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Jeter's Behavior

G-Fafif Sep 12 2009 04:59 AM

Grabbing that microphone and telling the whole stadium, "Now I'm The Captain and Lou Gehrig has been irrevocably reduced to Tennille"...really, I thought it was uncalled for.

Kong76 Sep 12 2009 08:39 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

I dunno, I just have trouble saying Gehrig, Mantle, Ruth, Jeter. SJRogers must be walking on clouds today! When I read this post earlier I thought of "Don't Go Breaking My Mark" -- which after caffeine was Elton and Kiki, not Cap't & Tennille.

metirish Sep 12 2009 08:53 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

I thought it showed no class in the post game press conference that Jeter revealed that he is forcing Bob Sheppard to record a new at bat introduction.. "Shortstop... Number 2... Derek... Jeter..., here comes the greatest yankee hitter ever ......Number 2 ....greatest yankee hitter ever ... Number 2"

Frayed Knot Sep 12 2009 09:00 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

It was kind of odd watching brief clips of the press conference he did yesterday (and also after the game where he tied it) because just seeing him do it emphasized how few of those he's done over the years. As visible as he's been on the field (and in commercials) he's almost invisible otherwise. To his credit he doesn't duck reporters during the obligated post-game time but he usually gets through it with the bare minimum required; he'll spout a handful of cliches and then get outta Dodge. On the radio he'll do the basic Spring Training interview and then rarely if ever be heard from again for the entire year. FAN talkies have said that attempts to get Jeter on the radio for a 10-minute chat in-season are usually met (via a MFY spokes-lackey) with a "Derek's preparing for the game" brush-off. It could be a Tuesday night in June against KC with the Yanx up by 7 in the division but Jeter is too immersed in his pre-game routine to come to the phone. And on the few occasions he will speak beyond the contractually obligated ones, there's a kind of practiced boring-ness to him: give them what they want without really saying anything of substance so they'll get trained not to expect much.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 12 2009 10:02 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

"...greatest Yankee hitter who didn't die prematurely, and needed an additional 500 at-bats to do it..."

Ashie62 Sep 12 2009 12:21 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

[quote="metsguyinmichigan":br9f232x]"...greatest Yankee hitter who didn't die prematurely, and needed an additional 500 at-bats to do it..."[/quote:br9f232x] Thats not fair Beyond that I'm treating the whole thing as a non-event

Edgy DC Sep 12 2009 12:36 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

Yeah, not fair to Gehrig. Anybody think Steinbrenner is in good enough shape to have read that statement he allegedly released, much less written it?

metsguyinmichigan Sep 12 2009 01:34 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

There's little chance Steinbrenner was even aware that statement was released. And really, the writers who print that shouldn't! Get a live quote from Hank or someone.

G-Fafif Sep 12 2009 02:56 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

This whole thing has awakened Steinbrenner's old self. He just released a statement demanding Jeter get rid of those sideburns.

Ashie62 Sep 12 2009 03:30 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

[quote="Edgy DC":2ky0n087]Yeah, not fair to Gehrig. Now that is silly.One man did it and one man didn't. Life is not always fair. Anybody think Steinbrenner is in good enough shape to have read that statement he allegedly released, much less written it?[/quote:2ky0n087]

Edgy DC Sep 12 2009 08:57 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

I think you have your statement in a box of text attributed to me. Anyhow, I don't think I need to be told that life's not always fair. I think an observation by me about something being unfair definitively demonstrates that I know that.

Ashie62 Sep 12 2009 09:22 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

Edgy, you are backing the idea that because Jeter had 500 extra AB'S the feat is tainted... What is the issue here?..God decided it was Gehrig's time. It's useless to speculate what he could have done. Are we expecting the press to report these events as we would like to hear them as Mets' fans? Maybe..but geez..give Jeter his due and forget the uniform

metirish Sep 12 2009 09:55 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

We can all learn from Jeter , what a humanitarian he is.

Edgy DC Sep 12 2009 10:22 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

[quote="Ashie62"]Edgy, you are backing the idea that because Jeter had 500 extra AB'S the feat is tainted...

No, and I didn't suggest that. If he got two billion hits, he got two billion hits.

[quote="Ashie62"]What is the issue here?..God decided it was Gehrig's time. It's useless to speculate what he could have done.

You introduced the idea of fairness, not me.

[quote="Ashie62"]Are we expecting the press to report these events as we would like to hear them as Mets' fans?

I don't expect anything. I nonetheless criticize them when they get the story wrong or distorted, which they often do when it comes to Derek Jeter.

Ashie62 Sep 13 2009 09:31 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

[quote="Edgy DC":cogl2uvi]Yeah, not fair to Gehrig. Anybody think Steinbrenner is in good enough shape to have read that statement he allegedly released, much less written it?[/quote:cogl2uvi] Wrong..you responded to the issue of fairness and have not supported it

Ashie62 Sep 13 2009 09:32 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

[quote="metirish":v9zjuqzt]We can all learn from Jeter , what a humanitarian he is.[/quote:v9zjuqzt] For baseball, there are a few Mets who can learn from him In Life...who knows

Edgy DC Sep 13 2009 10:12 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

[quote="Ashie62"][quote="Edgy DC"]Yeah, not fair to Gehrig. Anybody think Steinbrenner is in good enough shape to have read that statement he allegedly released, much less written it?

Wrong..you responded to the issue of fairness and have not supported it
Wrong about what?

I disagree with you that comparing Jeter to Gehrig without looking at the greater context of their a achievements is unfair to Jeter. I assert that if it would be unfair to anybody, it would be to Gehrig.

Ashie62 Sep 13 2009 12:37 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

I would agree that its' unfair to both

Edgy DC Sep 13 2009 01:05 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

Sure, especially considering that, if Jeter had played in Gehrig's time, he'd be banished from the Majors. Gehrig's still the better player six days a week and I disagree that Jeter will be the greatest or most accomplishest or such Yankee when he's finished..

Ashie62 Sep 13 2009 08:03 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

[quote="Edgy DC":11r1sbin]Sure, especially considering that, if Jeter had played in Gehrig's time, he'd be banished from the Majors. Gehrig's still the better player six days a week and I disagree that Jeter will be the greatest or most accomplishest or such Yankee when he's finished..[/quote:11r1sbin] Why would Jeter be banished in Gehrig's time?..That last two propositions are subjective, neither of us can be correct

Edgy DC Sep 13 2009 08:46 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

Derek's dad is African-American, which makes him not "white" enough to qualify for Major League Baseball in the long era in between Moses Fleetwood Walker and Jackie Robinson --- which includes the duration of Lou Gehrig's career.

Ashie62 Sep 13 2009 09:13 PM Re: Jeter's Behavior

Correct, I wasn't thinking of the color barrier..Personally it will be interesting to see how history stacks the efforts of Ruth, Mantle, JoeD, Berra, Jeter, Mantle etc.. Safe to say, Jeter will wear the greatest living Yankee tag for some time. Thanks for the heads up

The Second Spitter Sep 14 2009 04:16 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

[quote="Ashie62":3do8ve6b]Correct, I wasn't thinking of the color barrier..Personally it will be interesting to see how history stacks the efforts of Ruth, Mantle, JoeD, Berra, Jeter, Mantle etc.. Safe to say, Jeter will wear the greatest living Yankee tag for some time.[/quote:3do8ve6b] That speaks volumes about an organization where he's not even the best player for his position. One of Slappy's few admirable qualities is that he never tried to adopt the "True Yankee" personna and that surely deserves at least a small measure of respect.

Centerfield Sep 14 2009 08:01 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

Like I said, give Jeter his due for owning the hit record. The idea that this makes him better than Gehrig (or the other great Yankees) is garbage. That won't stop people from saying it though.

Frayed Knot Sep 14 2009 09:14 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

btw, he's only 26 stolen bases away from Rickey's all-time MFY record. Let the countdown begin!

SteveJRogers Sep 14 2009 09:38 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

[quote="Ashie62":etdb7qe1]Correct, I wasn't thinking of the color barrier..Personally it will be interesting to see how history stacks the efforts of Ruth, Mantle, JoeD, Berra, Jeter, Mantle etc.. Safe to say, Jeter will wear the greatest living Yankee tag for some time. Thanks for the heads up[/quote:etdb7qe1] Yogi? Whitey? Mariano? Hell, Reggie Jackson gets considered "one of us" by Yankee fans, and Don Mattingly gets elevated greatly despite his lack of credentials comparable to Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio and Mantle.

metirish Sep 14 2009 10:11 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

[quote="Frayed Knot":9b1unrfq]btw, he's only 26 stolen bases away from Rickey's all-time MFY record. Let the countdown begin![/quote:9b1unrfq] Hilarious

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 14 2009 11:01 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

[quote="Frayed Knot":371pq1e6]btw, he's only 26 stolen bases away from Rickey's all-time MFY record. Let the countdown begin![/quote:371pq1e6] Also, 255 strikeouts from the Mick's MFY record. Nobody shows up and strikes out like the Captain.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 14 2009 11:28 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

All this means is that he played for one team for a long time. I'm more impressed that he's got more hits than any other shortstop. But, here are some countdowns to look for: Jeter's also second on the all-time MFY list for strikeouts and times grounded into double plays. And he's the team's all-time leader in outs made, and it's not even close. Jeter's got 6,288 and the person in second, St. Bernie Williams, has 5,919. Guess I missed Verducci's fawning when Jeter missed that mark. Looking at the active leaders today, I was surprised that Pudge Rodriguez was so close to Jeter, with something like 2707, and Omar Vizquel was like four hits behind Pudge. Vizquel.s 42, so I don't see him getting to 3,000. Will be interesting to see if Rodriguez could hold on long enough. Seems like a stretch.

Edgy DC Sep 17 2009 10:22 AM Re: Jeter's Behavior

[quote=http://www.theonion.com/content/news/derek_jeter_honored_for_having]Jeter Honored