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IGT 7/3/09 - Mets at Philadelphia

Gwreck Jul 03 2009 02:19 PM

Mets Cora SS Murphy 1B Wright 3B Sheffield RF Church CF Tatis 2B Evans LF Schneider C Hernandez P

Frayed Knot Jul 03 2009 02:28 PM

The pitcher we're facing - [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lopezro02.shtml]Rodrigo Lopez[/url] - is call-up making not only his Phils debut but also his first ML appearance since 2007 w/the Rox. He's replacing Anthony Bastardo who's on the shelf w/an injury after he was called up to replace the injured (and stupid) Brett Myers). Lopez spent 2008 pitching only a handful of innings (injured I guess) in the lower levels of the Braves system, and 2009 to date at AAA for the Phils with decent results. He seems to keep the ball in the park and not walk too many (4 HR & 13 BBs in 13 starts/71 IP) which helps him get away with a hits>IP trend (83/71) and still keep the ERA low-ish at 3.91

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 03 2009 02:31 PM

He's the guy who used to wear No. 13 with the Os.

Ceetar Jul 03 2009 02:36 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: The pitcher we're facing - [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lopezro02.shtml]Rodrigo Lopez[/url] - is call-up making not only his Phils debut but also his first ML appearance since 2007 w/the Rox. He's replacing Anthony Bastardo who's on the shelf w/an injury after he was called up to replace the injured (and stupid) Brett Myers). Lopez spent 2008 pitching only a handful of innings (injured I guess) in the lower levels of the Braves system, and 2009 to date at AAA for the Phils with decent results. He seems to keep the ball in the park and not walk too many (4 HR & 13 BBs in 13 starts/71 IP) which helps him get away with a hits>IP trend (83/71) and still keep the ERA low-ish at 3.91 He pitched 5IP with the Braves last year. They picked him up last year, but he had Tommy John at the end of 2007. The Phillies signed him in March, where as you note, he's pitched okay. Pitcher's back from Tommy John seem to pitch differently, so I'm not sure how his career factors in, but he's generally given up about a home run a game (and this is CBP, so inflate that) and has never been better than average. I like this lineup, excepting Tatis for Castillo (think Tatis yesterday was the exception unfortunately, and Castillo gets on base. Not to mention defense) Things swing on Livan. The Phillies haven't been hitting, so let's avoid waking the bats up and we should be able to sweep them. I think only Ruiz, Utley, and Victorino are hitting about .260 Let's try to keep the walks down, keep the home runs to solos, and win this. Pittsburgh's starter yesterday, Maholm, has a better ERA than either of the Phillies starters this weekend (better than Hamels too, who again finds a way around pitching to the Mets) They've hit Moyer, and Blanton is hittable as well.

G-Fafif Jul 03 2009 04:14 PM

Phillies Rollins SS Victorino CF Utley 2B Howard 1B Werth RF Dobbs LF Feliz 3B Bako C Lopez P

metirish Jul 03 2009 05:06 PM

I'm feeling this game big time.....let's Go Mets

Swan Swan H Jul 03 2009 05:28 PM

metirish Jul 03 2009 05:28 PM

Not feeling the game at the minute though...

Swan Swan H Jul 03 2009 05:30 PM

Big K of Bako. If he gets Lopez it's not too horrible.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 03 2009 05:33 PM

And there you are. I'm not sure if it bears out in fact, but my monkey brain is telling me that Livan's one of the few Met starters who's managed not to hand over the store to opposing pitchers.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 03 2009 05:46 PM

And the sac fly makes it 4. I have a feeling we'll get some back soon. But Jebus Christ, he's getting hit hard-- how the hell Victorino's was the only hit, I don't know.

Gwreck Jul 03 2009 05:47 PM

I was momentarily upset that Church didn't catch that ball, before I remember that I was just used to Beltran catching *everything.* Come back soon, Carlos.

Gwreck Jul 03 2009 05:48 PM

Leadoff walk to Schneider. Livan needs to be hitting here. No bunts.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 03 2009 05:57 PM

Well, we better start hitting.

Gwreck Jul 03 2009 05:59 PM

Don't you fucking laugh, Nick Evans. There's nothing funny about you failing to give way to the centerfielder when you're supposed to. There's nothing funny about being down 5 runs. There was especially nothing funny about your misplay of Dobbs' flyball in the first inning.

metirish Jul 03 2009 06:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 03 2009 06:03 PM

I am trying to think of a worse defensive team that has taken the field for the Mets in recent years.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 03 2009 06:03 PM

Fuck this shit.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 03 2009 06:03 PM

Could a guy be hit any harder than Livan right now? JHC

Swan Swan H Jul 03 2009 06:06 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Could a guy be hit any harder than Livan right now? JHC Well, he's handled Lopez without too much trouble.

Edgy DC Jul 03 2009 06:20 PM

I'm tuning in now. Things wil improve. (I mean, that's a safe bet, right?)

seawolf17 Jul 03 2009 06:20 PM

Did Chase Utley just steal second base in the fourth inning with a 7-0 lead? Livan, throw a pickoff off his fucking helmet.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 03 2009 06:22 PM

Attaboy, Livan.

seawolf17 Jul 03 2009 06:22 PM

Hey, even if they lose this game -- and there's still a lot of baseball, even with Chase Fucking Utley stealing bases with a seven-run fucking lead -- if they win the next two, they leave Philly tied. That's not so bad.

Swan Swan H Jul 03 2009 06:24 PM

I blame the hats. They're playing like a red hat ladies luncheon.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 03 2009 06:25 PM

I like this Misch fella.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 03 2009 06:26 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: I blame the hats. They're playing like a red hat ladies luncheon. You may also blame Gwreck for messing with my 2-game IGT Thread Mojo Streak and Rogers for bailing on his KTE.

Edgy DC Jul 03 2009 06:27 PM

That red-hat thing --- who needs to get fired for that?

seawolf17 Jul 03 2009 06:28 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: I blame the hats. They're playing like a red hat ladies luncheon. They look like the Phillies. I. DON'T. LIKE. IT. [ashie]Pat Misch, by the way, your 2009 NL Cy Young Award winner.[/ashie]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 03 2009 06:28 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Could a guy be hit any harder than Livan right now? JHC Well, he's handled Lopez without too much trouble. (Hat tip)

metirish Jul 03 2009 06:29 PM

Edgy DC wrote: That red-hat thing --- who needs to get fired for that? Selig

Edgy DC Jul 03 2009 06:29 PM

Edgy DC wrote: I'm tuning in now. Things wil improve. (I mean, that's a safe bet, right?) See? How 'bout that?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 03 2009 06:33 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 03 2009 06:34 PM

seawolf17 wrote: Did Chase Utley just steal second base in the fourth inning with a 7-0 lead? Livan, throw a pickoff off his fucking helmet. Chase Utley could have sex with about 5 Met wives in succession on top of the opposing dugout right now (with the Phanatic dancing around the cluster and hamming it up for the Jumbotron all the while) and not get pitched inside so much as once. Sometimes, in weaker moments, I want 1-2 big, dumb assholes who are just asshole-y enough-- just shy of, say, Zambrano-level-- to put one in a guy's ear when he "needs" it. Like a team full of Ken dolls, we have no assholes.

Swan Swan H Jul 03 2009 06:34 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Chase Utley could have sex with about 5 Met wives on top of the opposing dugout right now, and not get pitched inside so much as once. And it would still be buried behind 'MANNY RETURNS' on ESPN.

seawolf17 Jul 03 2009 06:35 PM

Wally Backman, at second base, would have fucking decked Utley as soon as he slid in safely. Just reached back and decked him. Ah, the good old days.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 03 2009 06:36 PM

metirish wrote: ="Edgy DC"]That red-hat thing --- who needs to get fired for that? Selig I actually read somewhere that Fred Wilpon of all people was behind this effort.

metirish Jul 03 2009 06:36 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: ="seawolf17"]Did Chase Utley just steal second base in the fourth inning with a 7-0 lead? Livan, throw a pickoff off his fucking helmet. Chase Utley could have sex with about 5 Met wives on top of the opposing dugout right now (with the Phanatic dancing around the cluster and hamming it up for the Jumbotron) and not get pitched inside so much as once. Sometimes, in weaker moments, I want 1-2 big, dumb assholes who are just asshole-y enough-- just shy of, say, Zambrano-level-- to put one in a guy's ear when he "needs" it. Like a team full of Ken dolls, we have no assholes. I have been watching the Mets for 13 years or so and I don't think we have had such a pitcher in that time.

seawolf17 Jul 03 2009 06:36 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ="metirish"] ="Edgy DC"]That red-hat thing --- who needs to get fired for that? Selig I actually read somewhere that Fred Wilpon of all people was behind this effort. Okay, we'll fire Fred, then.

Edgy DC Jul 03 2009 06:37 PM

OK, let's ease up on kidding ourselves.

seawolf17 Jul 03 2009 06:38 PM

Hey, if Keith Hernandez is allowed to stop paying attention and be goofy during blowouts, so are we.

Edgy DC Jul 03 2009 06:40 PM

See how wearing 48 helps and hinders not?

Swan Swan H Jul 03 2009 06:41 PM

metirish wrote: ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"] ="seawolf17"]Did Chase Utley just steal second base in the fourth inning with a 7-0 lead? Livan, throw a pickoff off his fucking helmet. Chase Utley could have sex with about 5 Met wives on top of the opposing dugout right now (with the Phanatic dancing around the cluster and hamming it up for the Jumbotron) and not get pitched inside so much as once. Sometimes, in weaker moments, I want 1-2 big, dumb assholes who are just asshole-y enough-- just shy of, say, Zambrano-level-- to put one in a guy's ear when he "needs" it. Like a team full of Ken dolls, we have no assholes. I have been watching the Mets for 13 years or so and I don't think we have had such a pitcher in that time. Pedro got to NY with just such a reputation, and once he put on the, well, whatever combination they were wearing, he turned into jolly old cousin Pedro.

Edgy DC Jul 03 2009 06:41 PM

I watched a lot of Wally Backman's Met career and I never saw him slug a guy at second.

Swan Swan H Jul 03 2009 06:43 PM

Edgy DC wrote: I watched a lot of Wally Backman's Met career and I never saw him slug a guy at second. There was Strawberry, but I think they set up the photo shoot in short center field.

seawolf17 Jul 03 2009 06:43 PM

Edgy DC wrote: I watched a lot of Wally Backman's Met career and I never saw him slug a guy at second. Okay, technicality. Ray Knight would have come over from third and slugged him.

Edgy DC Jul 03 2009 06:52 PM

Is it me or was that an embarassing conversation last inning?

Swan Swan H Jul 03 2009 06:54 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Is it me or was that an embarassing conversation last inning? Yes, it was brutal. Keith contradicted himself, then contradicted his own contradiction, and Darling sounded like Bob Feller grousing about these kids today.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 03 2009 06:57 PM

metirish wrote: ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"] ="seawolf17"]Did Chase Utley just steal second base in the fourth inning with a 7-0 lead? Livan, throw a pickoff off his fucking helmet. Chase Utley could have sex with about 5 Met wives on top of the opposing dugout right now (with the Phanatic dancing around the cluster and hamming it up for the Jumbotron) and not get pitched inside so much as once. Sometimes, in weaker moments, I want 1-2 big, dumb assholes who are just asshole-y enough-- just shy of, say, Zambrano-level-- to put one in a guy's ear when he "needs" it. Like a team full of Ken dolls, we have no assholes. I have been watching the Mets for 13 years or so and I don't think we have had such a pitcher in that time. Franco, for all his faults, had more than a bit of that. Before him, young Randall K, mebbe? Among non-pitchers, Knight and Mitchell. Bonilla, if you were small and bully-able and not in uniform. Oh, yeah. I'm not saying we've had too many. And Lord knows, if we ever got a bullpen full of Farnsworths, I'm pretty sure I'd get the too-much-candy feeling pretty quickly. Like I said, weaker moments.

Edgy DC Jul 03 2009 06:58 PM

Gary blaming bad play on a lack of pharmaceuticals wasn't much more impressive. Keith came off the best. But they were all talking through their hats. Churchie starts the comeback.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 03 2009 06:58 PM

Swan Swan H wrote: ="Edgy DC"]Is it me or was that an embarassing conversation last inning? Yes, it was brutal. Keith contradicted himself, then contradicted his own contradiction, and Darling sounded like Bob Feller grousing about these kids today. Also, recursive claptrap about how Red Bull is the Devil's Carbonated Beverage. I'll call it an off-night.

Edgy DC Jul 03 2009 07:07 PM

Let's pound today On Chan Ho Park Tomorrow is the Fourth of July Make them pay For Chan Ho Park Tomorrow is the Fourth of July

Edgy DC Jul 03 2009 07:12 PM

That worked poorly.

seawolf17 Jul 03 2009 07:23 PM

Hey, you want somebody to make an out in a big spot, you call David Wright.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 03 2009 07:27 PM

Studly as he is, Wright just murders us some nights. I mean, we really could have used another strikeout there.

seawolf17 Jul 03 2009 07:35 PM

ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING KIDDING ME!?! YOU JUST STAND THERE AND WATCH THE BALL DRIBBLE AWAY?!?! TV off. I give up. Unfuckingreal.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 03 2009 07:45 PM

On the plus side we won 2-0 after Livan left.

themetfairy Jul 03 2009 07:46 PM

The fucking thing is over. Time to move on.

Farmer Ted Jul 03 2009 08:02 PM

Sal Palantonio from espn football sitting behind home openly rooting for the Phils. Another reason to hate that monotone prick.

Fman99 Jul 03 2009 08:17 PM

Bleh.

Rockin' Doc Jul 03 2009 09:21 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: ="metirish"] LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: ="seawolf17"]Did Chase Utley just steal second base in the fourth inning with a 7-0 lead? Livan, throw a pickoff off his fucking helmet. Chase Utley could have sex with about 5 Met wives on top of the opposing dugout right now (with the Phanatic dancing around the cluster and hamming it up for the Jumbotron) and not get pitched inside so much as once. Sometimes, in weaker moments, I want 1-2 big, dumb assholes who are just asshole-y enough-- just shy of, say, Zambrano-level-- to put one in a guy's ear when he "needs" it. Like a team full of Ken dolls, we have no assholes. I have been watching the Mets for 13 years or so and I don't think we have had such a pitcher in that time. Franco, for all his faults, had more than a bit of that. Before him, young Randall K, mebbe? Among non-pitchers, Knight and Mitchell. Bonilla, if you were small and bully-able and not in uniform. Oh, yeah. I'm not saying we've had too many. And Lord knows, if we ever got a bullpen full of Farnsworths, I'm pretty sure I'd get the too-much-candy feeling pretty quickly. Like I said, weaker moments. For some reason, Kevin Appier always struck me as a hard ass that would stick a fastball in your earhole. Of course, he only lasted one season with the Mets. Tonights performance was weak. However, when a team is lacking their #1, #3, and #4 hitters and is forced to submit a lineup of subs anad scrubs each night, it is hard to realistically expect too much.

G-Fafif Jul 03 2009 09:25 PM

Those red hats are a disgrace. Half the teams in baseball wore them today and lost.

Rockin' Doc Jul 03 2009 09:38 PM

I agree that the red hats were disgraceful. Granted, it wasn't their decision, but the Mets deserved to lose just for wearing them.

Gwreck Jul 04 2009 12:40 AM

The last Met I can remember actually throwing a purpose pitch was Duaner Sanchez hitting Miguel Cabrera semi-intentionally way back in '06.

Nymr83 Jul 04 2009 02:02 AM

G-Fafif wrote: Those red hats are a disgrace. Half the teams in baseball wore them today and lost. red hats? 7-2? glad i went to brooklyn. someone shut the firecrackers off please they woke my dog and hence me

Swan Swan H Jul 04 2009 06:57 AM

G-Fafif wrote: Those red hats are a disgrace. Half the teams in baseball wore them today and lost. I am not mollified by the fact that the other half won.

Frayed Knot Jul 04 2009 09:55 AM

Hey, even the Yanx wore the red yesterday - and they're usually the ones to say; "F.U. MLB, we're sticking with our tradition and we don't care what the cause is".

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 01:11 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: Hey, even the Yanx wore the red yesterday - and they're usually the ones to say; "F.U. MLB, we're sticking with our tradition and we don't care what the cause is". The two points of the hat business are the PR boost of a public display of "patriotism" and money going to veterans' groups from selling the stuff, no? So why make the teams advertise hats that look like crap with their respective uniform sets and probably won't sell too well to the fanbases (especially when in colors that reflect those of your favorite team's rival)? Why not produce three standard versions of the hats, in red, white and blue, and allow teams to select which color they'd like to advertise/sell?

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 01:24 PM

Or just slap a flag design on the back. Or have every team choose a design that they feel suits them.