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Twins stealing signs?

attgig Oct 01 2009 12:21 PM

the youtube vid posted by a fan with his analysis of what's going on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhWYrmcSDAU the response. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4522901 DETROIT -- The Minnesota Twins reacted with a mix of anger and amusement to an Internet video that suggests catcher and MVP candidate Joe Mauer was stealing signs from second base in Tuesday's game against Justin Verlander and the Detroit Tigers. A 4½-minute amateur video, posted on YouTube and later shown on the Web site Deadspin, shows Mauer fiddling with his helmet and touching his face during a Jason Kubel at-bat in the sixth inning of Detroit's 6-5 victory over the Twins. The plate appearance culminated in a sacrifice fly by Kubel. A running commentary by the You Tube poster -- who goes by the nickname "rolemodel2008" and has since been identified as Tony Faust of Maple Grove, Minn. -- explains how Mauer is trying to steal signs from Detroit catcher Gerald Laird and relay them to Kubel from second base. The video circulated through the Minnesota clubhouse before Thursday afternoon's game at Comerica Park. Although Kubel characterized the video as "funny," Morneau took offense at the notion that Mauer was stealing signs. The Twins say that Mauer habitually fiddles with his helmet regardless of whether he's standing on first, second or third base. "I started laughing and said, 'This is a joke.' And then I said, 'Here we go,' " Morneau said. "It's pretty funny. There don't have to be facts behind anything anymore. You just throw stuff out there, and they want us to prove it wrong. "I've hit behind Joe for five years and I've never gotten a sign from him yet. I'm still waiting." Although it's common practice for baserunners to try to steal signs from second base to help a hitter be aware of the type of ensuing pitch or location, it's generally done subtly for fear of retribution. Twins manager Ron Gardenhire said Mauer's helmet-touching display was so obvious that it would have ensured one of his teammates being drilled by a fastball in response. "If you're stealing signs and you're using your hands on your helmet, I guarantee you, somebody would get killed," Gardenhire said. "That's not the way you steal signs." Mauer, preparing for Thursday's matinee, sent word through a media relations representative that he was unavailable to speak to reporters. Verlander declined comment to a Washington Post reporter. Gardenhire said sign-stealing has been a longstanding practice in baseball, that teams are always looking for an edge. The difference now is that You Tube posters and bloggers are paying attention to every scratch and twitch. "That's what the game is all about -- coaches and base coaches looking in and seeing if they can see the catcher's signs," Gardenhire said. "It's always there, and it's always been there. What's the old saying? If you're not cheating, you're not trying."

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 01 2009 12:26 PM Re: Twins stealing signs?

I approve of sign stealing. And I support the Twins for saying its bullsh*t even if its not.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 01 2009 01:17 PM Re: Twins stealing signs?

That vid was kinda silly. I'm not sure whether any sign stealing was going on, but nothing looked "blatant" to me, and I didn't see Kubel's "eyes dart" to Mauer, and Verlander didn't "looked pissed" over it from where I sit. That said, I agree w/ JCL 1000% percent.

The Second Spitter Oct 01 2009 11:49 PM Re: Twins stealing signs?

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3beb7yrg]I approve of sign stealing. And I support the Twins for saying its bullsh*t even if its not.[/quote:3beb7yrg] Me too - Bill B., Boston.