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IGT--Mets @ Phillies, 07/04/09

bmfc1 Jul 04 2009 11:05 AM

METS: Luis Castillo 2B Alex Cora SS David Wright 3B Gary Sheffield RF Fernando Tatis 1B Ryan Church CF Nick Evans LF Omir Santos C Fernando Nieve RHP (3-1, 2.25) Phillies: Jimmy Rollins SS Shane Victorino CF Chase Utley 2B Ryan Howard 1B Jayson Werth RF Greg Dobbs LF Pedro Feliz 3B Paul Bako C Jamie Moyer LHP (6-6, 6.05) Ollie starts Wednesday, Redding to the BP.

bmfc1 Jul 04 2009 01:33 PM

Get ready to be annoyed: FOX will cut away from the Mets game to show the whole country Manny's first AB of the day. Even though he played yesterday. And it's not like he's returning from an injury.

metirish Jul 04 2009 02:01 PM

The opening tease from FOX on the pre-game show is " we'll cover the Manny return from every possible angle , and we have other great games too ".....great " no matter what game you are watching everybody in the country will get to see Manny at bat".....

metirish Jul 04 2009 02:14 PM

This is disgusting , it's like Manny is being celebrated for a great achievement.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 02:14 PM

metirish wrote: The opening tease from FOX on the pre-game show is " we'll cover the Manny return from every possible angle , and we have other great games too ".....great " no matter what game you are watching everybody in the country will get to see Manny at bat"..... Faaaaaantastic. Just cut away completely. Fuck the Mets-Phils, A GAME IN MY HOME MARKET WHICH I CAN'T WATCH IN ANY OTHER TELEVISED MEDIUM. Is there any way we can fly Joe Buck in to tell us how disgusted he is, to make things complete?

bmfc1 Jul 04 2009 02:17 PM

"Is there any way we can fly Joe Buck in, to complete the joy?" Buck has the week off, from his one-day a week job. I'm not arguing because I like Kenny Albert, but why can't Buck be there every week? He's either prepping for FOX pre-season football or hanging out with Artie Lange.

metirish Jul 04 2009 02:21 PM

McCarver to his credit is questioning the Manny reaction.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 02:23 PM

Speaking of the announcers, in discussing Mets injuries and the returning Ollie Perez, Kenny and Tim brought the conversation back to Manny. In the truck, a Fox producer's finger twitches over the cutaway, as he wonders when to give America the what-Manny-thinks-about-Kenny-and-Tim's-thoughts-about-him live shot it wants and needs.

bmfc1 Jul 04 2009 02:24 PM

metirish wrote: McCarver to his credit is questioning the Manny reaction. Nice job there by Tim. I'm sure Rupert Murdoch isn't happy with him.

Nymr83 Jul 04 2009 02:24 PM

the ugly red hats are back. why the fuck can't they all just wear one of these instead:

bmfc1 Jul 04 2009 02:28 PM

Why the frig is Victorino sliding? Show-off.

dgwphotography Jul 04 2009 02:30 PM

Got out of the first giving up only 1 run. After bases loaded and 1 out, I'll take it.

bmfc1 Jul 04 2009 02:35 PM

Wow. Steve McNair was killed today: http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=10643962

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 02:37 PM

So, yeah, this team is apparently feeling very giving, since nobody seems to be taking a thing.

duan Jul 04 2009 02:40 PM

seems to me that Nieve's definitely getting squeezed.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 02:46 PM

duan wrote: seems to me that Nieve's definitely getting squeezed. A bit. Although it seemed to be mostly on the right side (catcher left) of the plate, and Moyer's getting squeezed there, too, this inning.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 02:49 PM

Again with the funting.

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 02:56 PM

OK, just so you know, it wasn't my idea to walk Rollins.

duan Jul 04 2009 02:58 PM

it's definitely happening to Nieve more, that walk was caused by a couple of pitches that were definitely on the borderline.

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 02:59 PM

Was Nieve squeezed covering first also?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 03:01 PM

Sitting Indian-style on the base as you catch an arriving ball before the runner gets there may not be the most stylish way to get a DP, but it kinda oughta count, no?

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 03:04 PM

duan Jul 04 2009 03:06 PM

seriously though, looking at the pitch yoke on mlb gameday he hasn't gotten a single call on the edges of the plate.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 03:06 PM

DOS MANOS, NICKY, POR FAVOR.

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 03:07 PM

Oh, crumbs.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 03:12 PM

So... we don't get to see, like 3-5 pitches of last inning due to tributes to tributes to Gehrig, but Fox cuts away from commercial for Manny's second fucking at-bat.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 03:19 PM

Did the Phils have to pre-order the "only down-the-middle strikes count as strikes" option for today's game? Can we get some of that, too, or is the kitchen all out?

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 03:30 PM

Letting Nieve hit with two on?

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 03:31 PM

Well shut my mouth! An RBI single!

duan Jul 04 2009 03:32 PM

i'd have thought of ph'ing for nieve here.

duan Jul 04 2009 03:32 PM

woo hoo.

duan Jul 04 2009 03:35 PM

unlucky that.

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 03:39 PM

I tell you, what makes this stretch extra painful is that Howie and Gary both seem to have given up on this team with extra disgust.

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 03:57 PM

I misse Wright's screwup. Any descrriptions or accounts? Bullpen time.

duan Jul 04 2009 03:59 PM

tough on Nieve not to get through that inning with Wright making that mistake.

duan Jul 04 2009 04:00 PM

foul ball, that he got under but seemed to pull out of. Speculation in the booth is that a fan yelled "I GOT IT" and he got spooked thinking it was Cora.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 04:00 PM

Edgy DC wrote: I misse Wright's screwup. Any descrriptions or accounts? Bullpen time. Someone in Philly apparently does a kick-ass Alex Cora impression. McCarver guessed that he heard someone in the crowd call him off, as if he were Cora. Wright's reaction on the replay closeup doesn't disagree with McCarver's thought.

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 04:02 PM

Who called Santos off?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 04:02 PM

DOS FUCKING MANOS.

duan Jul 04 2009 04:05 PM

oh good jesus.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 04:06 PM

The third-base coach-- who waved Bako, then held him-- gave us a gift, there. Ingraciously, we refused to accept. EDIT: Seems I'm doing the "we" thing regularly now. Great time to overidentify with a team.

Ashie62 Jul 04 2009 04:14 PM

Nice job by Misch trying to make the stick save backing up

Ashie62 Jul 04 2009 04:17 PM

Fire Jerry, enough little league crap, not to belittle little leaguers

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 04 2009 04:23 PM

We are just so fucking awful.

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 04:29 PM

Team has Torre-era character.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2009 04:34 PM

3 runs. Touchable pen. Come on.

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 04:41 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: 3 runs. Touchable pen. Come on. Works for me.

Ashie62 Jul 04 2009 04:43 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Team has Torre-era character. Yeah..at least I didn't expect much then and could sit anywhere at Shea

metsguyinmichigan Jul 04 2009 04:47 PM

I can understand that the injuries are going to hurt performance. But the stuff like the dropped pop-ups is just horrible. Which coach deals with the defense? Why does he still have a job?

Ashie62 Jul 04 2009 04:47 PM

Happy 4th of July to all of us and those that are no longer with us..God Bless

Ashie62 Jul 04 2009 04:54 PM

Ah..the meat of the order..

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 04 2009 05:02 PM

No fair. We really deserved to lose by more.

metirish Jul 04 2009 05:03 PM

Too easy , on the plus side I was working the grill for the bulk of this game.

Ashie62 Jul 04 2009 05:07 PM

metirish wrote: Too easy , on the plus side I was working the grill for the bulk of this game. Super..I feel like those who watched on the 4th are members of the friends of the friendless club I fear Sandy Alomar might be the first whacked

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 04 2009 05:12 PM

I was making paella and vacuuming.

mario25 Jul 04 2009 05:12 PM

It is an organizitional nightmare starting right at the top with the Wilpons. Building a new stadium with not a hint of Metdom in it, screwing up all the medical issues with hurt players and thinking this team should be on the field in its current state is a sham to the fans. This is NY and you shouldnt put an awful product on the field. MAKE A TRADE for God's sake.

metirish Jul 04 2009 05:30 PM

Jeez from reading the IGT and the report from Newsday I am glad to have missed this..... Comedy of errors in Met loss in Philly ] BY ANTHONY RIEBER | anthony.rieber@newsday.com 7:01 PM EDT, July 4, 2009 PHILADELPHIA - Before the top of the sixth inning at Citizens Bank Park on Saturday, a tuxedoed Phillie Phanatic performed the tired routine in which he uses a mallet to smash a Mets batting helmet. The attempt at comedy was no match for what the Mets did in the bottom of the inning: A missed pop-up in which Alex Cora called off David Wright and then let the ball fall foul. A dropped foul pop-up by Omir Santos. A wild throw to the backstop by Ryan Church and failed hockey goalie kick-save attempt by pitcher Pat Misch, who was backing up the play. The crowd was in stitches. Jerry Manuel was not. Once again, the Mets lost and looked bad doing it in a 4-1 defeat to the Phillies. It wasn't just giving the Phillies five outs and letting them score an unearned insurance run that made the Mets look feeble. They also managed just five hits against 46-year-old lefty Jamie Moyer and only scored against him on an RBI single by pitcher Fernando Nieve in the fifth. The Mets' 3-4-5 batters – David Wright, Gary Sheffield and Fernando Tatis – came in a combined .433 with eight home runs against Moyer, who entered the game with a 6.05 ERA. They were 0-for-9 against him on Saturday. Cora, often cited by general manager Omar Minaya and manager Jerry Manuel as a "leadership" player, was also doubled off first base on a line drive to second in the fourth. But at least he knew he messed up both times. And he did have three of the Mets' hits. The Mets (39-41), who have lost seven of their last nine, fell three games behind the Phillies in the NL East. They were spared the indignity of falling into fourth place by the Braves, who lost to Washington. The Mets and Atlanta are tied for third. Nieve (3-2) didn't pitch all that badly. He allowed a run in the first on Jayson Werth's sacrifice fly and two in the fourth on Jimmy Rollins' two-out, two-run double into the rightfield corner as the Phillies took a 3-0 lead. And then there was the run in the sixth after the Mets had pulled to within two on Nieve's second career RBI . Paul Bako lifted a one-out pop into foul territory down the third-base line. Wright and Cora got their signals crossed (no error was charged) and Bako got new life. He walked. After a sacrifice bunt by Moyer, Rollins walked, too. Shane Victorino hit a potential inning-ending pop-up behind the plate, but a staggering Santos watched it bounce off his mitt for an error. Victorino then ripped a single to center. Bako put on the brakes after rounding third, but Church's throw home was so far up the third-base line that it skipped past Santos as Bako headed for home again. Misch, backing up the plate, attempted – and failed – to stop the errant ball by kicking at it, adding to the slapstick quality of the inning and giving the Phillies a 4-1 lead. Nieve was charged with four runs (three earned) in 5 2/3 innings. Moyer (7-6) got the first out of the seventh and then departed after 87 pitches in his 600th career start. OK , even taking into account that Rieber is probably a hack this is just not getting any better is it?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 04 2009 05:44 PM

mario25 wrote: It is an organizitional nightmare starting right at the top with the Wilpons. Building a new stadium with not a hint of Metdom in it, screwing up all the medical issues with hurt players and thinking this team should be on the field in its current state is a sham to the fans. This is NY and you shouldnt put an awful product on the field. MAKE A TRADE for God's sake. I don;t really agree with any of that. What I dislike about this team is that they continually fail to execute plays. That's it.

Gwreck Jul 04 2009 07:13 PM

Time to fire the coaching staff. Can't fire the players, and I think the coaching staff actually bears a lot of the blame in the atrocious lack of fundamentals.

Edgy DC Jul 04 2009 08:34 PM

mario25 wrote: It is an organizitional nightmare starting right at the top with the Wilpons. Building a new stadium with not a hint of Metdom in it, screwing up all the medical issues with hurt players and thinking this team should be on the field in its current state is a sham to the fans. This is NY and you shouldnt put an awful product on the field. MAKE A TRADE for God's sake. Easy sailor.

Fman99 Jul 04 2009 09:00 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The third-base coach-- who waved Bako, then held him-- gave us a gift, there. Ingraciously, we refused to accept. EDIT: Seems I'm doing the "we" thing regularly now. Great time to overidentify with a team. I find myself doing the same thing, odd that it would happen more when "we" are sucking wind. "I," on the other hand, missed most of this game because I was outside drinking at a party and playing with my kids. So "I" had a good time, even as "we" were pissing another game down the chute.

PiggiesTomatoes Jul 04 2009 09:48 PM

Damn, I am glad I missed today's game. Just saw the low-lights on the 11 'clock news and was disgusted to see more dropped balls and errant throws leading to opportunities for the fillies. We do suck, don't we.

Frayed Knot Jul 05 2009 07:23 AM

That the Mets have been 'out-defensed' by the Phils this season is painfully obvious to even casual watchers of the head to head games. They're kicking our butts in OF defense, in up the middle 'D' w/Utley & Rollins, and Feliz just sucks up everything that comes near him. And then yesterday even the breaks were going against them as three consecutive shots were banked off Moyer - but two deflected directly to fielders for outs.

MFS62 Jul 05 2009 07:25 AM

I'd like to hope Met fandom is an alienable right. Later