="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2d1pgd9t]By the Mets' recent standards this move was lightning quick.
Perhaps now the mediots won't walk around pretending its a good thing that Oliver Perez is out.[/quote:2d1pgd9t]
Good point , any news on Ollie?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 12 2009 07:19 AM
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Fernando Nieve's career HR/9 numbers: 1.69
Yankee Stadium's HR/9 numbers: a metric shit-ton
No news yet on "Yank/Phil/Brave Killer" Ollie, apart from the fact that he cannot yet throw from mounded dirt.
I'm a sad panda.
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Nymr83 Jun 12 2009 07:43 AM
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="metirish":367jekyr]="John Cougar Lunchbucket":367jekyr]By the Mets' recent standards this move was lightning quick.
Perhaps now the mediots won't walk around pretending its a good thing that Oliver Perez is out.[/quote:367jekyr]
Good point , any news on Ollie?[/quote:367jekyr]
Some news on "ollie": 1. he isn't very good. 2. he's way overpaid. 3. don't you wish the Mets had ponied up for Lowe? i'd call it 20/20 hindsight but who was actually happy to have Mr. Walk back on the staff?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 12 2009 07:50 AM
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="Nymr83":2nbhpnzk]
Some news on "ollie":
1. he isn't very good.
2. he's way overpaid.
3. don't you wish the Mets had ponied up for Lowe? i'd call it 20/20 hindsight but who was actually happy to have Mr. Walk back on the staff?[/quote:2nbhpnzk]
1. No, he's not. 2. Yes, he is. 3. Kinda.
But yeah, he's ours, and at this sad-panda moment he'd be another option alongside Messrs. Figs, Niese, and Nieve.
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metirish Jun 12 2009 07:51 AM
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I still have faith in Oliver Perez , yes I do.
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Nymr83 Jun 12 2009 07:54 AM
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hey, you rarely want your guys to get hurt (the exception would be where the injury forces an idiot manager to replace the injured player with a better player who should have started in the first place), but perez has been a disaster and theres no reason to believe he'd be helping right now. Lets ask Boston if they'd take a C prospect for Penny if we agree to pay the whole salary, remind them that he'd face the Yankees and maybe help them out.
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Edgy DC Jun 12 2009 08:30 AM
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There's every reason to believe a healthy Oliver Perez would be an asset right now, and no, there's no reason to wish injury.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 12 2009 08:32 AM
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="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1zbscc1y]="Nymr83":1zbscc1y]
Some news on "ollie":
1. he isn't very good.
2. he's way overpaid.
3. don't you wish the Mets had ponied up for Lowe? i'd call it 20/20 hindsight but who was actually happy to have Mr. Walk back on the staff?[/quote:1zbscc1y]
1. No, he's not.
2. Yes, he is.
3. Kinda.[/quote:1zbscc1y]
1. Real insightful. He's a league average ERA guy with strikeout stuff (and for what it's worth a terrific record vs. the Yankees), still relatively young. Are we pretending that's not useful? 2. How is this even relevant but to fuel ignoramuses with agendas? 3. Just as irrelevant.
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Edgy DC Jun 12 2009 08:33 AM
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I thik it's ignorami.
(Gotta keep the pedant flag flying.)
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Edgy DC Jun 12 2009 08:40 AM
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And I stand by my position on Lowe. Right now, he's dirty water under a rusty bridge. Feh.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 12 2009 08:49 AM
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Is it agendi too?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 12 2009 09:05 AM
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="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]="Nymr83"]
Some news on "ollie":
1. he isn't very good.
2. he's way overpaid.
3. don't you wish the Mets had ponied up for Lowe? i'd call it 20/20 hindsight but who was actually happy to have Mr. Walk back on the staff? |
1. No, he's not.
2. Yes, he is.
3. Kinda. |
1. Real insightful. He's a league average ERA guy with strikeout stuff (and for what it's worth a terrific record vs. the Yankees), still relatively young. Are we pretending that's not useful?
2. How is this even relevant but to fuel ignoramuses with agendas?
3. Just as irrelevant. |
Behind the 1. A little more 'conceding-the-point' than true-belief here... but yeah, I'm kind of there, now. FIP and BABIP stuffs during the more-good-Ollie-than-bad-Ollie years have kinda been pointing the way toward an Ollie relapse for a while now.
Behind the 2. It's not relevant at all in-season, unless we're talking trade. (Another more-concession-than-agreement, truth-be-told.)
Behind the 3. Very, very true. But if we'd drafted Reggie... WHOLE new ballgame.
And, actually, agenda is plural (agendum).
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Fman99 Jun 12 2009 09:08 AM
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="Nymr83":35sdfmcj]hey, you rarely want your guys to get hurt (the exception would be where the injury forces an idiot manager to replace the injured player with a better player who should have started in the first place), but perez has been a disaster and theres no reason to believe he'd be helping right now. Lets ask Boston if they'd take a C prospect for Penny if we agree to pay the whole salary, remind them that he'd face the Yankees and maybe help them out.[/quote:35sdfmcj]
Penny griping today that he doesn't want to be sent to the pen, which is looking more likely as Smoltzie gets ready to return to major league baseball.
No chance the Sox deal him though -- he's too steady as an insurance policy in the event that someone gets hurt (Dice-K again, or Smoltz showing his age, etc.).
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Edgy DC Jun 12 2009 09:14 AM
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="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Is it agendi too? |
Agenda actually is a plural latin word (s. <i>agendum</i>), but we use it as a singular, so agendas is fine. Agendae works, but isn't particularly any more correct.
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Nymr83 Jun 12 2009 09:19 AM
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]No chance the Sox deal him though -- he's too steady as an insurance policy in the event that someone gets hurt |
Beckett Matsuzaka Lester Wakefield Smoltz Bucholtz Masterson
they don't need Penny. Bucholtz is tearing up AAA and has already pitched in the majors last year, i'm sure they be happy if someone wants Penny's salary because they'd STILL have the deepest starting pitching in the majors.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 12 2009 09:35 AM
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="Nymr83"]]No chance the Sox deal him though -- he's too steady as an insurance policy in the event that someone gets hurt |
Beckett
Matsuzaka
Lester
Wakefield
Smoltz
Bucholtz
Masterson
they don't need Penny. Bucholtz is tearing up AAA and has already pitched in the majors last year, i'm sure they be happy if someone wants Penny's salary because they'd STILL have the deepest starting pitching in the majors. |
Well, yeah. But they'd still rather have an unhappy camper in the pen-- provided he's not throwing things and revealing secret handshakes to the media-- than give away a trade asset. There's practically no chance-- given their recent trade history-- that the Beanies make a strict dump trade.
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metirish Jun 12 2009 09:43 AM
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" you can never have enough pitching"
From page 1 of the imaginary book on baseball , revised edition , last updated by some GM somewhere..
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