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Frayed Knot
Sep 04 2009 07:17 AM

No real big point here (mainly I just wanted to experiment with making a table) but the stuff below shows the so-far career of Anderson Hernandez split into his first stint here as a roster-filling auto-out and the time since he was dealt away and re-acquired.
Nothing stunning certainly, but it does show a metamorphous from 'putrid' to 'acceptable for a backup's role' and his 72 ABs as a Met this season are actually slightly better than his combined lower line of DC & NYM put together.



AndyHandyPAABH2B3BHRBBKBAOBASLG
2005-2007898712111217.138.157.207
2008-200942638410517313862.273.336.341



I suppose there's still a question about whether he can really handle SS since you always need one of those, plus we keep hearing about how much they love Cora and all.
But he's out-hit Cora and will turn 27 this winter as opposed to 34 (I would have guessed Cora was older than that).

Edgy DC
Sep 04 2009 07:23 AM
Re: Andy Handy

I'm hoping it's not about him v. Cora.

I suppose it's nice to have one backup infielder who hits better and one who fields better, but it doesn't always work out as planned.

metirish
Sep 04 2009 07:29 AM
Re: Andy Handy

Perfect for the bench type , I'd have no problem with him back in that role.

Frayed Knot
Sep 04 2009 07:31 AM
Re: Andy Handy

Well I didn't necessarily mean to limit the discussion to just him or Cora.
But the point is that everyone [u:3l74deip]Needs[/u:3l74deip] a backup who can play SS - for a sustained stretch if necessary - and those types are never going to hit much so scouring the wires and trade markets for someone to fill that role is unlikely to turn up someone a whole lot better. The only difference would be if they decide that the spot should go to a glove-first man in which case you probably don't want either guy.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 04 2009 09:44 AM
Re: Andy Handy

While AH has usually struggled batting from the left side of the plate, he's developed into a respectably efficient batter from the right side, especially by the standards of a backup infielder.

Last year, he batted .366 from the right side, albeit in a small number of AB's (41). Here are his up-to-date career BA/OBP/SLG splits:

batting lefty:.232/.288/.282 (340 AB's)
batting righty: .290/.354/.405 (131 AB's)

bmfc1
Sep 04 2009 09:52 AM
Re: Andy Handy

He also has minimal range and makes "bad baseball decisions" (i.e. is a knucklehead).

metirish
Sep 04 2009 10:03 AM
Re: Andy Handy

[quote="bmfc1":2motfl6o]He also has minimal range and makes "bad baseball decisions" (i.e. is a knucklehead).[/quote:2motfl6o]

"bad baseball decisions" seems to have been a theme for this squad all season.

bmfc1
Sep 04 2009 10:12 AM
Re: Andy Handy

I almost wrote "Pagan-like" but thought that would lead to a different level of jokes.

smg58
Sep 04 2009 10:59 AM
Re: Andy Handy

He could be a platoon second baseman on a decent club. As shortstop he doesn't cut it defensively, certainly not to the degree that you'd hope for from a guy with a dubious bat. The same could be said for Cora, so they should really think about bringing somebody else in for the reserve shortstop role.

Frayed Knot
Sep 04 2009 11:57 AM
Re: Andy Handy

See, if it's deemed that he can't hack it at SS then he becomes a whole lot less valuable and I become a whole lot less interested. I don't know that I've seen enough of him out there to know yet.
If you need a platoon at 2nd you can get a much better bat - unless you already have a thumper at 2nd in which case he becomes the occasional gloveman/fill-in, but our current 2B man is too Andy-like to begin with.

Ahhh, doesn't matter. This is an off-season discussion anyway and not a real high priority one at that.
But at least he's showing himself to be a better player these days then the one we sent away two years back and doesn't automatically get written out of the conversations.

MFS62
Sep 04 2009 12:01 PM
Re: Andy Handy

He still appears to have problems getting a jump on ground balls to his left.
His hands and arm look ok for short, but still, its that range thingie.

OK backup I guess.
Later

Edgy DC
Sep 04 2009 12:33 PM
Re: Andy Handy

He's interesting to track for trading.

They got him from the Tiggs for Vance Wilson. The Tigers got 0.7 WARs out of ol' Vance for $1.6 million.

The Mets would pay relatively squat and, um, get absolutley squat from him --- -0.8 WARs for about $600,000 including majors and minors salaries.

But they sent him yonder for Luis Ayala. The Mets get 0.1 WARs there for about a half mill.

So we lost the Wilson/Hernandez trade, clearly, thoguh Vance wasn't all that much.

Now, the Ayala/Hernandez trade. Anderson gets into the black as a Nat, and comes up with about 0.6 win shares for about $1.2 million. Um, shit, we clearlly lose there also.

So, if Greg Veloz somehow outplays or outvalues Anderson Hernandez, we could be a three-time loser with this guy. So far, fortunately the Mets lead that one with 0.2 WARs at a few hunnert Gs.