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John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 23 2009 06:49 AM

Ramon Pena, chief of Latin American scouting Luis Aguayo, minor league field coordinator Snooze also related that Sandy Johnson, Minaya's top remaining lieutenant is considering retirement but that the Mets still want him. Aguayo as I recall it was a Bernazard guy -- he was brought in as a coach in last year's midseason coach-swap. Pena though was considered a top wheel but is apparently being whacked for falling short of his expectations. [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2009/09/23/2009-09-23_mets_fire_ramon_pena.html

metirish Sep 23 2009 06:57 AM Re: You're Fired

Fred Wilpon may have offered a vote of confidence to Omar Minaya, but the GM's inner circle quietly is being dismantled. Hardly bodes well for ones future

Edgy DC Sep 23 2009 07:50 AM Re: You're Fired

It's pretty common, though. When you want to crack down on a guy without firing him, you cut his legs out from under him. They did it to Valentine. Kind of did it to Randolph a little also. I see this, though, as about getting rid of Bernazard associates as much as it is about getting rid of Minaya associates.

MFS62 Sep 23 2009 07:52 AM Re: You're Fired

(Chanelling Michael Corleone), "Someone had to answer for Francisco Pena, Paulie". Now we know who that was. Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 28 2009 12:17 PM Re: You're Fired

AA manager Mako Oliveras GCL Mets skipper Julio Franco Mako was a Bernazard Guy, I wouldn't doubt Franco was too, though Omar sure loved him too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 28 2009 12:18 PM Re: You're Fired

PS, Jerry to meet with Omar Monday following the season to see how many of his coaches get fired. Snooze speculates all but Hojo are in trouble.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2009 12:39 PM Re: You're Fired

Jerry and Omar should pause during their meeting to thank whatever God they may believe in that they're the ones making the decisions, rather than the ones whose fates are being decided.

metirish Sep 28 2009 01:08 PM Re: You're Fired

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":18x140f6]AA manager Mako Oliveras GCL Mets skipper Julio Franco Mako was a Bernazard Guy, I wouldn't doubt Franco was too, though Omar sure loved him too.[/quote:18x140f6] I'd not be surprised if more minor league types get the shaft , like that's going to have an effect on the big league team....Minaya brought in most of these guys I assume , hanging on by a thread he is I think.

Ashie62 Sep 28 2009 05:13 PM Re: You're Fired

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":rxxie1ri]PS, Jerry to meet with Omar Monday following the season to see how many of his coaches get fired. Snooze speculates all but Hojo are in trouble.[/quote:rxxie1ri] Todays Star Ledger reports the same focusing on Warthen as a goner

HahnSolo Sep 29 2009 06:54 AM Re: You're Fired

Any reason why HoJo should not be in trouble?

MFS62 Sep 29 2009 06:57 AM Re: You're Fired

[quote="HahnSolo":1vtvqv9g]Any reason why HoJo should not be in trouble?[/quote:1vtvqv9g] Because you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Later

metirish Sep 29 2009 06:58 AM Re: You're Fired

[quote="HahnSolo":1q1iquxu]Any reason why HoJo should not be in trouble?[/quote:1q1iquxu] The only reason I can think of is Wright and Francouer have already said they are going to his house for coaching in the off-season , that's a vote of confidence right there...I'm joking but I suppose if asked Minaya might tell us that with all the injuries Hojo didn't have a lot to work with. Francouer seems to have worked well with him.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 29 2009 06:58 AM Re: You're Fired

If anything, I would assume it would be because of his role as Wright's mentor. It can certainly be argued that he didn't do a good job of it this year, but they may be thinking that firing HoJo could deepen David's funk. I'm not saying I buy this reasoning, but I'm just speculating as to what the team's thinking might be.

metirish Sep 29 2009 07:12 AM Re: You're Fired

I don't doubt what you are saying Grim but that's a terrible reason to keep him.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 29 2009 07:18 AM Re: You're Fired

I think the Mets tend to get in too deep with "their guys" in general, investing not only in extra contract years and no-trade clauses, but a ton of energy into creating an atmosphere that supports their guys; and a public identity around them. The Mets are David Wright; Wright is Howard Johnson; there's no Mets without Wright; there's no Wright without Johnson. Hojo also has more insulation than a guy like Warthen, since he's surrounded by former Met teammates in high profile official capacities like Darling and Hernandez. Their splits with other 86ers (Gooden, Mookie, Carter) were all pretty traumatic.

Edgy DC Sep 29 2009 07:35 AM Re: You're Fired

Even losing Ojeda as a minor league pitching instructor led to a shower of bad publicity. I wouldn't be shocked that the germ of Ojeda returning as an inexperienced talking head was planted in an attempt to make up for that. Old heroes are great to have around, but maybe best in p.r./community relations jobs. Doesn't mean they shouldn't coach, but if their coaching tenures aren't working out, I'd support pushing them toward's overpaid jobs in the p.r. stable, rather than hanging on to them and trying to redeem. I'm certainly not certain that Wright's poor year (in terms of homers and strikeouts) is a result of Johnson tinkering undoing what was working. And I can't fault him for not teaching a team full of bench players to hit homers. My main problem with him is walks and the players not aquiring them. Two out in the ninth and down by a run last night and Castillo is first-pitch swinging. Castillo?

G-Fafif Sep 30 2009 10:25 AM Re: You're Fired

Eric Wedge and coaches out in Cleveland, home of the criminally dis-serviced Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame. Cecil Cooper's been fired as Astros manager for like a week yet I only confirmed this fact yesterday.

metirish Sep 30 2009 10:28 AM Re: You're Fired

MOre from Lennon on this WASHINGTON - Omar Minaya is not the White House favorite he used to be during the George W. Bush years, but the general manager still enjoys the Mets' trips to the nation's capital even though the former Rangers owner has turned over the keys to Air Force One. For that reason, it's notable that Minaya skipped this week's visit to Nationals Park to stay back in New York for "housecleaning" purposes. With a huge offseason awaiting the Mets, and plenty of internal moves to be made, Minaya and his staff - along with the Wilpons - are well into that evaluation process. Last week, Minaya fired Ramon Peņa, a special assistant in charge of Latin America operations, as well as Luis Aguayo, the minor-league field coordinator in Port St. Lucie. But he didn't stop there. A person familiar with the situation confirmed Tuesday that the Mets have cut loose two minor-league managers - Double-A Binghamton's Mako Olivares and Julio Franco of the Gulf Coast League club. It also was revealed Tuesday that the Mets cut ties with Bill Masse, the batting coach at Triple-A Buffalo, who was promoted from Binghamton in June. Other than Peņa, a former trusted adviser to Minaya, these are not really franchise-shaking developments. But what they do signal is that the Wilpons have delivered a stern message to Minaya and manager Jerry Manuel that ownership will not tolerate another season like 2009 - and that goes for every level of the organization. A team official indicated that the Mets' decision-makers have been meeting regularly for the past six weeks in an effort to sort out what went wrong this season. The only thing they know is that the task is far from finished and more heads are likely to roll. There are more meetings scheduled for tomorrow's day off - also involving Manuel - as the conversation turns to his coaching staff. Manuel said last weekend that he planned to sit down with Minaya and perhaps the Wilpons on Monday, before leaving for his Sacramento home, to discuss the fate of his coaches. A person familiar with the team's plans suggested Tuesday that changes will indeed be coming, but did not specify who would be getting the ax. It also appears that Manuel's input will be relied on heavily in making those changes, but there will be pressure from the front office, as well. That puts Manuel in a tough spot and he didn't exactly rally to the coaches' defense when asked Sunday. The most likely candidate to be gone is third-base coach Razor Shines - a friend of Manuel and his personal addition to the staff for this season. Not only did Shines do a poor job of handling runners, even Manuel threw him under the bus for his failures with Daniel Murphy's development in leftfield. As for pitching coach Dan Warthen - probably next on the list - he was promoted from Triple-A on the same day that Manuel replaced Willie Randolph, so the manager doesn't quite have the same close attachment to Warthen as he would a longtime friend. The biggest criticism of Warthen this season has been the staggering number of walks allowed by the staff; its total of 607 is only 12 short of the franchise record. Even so, Warthen had to deal with losing four of his five starters from the Mets' Opening Day roster to serious injury and juggle a staff patched together with mostly minor-leaguers. "I just think it's difficult to evaluate based on what went wrong," Manuel said.

metirish Oct 03 2009 05:46 PM Re: You're Fired

JP Riccardi and Kevin Towers out as GM's, the scroll says Towers had been GM since 1995

Ashie62 Oct 03 2009 05:57 PM Re: You're Fired

One can only hope its' contagious

MFS62 Oct 04 2009 08:13 AM Re: You're Fired

Hey, here's a way to help two teams with needs. Howz about the Mets help San Diego fill that vacancy at GM by sending them Omar. In return, they could send the Mets their first baseman. And the Mets would pick up any remaining years on Towers' contract, too. Seems fair to me. Later

metsguyinmichigan Oct 05 2009 03:37 PM Re: You're Fired

When you work for the Marlins you know what you're getting involved with....but it seems to me that Freddi Gonzalez got screwed. Hmmm....new bench coach for the Mets?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 06 2009 04:42 PM Re: You're Fired

Hee. http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/10/5/1 ... t#comments

Frayed Knot Oct 06 2009 06:46 PM Re: You're Fired

[quote="metsguyinmichigan":2d8tj8rp]When you work for the Marlins you know what you're getting involved with....but it seems to me that Freddi Gonzalez got screwed. Hmmm....new bench coach for the Mets?[/quote:2d8tj8rp] Freddi Gonzalez re-upped by the Marlins, No screwing, no Bobby.

metirish Oct 29 2009 09:55 AM Re: You're Fired

Trouble in Dodger Town http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/spo ... 04099.html Frank fired his wife...ouch...