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="TransMonk":3aqwegfa]Sarah Palin: Quitter.[/quote:3aqwegfa]
That's my thought. Regardless of your political leanings, how can you support a person for the highest office in the land if she can't even hack her own state?
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Edgy DC
Jul 03 2009 06:32 PM
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I don't support her for the highest office, but I don't think one has to conclude that resigning is tantamount to an inability (or an admission of inability) to hack.
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seawolf17
Jul 03 2009 06:36 PM
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If she was leaving FOR a higher office, then no, it wouldn't be. Like if she had been appointed to a federal position of some kind, or had been elected to Senate or something. But this doesn't appear to be that.
Maybe she's pregnant again.
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MFS62
Jul 03 2009 06:51 PM
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I bet she'll now "retire" to the speaking circuit and earn millions (to fund her future campaigns).
Later
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Nymr83
Jul 04 2009 12:39 AM
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if she doesnt feel she wants to govern anymore then i respect her for stepping down instead of mooching paychecks from the state and doing a half-ass job because she doesnt want to be there anymore. thats the right thing to do. But unless she has a DAMN good explanation for it it completely wrecks her as a valid candidate for the presidency in my eyes.
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sharpie
Jul 04 2009 06:34 AM
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My guess is she ends up with a Fox News slot. That seems to be her more natural metier than governing.
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Nymr83
Jul 04 2009 11:36 AM
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="sharpie":3cjwwqgz]My guess is she ends up with a Fox News slot. That seems to be her more natural metier than governing.[/quote:3cjwwqgz]
i'm sure she could have that job if she wants it, but i think that only raises more questions if THAT is why shes resigning
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 04 2009 01:16 PM
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| ="Nymr83"]if she doesnt feel she wants to govern anymore then i respect her for stepping down instead of mooching paychecks from the state and doing a half-ass job because she doesnt want to be there anymore. thats the right thing to do. But unless she has a DAMN good explanation for it it completely wrecks her as a valid candidate for the presidency in my eyes. |
This, more or less, was her explanation. ("From the people that brought you the non-apology apology...")
From politico.com:
| ]Even those who were less critical of her choice were taken aback by Palin’s rambling, hard-to-follow news conference by the side of a lake outside her home. The performance had shades of Richard Nixon’s “You won’t have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore” news promise in 1962, as well as Mark Sanford’s bizarre exercise in self-revelation just last month.
Palin mixed analogies to herself as a basketball player who knows “when it’s time to pass the ball” with bitter commentary against “political operatives [who] descended on Alaska—digging for dirt” as part of a “superficial, wasteful political bloodsport.”
“Palin is at her best when she’s being folksy but there is no way to be folksy when you’re resigning as governor,” said veteran GOP strategist Dan Schnur.
She portrayed her resignation as a selfless choice done for the good of Alaskans. She said they will now be free of the expensive and distracting—and she said bogus—ethics inquiries generated by her new prominence. “Some Alaskans, maybe they don’t mind wasting public dollars and state time, but I do,” she said. |
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PiggiesTomatoes
Jul 04 2009 09:54 PM
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Maybe Playboy in her future???? There will be no more or higher elected office. Unless there's a compelling family reason (and she probably would have disclosed such if applicable), resigning is quitting and no one likes a quitter. Stick a fork in her; she's done.
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metirish
Jul 05 2009 06:18 AM
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A note on her facebook page......
http://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin?ref= ... =635462702
a snippet
The response in the main stream media has been most predictable, ironic, and as always, detached from the lives of ordinary Americans who are sick of the “politics of personal destruction”. How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it’s about country. And though it's honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make. But every American understands what it takes to make a decision because it’s right for all, including your family.
I had a fun time scrolling the messages left on her page....
you go girl
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Nymr83
Jul 05 2009 12:29 PM
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| ]There will be no more or higher elected office |
I'd guess that if she wanted Young's house seat (he's in his mid 70's) when he retires she'd win it easily. but i agree she's done as far as national office.
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RealityChuck
Jul 06 2009 08:05 AM
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It'd be hard for her to make a case for being elected president in 2012. By resigning, she shows that she doesn't have any interest in actually governing. If you're going to challenge Obama, you're going to have to say you can govern better than he does, and this leaves her open to attacks that when the going got tough, Palin got going.
Her weirdest statement was the one to the effect that she was quitting because she's no quitter.
It's been pointed out that politicians who quit their post in order to run for president do very badly. People point to Reagan and Carter -- both ex-governors -- but Reagan had completed two terms and Carter was ineligible to run again. Both finished their terms, too.
It's strange that all the newer Republican contenders have shot themselves in the foot one way or another for 2012. That leaves Huckabee and Romney to duke it out, and if Gingrich runs, Romney gets the nod.
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Benjamin Grimm
Jul 06 2009 08:22 AM
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Pawlenty still seems viable. Or did I miss something?
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MFS62
Jul 06 2009 08:28 AM
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Its going to be tough for her to run with that word "quitter" spray painted on her forehead.
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Fman99
Jul 06 2009 09:53 AM
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="Nymr83"]| ]There will be no more or higher elected office |
I'd guess that if she wanted Young's house seat (he's in his mid 70's) when he retires she'd win it easily. but i agree she's done as far as national office. |
Oh Lord, I hope this is true.
I smell a scandal, not yet known publicly, that will break soon, involving her. Maybe involving, uh, "goat play," or a bukkake video with play by play commentary done by Joe Buck.
Call me when her porno comes out.
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Farmer Ted
Jul 06 2009 11:41 AM
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She'll be the RNC Rain Maker for the mid-term elections. She's already selling out venues and raking in cash for candidates. They'll repay her by endorsing her candidcacy for 2012. Back scratchers all.
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Willets Point
Jul 06 2009 06:24 PM
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Our next president. You heard it here first.
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cooby
Jul 06 2009 07:19 PM
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Sending for my passport tomorrow, if you're really really sure of that, Willets
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Nymr83
Jul 06 2009 07:20 PM
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="Willets Point":3ns8idny]Our next president. You heard it here first.[/quote:3ns8idny]
will that be in 2012 or 2016?
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Fman99
Jul 06 2009 08:24 PM
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="Willets Point":31y4q0wi]Our next president. You heard it here first.[/quote:31y4q0wi]
Could there really be that many stupid people in this country?
I have said it many times, and I mean no offense to any CPF'er to which this applies, but it merits repeating.
We should have let the South secede and form its own country, and then us Northern folks would have been spared the conservative Christian creationist Bible Belt idiocy that makes civilized Americans look like penny eating Pete Rose haircutted Ameri-tards.
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Edgy DC
Jul 06 2009 08:30 PM
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No offense, but this thread is getting stupider with every post.
I guess I just extended that, but enough.
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Benjamin Grimm
Jul 07 2009 05:20 AM
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="Willets Point":2andmgpf]Our next president. You heard it here first.[/quote:2andmgpf]
I know what you're doing!
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Willets Point
Jul 07 2009 11:05 AM
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="Benjamin Grimm":3t3u1wez]="Willets Point":3t3u1wez]Our next president. You heard it here first.[/quote:3t3u1wez]
I know what you're doing![/quote:3t3u1wez]
Yes, I'm thinking poorly of the American electorate.
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Benjamin Grimm
Jul 07 2009 11:07 AM
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This smells to me like all the times you've predicted the Yankees raising the 27th World Championship flag.
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Willets Point
Jul 07 2009 11:11 AM
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="Benjamin Grimm":24h99v4a]This smells to me like all the times you've predicted the Yankees raising the 27th World Championship flag.[/quote:24h99v4a]
I'm an equal opportunity paranoiac.
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seawolf17
Jul 07 2009 11:23 AM
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You mean they haven't won since 2000? I thought they won every year.
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MFS62
Jul 07 2009 12:50 PM
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="seawolf17":2b4cj8ge]You mean they haven't won since 2000? I thought they won every year.[/quote:2b4cj8ge]
Sometimes the load is just too heavy for Derek Jeter to carry.
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cooby
Jul 07 2009 09:24 PM
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="Fman99":3nbmnjr8]
We should have let the South secede and form its own country, and then us Northern folks would have been spared the conservative Christian creationist Bible Belt idiocy that makes civilized Americans look like penny eating Pete Rose haircutted Ameri-tards.[/quote:3nbmnjr8]
Where would that leave us northern Christians? Without a country?
Edgy's right.
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Kong76
Jul 08 2009 04:23 AM
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Fman99: We should have let the South secede and form its own country, and then us Northern folks would have been spared the conservative Christian creationist Bible Belt idiocy that makes civilized Americans look like penny eating Pete Rose haircutted Ameri-tards <<<
Jeez.
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metirish
Jul 08 2009 06:54 AM
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Palin does herself a disservice with the kind of media show that she had yesterday in the quaint little fishing town , her dressed in waders and using fishing analogies to answer just about every question, it came across incredibly silly.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 08 2009 08:57 AM
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="metirish":2lfcmzrg]Palin does herself a disservice with the kind of media show that she had yesterday in the quaint little fishing town , her dressed in waders and using fishing analogies to answer just about every question, it came across incredibly silly.[/quote:2lfcmzrg]
I get the distinct feeling we're not her target audience.
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themetfairy
Jul 08 2009 09:14 AM
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="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":2qt7fol7]="metirish":2qt7fol7]Palin does herself a disservice with the kind of media show that she had yesterday in the quaint little fishing town , her dressed in waders and using fishing analogies to answer just about every question, it came across incredibly silly.[/quote:2qt7fol7]
I get the distinct feeling we're not her target audience.[/quote:2qt7fol7]
That's only because we hate America.
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Frayed Knot
Jul 08 2009 09:42 AM
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="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]| ="metirish"]Palin does herself a disservice with the kind of media show that she had yesterday in the quaint little fishing town , her dressed in waders and using fishing analogies to answer just about every question, it came across incredibly silly. |
I get the distinct feeling we're not her target audience. |
The CPF?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 08 2009 02:32 PM
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Meant New Yorkers. (Or, more broadly, folk who aren't charmed by an obviously-stagey, strenuously-manicured presentation of folksiness from a politician.)
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SteveJRogers
Jul 08 2009 02:36 PM
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="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":18k9pqt5]Meant New Yorkers. (Or, more broadly, folk who aren't charmed by an obviously-stagey, strenuously-manicured presentation of folksiness from a politician.)[/quote:18k9pqt5]
AKA, Blue States.
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Frayed Knot
Jul 08 2009 04:54 PM
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Fortunately for us north-eastern, blue-staters we're devoid of shallow politicians.
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PiggiesTomatoes
Jul 09 2009 09:46 AM
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="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":26sf2ds7]Meant New Yorkers. (Or, more broadly, folk who aren't charmed by an obviously-stagey, strenuously-manicured presentation of folksiness from a politician.)[/quote:26sf2ds7]
What's scary is I heard plenty of Tri-Staters on talk radio yesterday pledging their allegiance to Palin (but then again, it was WABC).
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Nymr83
Jul 09 2009 10:00 AM
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thats 770 right? home of Hannity? obviously thats my kind of station but it certainly doesnt represent new yorkers at all
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Willets Point
Jul 09 2009 10:16 AM
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For all the characterization of New York as a liberal nirvana, in my experience the majority of hardcore right-wingers I've met are from New York City. I think its one of those things that's just due to the city's size - more Irish than Ireland, more Jews than Israel, and more ditto-head wingnuts than Wyoming, Alaska, and Kansas put together.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 09 2009 10:51 AM
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="Willets Point":1u1c3n7c]For all the characterization of New York as a liberal nirvana, in my experience the majority of hardcore right-wingers I've met are from New York City. I think its one of those things that's just due to the city's size - more Irish than Ireland, more Jews than Israel, and more ditto-head wingnuts than Wyoming, Alaska, and Kansas put together.[/quote:1u1c3n7c]
New York-- like most ultrabig cities-- is liberal more for pragmatic reasons than by any inclination, methinks. You see a LOT more social-liberal libertarian than old-school liberal 'round these parts.
And I didn't mean that NYers are smarter/savvier than others, in terms of seeing through BS (although I'm not complaining about THAT characterization); I just meant that the rural-trappings-as-signifiers thing doesn't seem to be the brand of political stagecraft to which we're particularly succeptible... and the coasts, hidden conservative streak or no, are not where sorta-populists like Palin are aiming their sights.
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Frayed Knot
Jul 09 2009 12:17 PM
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="Willets Point":1a8305xm]For all the characterization of New York as a liberal nirvana, in my experience the majority of hardcore right-wingers I've met are from New York City. I think its one of those things that's just due to the city's size - more Irish than Ireland, more Jews than Israel, and more ditto-head wingnuts than Wyoming, Alaska, and Kansas put together.[/quote:1a8305xm]
That's essentially what I always tell some non-NYer who complain the there's a helluva lot of __________ in NY.
"Sure are" I tell them, "more good people, more assholes, more true sports fans, more phony bandwagon jumpers ... more of everything"!
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