Master Index of Archived Threads


They Might Be Giants...

Rockin' Doc Sep 11 2005 10:24 PM

Then again, they might not. The NY Giants opened their NFL season with a 42-19 rout of the hapless Arizona Cardinals. It's still too early to tell how good the Giants can be this season, but at least they're off to a good start. They take on the displaced New Orleans Saints next Monday night. The Saints played inspired football today and overcame the Carolina Panthers 23-20 on a last second field goal by John Carney. I truly wish the Saints have a magical season, for all that they and their fans have been through in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

PatchyFogg Sep 14 2005 12:58 AM

We had Daily News Giants beat writer Ralph Vacchiano on the show tonight. Here's the interview: http://hosted.filefront.com/patchyfogg

holychicken Sep 14 2005 09:22 AM

I hope they have a magical season, but I hope they have a magicless day when they play the Giants. Am I a bad person?

Elster88 Sep 14 2005 09:44 AM

First off, you're not a person, you're a chicken. _____________________________ This post had the designation 155) David Segui

holychicken Sep 14 2005 11:47 AM

A Holy Chicken, bub! Which begs the question: Can a Holy Chicken possibly be bad? I, for one, say no.

Rockin' Doc Oct 08 2005 03:49 PM

The Giants are 3-1 and have a bye week. They have an extra week to prepare for Parcell's Cowboys. I don't ask for much, but the Giants just have to beat the Cowboys, whom I detest almost as much as the Yankees. It appears that holy chicken and I are the only Giant fans amidst the legion of Jets fans on the CPF.

soupcan Oct 08 2005 05:49 PM

I pretend to be a Giants fan when my season-ticket holding friend takes me to games. Does that count?

TheOldMole Oct 08 2005 10:46 PM

Giant fan here. But football is not like baseball. You can root for both teams.

ScarletKnight41 Oct 08 2005 10:51 PM

I'm just there for the tailgate parties. Football doesn't do it for me the way that baseball does.

OlerudOwned Oct 09 2005 03:19 PM

Football will always be my favoriteof the 2. And I'm just salivating at the fact that Eli and the staff have an extra week to prepare for Dallas's ugly secondary.

ABG Oct 10 2005 09:05 AM

OlerudOwned wrote: Football will always be my favoriteof the 2. And I'm just salivating at the fact that Eli and the staff have an extra week to prepare for Dallas's ugly secondary. Didnt' look too ugly yesterday. I'm concerned that we've beaten only badly-coached finesse teams. Let's see what happens when we play a strong team with good coaching. Like next Sunday.

Lundy Oct 10 2005 10:57 AM

What Old Mole said. I'm more of a Giants fan than a Jets fan, but I want to see both teams do well. I don't have that much of an emotional investment in either team, though.

Rockin' Doc Oct 10 2005 12:51 PM

I am a Giants fan, but I have no issues with the Jets. I wish them well, unless of course they are playing the Giants or Panthers.

Elster88 Oct 10 2005 01:02 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: I am a Giants fan, but I have no issues with the Jets. I wish them well, unless of course they are playing the Giants or Panthers. Me too, only reverse the names of the teams and take out the Panthers' caveat. BTW, your team looks pretty nasty to me. If their defense was just a little better....wow. And even though it's not my team, Strahan being on the verge of breaking LT's sack sounds like sacrelige (sp?) to me.

Valadius Oct 10 2005 04:04 PM

You're not as alone as you think. I am also a Giants fan. Isn't it weird how Giants and Jets fans get along so well?

Elster88 Oct 10 2005 04:47 PM

Maybe it's because we rent your building.

Rockin' Doc Oct 10 2005 08:23 PM

Maybe it's because neither team is the Yankees.

Iubitul Oct 10 2005 08:30 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: The Giants are 3-1 and have a bye week. They have an extra week to prepare for Parcell's Cowboys. I don't ask for much, but the Giants just have to beat the Cowboys, whom I detest almost as much as the Yankees.. As a long time Cowboys fan, I must say that I am quite offended that the Cowboys were included in the same sentence as the MFYs

Elster88 Oct 10 2005 09:32 PM

The sim scores between Yankee, Cowboy/Steeler, and Laker fans can be quite high.

ScarletKnight41 Oct 10 2005 09:34 PM

Hey - I've known lubitul a long time, and he does not share any characteristics of MFY fans (and he has consistently been a Cowboys fan).

Elster88 Oct 10 2005 09:42 PM

Whoa, whoa. Not implying anything at all about lubitul. The fact that he is a Met fan obviously means he doesn't fall into the category that my post was referring to. But the fact remains that the Cowboys tend to inspire bandwagoners as much as the Yankees.

cooby Oct 10 2005 10:04 PM

Elster88 wrote: The sim scores between Yankee, Cowboy/Steeler, and Laker fans can be quite high. Please, never again confuse me with a Cowboys fan. Or Lakers. Or Yankees. Ciao, I am missing my Steelers game

Rockin' Doc Oct 10 2005 10:14 PM

All successful teams tend to attract bandwagon fans. I don't doubt lubitul's longstanding devotion to the Cowboys. I just grew up with more bandwagon Cowboy fans than I care to remember. Also, I believe the Cowboys embraced the title of "America's Team" long before Ted Turner applied it to the Braves on TBS.

ScarletKnight41 Oct 10 2005 10:14 PM

That's cool. You just have to be careful about generalizing. And while we're at it, I have a 12-year-old Cardinals fan here. For better or worse, that's been his team most of his life, so at least he's not a bandwagoner.

Elster88 Oct 31 2005 12:20 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 02 2005 02:45 PM

I don't have to be careful about anything. Anyway...just wow. I think we all found out which team was for real and which team wasn't. Eli still doesn't impress, but everything else about that team did yesterday. And Eli has been impressive in spurts and is still in his first full year as starter. This team is good. Congrats, Giant fans. Let me be so bold as to point out that there is no dominant team in the NFC. The Falcons are NOT for real. If Vinny doesn't fumble three times the Jets probably win that game. Ditto the Bucs, who took it one step further and actually lost to the Jets and Niners. I'd say the best teams at this point are Carolina and the Giants. I don't know much about the Eagles, but they don't look like anything special. Maybe the Cowboys, too?

PatchyFogg Nov 02 2005 01:27 PM

We had Daily News Giants beat writer Ralph Vacchiano on with us last night. Here's the audio (it's 47+ commercial-free minutes) http://hosted.filefront.com/patchyfogg Thanks.

metirish Nov 06 2005 09:28 PM

Message to Bill Mass...STFU...I want to watch the Giants and I try, but I hate Bill Mass, he never shuts up and it's pure jock speak garbage that he talks, and he's an idiot...a hightlight from today was.. Mass - "this is a scoring drive Sam(Giants)" Rosen - " how do you mean?" Mass - " The Giants will score" Rose - " what makes you say that Bill" Mass - "YYYBBB..."and on he went for about two minutes...the Giants never came close to scoring on that drive....and Sam please stick to doing Rangers games, I like you then although your partner during Ranger games has the same problem as Mass..JD never shuts up either.

seawolf17 Nov 13 2005 04:19 PM

Giants just tied the game at 21 thanks to a short TD run by Tiki, followed by an identical 2-point conversion by Tiki. Barber has over 100 receiving yards today - a career high - and almost 100 rushing years. Vikes driving with :46 on the clock.

ABG Nov 13 2005 04:23 PM

Unbelievable.

KC Nov 13 2005 04:28 PM

I generally root against the Jints, but had the Vikings losing in Diamond Dad's three strike loser pool today. Steeerike One! Manning is totally overated, I'm glad he ain't my QB and Bollinger is lololol.

Iubitul Nov 13 2005 06:58 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: All successful teams tend to attract bandwagon fans. I don't doubt lubitul's longstanding devotion to the Cowboys. I just grew up with more bandwagon Cowboy fans than I care to remember. Also, I believe the Cowboys embraced the title of "America's Team" long before Ted Turner applied it to the Braves on TBS. Actually, that name was applied by Stevel Sabol of NFL films for their 1977 - 78 highlight film. He said that he saw Cowboy fans in every stadium that year, even when the Cowboys weren't playing. Supposedly, Tom Landry cringed when he heard of the nickname... Doc - I'm with you - I hate the bandwagon Cowboy fans. Because of them, I have to deal with the crap that their presence stirs up...

metirish Nov 13 2005 10:50 PM

]Manning is totally overated, I'm glad he ain't my QB and Bollinger is lololol. KC you're taking the piss right?...I'm no expert but one of Manning's biggest problems to me is that he can't see what's going on down the field,more than a few times today he failed to see open guys just waiting for the ball...

Frayed Knot Nov 15 2005 11:30 PM

Bad month to be a NY Giant owner; Co-owner Robert Tisch died today at age 79. Both families have children in place to take the reins so no actual ownership changes are planned.

KC Nov 16 2005 07:31 AM

>>>KC you're taking the piss right?<<< I forgot to ask the other day ... wuh??? I was joking, if that's what you meant - no urination occured during the post.

Edgy DC Nov 16 2005 11:15 AM

Tisch was also US Postmaster General and a great benefactor to New York City colleges and universities as well as atheltic programs at primary and secondary schools. In Feb. 2000, he helped found Take the Field, Inc., a non-profit organization dedicated to renovating and rebuilding the athletic fields at New York City’s public high schools. Tisch, a product of those schools who graduated from Erasmus Hall High in Brooklyn, was Chairman of Take the Field, Inc. He launched the organization with a $1 million donation, and as of earlier this year had raised more than $147 million in public and private dollars. Tisch and two partners in Take the Field, Tony Kiser and Richard Kahan, believed the private sector had to play a leading role in repairing sports fields at schools throughout the city that had been slowly destroyed by more than two decades of neglect. Tisch approached then-mayor Rudy Giuliani with his idea. The city agreed to match every dollar raised by Take the Field with three of its own, and the mission was to re-do every athletic field in the city that was classified as “needy.” “Take the Field is one of the most innovative and wonderful ideas of my life in the city,” said New York Mets owner Fred Wilpon, one of Tisch's best friends. “And it doesn't happen without Bob. At a time in his life when he could have just sat back and enjoyed everything he had accomplished, he went to work.”

Valadius Nov 16 2005 12:02 PM

Bob Tisch was my dad's buddy.

Edgy DC Nov 16 2005 12:09 PM

Good friend to have. Sorry for your family's loss.

Elster88 Nov 21 2005 10:40 AM

If I were a Giant fan, Eli would scare me.

Elster88 Nov 21 2005 10:42 AM

cooby wrote: ="Elster88"]The sim scores between Yankee, Cowboy/Steeler, and Laker fans can be quite high. Please, never again confuse me with a Cowboys fan. Or Lakers. Or Yankees. *sigh* I said "can", and read the post immediately preceding the one that I am quoting.

OlerudOwned Nov 21 2005 05:30 PM

Elster88 wrote: If I were a Giant fan, Eli would scare me. Less scary than Pennington's shoulder at least.

Valadius Nov 21 2005 05:34 PM

I'm proud to be a Giants fan. Why am I a Giants fan? Ask my dad. He might know.

Elster88 Nov 21 2005 07:51 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: ="Elster88"]If I were a Giant fan, Eli would scare me. Less scary than Pennington's shoulder at least. Your point? I guess it's comforting to know that saying anything critical about any team will still make people try to hit back. Even when they weren't hit in the first place. Does anyone want to discuss Eli without comparing him to a poor bastid who gets shoulder surgery on an annual basis? ____________________ This post had the designation 120) Masato Yoshii

metirish Nov 21 2005 10:45 PM

Phil Simms comes out swinging against Steve Young.... ]Former Giants quarterback Phil Simms on Monday sharply criticized former 49ers quarterback Steve Young, a fellow former Super Bowl MVP, in the wake of comments Young made Sunday about Simms' son Chris, the Buccaneers quarterback. On Sunday Young, an ESPN analyst, had this to say about Simms: "His dad was one of the greatest at being tough and handling all the criticisms . . . I worry that he grew up in a much different atmosphere, a laissez-faire kind of atmosphere. And I'm worried that he really doesn't have the mental toughness to deal with the information overload that comes with the NFL.'' On Monday, a Newsday reporter apprised the elder Simms, a CBS analyst, of those comments during a conference call on which Simms spoke about the network's upcoming coverage of Thursday's Broncos-Cowboys game. Here is what Simms had to say: "There is one thing I know my son doesn't lack, and that is toughness. And he didn't grow up in a laissez faire atmosphere, far from it. Come to my house and live around with me and we'll see how laissez faire it is. "I don't know how Steve Young lives his life, but I don't live mine that way. And I didn't raise my kids that way. You can say whatever you want about my son, the one thing that will get me mad and I'll stand in your face about it, is about toughness. Who in the hell can be tougher than him, physically or what he endures?'' Later, Simms added, "Steve, follow football more than one day a week and you might know some of those answers.'' When an ESPN spokesman informed Young of Simms' comments, Young called Newsday to clarify his remarks, saying, "I've known Phil for years. I'd let him raise my own kids.'' Young said his comments did not refer to Chris Simms' family upbringing but rather were intended as a general remark about young quarterbacks today compared to the generation that produced Phil Simms and Young. "Maybe my bias is generational, where guys from the older generations are tougher,'' he said. "I want to see young quarterbacks handle the huge step, the massive step from college to pro, and that means information overload . . . Maybe this experience with Phil will make me think about the words I use better.'' Young's original comments were made before the Bucs' victory over the Falcons Sunday. He said he was impressed with the fact Chris Simms had performed well two weeks in a row. Young said he planned to call Phil Simms to discuss the matter.

KC Nov 27 2005 08:58 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 27 2005 09:38 PM

Tony 'gusa - lard ass big mouth - just makes listening to some games un- listenable - if that's an actual word. People complain about the women sideline coverage of the NFL, why, I don't know ... they mostly just re- port stuff - but Tony's open mic is just plain annoying to my ears. During the overtime tonight: "It's goo', it's goo'" - uh, no, Tony it wasn't - stfu - thank you. "whoever wins this game is gonna be King of the Hill" - after a King of the Hill promo. Someone give this guy a banana and shut him up. "don't lose the Simpsons, don't lose the Simpsons" - after a Simpsons promo. See above. Good game by the Giants - jint fans will be hearing false start in their sleep until at least Wednesday.

Nymr83 Nov 27 2005 09:29 PM

i'm still not convinced that the Giants aren't really a .500 team overacheiving on a weak schedule and opposing team's injuries. they'll have to win a playoff game to convince me.

Frayed Knot Nov 27 2005 10:07 PM

I'm not so sure that the Giants actually lost today because I think the game's still going. There still could be some replay reviews they haven't gone over and some illegal procedure penalties yet to be called. In some ways that was an exciting and tense game ... and in others it was unwatchable (and unlistenable as KC points out). The whole "presentation" of NFL games makes it tough to hold my attention at time. Plus I've always hated the replay rule and I still do.

metirish Nov 27 2005 10:17 PM

KC thank you, Siragusa is useless, at least Bill Mass wasn't doing the game today, he's worse, oh and you can now buy Siragusa ribs at the A&P...just in case you miss him KC..

Johnny Dickshot Nov 28 2005 12:30 AM

How shitty does that kicker feel about now?

Nymr83 Nov 28 2005 08:30 AM

between Coles' touchdown getting called back and a few other games (including the Giants) that i saw yesterday i'm getting tired of instant replay. the refs are intentionally making bad calls just so they can review them (especially in situations where the opposite call is unreviewable) and this is making the situation as bad as when there was no replay.

Elster88 Nov 28 2005 09:20 AM

Nymr83 wrote: the refs are intentionally making bad calls just so they can review them (especially in situations where the opposite call is unreviewable) Wow.

Valadius Nov 28 2005 09:33 AM

False start. False start. False start. FALSE START!!!!!! ARGH!!!! What the hell is wrong with this offensive line!?!?!?!?!?

OlerudOwned Nov 28 2005 09:35 AM

Elster88 wrote: ="OlerudOwned"] Elster88 wrote: If I were a Giant fan, Eli would scare me. Less scary than Pennington's shoulder at least. Your point? I guess it's comforting to know that saying anything critical about any team will still make people try to hit back. Even when they weren't hit in the first place. Does anyone want to discuss Eli without comparing him to a poor bastid who gets shoulder surgery on an annual basis? ____________________ This post had the designation 120) Masato Yoshii You got me wrong there, man. It wasn't as much a shot as much as me being thankful that my "scary" QB has at least been healthy. If I was a Jet fan, I'd be scared every time the man's shoulder rotated.

Elster88 Nov 28 2005 09:43 AM

I am. The Jets need a new QB.

Frayed Knot Nov 28 2005 10:17 AM

]the refs are intentionally making bad calls just so they can review them (especially in situations where the opposite call is unreviewable) and this is making the situation as bad as when there was no replay. Phrased that way your charge is absurd -- but I do believe the existance of replay causes the refs to be overly cautious with calls knowing that the great eye in the sky will be there to correct their mistakes when they screw up. And geez, can these calls get any more picky? That one on Shockey's "fumble" was ridiculous -- 'hey look, the laces are still moving' -- and tplay wasn't even stopped to review that aspect of the play, they just "discovered it" while waiting out one of the interminable breaks in the action. And, just to be clear, I'm not complaining simply due to the outcome of any particular game. I barely care about football and, while I hope the locals do well, I don't live or die with either team. It's just that having a rule that's applied so erratically is worse than having no rule at all.

Nymr83 Nov 28 2005 10:57 AM

there have DEFINETALY been situations where the referees have called a fumble that 99% wasnt a fumble knowing that they could reverse that call on replay if they were wrong but if had called no fumble in the first place they couldnt reverse that.

Elster88 Nov 28 2005 10:58 AM

I'll need names, dates, times, and sworn testimony.

Centerfield Nov 28 2005 02:04 PM

For what it's worth, I've heard that about replay as well...just in case you thought nymr was making this stuff up out of the blue. Specifically, in a situation where one call is unreviewable, I've heard that officials will tend to err on the side of caution and rule the play in a way that will allow it to be reviewed. For instance, (for those that don't know about "unreviewable" plays) if you have a questionable fumble, blowing it dead and saying the player was down will make that play unreviewable. (Even if replays show the ball came out, you can't reverse it because the play wasn't allowed to continue so you don't know who would have ended up with the ball). However, if you let it go and rule it a fumble, you can see who ends up with the ball, then go back to the tape to see if the ball came out early or not. Of course, I don't know how much weight you want to give it...since these are all unnamed officials who were asked what they thought of replay, and how it could be improved (and I suspect officials would try to overstate the evils of replay in order to eliminate it). But it has been reported and or referenced by enough people for you to suspect there might be something to it.

Frayed Knot Nov 28 2005 04:23 PM

Erring on the side of caution and intentionally mis-calling a play are two different things. The bottom line, for me, is that the very existence of the replay rule can affect how the play is called and what that does is lay to waste this notion that it's merely there as a fail-safe to benignly correct calls the human eyes were just unable to make. Plus the uneven and often haphazard application of it makes using it for some plays yet not others something like trying to stay only slightly pregnant. In my dreams, each time I see the application of the replay rule delaying games and starting more arguments than it solves (and only occasionally getting the call right), Bud Selig is watching too and he's taking notes.

Elster88 Nov 28 2005 04:39 PM

I've heard the opinion many times that the final decision is right only "some of the time" after a play goes to review. I would argue that they are right in the overwhelming majority of cases when a play goes to review.

Rockin' Doc Nov 28 2005 08:21 PM

I really don't like the rplay review in football. Players make mistakes, coaches make poor decisions, and officials occasionally miss calls. It's part of the game and replay reviews certainly won't eliminate such things from occurring. If Bud ever decides to initiate a replay review in baseball I think I'll blow a gasket.

Elster88 Nov 29 2005 02:27 PM

This belongs in a football "So You Think You're a Sportswriter" thread. Skip Bayless thinks Feely should be dumped because of the damage to his psyche from last week's game. I thought Doug Brien needed to go after last year's Pittsburgh game, but Skipper, have you seen what's out there? Cundiff resigned with the Cowboys and Jose freaking Cortez got picked up for a brief stint with the Eagles. But this comes after he drops this doozy: field goal kicking should be abolished from football because "It is unfair to the great athletes who battled their guts out for the game to be decided by some little guy who could not make the team at any real position." Wow. The game's called football, right? I'd link to it but I'm embarrassed to have even read it. That's the last time I read an article about football written by a guy named Skip.

Willets Point Nov 29 2005 02:29 PM

="Elster88"] Wow. The game's called football, right? All of Europe and South America are lining up to argue that point. ;)

Elster88 Nov 29 2005 02:33 PM

Well, yeah. But you see what I mean.

HahnSolo Nov 30 2005 09:47 AM

]"It is unfair to the great athletes who battled their guts out for the game to be decided by some little guy who could not make the team at any real position." Yeah, Skip, just ask the Patriots and their fans about that little bum Adam Vinatieri. Bayless is a moron. Trying to be a latter-day, more bitter Dick Young, with not one-tenth of Young's writing ability. Best to avoid Bayless, whether on the tube or on espn.com, and save yourself the aggravation.

OlerudOwned Nov 30 2005 09:51 AM

HahnSolo wrote: ]"It is unfair to the great athletes who battled their guts out for the game to be decided by some little guy who could not make the team at any real position." Yeah, Skip, just ask the Patriots and their fans about that little bum Adam Vinatieri. Bayless is a moron. Trying to be a latter-day, more bitter Dick Young, with not one-tenth of Young's writing ability. Best to avoid Bayless, whether on the tube or on espn.com, and save yourself the aggravation. I should dig up the article on Cold Hard Football Fact's where they just rip one of his columns to shreds. It's classic. Skip is a hack

Willets Point Nov 30 2005 10:37 AM

Still one of the great moments in my Boston experience even if I don't follow the Patriots:

Elster88 Nov 30 2005 10:57 AM

]I should dig up the article on Cold Hard Football Fact's where they just rip one of his columns to shreds. It's classic. Do it! I like reading a good ripping of a column.

OlerudOwned Nov 30 2005 03:42 PM

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=120 There we go.

seawolf17 Dec 05 2005 02:00 PM

Someone on the Giants' clubhouse staff is getting fired. (Photo courtesy of [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/051205]Uni Watch[/url].)

sharpie Dec 05 2005 03:06 PM

What was up with them wearing those red uniforms for anyway? They looked like the Chiefs.

Elster88 Dec 05 2005 03:11 PM

They were hurting my eyes all day. As was Eli. I hope you true-blue fans don't mind if I run alongside the bandwagon for the rest of the year. I've got no problem with the Giants, it's not a Met/Yankee type deal to me, and I'd like to have a rooting interest besides the Reggie Bush sweepstakes over the next few weeks.

soupcan Dec 05 2005 03:57 PM

Was at that Jints game yesterday. C-c-c-c-cold.

TheOldMole Dec 24 2005 01:20 PM

Two bad calls against them on the Skins opening drive...the Skins took care of the rest.

TheOldMole Dec 24 2005 02:12 PM

Shockey's pocket picked...an embarassing Giant moment. No one watching except me?

KC Dec 24 2005 02:21 PM

I have it on, it's just as a non-Giants fan I didn't want to post that Shockey looked kinda stupid on that play. I did feel compelled to do so though lol. He's that kind of player that can drive a fan nuts. He's got so much freakin' talent, but there's that void or two in his thought process that can always rear it's head.

TheOldMole Dec 24 2005 02:29 PM

But -- as they do the booth challenge -- amazing play by Amani Toomer -- did you see how far away he was when that ball was first tipped?

TheOldMole Dec 24 2005 02:31 PM

The call stands, and Toomer passes Frank Gifford for 3rd on the Giants alltime TD reception list.

TheOldMole Dec 24 2005 02:53 PM

How many more ways can the Giants fuck this up? A sack, Skins have to punt from deep in their own territory, and the Giants get hammered with every penalty in the book, Skins keep possession.

TheOldMole Dec 24 2005 03:08 PM

How many more ways can the Giants fuck this up? Blocked FG attempt.

OlerudOwned Dec 24 2005 03:14 PM

The dropped Buress pass on the 1st play of the game is still annoying me

Rockin' Doc Dec 24 2005 05:52 PM

Humbly defeat for the Giants. They just seem to be a different team on the road.

Elster88 Dec 25 2005 06:34 PM

="OlerudOwned"]The dropped Buress pass on the 1st play of the game is still annoying me Plaxico, Shockey, Tiki, and even Toomer have been saving Eli's ass all year.

ABG Dec 26 2005 05:08 PM

Anyone know of a good Giants message board? I've been looking around, haven't found crap...

OlerudOwned Dec 27 2005 02:12 PM

ABG wrote: Anyone know of a good Giants message board? I've been looking around, haven't found crap... Last I saw, it all sorta fell apart. There was the official Giants.com board, which became kind of unbearable (also, I heard that the CE forum was deleted because people decided to piss off the mods by posting pages of racial jokes). People from that board broke off and made a new one, but apparently it's gone now because I can't find it.

ABG Dec 30 2005 11:26 AM

OlerudOwned wrote: ="ABG"]Anyone know of a good Giants message board? I've been looking around, haven't found crap... Last I saw, it all sorta fell apart. There was the official Giants.com board, which became kind of unbearable (also, I heard that the CE forum was deleted because people decided to piss off the mods by posting pages of racial jokes). People from that board broke off and made a new one, but apparently it's gone now because I can't find it. http://mb6.scout.com/bgiantsfans This place isn't bad. In between the taunts and flame wars, you get some good discussion.