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IGT - Mets @ Yanx 6/14/09 -- aka: 'The Condom Game'
Frayed Knot Jun 14 2009 09:12 AM |
btw, this game is being broadcast nationally on TBS as part of their usual Sunday G-o-t-W
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HahnSolo Jun 14 2009 09:26 AM |
I know he had 3 hits yesterday, but has the rook earned batting in that #2 spot?
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MFS62 Jun 14 2009 09:40 AM |
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Well, if they bat him first, then major parts of the country are going to miss his first major league home run while TBS is away on comercial. Later
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Hawkeye57 Jun 14 2009 10:20 AM |
Castillo at 9 and Sheff at 6? I would have kept Sheffield where he was honestly. I would prefer seeing Castillo and Martinez the other way around in the order.
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 10:41 AM |
The Direct TV blimp has been around a lot today. I thought it was odd be-
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 10:48 AM |
Here's what they're sending Johan ...
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2009 11:02 AM |
The AJ stands for Ass Jockey, I'm pretty sure.
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Frayed Knot Jun 14 2009 11:13 AM |
A billion and a half dollars and the scoreboard's held up by scotch tape
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Zvon Jun 14 2009 11:15 AM |
I think a break-away scoreboard is a good idea.
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 11:50 AM |
Where the funk in Martinez throwing that ball?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 14 2009 11:53 AM |
Hey, what good's a blimp if you can't share it?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2009 11:53 AM |
Fuck, that was a 4-run inning.
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 11:55 AM |
Too much adventure for my taste.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 14 2009 11:58 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 12:00 PM |
All with 2 outs.
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Zvon Jun 14 2009 11:59 AM |
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Coulda, shoulda been only two. I think if Fmart hits that cutoff the first time we get a similar rundown / out.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 14 2009 12:03 PM |
Nice turn on the outside pitch from Schneider.
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 12:04 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 12:05 PM |
Burnett on the ropes in the 3rd with bases jammed and no one out.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2009 12:04 PM |
Juiced. We could sure use a pop fly to right now.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2009 12:06 PM |
Bullshit
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 12:07 PM |
Cora ripped, twice.
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 12:10 PM |
Feh
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 14 2009 12:13 PM |
Ugh.
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Hawkeye57 Jun 14 2009 12:13 PM |
Wow, just wow.
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bmfc1 Jun 14 2009 12:19 PM |
They get a 2 out hit from a nobody and it leads to 4 runs. Our guys can't even get a flyball with the bases loaded and less than 2 out. Pathetic.
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TheOldMole Jun 14 2009 12:22 PM |
Not scoring with bases loaded and no out bothers me a lot more than a dropped popup.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2009 12:24 PM |
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Same here. We should release Beltran, Fartinez and Cora right now.
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 12:33 PM |
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I'll disagree. His trade value should have nothing to do with where he's played, but rather his value value. And it's not the Mets' claims that his repuatation hangs on.
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 12:26 PM |
Burnett's gotta crash and burn here eventually.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 14 2009 12:27 PM |
Well, at least they only left 1 that time.
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Zvon Jun 14 2009 12:29 PM |
Boston leading the Phils 4 to 1 in the third.
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bmfc1 Jun 14 2009 12:31 PM |
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Wrong. His reputation is the sole basis for his value. |
Swan Swan H Jun 14 2009 12:33 PM |
Hell of a day for Johan to blow up.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 14 2009 12:34 PM |
Well, fuck me gently with a thorny branch.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2009 12:34 PM |
We should release Santana now.
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bmfc1 Jun 14 2009 12:36 PM |
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Your sarcasm about G-Fafif's thoughtful and passionate position is noted.
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Gwreck Jun 14 2009 12:37 PM |
Santana can struggle, whatever. Good for him.
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Ashie62 Jun 14 2009 12:40 PM |
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Let us Pray that Johan is not experiencing dead arm syndrome
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Ashie62 Jun 14 2009 12:40 PM |
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Rather fuck Thora Birch
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 12:43 PM |
Gw: Seriously, what the hell are they doing? <<<
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Frayed Knot Jun 14 2009 12:46 PM Edited 4 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 12:56 PM |
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Do you really think scouts, GMs, and player-personnel people make all their decisions on trades based strictly on some player's last two weeks? ... Or on how good the other team's mgmt claims him to be?
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Zvon Jun 14 2009 12:46 PM |
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Shouldn't players at this level know the fundamentals? I mean, we are talking basic stuff here. Hitting cutoffs, knowing that runners are on the move during 3-2 counts and 2 out pop ups, etc.
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Swan Swan H Jun 14 2009 12:48 PM |
Weird play there. If Cora tags Damon and throws right to first he may have actually gotten three, as Teixiera was about 20 feet off of first. Can't blame him for getting two, though, it was a nice pickup and the runners were all over the place.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 14 2009 12:49 PM |
So... should I go see "Up" or "The Hangover?"
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 12:49 PM |
What inning does the twelve run rule kick in?
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Frayed Knot Jun 14 2009 12:51 PM |
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I think you should drink up until you get a hangover.
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Gwreck Jun 14 2009 12:54 PM |
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Of course they should. I see it as the manager and coaches' job to enforce and reinforce that, which hasn't happened.
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Zvon Jun 14 2009 12:55 PM |
This might be the first time in my life I felt like turning off a Met game.
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 12:55 PM |
Honey, I'm going out for a 40 pack of Meister Brau.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2009 12:56 PM |
Yeah, execution has been lousy pretty much all year.
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 12:56 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 01:01 PM |
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First of all, in quoting bfmc, I deleted two sentences fo his post. I'm very sorry.
I don't understand how that disputes "And it's not the Mets' claims that his repuatation hangs on." Or really what it means.
That's not actually the question you asked.
What specifically are you quoting?
Do I really need to dig up all the independent sources that have him ranked? What do I think about him? I think he's 20. And I'd never get rich predicting a 20-year-old's future.
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bmfc1 Jun 14 2009 12:58 PM |
I hope I'm wrong about F. Martinez. I hope he hits a 14-run homerun today. And I'm not a scout and he haven't seen him play very often. But from what I've seen--this season, in ST, in Bowie last year--I haven't seen anything special. Have you or has anybody else? There have been many articles saying that the Mets won't give him up for another team's mid-level players. Is he that special? If the Twins offered Michael Cuddyer for him, should the Mets grab it or would they be justified in saying that Cuddyer's not good enough?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2009 01:01 PM |
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It was your position too and as eloquent and passionate as it was it was in service of an idea that wasn't realistic, wasn't fair, wouldn't have helped and invited criticism.
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 01:02 PM |
Release Cora now!
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Ashie62 Jun 14 2009 01:03 PM |
Almost time for a late July Mets dump. if they are going to run this type of lineup everyday with little pitching why not.
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bmfc1 Jun 14 2009 01:03 PM |
"Do I really need to dig up all the independent sources that have him ranked?"
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Ashie62 Jun 14 2009 01:04 PM |
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I would kept Fartinez as Mets rebuilding mode is most likely not far away
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bmfc1 Jun 14 2009 01:05 PM |
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Yes, it was my position too and still is. It's unrealistic because our incompetent GM a) chose to pay him until 2011 and b) doesn't have a better alternative in the system.
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Ashie62 Jun 14 2009 01:05 PM |
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Playoffs? Nuff said Keep Fmart for the 2010 dismantling
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 01:08 PM |
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It depends on your definition of special, but yes, somebody else has. I said that above.
I'd really like to know which mid-level players we're talking about.
I wouldn't trade anybody, but I'm not interested in Cuddyer.
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bmfc1 Jun 14 2009 01:09 PM |
"somebody else"--I mean you. Or FK. Or Ashie. Or JCL. Somebody in this forum.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2009 01:15 PM |
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Then why get behind it?
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Frayed Knot Jun 14 2009 01:16 PM |
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You do realize that most players his age are in Low-A ball somewhere, right?
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 01:19 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 01:27 PM |
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Well, then why are you suggesting (1) that his reputation is a product of the Mets, and that (2) nobody thinks he's special?
The guy is hitting below .200. I'm not the one who ranked him, and if I did, I certainly woulnd' decide based on a few weeks where he's an injury replacement in a league wheere he's perhaps the youngest player. Ask the rankers. They usually have a written abstract with their rankings.
And you seem to have made up your mind. Get him down because you want to trade him to save the season. I don't think that will save it. And is more than likely harmful.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 14 2009 01:20 PM |
Umps adding insult to injury.
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bmfc1 Jun 14 2009 01:22 PM |
FK: yes I do. Edgy made the same point. So he's "a 20 year old prospect. Get him out of here!" The Mets shouldn't be developing players in the majors but the absence of depth made F. Martinez's presence necessary. I understand why they called him up but I don't see what's so great about him. At this time in his career. Now. When he's 20. Do you?
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 01:25 PM |
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Pretty disgeraceful call. I'm glad Jerry bothered to come out. I sure wish he pulled Cora after he stood there on the strike three in the dirt.
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bmfc1 Jun 14 2009 01:26 PM |
Edgy: You still haven't figured out where I'm going so perhaps I'm not being clear. I never said that the Mets should trade him. I thought I asked a very simple question. Maybe it was a bad question but I don't see what's so great about him.
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Frayed Knot Jun 14 2009 01:30 PM |
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Out of where, the majors or the organization? He was here because of a rash of injuries and he's getting a look-see. He'll likely get sent back which I believe was the plan all along unless he suddenly (and unexpectedly) set the league on fire.
I'm not a professional scout and haven't seen anything other than the last two weeks where I see a young player struggling which is the norm for most of them. But you seem to be stuck in the same dichotomy as Francesa and a bunch of other know-nothings, in effect saying; 'If this guy's so great then get him up here and if he's not then get rid of him' ... as if no other options exist between those extremes.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2009 01:32 PM |
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Just so I have this straight -- you can go around spouting any matter of counterproductive and unrealistic strategies, and get offended when those strategies are gently ridiculed, because you're passionate and I'm not?
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bmfc1 Jun 14 2009 01:33 PM |
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Out of where, the majors or the organization? That was just a joke--a play on the NBC reality series.
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 01:33 PM |
I say we just keep running the draw play for three downs and keep punting.
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 01:34 PM |
No. You didn't say the Mets should trade him. You said he should be sent down to preserve his trade value.
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Ashie62 Jun 14 2009 01:35 PM |
FMart #1 Flores #2 by Baseball America
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 01:35 PM |
OK, Sheffield starts the comeback.
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Ashie62 Jun 14 2009 01:36 PM |
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Wouldn't value as a player and a trading chip be one in the same?
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 01:36 PM |
Spike Lee looks comfortable in the jerkoff seats.
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Ashie62 Jun 14 2009 01:38 PM |
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Lotsa jerkoff seats in YS3
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 01:41 PM |
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No.
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Frayed Knot Jun 14 2009 01:42 PM |
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No, because the former is based on the current while the latter (usually) on the future.
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bmfc1 Jun 14 2009 01:44 PM |
Thanks for posting that Ashie. Very interesting. I just wonder what F. Martinez has to deserve that ranking.
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Frayed Knot Jun 14 2009 01:58 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 02:52 PM |
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- show enough promise as a 16 y/o amateur to earn himself a mutli-million dollar bonus - have the type of physical prowess plus the baseball-specific skills which not only allows him to compete and succeed as a professional but also that scouts expect will allow him to grow in the sport as he advances - consistently played well in each step even as he's been advance rapidly, had to battle through several injuries, and been several rungs above the majority of his age group - been among the league's hitting leaders as a 20 y/o in AAA at the time of his call-up
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2009 02:00 PM |
This whole game goes back to those shitty calls against Cora in the 3rd. I want a do-over.
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 02:06 PM |
We'll get three.
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 02:10 PM |
Who do you like as an emergency pitcher?
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 02:11 PM |
JCL: This whole game goes back to those shitty calls against Cora in the 3rd <<<
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metsguyinmichigan Jun 14 2009 02:13 PM |
OK, I'mon vacation in Wisconsin and just jumped in. WTF? Is Santana hurt or something?
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Swan Swan H Jun 14 2009 02:15 PM |
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Waitaminute...people go to Wisconsin on vacation?
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metsguyinmichigan Jun 14 2009 02:16 PM |
Heck yeah. Wisconsin Dells. Water park capital of the world.
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 02:18 PM |
Michiganders do.
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MFS62 Jun 14 2009 02:25 PM |
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Why did the badger cross the road? ... That's all I got. Later
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Kong76 Jun 14 2009 02:29 PM |
I wouldn't mind being on a lake in Wisconsin drowning a few worms right now.
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metsguyinmichigan Jun 14 2009 02:35 PM |
Probably good I was on the road, because if home, I would have been stomping around the house yelling bad things.
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metirish Jun 14 2009 03:35 PM |
What a rubbish game to attend. I was hoping for a pitching duel but those rarely seem to happen. I thought Santana was getting squeezed early and Cora getting jobbed in the third was huge. My seat was in the bleachers but I was obstructed badly by the CF area. Lots of Mets fans there and we had a good "lets go mets" chant to counter there stupid chant.
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Rockin' Doc Jun 14 2009 03:49 PM |
This game was just painful to watch. I finally gave up after the Mets top of the 6th and decided to finish cleaning up from my daughter's graduation party. Anything seemed better than watching any more of the game.
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cooby Jun 14 2009 04:10 PM |
I thought this was moved to a night game.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 14 2009 06:04 PM |
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I went to the movies about halfway through. It seems I didn't miss a thing. But for an almost-triple-play, there was nothing remotely worth seeing. You are lucky to have missed it.
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Fman99 Jun 14 2009 07:18 PM |
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The Sunday Mets/Yanks tilt at Citi Field next month was the one they moved.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2009 07:45 PM |
Sorry for being such a douche in this thread. I suck.
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Edgy DC Jun 14 2009 08:42 PM |
What is that obstuctng the view --- a massage parlor?
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metirish Jun 14 2009 08:55 PM |
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I'd never sit there again..... I saw a lot of stupid things there today but some of the MFY fans beat all , I saw guys coming towards me wearing " I heart NY " shirts with a picture of Castillo dropping the ball friday night......
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Triple Dee Jun 16 2009 07:16 AM |
Here's a useful travel tip I'd like to share with my fellow CPFers;
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