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Aroldis Chapman
attgig Sep 21 2009 01:58 PM |
So, this name hasn't come up yet, but he's hitting the news now, since he just gained citizenship to Andorra. He's 21. throws a 102 mph heater. and he's a lefty.
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metirish Sep 21 2009 02:08 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
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Never heard of him but his Wikipedia opens with a startling declaration
As noted elsewhere if it's on the web then it must be true.....
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metirish Sep 21 2009 02:15 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
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From SI
I think I would be mildly surprised if he got that kind of money the same article has a scout projecting Chapman as a middle reliever rather than a starter , article also notes that with a weak FA pool that will drive up the price.
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Frayed Knot Sep 21 2009 02:33 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
"Aroldis Chapman ... just gained citizenship to Andorra"
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Ashie62 Sep 21 2009 02:37 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Chapman will get HUGE money...Cuba's best and his is a young flamethrower.
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Centerfield Sep 21 2009 02:43 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Hmm, young lefty pitcher named Chapman? I think I've seen that kid before.
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themetfairy Sep 21 2009 04:18 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
It's not nearly enough ;)
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Ashie62 Sep 21 2009 04:24 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
[quote="themetfairy":2960728b]It's not nearly enough ;)[/quote:2960728b]
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themetfairy Sep 21 2009 04:33 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
He's a lefty. But he can replace Murph at 1st
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Frayed Knot Sep 22 2009 07:44 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
BA: Cuban defector Aroldis Chapman has been "granted provisional passive residency in the country of Andorra pending the finalization of the process," according to a statement from his agency.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 22 2009 10:30 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
[quote="Frayed Knot"]BA: Cuban defector Aroldis Chapman has been "granted provisional passive residency in the country of Andorra pending the finalization of the process," according to a statement from his agency. |
Ashie62 Sep 22 2009 10:52 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Aroldis Chapman is being guarded by Ugueth Urbina
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Farmer Ted Sep 22 2009 11:28 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Andorra?
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Frayed Knot Sep 22 2009 01:15 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
[quote="Farmer Ted":hk4ns6un]Andorra?[/quote:hk4ns6un]
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attgig Sep 23 2009 08:42 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
landlocked between france and spain. only rich people live there.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 23 2009 12:45 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
[quote="Frayed Knot":ia9v0yt0]
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seawolf17 Sep 23 2009 01:12 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
[quote="attgig":2srck7af]landlocked between france and spain. only rich people live there.[/quote:2srck7af]
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Frayed Knot Sep 28 2009 10:21 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Officially a free agent as of this past weekend.
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Ashie62 Sep 28 2009 10:46 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
look ma, no Mets!! Chapman is pictured in my avatar
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Frayed Knot Oct 24 2009 07:48 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Adam Rubin:
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 24 2009 08:24 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
[quote="Frayed Knot":19cvrh9t]
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MFS62 Oct 24 2009 08:31 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
[quote="Benjamin Grimm":1tuwijrq][quote="Frayed Knot":1tuwijrq]
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Edgy DC Dec 20 2009 08:18 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Florida opens the bidding at five years, $13.5 million, reportedly.
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Valadius Dec 20 2009 08:37 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Wow, what a joke.
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Frayed Knot Dec 20 2009 08:51 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Not sure I get the joke.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 20 2009 09:08 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Strasburg got 15.1 guaranteed over 4, and he's widely considered to be a more polished pitcher.
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Valadius Dec 20 2009 09:36 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
My guess is his agent is at least looking for Contreras money, which if I recall was something like $8 million a year.
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Frayed Knot Dec 21 2009 05:56 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
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'He' - meaning Chapman - is considered more polished? I'm not so sure about that. Young pitchers are notoriously tough to project. Cuban players are notoriously tough to project. Put the two of those together to get a young, Cuban pitcher and it's going to be hard for anyone to get a handle on this one. Strasburg & Chapman are about the same age and, while Chapman pitched (at least theoretically) in a more advanced environment, virtually no reliable eyes saw him do so. A handful of WBC innings and this side throwing session is about all peeps have to go on.
He can ask all he wants but it doesn't mean he's getting it. Contreras was a considerably older, more seasoned pitcher at the time of his defection and contract. Besides, it's not like that deal worked out all that well to the point where teams are going to be rushing to match it. I suspect he'll eventually get more than that Marlins offer but I don't think there'll be GMs lined up to blow it out of the water.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 21 2009 09:28 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
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[quote="Frayed Knot"]
'He' - meaning Chapman - is considered more polished? |
Ashie62 Dec 21 2009 10:28 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
[quote="MFS62":1u03xyqh][quote="Benjamin Grimm":1u03xyqh][quote="Frayed Knot":1u03xyqh]
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attgig Dec 21 2009 02:22 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
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[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="Frayed Knot"]
'He' - meaning Chapman - is considered more polished? |
LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 21 2009 03:15 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Oh, understood. Which is why he'll get more... I just don't think the Strasburg neighborhood is an unreasonable starting spot. The Marlins also offer proximity to Cuba, which I'm sure factored in somewhat to what they put forth-- and what they didn't-- in their bid.
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Benjamin Grimm Jan 07 2010 12:04 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Latest buzz is that the Mets, Yankees, and Astros are OUT of the picture for Aroldis Chapman, and that the Red Sox and Angels are still in the running.
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Edgy DC Jan 07 2010 12:07 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Did Peter Gammons say whether Siberia is still in the picture?
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Ashie62 Jan 07 2010 12:34 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Chapman now hits 190MPH on the gun and has developed 4 more pitches in the last week
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Valadius Jan 10 2010 12:04 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Chapman has signed with an unnamed NL team for $30 million.
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Swan Swan H Jan 10 2010 12:05 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
He will, apparently, name the team for an extra $10 million.
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Kong76 Jan 10 2010 02:43 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Signed and will be traded to Mets rumors?
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Edgy DC Jan 10 2010 02:50 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Reports --- seemingly emanating from Yahoo's Jeff F. Passan --- say it's the Reds.
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Frayed Knot Jan 11 2010 08:30 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Reds snag him with a 5 year deal plus an option for a sixth, the package said to be in the $25-$30 million (and almost certainly back-loaded) range.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 11 2010 08:54 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
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We oughta be there for that. I'd hate to give him up, but Niese is an Ohioan and ready to step into a rotation but might not figure with the Mets. I could see a Niese-Castillo for Harang-Phillips dealio.
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Frayed Knot Jan 11 2010 10:15 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
I suspect money could torpedo something like that as those guys are owed ridiculous amounts of money for not just this coming season but next year as well.
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Vic Sage Jan 11 2010 10:38 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
i'd do that deal in a heartbeat.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 11 2010 12:44 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
It's a trade you could make, and seems smart on its face-- OBP aside, Phillips provides positive-to-very-positive value in every other aspect of the game (plus-power for the position, plus-plus running and defense) and is smack in the middle of what should be his power prime.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 11 2010 01:18 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Hey if you guys need Cincy to kick in more $$ to make this happen I'm all for it.
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Vic Sage Jan 11 2010 01:21 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
The Mets competitive advantage is (or at least should be) their unmatched revenue streams (at least in the NL). The notion that this move won't be made because of $$ is infuriating.
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attgig Jan 11 2010 01:35 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
The Reds have already declined a harang deal with the dodgers that would've cleared their payroll (i think they got sherrill back). I can't see them accepting something with the mets where they take on castillo's contract.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 11 2010 03:23 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
It's hard for me to believe that Oakland and Toronto weren't offering comparable-- if not equivalent-- deals.
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TransMonk Jan 11 2010 03:34 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
God he's good.
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Edgy DC Jan 11 2010 05:11 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
[quote="Vic Sage":368hpn4v]The Mets competitive advantage is (or at least should be) their unmatched revenue streams (at least in the NL). The notion that this move won't be made because of $$ is infuriating.[/quote:368hpn4v]
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batmagadanleadoff Jan 11 2010 06:13 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
[quote="Vic Sage":1tumgmj7]The Mets competitive advantage is (or at least should be) their unmatched revenue streams (at least in the NL). The notion that this move won't be made because of $$ is infuriating.[/quote:1tumgmj7]
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Ashie62 Jan 11 2010 10:06 PM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Are the Mets going to sign an SP or..
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Edgy DC Jan 12 2010 07:01 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
I guess this is the pissed thread.
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Frayed Knot Jan 12 2010 07:28 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
[quote="batmagadanleadoff"][quote="Vic Sage"]The Mets competitive advantage is (or at least should be) their unmatched revenue streams (at least in the NL). The notion that this move won't be made because of $$ is infuriating. |
metsmarathon Jan 12 2010 10:00 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
i advocate the FK plan above. piniero can match or approximate what you'd get out of harang, at a much lower cost. he also won't cost you any players.
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batmagadanleadoff Jan 12 2010 10:10 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
[quote="metsmarathon":h7mr6f0d]i think that overpaying for harang and phillips qualifies as worse ROI than castillo. more upside, sure, but its more likely we'd see what those two have provided in their most recent seasons.[/quote:h7mr6f0d]
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Frayed Knot Jan 12 2010 10:53 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Not having the money to pull it off and not wanting to spend said money because it's deemed a dumb deal are two different things.
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Edgy DC Jan 12 2010 11:16 AM Re: Aroldis Chapman |
Like the Mets are going to say that.
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