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Omar, Jerry safe

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2009 07:56 PM

At least it is if you put any stock in these sort of 'vote of confidence' announcements. AP: Mets general manager Omar Minaya gave manager Jerry Manuel the vote of confidence during the fourth inning of New York's game against the Washington Nationals on Monday night, Minaya said that he recently spoke with Mets chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon, and Wilpon was supportive. "I want you to be our general manager, and I want Jerry to be our manager," Minaya said he was told by Wilpon. Minaya, who's in his fifth season as Mets' GM, said the conversation occurred "a couple of weeks ago." Minaya said he told Wilpon: "Jeff, thank you for that vote. I don't think about those things, and Jerry [doesn't] either." Minaya said he understood there would be talk about firings since the injury-ravaged Mets entered Monday five games under .500 (43-48) and nine games back of Philadelphia in the NL East. "When you lose, people are going to come up with those things," Minaya said..

Ashie62 Jul 20 2009 07:59 PM

I believe that was an "in-season" vote of confidence In other news Mets reject Fmart-Niese-Parnell-Tejada for Halladay..

Frayed Knot Jul 21 2009 07:47 AM

[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2009/07/20/2009-07-20_sources_minayas_job_isnt_so_safe.html?page=0]Or maybe not so safe[/url] sez Adam Rubin: ... sources have indicated to the Daily News that Wilpon's view of Minaya clearly has shifted. A source recently told The News that Minaya's three-year extension, which runs through 2012 and is believed to be annually worth $1.1 million, would not be an impediment to jettisoning the GM after the season.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 21 2009 10:01 AM

"Hey-- everything must be okay with Mikey after the Roth business! He kissed me on the cheek and everything!"

metirish Jul 21 2009 10:03 AM

This just cracks me up , such a typical Omar way of saying things ] "Like I told Jeff, I said, 'Hey, Jeff. Thank you for that hope. I don't think about those things and I know Jerry (doesn't), either.' We do the best job we can, and we understand when teams lose, people are going to come up with those things. People are going to say those things, especially in big markets.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 21 2009 10:08 AM

The Manuel thing makes sense... but is it me, or does it seem a little strange to anybody else that he's announcing his own vote of confidence publicly? Wouldn't that sort of thing come from a Wilpon's mouth, were it an actual assurance of job security?

Edgy DC Jul 21 2009 10:14 AM

It would have been stranger if Manny Acta had announced it. My guess is it wasn't meant as an official announcement, but it came up in conversation with Shecky.

attgig Jul 21 2009 11:23 AM

it always seems like after an owner or gm gives a vote of confidence, someone gets fired.

MFS62 Jul 21 2009 12:51 PM

To me, Omar is the Dave Kingman of GMs. The home runs have been impressive. But I wish there had been more key singles and doubles. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 21 2009 01:06 PM

="MFS62":34nttre8]To me, Omar is the Dave Kingman of GMs. The home runs have been impressive. But I wish there had been more key singles and doubles. Later[/quote:34nttre8] Wha'ts Omar's OBP-correlate in this analogy? Farmer Ted Jul 21 2009 04:34 PM They're safe until 2 am on a west coast road trip. Edgy DC Jul 21 2009 06:00 PM I have to say that I'm not sure what people are looking for from Omar Minaya. People seem want action --- and maybe more immediate relief and not over-prizing prospects. But by remaining deliberate in the face of the current crisis, he's working against the interests of his own job security and in favor of the longer-term interests of the club. Which doesn't make me a big fan of the guy. But anybody who doesn't like a GM should probably want him to be conservative. Ashie62 Jul 23 2009 02:04 AM ="Edgy DC"]I have to say that I'm not sure what people are looking for from Omar Minaya. People seem want action --- and maybe more immediate relief and not over-prizing prospects. But by remaining deliberate in the face of the current crisis, he's working against the interests of his own job security and in favor of the longer-term interests of the club. Which doesn't make me a big fan of the guy. But anybody who doesn't like a GM should probably want him to be conservative. I respect your opinion but being conservative now borders on being ineffectual. The horse is out of the barn for this year. I would be sorely dissapointed to see the current GM and Manager back in 2008 Is Omar working in the interests of the long term at the expense of himself..Could be.. time will tell...Personally, I believe he is inept, ya know what I mean? Nymr83 Jul 23 2009 05:14 AM ]I have to say that I'm not sure what people are looking for from Omar Minaya. People seem want action --- and maybe more immediate relief and not over-prizing prospects. But by remaining deliberate in the face of the current crisis, he's working against the interests of his own job security and in favor of the longer-term interests of the club. A month ago this team needed help desperately (I'd say this team went from 'in trouble' to 'desperate' when Beltran went down), at that time I wanted Minaya to find help. Right now I think its gone too far and the season (as far as contending goes) is over. I no longer want him to trade anything of future value away to try and win this year. I'd be happy if he got something of future use for Sheffield/Schneider/etc. But at this point inaction is just fine. Edgy DC Jul 23 2009 05:56 AM ="Ashie62"] ="Edgy DC"]I have to say that I'm not sure what people are looking for from Omar Minaya. People seem want action --- and maybe more immediate relief and not over-prizing prospects. But by remaining deliberate in the face of the current crisis, he's working against the interests of his own job security and in favor of the longer-term interests of the club. Which doesn't make me a big fan of the guy. But anybody who doesn't like a GM should probably want him to be conservative. I respect your opinion but being conservative now borders on being ineffectual. The horse is out of the barn for this year. I would be sorely dissapointed to see the current GM and Manager back in 2008 Is Omar working in the interests of the long term at the expense of himself..Could be.. time will tell...Personally, I believe he is inept, ya know what I mean? Yeah, I'm not arguing that he's good or that I want to keep him. I'm just saying I'm glad he's not going nuts to save himself by desperately trying to save the season. Ceetar Jul 23 2009 09:13 AM ="Edgy DC"] ="Ashie62"] ="Edgy DC"]I have to say that I'm not sure what people are looking for from Omar Minaya. People seem want action --- and maybe more immediate relief and not over-prizing prospects. But by remaining deliberate in the face of the current crisis, he's working against the interests of his own job security and in favor of the longer-term interests of the club. Which doesn't make me a big fan of the guy. But anybody who doesn't like a GM should probably want him to be conservative. I respect your opinion but being conservative now borders on being ineffectual. The horse is out of the barn for this year. I would be sorely dissapointed to see the current GM and Manager back in 2008 Is Omar working in the interests of the long term at the expense of himself..Could be.. time will tell...Personally, I believe he is inept, ya know what I mean? Yeah, I'm not arguing that he's good or that I want to keep him. I'm just saying I'm glad he's not going nuts to save himself by desperately trying to save the season. Personally I think he's a decent GM, and I wonder how much outside influence (inside influence?) he gets for certain deals. But I agree, a lot of what Minaya's criticized for, at least by some, is that he traded away some big prospects in Montreal. If anything, he's been a lot more conservative in that regard here. Mex17 Jul 25 2009 07:17 AM If Omar does go, here are two names to stick in your noggin. . . Ben Cherington Jed Hoyer Currently they share the same job title: Senior Vice President/Assistant General Manager of the Boston Red Sox. Frayed Knot Jul 25 2009 07:27 AM Yeah, I particularly like the time Cherinigton did .... ummm, and I've liked Hoyer ever since he was responsible for ... er, something or other. Mex17 Jul 25 2009 08:12 AM ="Frayed Knot":2r1i8ivn]Yeah, I particularly like the time Cherinigton did .... ummm, and I've liked Hoyer ever since he was responsible for ... er, something or other.[/quote:2r1i8ivn] No man (in this case, Epstein) is an island. And I would have to say that the Red Sox are among the better organizations in baseball (if not the class of MLB right now). Frayed Knot Jul 25 2009 10:18 AM Nothing wrong with looking towards currently successful organizations for future talent - whether on field or front office - so if you've know something about either of these guys then please share. But if all we're doing is picking names off a media guide and deciding that their place in it solves our current problems then this is not only grass-is-greener hoping but also a waste of time. Mex17 Jul 25 2009 04:58 PM Here ya go. . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Cherington http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jed_Hoyer http://mlb.mlb.com/content/printer_frie ... 281022.jsp Mex17 Jul 26 2009 06:51 AM http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... tml?page=0