to see broken, preferably by non-Yankees:

1. Roger Maris' 61 home runs.
2. Lou Gehrig's 2130 consecutive games.
3. Joe DiMaggio's (Gummo's brother) 56-game hitting streak.

(Babe Ruth's 714 would also have been on the list, but it was already in serious jeopardy by the time I started paying attention.)


I would be most intrigued, I think, by an attempt at the 56-game streak, and by a run at a .400 batting average. (As long as it's not by a disliked player, like Rollins or Jeter.) Also 30 wins by a pitcher, but that seems almost impossible today with the five-man rotation. Pitchers only get a handful more than 30 starts in a season.

Big save totals do nothing for me. 500 homers is no big deal anymore. (I never would have anticipated that.) And once Harold Baines got to 3,000 hits (or at least, close to 3,000 hits; I'm not even sure anymore that he made it) that number lost its magic as well.

Edgy DC
Jun 03 2009 12:12 PM

Harold and his purple crayon finished with 2866.

MFS62
Jun 03 2009 12:20 PM

="soupcan":gnlthwfq]I love 3,000 hits so much that if Jetah evah gets there, I'd actually have to consider him a HOFer.[/quote:gnlthwfq]
As long as he doesn't end his career as a full time DH to get there.

Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 03 2009 12:21 PM

="Benjamin Grimm"] I would be most intrigued, I think, by an attempt at the 56-game streak, and by a run at a .400 batting average. (As long as it's not by a disliked player, like Rollins or Jeter.) Also 30 wins by a pitcher, but that seems almost impossible today with the five-man rotation. Pitchers only get a handful more than 30 starts in a season.


56 is probably about it-- not least because of all of the good luck that factors into it, and the fact that it involves more than just showing up (Cal Ripken-- father of "Absenteeism?").

[Rollins was pushing it when he got to 38, methinks, and while Young Soft Rain could've done it-- maybe-- I don't think he's got the horses anymore. My guesses for the next-gen guy to come close? One of two O's-- Adam Jones or Markakis. Nice contact/line-drive rates on both, and speed to burn.]

The freakish one-gamers-- the twenty-strikeout game, the 4-HR job-- hold some allure for me, but you can't plan around 'em, and, frankly, if those sorts of things don't do it for you, you don't enjoy baseball.

Willets Point
Jun 03 2009 12:23 PM

I'm not all that interested in arbitrary round number wins. Randy Johnson's 300th win isn't all that different than his 299th or 301st win. Same goes for Gary Sheffield's 500th homerun. I was only interested in that it was a home run for the Mets.

What would get me interested is if a player breaks (or gets close to breaking) an all-time or single-season record. I was even intrigued when Craig Biggio got close to the record for HBP's.

metirish
Jun 03 2009 12:30 PM

Bobby Cox "breaking" the ejection record really got me excited...how could I forget it.

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 03 2009 12:40 PM

I was able to see Seaver's 300th with my whole family, and it was a glorious thing.

We were in attendance for Clemens' attempt at 300 against the Tigers. We bought tickets far in advance with friends, never thinking that it had potential to be an historic game.

It was a real tough day. All of us are big baseball fans, so you can't root against Clemens. But he and his cohorts are just so vile, we almost had to. Sort of sucked some of the potential joy out of it.

So Clemens left in the sixth with a lead. And then the Yankee infield started throwing the ball around, and the Tigers tied the game. The fans were all cheering, and my buddy Will was saying, "What are you cheering about? 'Yea! We DIDN'T get to see history'"

Keep in mind that this was the year the Tigers lost 139 games or something.

Being the Tigers, they tied it up, and couldn't push across the winning run. The game went something like 17 innings, with David Wells almost pitching a full game in relief.

It was the worst of all worlds. Yankees won, and we didn't get to see the historic game.

Oh, they vex me in so many ways.

On the bright side, I got to boo Jeter six or seven times instead of just four.

holychicken
Jun 03 2009 12:42 PM

I got real excited when Annabel Chong set a world record by engaging in 251 sex acts with about 70 men over a ten-hour period.

But I have a feeling that is not what we are talking about here.

Frayed Knot
Jun 03 2009 12:47 PM

I don't get overly jazzed up about "counting number" stats either ... mainly I just wanted to get the joke about the Nationals in. Hell, I used a variation of the same one almost 30 years ago when Len Barker tossed a perfect game against the then-pathetic Blue Jays (I recycle more than Al Gore).

But I also wanted to acknowledge the (potential) feat and, like JCL, I'll tip my hat to the guy for hanging around and succeeding as long as he did. He's a guy who was MUCH better in his mid/late 30s than he was in his mid/late 20s and even as little as two or three years ago I thought he was going to come up short. I won't have to hang on every pitch (he'll probably be 3 or more innings gone from the game if/when the Giants win anyway) to appreciate the accomplishment.

His will also be the last one for a while. Even Moyer's recent 250th will hold up for some time.

Edgy DC
Jun 03 2009 12:55 PM

="metsguyinmichigan"]All of us are big baseball fans, so you can't root against Clemens.

Oh, yes you ke-hen.

Johnson won 17 games (or, I should say, received credit for 17 wins) for the Yanks while posting a 5.00 ERA. That's got to be some kind of record.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 03 2009 01:09 PM

="Edgy DC"]
="metsguyinmichigan"]All of us are big baseball fans, so you can't root against Clemens.
Oh, yes you ke-hen. Johnson won 17 games (or, I should say, received credit for 17 wins) for the Yanks while posting a 5.00 ERA. That's got to be some kind of record.


Snail Trachs' 2006-- 15 wins, 4.97-- is comparable. So's Livan's 199...8? (13 wins, 5.24).

G-Fafif
Jun 03 2009 02:10 PM

I'm diggin' on the 5-0 record the Unit compiled in the '95 ALDS and the '01 WS combined at the expense of MFYs to delay and dismiss their dynasty, respectively. Those are the money wins, yo.

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 03 2009 02:24 PM

I think our concensus for the Clemens was that we rooted for a win so we could see history made, then to root for lightening strike him during the post-game celebration.

We were denied on both accounts.

Frayed Knot
Jun 03 2009 08:25 PM

Washington must have sold a bunch of tickets for this potential milestone because it's been raining all night and now, more than 3 hours past the scheduled game time, they still haven't called the game nor do they have a target time for first pitch!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 03 2009 08:49 PM

="Frayed Knot"]Washington must have sold a bunch of tickets for this potential milestone because it's been raining all night and now, more than 3 hours past the scheduled game time, they still haven't called the game nor do they have a target time for first pitch!!


Also, there's the west-coast team on an east-coast road trip thing. I'm not sure, but I don't think any of the Giants' road off-days line up with a Washington off-day/homestand.

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2009 07:20 AM

Well it turns out that they'll play an old-fashioned "twi-night" DH today with Unit going in game 1.
But I don't care what the circumstances were, four hours is way beyond reasonable for a game to be called. Especially when you see films of water pouring into dugouts like the stadium had been transported to Niagra.

Edgy DC
Jun 04 2009 07:54 AM

It was a monsoon here last night. There would have been nine fans left out there.

Hil Clinton needs to show up at the Nationals ballpark with that re-start button of hers. What a disastrous season.

G-Fafif
Jun 04 2009 02:57 PM

First pitch delayed to 5:10. Game to be shown on MLBN.

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2009 04:48 PM

Unit goes 6 innings of 1-run/2-hit ball.
Leaves after that (possibly for an injury) leading 2-1

And, yeah, it's raining.

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2009 05:53 PM

Nats had a chance to ruin it - had the sacks loaded w/2 outs in the 8th - but Adam Dunn K'd on a borderline pitch that would have tied the score if it went the other way (and given RJ an ND in the process).

Then the Nats pen followed the script by giving up several more runs in top 9 and #300 was sealed.