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If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball
Valadius Sep 09 2009 10:00 AM |
If you had the ability to reorganize Major League Baseball, and move teams wherever you felt they should go, what would you do? Would you reorganize the divisions? Would you move teams clear across the country? Would you expand or contract? Alternatively, if you could reorganize the minor leagues, how would you do it?
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metirish Sep 09 2009 10:08 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I would have a salary cap for teams , at the minimum and maximum level . I don't care for IL play but do like the Mets versus yankees but still I would do away with IL play. The "traditional rival" is fine for soem teams but there is not enough to go around the rest of the leagues.
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Edgy DC Sep 09 2009 10:25 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
Salary cap wouldn't get past any union worth a scrap, would hurt the sport, and would hurt America.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 09 2009 10:36 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I would LOVE to see some sort of European-football-style relegation system. I couldn't begin to tell you how to get there from here.
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TransMonk Sep 09 2009 10:50 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
Not that any of this could ever happen due to labor disputes, revenue and fan revolt...but if I could magically arrange things the way I wanted to, it would go like this:
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Valadius Sep 09 2009 11:28 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I'd start with team location:
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 09 2009 11:36 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I'm surprised to learn that Valadius doesn't already have the power to reorganize baseball.
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Edgy DC Sep 09 2009 11:41 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
First order of business: sever the affiliation relationships between minor league teams and major league ones. All teams are independent and self-sustaining or not at all.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 09 2009 11:48 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I like Edgy's suggestions, but the unfortunate side effect of that would be that teams and their locations would become as fluid as they've become in the NFL.
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Edgy DC Sep 09 2009 11:56 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
Only initially. After the large markets are flooded, a natural equilibrium would be established (rather than the false one we have now) and stability would ensue.
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Nymr83 Sep 09 2009 12:09 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
Baseball is good as is, and as such any changes i'd make would be minor.
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TheOldMole Sep 09 2009 12:44 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I'd move the Mets AA team from Binghamton to Albany.
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G-Fafif Sep 09 2009 04:15 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I'd realign the Mets into first place and let the rest take care of itself.
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MFS62 Sep 09 2009 05:00 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I like parts of both TransMonk's and Val's ideas on realignment.
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Edgy DC Sep 09 2009 05:14 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I don't particularly care if the most populous areas have teams. Available population doesn't necessarily make a team viable.
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Frayed Knot Sep 09 2009 05:27 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
[quote="MFS62":3885wlxe]Now I'll remove my tongue from my cheek and point out that San Antonio is now in the top 10 largest metropolitan areas in the country. They should be considered in any franchise move.[/quote:3885wlxe]
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MFS62 Sep 09 2009 05:33 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
Good point. But they have supported the Spurs very well, and IIRC the Missions of the Texas League well, too. Of course, minor league success doesn't guarantee major league success, as the folks in Montreal can tell you. And I'm not saying I'd buy a team and move it there before some heavy duty market research. But it is to be considered.
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Edgy DC Sep 09 2009 09:18 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
The Expos were a success story up until 1994.
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vtmet Sep 09 2009 09:37 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I'm not overly thrilled with the unbalanced schedule that has been used in recent years (playing teams in your division alot, the rest not much...and the interleague matchups don't seem overly fair for some teams: for example Mets play Yanks 6 times, Phils play the B'Jays 6 times each year)...and I think that instead of just being an interleague matchup, some similar teams should be facing each other much more often (for example, should the Marlins and the Rays be rivals? The Royals vs the Cards?)...and some NL teams just seem to fit the AL mold better and some AL teams seem to fit the NL mold better...
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Ashie62 Sep 10 2009 06:33 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
Eliminate the AAA system
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metirish Sep 10 2009 06:41 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
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I've been hearing this in various places for years, why him?
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 10 2009 06:44 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I assume because he's smart, he loves the game and he appreciates its history.
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dgwphotography Sep 10 2009 07:24 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
1. eliminate inter league play
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duan Sep 10 2009 07:38 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
i said this ages ago about Promotion & Relegation.
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duan Sep 10 2009 07:44 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
and another thing while I'm at it.
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Edgy DC Sep 10 2009 07:55 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
[quote="dgwphotography"]3. institute a world-wide draft - I'm tired of this free-agency free for all where the best foreign players only go to a handful of teams. |
metsmarathon Sep 10 2009 08:48 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
if we were to institute a relegation/promotion type system, would that not necessitate the abolishment of the minor league system as we know it today?
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metirish Sep 10 2009 08:53 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
You can still do the relegation/promotion type system and have player development. The soccer model has the first team , the reserve team(AAA) and various age group teams like under 18's(AA?) , under 16's right down to nine year olds. All these various teams compete in leagues and cups.
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Edgy DC Sep 10 2009 09:06 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
[quote="metsmarathon"]if we were to institute a relegation/promotion type system, would that not necessitate the abolishment of the minor league system as we know it today? |
i mean, its an interesting change, but its perhaps too world-changing for it to ever happen in the real world, i think. but considering the limitless power we've imagined for ourselves, i implore you to further flesh out this fantasy. |
you've abolished the draft and the dh, and scuttled each team's farm system. say a hot young third baseman finishes up high school next year, and decides to try his hand in professional baseball instead of going off to college. how does this new system work for him? |
Valadius Sep 10 2009 10:27 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I don't think that the institution of a promotion/relegation system necessitates an abandonment of the farm system. On the contrary, I think it would create more farm teams in places that haven't had them before, in rapidly-growing parts of the country.
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Edgy DC Sep 10 2009 10:33 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
I think moral sense necessitates the abandonment of an abandonment of the farm system. Why should the Mets decide who plays for the only professional baseball team in the great city of Buffalo? And Heaven forfend a player plays too well, because then the Mets arbitrarily take him away whenever they want.
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metsmarathon Sep 10 2009 11:47 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
if we're renting out out promising young players to these lesser teams, how do we concern ourselves with organizational philosophies such as emphasizing either patience at the plate, or the opposite. also, how does a team ensure that its young stud pitcher isn't overused?
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metsguyinmichigan Sep 10 2009 11:53 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
[quote="Benjamin Grimm"]I assume because he's smart, he loves the game and he appreciates its history. |
Edgy DC Sep 10 2009 11:59 AM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
[quote="metsmarathon"]if we're renting out out promising young players to these lesser teams, how do we concern ourselves with organizational philosophies such as emphasizing either patience at the plate, or the opposite. also, how does a team ensure that its young stud pitcher isn't overused? |
i assume we're retaining the 25 man active roster, and i guess we'd keep the 40 man roster, so each ML team would have 15 players that could be rented out. |
its kindof a cool idea, i think. the best part is that it would open up a ton of general manager positions, as now every minor league team would suddenly need one. surely one of us could land a gig somewhere! |
metirish Sep 10 2009 12:04 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
[quote="metsmarathon":1ydxlndl]if we're renting out out promising young players to these lesser teams, how do we concern ourselves with organizational philosophies such as emphasizing either patience at the plate, or the opposite. also, how does a team ensure that its young stud pitcher isn't overused?
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metsguyinmichigan Sep 10 2009 12:30 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
-- I would ban the DH, but add two roster spots to each team so they can carry two sluggers who can't field, as long as Jason Giambi isn't one of them.
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metirish Sep 10 2009 12:32 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
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love , love , love this clause
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Edgy DC Sep 10 2009 12:41 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
[quote="metsguyinmichigan":96u6cfh1]-- If a player earns 95 percent in his first time on the Hall of Fame ballot, the people in the five percent who didn't vote for that player shall be stripped of their ballot. I call this the Seaver-Mays-Aaron rule. Writers who didn't vote for these players are too stupid to be taken seriously and clearly don't deserve a vote.
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HahnSolo Sep 10 2009 12:55 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
[quote="metsguyinmichigan":3tdqgmlo]-
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metsmarathon Sep 10 2009 12:57 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
i'm sold. consider me on board the relegation/promotion system. i think it'd be shitloads of fun. and its also make much more sense than teams realigning their minor league affiliations every so often.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 10 2009 01:05 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 10 2009 01:06 PM |
[quote="HahnSolo":26jbl8vk][quote="metsguyinmichigan":26jbl8vk]-
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 10 2009 01:05 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
[quote="MGIM":jqbkbdvp] Fox shall be prohibited from pretending the cast members from their new shows just happened to be sitting together in the front row during World Series games[/quote:jqbkbdvp]
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MFS62 Sep 10 2009 01:09 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
But if you tried to drink beer out of the World Series trophy, you'd probably poke your eye out.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 10 2009 01:14 PM Re: If You Had The Power to Reorganize Baseball |
[quote="MFS62":3dg6mlds]But if you tried to drink beer out of the World Series trophy, you'd probably poke your eye out.
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