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IGT - Mets @ Yanx 6/14/09 -- aka: 'The Condom Game'

Frayed Knot
Jun 14 2009 09:12 AM

btw, this game is being broadcast nationally on TBS as part of their usual Sunday G-o-t-W

Cora, ss
Martinez, lf
Beltran, cf
Wright, 3b
Church, rf
Sheffield, dh
Murphy, 1b
Schneider, c
Castillo, 2b

HahnSolo
Jun 14 2009 09:26 AM

I know he had 3 hits yesterday, but has the rook earned batting in that #2 spot?

MFS62
Jun 14 2009 09:40 AM

HahnSolo wrote:
I know he had 3 hits yesterday, but has the rook earned batting in that #2 spot?

Well, if they bat him first, then major parts of the country are going to miss his first major league home run while TBS is away on comercial.

Later

Hawkeye57
Jun 14 2009 10:20 AM

Castillo at 9 and Sheff at 6? I would have kept Sheffield where he was honestly. I would prefer seeing Castillo and Martinez the other way around in the order.

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 10:41 AM

The Direct TV blimp has been around a lot today. I thought it was odd be-
cause usually the blimps are only around for nationally televised games so
the TBS broadcast explains that.

Not like we'll see any TBS blimp shots because it's blacked out here.

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 10:48 AM

Here's what they're sending Johan ...

Derek Jeter SS
Johnny Damon LF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Hideki Matsui DH
Melky Cabrera CF
Francisco Cervelli C

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 14 2009 11:02 AM

The AJ stands for Ass Jockey, I'm pretty sure.

Frayed Knot
Jun 14 2009 11:13 AM

A billion and a half dollars and the scoreboard's held up by scotch tape

Zvon
Jun 14 2009 11:15 AM

I think a break-away scoreboard is a good idea.

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 11:50 AM

Where the funk in Martinez throwing that ball?

Hey, we get blimp shots.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 14 2009 11:53 AM

Hey, what good's a blimp if you can't share it?

Sit this a-hole down, Johan.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 14 2009 11:53 AM

Fuck, that was a 4-run inning.

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 11:55 AM

Too much adventure for my taste.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 14 2009 11:58 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 12:00 PM

All with 2 outs.

Zvon
Jun 14 2009 11:59 AM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Fuck, that was a 4-run inning.


Coulda, shoulda been only two.
I think if Fmart hits that cutoff the first time we get a similar rundown / out.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 14 2009 12:03 PM

Nice turn on the outside pitch from Schneider.

Scamper, Muffy, scamper!

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 12:04 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 12:05 PM

Burnett on the ropes in the 3rd with bases jammed and no one out.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 14 2009 12:04 PM

Juiced. We could sure use a pop fly to right now.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 14 2009 12:06 PM

Bullshit

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 12:07 PM

Cora ripped, twice.

If I was Manuel I'd mess with Burnett's head and go complain to blue about
all the crap he's wearing around his neck and insist it come off NOW!!!

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 12:10 PM

Feh

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 14 2009 12:13 PM

Ugh.

Hawkeye57
Jun 14 2009 12:13 PM

Wow, just wow.


How am I not used to this from this team yet?

bmfc1
Jun 14 2009 12:19 PM

They get a 2 out hit from a nobody and it leads to 4 runs. Our guys can't even get a flyball with the bases loaded and less than 2 out. Pathetic.

And they better send F. Martinez down before he loses all his trade value. Has he shown anybody here anything to make you think that he's as good as the Mets claim he is?

TheOldMole
Jun 14 2009 12:22 PM

Not scoring with bases loaded and no out bothers me a lot more than a dropped popup.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 14 2009 12:24 PM

TheOldMole wrote:
Not scoring with bases loaded and no out bothers me a lot more than a dropped popup.


Same here.

We should release Beltran, Fartinez and Cora right now.

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 12:25 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 12:33 PM

]And they better send F. Martinez down before he loses all his trade value. Has he shown anybody here anything to make you think that he's as good as the Mets claim he is?


I'll disagree. His trade value should have nothing to do with where he's played, but rather his value value.

And it's not the Mets' claims that his repuatation hangs on.

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 12:26 PM

Burnett's gotta crash and burn here eventually.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 14 2009 12:27 PM

Well, at least they only left 1 that time.

Zvon
Jun 14 2009 12:29 PM

Boston leading the Phils 4 to 1 in the third.

bmfc1
Jun 14 2009 12:31 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
]And they better send F. Martinez down before he loses all his trade value. Has he shown anybody here anything to make you think that he's as good as the Mets claim he is?


I'll disagree. His trade value should have nothing to do with where he's played, but rather his value value.

And it's not the Mets' claims that his repuatation hangs on.


Wrong. His reputation is the sole basis for his value.



My question was not answered: what has he shown to you for him to have the value that he is alleged to have?

We hear that if the Mets want even a mid-level SP, OF, or 1B, they have to trade F. Martinez and he's way too good for that.

To me, his reputation is only based upon the Mets claims.

Swan Swan H
Jun 14 2009 12:33 PM

Hell of a day for Johan to blow up.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 14 2009 12:34 PM

Well, fuck me gently with a thorny branch.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 14 2009 12:34 PM

We should release Santana now.

bmfc1
Jun 14 2009 12:36 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
We should release Santana now.


Your sarcasm about G-Fafif's thoughtful and passionate position is noted.

Gwreck
Jun 14 2009 12:37 PM

Santana can struggle, whatever. Good for him.

The staggering lack of fundamentals shows that Jerry, Razor and Sandy Alomar have quite a bit to answer for. Seriously, what the hell are they doing?

Ashie62
Jun 14 2009 12:40 PM

Swan Swan H wrote:
Hell of a day for Johan to blow up.


Let us Pray that Johan is not experiencing dead arm syndrome

Ashie62
Jun 14 2009 12:40 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Well, fuck me gently with a thorny branch.


Rather fuck Thora Birch

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 12:43 PM

Gw: Seriously, what the hell are they doing? <<<

Bucking for early dismissal.

Frayed Knot
Jun 14 2009 12:46 PM
Edited 4 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 12:56 PM

="bmfc1"]And it's not the Mets' claims that his repuatation hangs on.

His reputation is the sole basis for his value.

My question was not answered: what has he shown to you for him to have the value that he is alleged to have?

We hear that if the Mets want even a mid-level SP, OF, or 1B, they have to trade F. Martinez and he's way too good for that.

To me, his reputation is only based upon the Mets claims.




Do you really think scouts, GMs, and player-personnel people make all their decisions on trades based strictly on some player's last two weeks? ... Or on how good the other team's mgmt claims him to be?

Zvon
Jun 14 2009 12:46 PM

Gwreck wrote:
Santana can struggle, whatever. Good for him.

The staggering lack of fundamentals shows that Jerry, Razor and Sandy Alomar have quite a bit to answer for. Seriously, what the hell are they doing?


Shouldn't players at this level know the fundamentals?
I mean, we are talking basic stuff here.
Hitting cutoffs, knowing that runners are on the move during 3-2 counts and 2 out pop ups, etc.

Swan Swan H
Jun 14 2009 12:48 PM

Weird play there. If Cora tags Damon and throws right to first he may have actually gotten three, as Teixiera was about 20 feet off of first. Can't blame him for getting two, though, it was a nice pickup and the runners were all over the place.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 14 2009 12:49 PM

So... should I go see "Up" or "The Hangover?"

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 12:49 PM

What inning does the twelve run rule kick in?

Frayed Knot
Jun 14 2009 12:51 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
So... should I go see "Up" or "The Hangover?"


I think you should drink up until you get a hangover.

Gwreck
Jun 14 2009 12:54 PM

Zvon wrote:

Shouldn't players at this level know the fundamentals?
I mean, we are talking basic stuff here.
Hitting cutoffs, knowing that runners are on the move during 3-2 counts and 2 out pop ups, etc.


Of course they should. I see it as the manager and coaches' job to enforce and reinforce that, which hasn't happened.

Zvon
Jun 14 2009 12:55 PM

This might be the first time in my life I felt like turning off a Met game.
I won't though.

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 12:55 PM

Honey, I'm going out for a 40 pack of Meister Brau.

Yanks up a touchdown and two field goals, 13 - sniffle!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 14 2009 12:56 PM

Yeah, execution has been lousy pretty much all year.

Meantime, gotta roll up the sleeves and get back to work here.

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 12:56 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 01:01 PM

First of all, in quoting bfmc, I deleted two sentences fo his post. I'm very sorry.

Now. Let me respond.

bmfc1 wrote:
Wrong. His reputation is the sole basis for his value.

I don't understand how that disputes "And it's not the Mets' claims that his repuatation hangs on." Or really what it means.

]My question was not answered: what has he shown to you for him to have the value that he is alleged to have?

That's not actually the question you asked.

]We hear that if the Mets want even a mid-level SP, OF, or 1B, they have to trade F. Martinez and he's way too good for that.

What specifically are you quoting?

]To me, his reputation is only based upon the Mets claims.


Do I really need to dig up all the independent sources that have him ranked?

What do I think about him? I think he's 20. And I'd never get rich predicting a 20-year-old's future.

bmfc1
Jun 14 2009 12:58 PM

I hope I'm wrong about F. Martinez. I hope he hits a 14-run homerun today. And I'm not a scout and he haven't seen him play very often. But from what I've seen--this season, in ST, in Bowie last year--I haven't seen anything special. Have you or has anybody else? There have been many articles saying that the Mets won't give him up for another team's mid-level players. Is he that special? If the Twins offered Michael Cuddyer for him, should the Mets grab it or would they be justified in saying that Cuddyer's not good enough?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 14 2009 01:01 PM

bmfc1 wrote:
="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]We should release Santana now.


Your sarcasm about G-Fafif's thoughtful and passionate position is noted.


It was your position too and as eloquent and passionate as it was it was in service of an idea that wasn't realistic, wasn't fair, wouldn't have helped and invited criticism.

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 01:02 PM

Release Cora now!

Ashie62
Jun 14 2009 01:03 PM

Almost time for a late July Mets dump. if they are going to run this type of lineup everyday with little pitching why not.

Trade at deadline: Schneider, D. Murphy Pelfrey

Offseason: Reyes, Church , Omar-Gone

Gotta start somewhere as Mr. Laroche said the Mets are not better than the Pirates..Pathetic

People pay money at Citified to watch this daily run to the basement?

bmfc1
Jun 14 2009 01:03 PM

"Do I really need to dig up all the independent sources that have him ranked?"

I've seen them, too. But go back to my question: what does he show you to deserve such a ranking?

"What do I think about him? I think he's 20. And I'd never get rich predicting a 20-yearold's future."

Valid point but for a team that is under intense pressure to make the playoffs, you have to decide if he's worth holding onto so he can help the team, if not today then in the future, in favor of a proven player that is better right now.

Ashie62
Jun 14 2009 01:04 PM

bmfc1 wrote:
I hope I'm wrong about F. Martinez. I hope he hits a 14-run homerun today. And I'm not a scout and he haven't seen him play very often. But from what I've seen--this season, in ST, in Bowie last year--I haven't seen anything special. Have you or has anybody else? There have been many articles saying that the Mets won't give him up for another team's mid-level players. Is he that special? If the Twins offered Michael Cuddyer for him, should the Mets grab it or would they be justified in saying that Cuddyer's not good enough?


I would kept Fartinez as Mets rebuilding mode is most likely not far away

bmfc1
Jun 14 2009 01:05 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
="bmfc1"]
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
We should release Santana now.


Your sarcasm about G-Fafif's thoughtful and passionate position is noted.


It was your position too and as eloquent and passionate as it was it was in service of an idea that wasn't realistic, wasn't fair, wouldn't have helped and invited criticism.


Yes, it was my position too and still is. It's unrealistic because our incompetent GM a) chose to pay him until 2011 and b) doesn't have a better alternative in the system.

Ashie62
Jun 14 2009 01:05 PM

bmfc1 wrote:
"Do I really need to dig up all the independent sources that have him ranked?"

I've seen them, too. But go back to my question: what does he show you to deserve such a ranking?

"What do I think about him? I think he's 20. And I'd never get rich predicting a 20-yearold's future."

Valid point but for a team that is under intense pressure to make the playoffs, you have to decide if he's worth holding onto so he can help the team, if not today then in the future, in favor of a proven player that is better right now.


Playoffs? Nuff said Keep Fmart for the 2010 dismantling

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 01:08 PM

bmfc1 wrote:
But from what I've seen--this season, in ST, in Bowie last year--I haven't seen anything special. Have you or has anybody else?


It depends on your definition of special, but yes, somebody else has. I said that above.

bmfc1 wrote:
There have been many articles saying that the Mets won't give him up for another team's mid-level players.


I'd really like to know which mid-level players we're talking about.

bmfc1 wrote:
Is he that special? If the Twins offered Michael Cuddyer for him, should the Mets grab it or would they be justified in saying that Cuddyer's not good enough?

I wouldn't trade anybody, but I'm not interested in Cuddyer.

bmfc1
Jun 14 2009 01:09 PM

"somebody else"--I mean you. Or FK. Or Ashie. Or JCL. Somebody in this forum.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 14 2009 01:15 PM

bmfc1 wrote:
="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]
bmfc1 wrote:
="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]We should release Santana now.


Your sarcasm about G-Fafif's thoughtful and passionate position is noted.


It was your position too and as eloquent and passionate as it was it was in service of an idea that wasn't realistic, wasn't fair, wouldn't have helped and invited criticism.


Yes, it was my position too and still is. It's unrealistic because our incompetent GM a) chose to pay him until 2011 and b) doesn't have a better alternative in the system.


Then why get behind it?

Frayed Knot
Jun 14 2009 01:16 PM

]what does he show you to deserve such a ranking?


You do realize that most players his age are in Low-A ball somewhere, right?

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 01:19 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 01:27 PM

bmfc1 wrote:
"Do I really need to dig up all the independent sources that have him ranked?"

I've seen them, too.

Well, then why are you suggesting (1) that his reputation is a product of the Mets, and that (2) nobody thinks he's special?

bmfc1 wrote:
But go back to my question: what does he show you to deserve such a ranking?

The guy is hitting below .200. I'm not the one who ranked him, and if I did, I certainly woulnd' decide based on a few weeks where he's an injury replacement in a league wheere he's perhaps the youngest player.

Ask the rankers. They usually have a written abstract with their rankings.

bmfc1 wrote:
Valid point but for a team that is under intense pressure to make the playoffs, you have to decide if he's worth holding onto so he can help the team, if not today then in the future, in favor of a proven player that is better right now.

And you seem to have made up your mind. Get him down because you want to trade him to save the season.

I don't think that will save it. And is more than likely harmful.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 14 2009 01:20 PM

Umps adding insult to injury.

bmfc1
Jun 14 2009 01:22 PM

FK: yes I do. Edgy made the same point. So he's "a 20 year old prospect. Get him out of here!" The Mets shouldn't be developing players in the majors but the absence of depth made F. Martinez's presence necessary. I understand why they called him up but I don't see what's so great about him. At this time in his career. Now. When he's 20. Do you?

JCL: because sometimes as a fan, you are so passionate that you want what is unrealistic. Castillo didn't even run hard yesterday when the CF slipped on Beltran's flyball.

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 01:25 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Umps adding insult to injury.


Pretty disgeraceful call. I'm glad Jerry bothered to come out.

I sure wish he pulled Cora after he stood there on the strike three in the dirt.

bmfc1
Jun 14 2009 01:26 PM

Edgy: You still haven't figured out where I'm going so perhaps I'm not being clear. I never said that the Mets should trade him. I thought I asked a very simple question. Maybe it was a bad question but I don't see what's so great about him.

Frayed Knot
Jun 14 2009 01:30 PM

="bmfc1"] So he's "a 20 year old prospect. Get him out of here!"


Out of where, the majors or the organization?
He was here because of a rash of injuries and he's getting a look-see. He'll likely get sent back which I believe was the plan all along unless he suddenly (and unexpectedly) set the league on fire.

]I understand why they called him up but I don't see what's so great about him. At this time in his career. Now. When he's 20. Do you?


I'm not a professional scout and haven't seen anything other than the last two weeks where I see a young player struggling which is the norm for most of them.
But you seem to be stuck in the same dichotomy as Francesa and a bunch of other know-nothings, in effect saying; 'If this guy's so great then get him up here and if he's not then get rid of him' ... as if no other options exist between those extremes.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 14 2009 01:32 PM

bmfc1 wrote:


JCL: because sometimes as a fan, you are so passionate that you want what is unrealistic. Castillo didn't even run hard yesterday when the CF slipped on Beltran's flyball.


Just so I have this straight -- you can go around spouting any matter of counterproductive and unrealistic strategies, and get offended when those strategies are gently ridiculed, because you're passionate and I'm not?

bmfc1
Jun 14 2009 01:33 PM

bmfc1 wrote:
So he's "a 20 year old prospect. Get him out of here!"


Out of where, the majors or the organization?

That was just a joke--a play on the NBC reality series.

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 01:33 PM

I say we just keep running the draw play for three downs and keep punting.

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 01:34 PM

No. You didn't say the Mets should trade him. You said he should be sent down to preserve his trade value.

I disagreed, and think his assignment sould be based on what his value is to the team as a player, not as a trading chip. And you told me I was wrong.

Ashie62
Jun 14 2009 01:35 PM

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Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 01:35 PM

OK, Sheffield starts the comeback.

Ashie62
Jun 14 2009 01:36 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
No. You didn't say the Mets should trade him. You said he should be sent down to preserve his trade value.

I disagreed, and think his assignment sould be based on what his value is to the team as a player, not as a trading chip. And you told me I was wrong.


Wouldn't value as a player and a trading chip be one in the same?

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 01:36 PM

Spike Lee looks comfortable in the jerkoff seats.

Ashie62
Jun 14 2009 01:38 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
Spike Lee looks comfortable in the jerkoff seats.


Lotsa jerkoff seats in YS3

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 01:41 PM

Ashie62 wrote:
="Edgy DC"]No. You didn't say the Mets should trade him. You said he should be sent down to preserve his trade value.

I disagreed, and think his assignment sould be based on what his value is to the team as a player, not as a trading chip. And you told me I was wrong.


Wouldn't value as a player and a trading chip be one in the same?

No.

Frayed Knot
Jun 14 2009 01:42 PM

Ashie62 wrote:
="Edgy DC"]No. You didn't say the Mets should trade him. You said he should be sent down to preserve his trade value.

I disagreed, and think his assignment sould be based on what his value is to the team as a player, not as a trading chip. And you told me I was wrong.


Wouldn't value as a player and a trading chip be one in the same?


No, because the former is based on the current while the latter (usually) on the future.

bmfc1
Jun 14 2009 01:44 PM

Thanks for posting that Ashie. Very interesting. I just wonder what F. Martinez has to deserve that ranking.

JCL: you were more than "gentle", in my opinion. And re-read my comment: I didn't say that you were dispassionate. I just said that I was being passionate. I have too much regard for you to insult you in the manner you suggested.

This blows. We should be angry at this game. Onto Balmer.

I think I'll use this free time to take my son to see "The Hangover." Edgy, if you're in the neighborhood, we'll be at the Centerpark theaters.

Frayed Knot
Jun 14 2009 01:58 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2009 02:52 PM

bmfc1 wrote:
Thanks for posting that Ashie. Very interesting. I just wonder what F. Martinez has to deserve that ranking.


- show enough promise as a 16 y/o amateur to earn himself a mutli-million dollar bonus
- have the type of physical prowess plus the baseball-specific skills which not only allows him to compete and succeed as a professional but also that scouts expect will allow him to grow in the sport as he advances
- consistently played well in each step even as he's been advance rapidly, had to battle through several injuries, and been several rungs above the majority of his age group
- been among the league's hitting leaders as a 20 y/o in AAA at the time of his call-up

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 14 2009 02:00 PM

This whole game goes back to those shitty calls against Cora in the 3rd. I want a do-over.

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 02:06 PM

We'll get three.

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 02:10 PM

Who do you like as an emergency pitcher?

Wilson Valdez?
Omir Santos?
Gary Sheffield?

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 02:11 PM

JCL: This whole game goes back to those shitty calls against Cora in the 3rd <<<

Try pulling that one out at the water cooler tomorrow.

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 14 2009 02:13 PM

OK, I'mon vacation in Wisconsin and just jumped in. WTF? Is Santana hurt or something?

Swan Swan H
Jun 14 2009 02:15 PM

="metsguyinmichigan"]OK, I'mon vacation in Wisconsin and just jumped in. WTF? Is Santana hurt or something?


Waitaminute...people go to Wisconsin on vacation?

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 14 2009 02:16 PM

Heck yeah. Wisconsin Dells. Water park capital of the world.

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 02:18 PM

Michiganders do.

People in Minnesota tell Wisconsin jokes, if you believe Garrison Keillor.

MFS62
Jun 14 2009 02:25 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
Michiganders do.

People in Minnesota tell Wisconsin jokes, if you believe Garrison Keillor.


Why did the badger cross the road? ...
That's all I got.

Later

Kong76
Jun 14 2009 02:29 PM

I wouldn't mind being on a lake in Wisconsin drowning a few worms right now.

Game over, hard to decide if this was uglier than Friday for me.

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 14 2009 02:35 PM

Probably good I was on the road, because if home, I would have been stomping around the house yelling bad things.

We're on kind of an extended family trip -- all the in-laws on my wife's side of the family. Wisconsin is actually beautiful. Went on a cruise up the northern Dells today, toured a cave yesterday and kind of a funky circus museum -- Ringling Bros. was started here. I'm not a circus guy, but this was pretty interactive and fun, kids liked it.

Going to a waterskiiing show tonight.

It's a big touristy area with some strange things. There's a giant upside down White House, and you tour it by walking around on the ceiling. Really.

Freaking Jeter.

metirish
Jun 14 2009 03:35 PM

What a rubbish game to attend. I was hoping for a pitching duel but those rarely seem to happen. I thought Santana was getting squeezed early and Cora getting jobbed in the third was huge. My seat was in the bleachers but I was obstructed badly by the CF area. Lots of Mets fans there and we had a good "lets go mets" chant to counter there stupid chant.

I was out and gone from my seat for good by the start of the fourth inning , yeah it sucked that much. I spent the rest of my time walking around and taking a few pictures.

Her is my impression of yankee stadium III , wow it's just not that impressive , it's very big but way to much concrete , waking around the various concourses was nothing special , again lots of concrete where Citi Field has a mix and the concourses look and feel better .

The food court area on the first level is nothing and it's inside set back from the concourse .

The hallway that you keep hearing about? , yeah so it's like walking through a shopping mall , really it's nothing great , I much prefer the look at Citi Field where they have the players all along the front , they have that inside that hallway.

Obviously I am biased but I'm being as honest as I can be here , this stadium is impressive in it's size but the feeling there is just not that pleasurable, not sure if that is the correct word to use but I'll use it.

my seat

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Rockin' Doc
Jun 14 2009 03:49 PM

This game was just painful to watch. I finally gave up after the Mets top of the 6th and decided to finish cleaning up from my daughter's graduation party. Anything seemed better than watching any more of the game.

cooby
Jun 14 2009 04:10 PM

I thought this was moved to a night game.


Also, rubbish is a good word; I love how metirish talks

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 14 2009 06:04 PM

cooby wrote:
I thought this was moved to a night game.


Also, rubbish is a good word; I love how metirish talks



I went to the movies about halfway through. It seems I didn't miss a thing.

But for an almost-triple-play, there was nothing remotely worth seeing. You are lucky to have missed it.

Fman99
Jun 14 2009 07:18 PM

cooby wrote:
I thought this was moved to a night game.


Also, rubbish is a good word; I love how metirish talks


The Sunday Mets/Yanks tilt at Citi Field next month was the one they moved.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 14 2009 07:45 PM

Sorry for being such a douche in this thread. I suck.

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2009 08:42 PM

What is that obstuctng the view --- a massage parlor?

metirish
Jun 14 2009 08:55 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
What is that obstuctng the view --- a massage parlor?



I'd never sit there again.....

I saw a lot of stupid things there today but some of the MFY fans beat all , I saw guys coming towards me wearing " I heart NY " shirts with a picture of Castillo dropping the ball friday night......

Triple Dee
Jun 16 2009 07:16 AM

Here's a useful travel tip I'd like to share with my fellow CPFers;

Don't look-up Mets scores while on holidays. They may ruin what is potentially a great vacation.