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Let the Speculation Begin
| Farmer Ted Aug 25 2009 04:22 PM |
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Free agents-to-be, according to another website.
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| Ashie62 Aug 25 2009 04:43 PM |
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If the 30 million dollars coming off payroll is not going to be used on salaries would this mean payroll would be around 100 million? Making this list much smaller
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| Kong76 Aug 25 2009 05:04 PM |
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Are yougonna hang your hat on knowing what the final payroll figure
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| Ashie62 Aug 25 2009 05:47 PM |
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I am going on a Rubin piece a few days ago that suggested the 30 Million coming off payroll may not be reinvested in salary.
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| smg58 Aug 25 2009 06:04 PM |
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The good news is that the corner outfield options are very good. Sure I'd love Holliday, but a good relative bargain is possible in that bunch as well.
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| Kong76 Aug 25 2009 06:24 PM |
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A62: I am going on a Rubin piece a few days ago that suggested the 30 Million coming off payroll may not be reinvested in salary <<<
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| bmfc1 Aug 25 2009 06:56 PM |
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Bengie Molina would be a good 2 year pickup at catcher. Nothing more than 2 because he's 35. He could tutor Thole. And it's about time that the Mets had a Molina on their side.
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| Benjamin Grimm Aug 25 2009 07:03 PM |
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Rubin hinted that not ALL of it would be reinvested. He didn't imply that NONE of it would be.
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| Kong76 Aug 25 2009 07:09 PM |
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So I shouldn't look at that list and factor in The Rubin Cap? I'm confused.
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| Edgy DC Aug 25 2009 07:09 PM |
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Yeah, well, people are running with what they will.
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| Kong76 Aug 25 2009 07:20 PM |
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I also kinda doubt the Mets will show a big loss for the year. Ticket sales were
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| Fman99 Aug 25 2009 07:20 PM |
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Predicting now that the Madoff-Mets will go chizzeap for 2010. Not a single big name free agent will be signed, to play LF, 1B, or pitch. The roster will look something like this:
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| Kong76 Aug 25 2009 07:32 PM |
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Well, we'll see if The Rubin Cap © can hold any water.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 25 2009 11:51 PM |
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I feel like I do whenever anyone talks about the Oscars-- are we talking about our best guesses at what will happen, or what should happen?
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| dgwphotography Aug 26 2009 05:18 AM |
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The only one on that list I would want is Bay. Perhaps this is a good year to tighten the purse strings, because no one else on that list is worth overpaying for, which is what will eventually happen...
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| metirish Aug 26 2009 06:34 AM |
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Two reports on the Mets the last few days have described the Mets as " the cash strapped Mets"......I do start to wonder how bad or not the club finances are.
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| smg58 Aug 26 2009 06:48 AM |
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They stretched the budget a bit the last two years and don't have much to show for it. At this point, though, it looks like their unwillingness to be buyers at the deadline had more to do with realism and less with money (i.e., they had to know that nobody on the DL was coming back quickly enough to justify taking on an expense). The combination of the economy and a struggling team probably left them with more empty seats in the new stadium than anticipated, but things are less bad on the economic front, and they know the fans will support a winning team if they put one on the field. Maybe they'd like something closer to $130M than $140M, but I see no reason for them to do anything drastic, or to believe that they will.
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| MFS62 Aug 26 2009 08:26 AM |
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[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":33g9idjg], perhaps re-up Schneider [/quote:33g9idjg]
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| seawolf17 Aug 26 2009 08:38 AM Re: Let the Speculation Begin |
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Eff that, I'm tired of the cheap shit. Throw more money at it, Wilpons. Get me Victor Martinez for four years to play first, Miguel Olivo to catch, Carl Crawford in left (or, failing that, Bay), and Jermaine Dye in right. Then get Ryan "Super Joe" Freel to join Murphy, Reed, Santos, and Fernando Martinez on the bench.
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| Farmer Ted Aug 26 2009 08:52 AM |
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Torreabla will never be a Met. Not after Omar pulled his offer to work a deal for [cough] Schneider.
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| Edgy DC Aug 26 2009 09:00 AM |
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Did anybody ever get to the bottom of that?
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| PiggiesTomatoes Aug 26 2009 09:14 AM Re: Let the Speculation Begin |
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[quote="seawolf17":3a3iemew]Eff that, I'm tired of the cheap shit. Throw more money at it, Wilpons. Get me Victor Martinez for four years to play first, Miguel Olivo to catch, Carl Crawford in left (or, failing that, Bay), and Jermaine Dye in right. Then get Ryan "Super Joe" Freel to join Murphy, Reed, Santos, and Fernando Martinez on the bench.
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| smg58 Aug 26 2009 09:29 AM |
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[quote="MFS62":tlgw4vlh]I'd rather give birth to a flaming porcupine.[/quote:tlgw4vlh]
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| Ashie62 Aug 26 2009 10:18 AM |
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Fman's scenario could be close..There's not that much talent out there among FA's
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| smg58 Aug 26 2009 11:05 AM |
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I can't see the Rays declining Crawford's option. If nothing else he's still very dealable at that price.
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| Vic Sage Aug 26 2009 12:01 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 26 2009 12:23 PM |
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That FA list sux.
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| bmfc1 Aug 26 2009 12:11 PM |
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I never want to see Anderson Hernandez again. He has no range, as evidenced by his misplay on the GW hit last night, can barely hit, and doesn't have a head for the game. I wonder if the Mets value Cora's leadership skills so highly that they'll bring him back.
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| metirish Aug 26 2009 12:14 PM |
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I find few things more overrated than " leadership skills" , no more Cora please.
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| Vic Sage Aug 26 2009 12:17 PM |
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i would suggest that, with the holes this team has, "utility infielder" should not be high on the list of concerns. That being said, i have no love for either Hernandez OR Cora, and would be grateful for any upgrade there. How about Jonny Lunchbucket's fave, Jerry Hairston?
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| seawolf17 Aug 26 2009 01:26 PM |
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Dammit, man. Ryan Freel.
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| metirish Aug 26 2009 01:29 PM |
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[quote="Vic Sage":1xovv4or]i would suggest that, with the holes this team has, "utility infielder" should not be high on the list of concerns. That being said, i have no love for either Hernandez OR Cora, and would be grateful for any upgrade there. How about Jonny Lunchbucket's fave, Jerry Hairston?[/quote:1xovv4or]
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 26 2009 02:09 PM |
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[quote="Vic Sage":2ah9bsj3]That FA list sux.
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| smg58 Aug 26 2009 02:27 PM |
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Odd tidbit about Anderson Hernandez: He has a .784 career OPS batting righthanded and a .532 OPS batting left. Why does he bother switch-hitting?
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| Vic Sage Aug 26 2009 02:44 PM |
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Wolfie,
forget it. its not happening.
Holliday is so much better than anything they have now in LF, or could get, that its pretty much a no-brainer. but i'm just not convinced he'll be worth, in absolute terms, what he gets. I think i might rather put the money in a SP like Lackey, and take a cheaper option in LF, like Bay or Dye, until F-Mart is ready (if ever). But i could be convinced otherwise pretty easily. I certainly wouldn't be UNhappy if they got Holliday.
We need some stability behind Santana. Bedard doesn't give you that. If you wanted to take a flyer on him AFTER signing Lackey, go right ahead.
If i thought Pineiro was a reliable option, i'd support that. But it just seems to me that, outside of Dave Duncan's magical influence, he could be another big ??
2 issues of definition: define "credible"... to me, it just seems like we have mediocre or unproven options at 1b, not "credible" ones. And define "semi-reasonable" price for Holliday... if he's enough to keep them from pursuing a top SPer, he's too much. If Bay or Dye could be had more cheaply, allowing room for a Lackey, rather than a Piniero, I'd rather go that way.
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| Vic Sage Aug 26 2009 02:54 PM |
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Basically, i guess what i'm saying is that, for the Mets to have a good shot next year, they need to take that $30m in payroll coming off the books and reinvest it in 2 players: Holliday and Lackey. That's about what those 2 are going to get combined next year, though Fred might need to kick in a little more to close the deal.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 26 2009 03:51 PM |
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[quote="Vic Sage"]Basically, i guess what i'm saying is that, for the Mets to have a good shot next year, they need to take that $30m in payroll coming off the books and reinvest it in 2 players: Holliday and Lackey. That's about what those 2 are going to get combined next year, though Fred might need to kick in a little more to close the deal. |
| TransMonk Aug 28 2009 07:59 AM |
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Is it too early to start speculating about Bobby V. coming back as well?
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| Benjamin Grimm Aug 28 2009 08:07 AM |
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I'm pretty sure that, despite what we may want, the next Mets manager, whenever it happens, will be somebody other than Bobby Valentine.
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| Nymr83 Aug 28 2009 11:07 AM |
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I don't want Bedard/Piniero and agree that Lackey is the guy to pursue, but I'd be happy with Bay in the outfield.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 28 2009 12:00 PM |
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[quote="Nymr83"]
I don't want Bedard/Piniero and agree that Lackey is the guy to pursue, but I'd be happy with Bay in the outfield. |
| metirish Aug 28 2009 02:06 PM |
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I'm going to specualte on possible new owners.....
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| Nymr83 Aug 28 2009 02:09 PM |
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you'll need to win the mega million another 2 times to hav enough money, and likely 2 or 3 times after that when they're done taxing your winnings.
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| Benjamin Grimm Aug 28 2009 02:10 PM |
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| metirish Aug 28 2009 02:14 PM |
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[quote="Nymr83":3blz93lh]you'll need to win the mega million another 2 times to hav enough money, and likely 2 or 3 times after that when they're done taxing your winnings.
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| Kong76 Aug 28 2009 02:18 PM |
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ny83: if dolan buys the mets <<<
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| Fman99 Aug 28 2009 03:35 PM |
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[quote="Benjamin Grimm":2wiw21tm]
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 01 2009 12:24 AM |
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Hmm. Hmmmmm.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 01 2009 04:40 AM |
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Yeah, what we need is a guy sensitive to what that vicious St. Louis media corp says.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 01 2009 07:48 AM |
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[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":ljybazvt]Yeah, what we need is a guy sensitive to what that vicious St. Louis media corp says.
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